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I wrote a post earlier today in which I highlighted parts of Newt Gingrich's immigration ideas. In that post, I said most Americans understand why immigrants, legal and illegal, work so hard to get to America. I have to say, however, that any sympathy Americans may still have for the plight of illegal immigrants will be gone if the protest organizers achieve what they hope to on May 1. That's when a massive illegal immigration protest is scheduled to take place in a number of cities across America. Take a look at what the organizers hope to accomplish:
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Pro-immigration activists say a national boycott and marches planned for May 1 will flood U.S. streets with millions of Latinos to demand amnesty for illegal immigrants and shake the ground under Congress as it debates reform.
Such a massive turnout could make for the largest protests since the civil rights era of the 1960s, though not all Latinos -- nor their leaders -- were comfortable with such militancy, fearing a backlash in Middle America."There will be 2 to 3 million people hitting the streets in Los Angeles alone. We're going to close down Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Tucson, Phoenix, Fresno," said Jorge Rodriguez, a union official who helped organize earlier rallies credited with rattling Congress as it debates the issue.
They can go right ahead and try it. Not only will the American citizens who live in these cities be really ticked off, but the rest of America watching these cities being shut down by border-crossing, law-ignoring illegal immigrants will be disgusted as well.
And take a look at what the protesters are demanding:
"We want full amnesty, full legalization for anybody who is here (illegally)," Rodriguez said. "That is the message that is going to be played out across the country on May 1."
What arrogance. Not only did these illegal immigrants sneak across the border and acquire fake documents for the purpose of working here illegally, their children are educated here at taxpayer expense and they get free healthcare. Now they actually have the nerve to demand full amnesty as if they are victims of some kind of American oppression. On top of that, many of these people make their money under the table, so they don't pay taxes that go into the funding they require.
But, there seems to be some dissention in the ranks:
Hispanic leaders have been divided on how strong the nationwide May 1 event should be. Some shy away from the term "boycott" as being divisive and prefer a "National Day of Action" to describe the event. Others want supporters of the effort to stop shopping for the one day to dramatize their economic impact.
But there appears to be growing sentiment to back away from walking off the job or skipping school, which have brought appropriate sanctions in previous, smaller demonstrations......Local organizers are asking students not to leave school but to join the rally afterward. They also don't want workers to walk off their jobs unless they have permission to use leave or vacation time.
Does anyone think this will happen?
Update: The California State Senate has endorsed the immigrant boycott:
State senators on Thursday endorsed Monday's boycott of schools, jobs and stores by illegal immigrants and their allies as supporters equated the protest with great social movements in American history.
By a 24-13 vote that split along party lines, the Senate approved a resolution that calls the one-day protest the Great American Boycott 2006 and describes it as an attempt to educate Americans "about the tremendous contribution immigrants make on a daily basis to our society and economy.""It's one day ... for immigrants to tell the country peacefully, 'We matter ... (we're) not invisible,'" said Senate Majority Leader Gloria Romero, D-Los Angeles, the resolution's chief author. She said immigrants make up a third of California's labor force and a quarter of its residents.
Opponents said the nonbinding resolution was misleading because it failed to mention a goal of the boycott was pressuring Congress to legalize millions of undocumented people.
"It is a disingenuous effort to put the government of California on record supporting open borders," said Sen. Bill Morrow, R-Oceanside.
This protest is neither American nor great.
Expect Democratic groups to recruit at these protests.
Jason at Texas Rainmaker reports that the California Senate Democrats are planning a walk-out in solidarity with the illegal immigrant protest. Jason has the audio of a Republican state senator responding to this stunt.
Update II: César Cuauhtémoc García Hernández at AlterNet explains why he will join these protests.
Update III: Dan at Riehl World View reacts:
And it isn't going to be pretty. This isn't 1968. They aren't former slaves, they aren't even citizens. People are going to get pissed.
Update IV: Peter Brown has an article at Real Clear Politics about Monday's protest and boycott:
If the folks who want to allow illegal immigrants to become legal residents and eventually citizens are lucky, the planned May 1 general strike to pressure Congress in their direction will be a bust.
