
The government will release tapes to Judaical Watch today showing American Airlines Flight 77 crashing onto the the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001 today. Judicial Watch fought the government to obtain the tapes, still of which have previously been seen.