That's because even more than mass demonstrations, the work, school and shopping boycott is likely to backfire -- pushing public opinion toward stricter border security without making it possible for such immigrants to remain in the United States legally.Of course, some immigrant-rights activists understand the potential backlash, which is why there has been division within that community over the wisdom of the May 1 protest.
Update V: Michelle Malkin has obtained copies of the May 1 protest planning documents from the LA Unified School District. I recommend you go to her site and read them.
Update VI: The Mexican Congress supports the immigration protest. Of course it does. The Mexican government is thrilled poor Mexicans are coming to America because each poor Mexican who crosses the border into America is one fewer Mexican it has to support. But it is interesting that both the California Senate and the Mexican government are encouraging the protest.
Others blogging:
Iowa Voice
California Conservative
Previously:
Immigration Common Sense
Whose National Anthem Is It?
Democrats Kill Immigration Reform While Courting Immigrant Vote
Democrats Recruiting at Illegal Immigrant Protests
Massive Immigrant Protest Scheduled for Monday
Immigration Compromise Collapse: Bloggers React
The 1965 Immigration Act
Comments (65)
Your post smacks of racism,... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Lee | April 27, 2006 6:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Your post smacks of racism, Kim. You whine about illegals being paid under the table, but say nothing about the businesses and corpoations who increase their profits by doing just that.
Will this march/boycott/protest result in greater sympathy for their plight? No, probably not. I suspect it won't sway votes one way or the other...
What it will do is solidify the movement of hispanic voters away from the Republican party, and the way it will do is that by triggering posts such as yours which attack illegal aliens without addresing all sides of the problem. At least Newt recognized that WE are all at fault for perpetuating a system that fosters and encourages illegals to enter this country and work.
1. Posted by Lee | April 27, 2006 6:29 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 18:29
2. Posted by Sheik Yur Bouty | April 27, 2006 6:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Um, Lee, illegals are not a race......
The rest of your comment is so far off base it isn't worth addressing.
2. Posted by Sheik Yur Bouty | April 27, 2006 6:39 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 18:39
3. Posted by vaildog | April 27, 2006 6:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Go to hell Lee
3. Posted by vaildog | April 27, 2006 6:42 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 18:42
4. Posted by GregJ | April 27, 2006 6:45 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is very interesting. You should also see this site: www.saneworks.us.
4. Posted by GregJ | April 27, 2006 6:45 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 18:45
5. Posted by Borg Queen | April 27, 2006 7:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is nothing more than a home invasion on the most massive scale ever. And now that they're here, they're demanding to be treated as the homeowners. We wouldn't put up with this on an individual level, why are we allowing this to be forced on us?
5. Posted by Borg Queen | April 27, 2006 7:06 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 19:06
6. Posted by Lurking Observer | April 27, 2006 7:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lee:
Just to clarify things.
If I leave my door unlocked, and there's a nice plasma TV visible from the window, it's my fault that the TV got stolen?
Here's what's sad about the defense Lee is making. What of the legals? What of the people who take the time to fill out the forms, file the visas, etc.? You have to wonder: Why in the world would the law-abiding folks continue to abide by the law, if all it does is make them suckers?
6. Posted by Lurking Observer | April 27, 2006 7:13 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 19:13
7. Posted by John Kerry | April 27, 2006 7:23 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Because they have something LEE does not..Virtue & Integrity.."
7. Posted by John Kerry | April 27, 2006 7:23 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 19:23
8. Posted by Lee | April 27, 2006 7:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Whine away Ladies -- as I said - it's all good.
8. Posted by Lee | April 27, 2006 7:25 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 19:25
9. Posted by Peter F. | April 27, 2006 7:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I say go ahead and try protesting. Interrupt city operations, block freeway entrances, shut down buildings, etc. And be prepared to reap the backlash from it. Oh the halls of congress will shake, all right--just not in the way you hope, Mr. Rodriguez.
Legal immigration? Yes! Ilegal immigration? No. It couldn't be more simple and clear.
9. Posted by Peter F. | April 27, 2006 7:37 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 19:37
10. Posted by Rick | April 27, 2006 8:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think Lee has a great point. If people want to come into this country and be apart of this country they should do it legally. I can't just run into Mexico and say, "hey! I deserve to be a citizen of your country with full rights of a native born Mexican because I am here and this is how I feel". The Mexican government would let me know how they feel 'real fast'. Seems like there is a double standard here. If you want to join us in this country please do not take advantage of our kindness by bullying us with boycotts that harm our economy and calling us racists. This offends the average native born citizen of this country. Just respect our country by following the laws. Get it?
10. Posted by Rick | April 27, 2006 8:00 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 20:00
11. Posted by LissaKay | April 27, 2006 8:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Last year, Gov Bredesen (Tennessee) kicked a 300,000 people off of TennCare, the disastrous answer to Medicaid. My son, who has chronic and serious health issues, was one of them.
Best estimate is that there is somewhere around 300,000 illegals in Tennessee. And ya know what? They can get TennCare!
Ain't dat some shit?
At about the same time, Bredesen decided it would be a grand idea to give illegals driving certificates. So they could get insurance. Right. This disaster was nixed when it was found that illegals were pouring into Tennessee by the thousands to get these driving certificates. Several people made a few bucks helping them get here. I bet you didn't see that one coming ...
Oh, did I mention that Bredesen is a Democrat? Now there's a friggin shocker ...
11. Posted by LissaKay | April 27, 2006 8:05 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 20:05
12. Posted by frankfucszeroiq | April 27, 2006 8:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Whats next ?are they going to start burning cars?
12. Posted by frankfucszeroiq | April 27, 2006 8:06 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 20:06
13. Posted by Lee | April 27, 2006 8:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Republicans in Congress, desperate for re-election votes, will be kissing the protestor's arses, Peter F.
13. Posted by Lee | April 27, 2006 8:09 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 20:09
14. Posted by Rick | April 27, 2006 8:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I am sorry. Made a big mistake! Kim made the great point not Lee!!
14. Posted by Rick | April 27, 2006 8:15 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 20:15
15. Posted by Love the US! | April 27, 2006 8:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What is the cost of deporting all of the illegal immigrants worldwide I heard 500 million where do I send my check? If I refuse to pay my taxes I can either go to jail or pay a hefty fine, if I'm an illegal I don't get any punishment, if fact I might even get amnesty and continue not paying taxes; I'm breaking the law and getting awarded for it - this country is in a sorry state right now - and if you say anything against the illegals you're considered a bad person, well if they want amnesty here's a solution: have them enlist in our military and serve "their" country. Let's see how eager they are to be Americans when they're told they have to fight a war in another country like my husband fought in the Gulf War you want to be an American? then act like an American! Pay taxes, defend your country, wave the AMERICAN FLAG and sing the Star Spangled Banner in ENGLISH!!!!
15. Posted by Love the US! | April 27, 2006 8:55 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 20:55
16. Posted by Jamilah Hoffman | April 27, 2006 9:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Does anyone remember that the whole southwest was part of mexico in the first place? And that the treaty that was signed in that war was never intended to be upheld by the us. I think these protest/boycott are just scaring you reactionaries.
16. Posted by Jamilah Hoffman | April 27, 2006 9:00 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 21:00
17. Posted by Rick | April 27, 2006 9:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Gosh, you're so right. What'll you have me do now?
Roll over and play dead? Not!
17. Posted by Rick | April 27, 2006 9:10 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 21:10
18. Posted by docjim505 | April 27, 2006 9:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The illegals and their allies are really screwing themselves by organizing this kind of thing. I think that most Americans have a sort of "live and let live" attitude toward illegals: yeah, not too happy that they broke the law to come here, not real thrilled that our tax dollars are paying for their health care and childrens' education, but willing to sort of ignore the problem.
However, I think that most Americans also don't like being pushed around or having their noses rubbed in it.
If the illegals want to see a massive push for border enforcement AND repatriations, go ahead and try to shut down the cities. Wave the Mexican flag and demand "your" country back. Squawk about your "rights". Dig the hole a bit deeper.
Candidates around here (No. Carolina) are already running on anti-illegal platforms. This sort of thing will only provide grist for their mill.
18. Posted by docjim505 | April 27, 2006 9:18 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 21:18
19. Posted by John Kerry | April 27, 2006 9:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I agree with Love The USA.. AND I AINT SCARED!!
19. Posted by John Kerry | April 27, 2006 9:21 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 21:21
20. Posted by James | April 27, 2006 9:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Based on the comments, you guys should take a look at this article too. Kind of has a different take on why all of this is happening. It's an interesting read. http://jeffslade.blogspot.com/2006/04/land-of-entitlement-immigrant-protest.html
Keep up the good work!
James
20. Posted by James | April 27, 2006 9:43 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 21:43
21. Posted by cubanbob | April 27, 2006 10:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
On this issue the Republicans and I particularly include Bush on this, are just as full of shit as the Democrats. While it's not possible to absolutely stop illegal immigration, it can be drastically reduced without turning this country in to a real communist police state. Make the transfer of funds back extremely difficult and most won't come to begin with. And many will leave after a while. Enforce tougher sanctions on employers who willfully flout the law and stiffen the border patrols.
On this issue we have the perfect cynical political storm. The Democrats can't get enough Americans to vote for them so they need to import voters. The Republicans, particularly in agricultural states need to supply corporate farms
the labor force they need.
As an immigrant I sympathize with the illegals. The vast majority are just humble working people trying to feed their families. You can't hate a man for trying to feed his family. On the other hand giving them amnesty makes a mockery of our laws and makes fools out of legal immigrants.
Mexico will never change, never reform as long as the US acts as a safety valve for the corrupt Mexican elite.
21. Posted by cubanbob | April 27, 2006 10:01 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 22:01
22. Posted by Rich | April 27, 2006 10:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I still think it is amazing that these people come here to unite in large numbers to affect change in our country. Why can't they do it in their own country? That is where the problem really is for them. Their goverment...their officials. Those are the ones they need to rise up and march on. Unfortunately the bleeding hearts and scared poloticians here in our country will hash out some policy that will be a bureaucratic nightmare in an attempt to salve everyones feelings and cost us a fortune when a little tough love and law enforcement is all we really need.
Rich
22. Posted by Rich | April 27, 2006 10:22 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 22:22
23. Posted by Teri | April 27, 2006 11:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
How does failing to show up for work prove that you are doing "jobs that Americans won't do"?
23. Posted by Teri | April 27, 2006 11:33 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 23:33
24. Posted by LissaKay | April 27, 2006 11:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It cracks me up ... the ones that say "we" stole the southwest from the Mexicans and they are going to take it back. We should go back to Europe.
Uhh ... folks. Mexico ... tweren't your'ns to begin with. Ya'll don't remember them Aztec folk ya'll wiped out? Every last one of 'em. Least we let ya'll have your lives, and most of your land ... and we won ya fair and square in a fight ya'll picked.
So, OK. We'll all go back to Europe ... we'll drop ya'll off at Spain on our way through. Mmkay?
24. Posted by LissaKay | April 27, 2006 11:36 PM |
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Posted on April 27, 2006 23:36
25. Posted by Scrapiron | April 28, 2006 12:43 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Fill up the gas guzzling SUV's, load it down with cinder blocks. You wouldn't want to bog down when you run over a couple hundred criminals.
25. Posted by Scrapiron | April 28, 2006 12:43 AM |
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Posted on April 28, 2006 00:43
26. Posted by Scrapiron | April 28, 2006 12:48 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Flood the INS, FBI, NSA, Homeland Security (joke),Border Patrol and local police agencies with phone calls reporting a mass of criminals who slithered into the country. Take a lot of pictures and send them to the INS with a request they investigate every one of the criminals and the organizers of the criminal invasion. They've already made an enemy out of me and the next idiot show will make a few millions more enemies.
26. Posted by Scrapiron | April 28, 2006 12:48 AM |
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Posted on April 28, 2006 00:48
27. Posted by Marjorie Robinson | April 28, 2006 3:46 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Folks, our government has funded illegal immigration for years. Money is set aside for their health care, schools are reimbursed for "special" language translations, the IRS is prohibited from giving out information that would lead to finding illegal aliens. And now we expect that our government will do something positive? No, this will not happen. Bush is in bed with Fox and Mexico looks to the US as a paycheck. This is just all so sick. Now the entire issue of illegal has become (as expected) a "race" issue. Bullshit, illegal is illegal regardless of the color of the skin.
Anyway what I wanted to say before I went off on that rant, is what my biggest fear is that all it is going to take is one unruly person, one person to shove another, one kid to call another a name, one person to start any form of violence and can you just imagine? This is such an emotional issue, it has all the earmarks of a civil war. I just hope it is played out with some dignity for all concerned and no one gets physically hurt in the process, but history does not support having that many people in one place(s) without incident.
27. Posted by Marjorie Robinson | April 28, 2006 3:46 AM |
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Posted on April 28, 2006 03:46
28. Posted by Rick13 | April 28, 2006 9:06 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
They are going to show this country that we can and will get along without them! They will show once again that they are willing to break the law (blocking freeways, etc.) to get what they want. Go ahead and shoot yourselves in the foot again! We'll be watching the public opinion swing further towards "NO AMNESTY"!
28. Posted by Rick13 | April 28, 2006 9:06 AM |
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Posted on April 28, 2006 09:06
29. Posted by ken | April 28, 2006 9:27 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
There are a few businesses here that are posting signs in support of this that will be closed. I plan to never spend another dollar at those stores again.
29. Posted by ken | April 28, 2006 9:27 AM |
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Posted on April 28, 2006 09:27
30. Posted by Rob FIlomena | April 28, 2006 9:45 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
JOB BULLETIN TO UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS;
There will be a glut of employement opportunities available to all able bodied Americans who want to work on Monday May 1st. Go to a local business known to have empoloyed illegal immigrants and replace all of the self-righteous demonstrators.
This demonstration could be a referendum on the American unemployment rate.
The immigrants protesting are playing all of the wrong cards, marred by bad leadership, and alienating a largely sympathetic public.
And Kin, don't be naive, the Republicans will be out recruiting too with a campaign of misinformation that portrays the democrats as the party that put the felony language in the house bill.
30. Posted by Rob FIlomena | April 28, 2006 9:45 AM |
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Posted on April 28, 2006 09:45
31. Posted by mojo | April 28, 2006 10:38 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Re Michelle's docs:
She has what seems to be a letter from the "The Revolutionary Council and Provisional Government of Aztlan", urging marchers to "arm themselves".
Hey, why not wear baklavas as well, guys? Try and look as much like Paleo terrorist assholes as possible!
Throw these bums out.
31. Posted by mojo | April 28, 2006 10:38 AM |
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Posted on April 28, 2006 10:38
32. Posted by CurlyLarryMoe | April 28, 2006 11:14 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
well whoever put the felony info in the bill should be rewarded.;
32. Posted by CurlyLarryMoe | April 28, 2006 11:14 AM |
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Posted on April 28, 2006 11:14
33. Posted by ed | April 28, 2006 11:37 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmm.
@ Lee
So let me get this straight:
A. You think all illegals are hispanic?
B. You think that hispanic voters are *for* illegal aliens when polls show at least 50% are completely opposed to them?
C. You think that recruiting illegal aliens will somehow shore up political power for the Democrats?
33. Posted by ed | April 28, 2006 11:37 AM |
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Posted on April 28, 2006 11:37
34. Posted by Steve Fox | April 28, 2006 11:41 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes ca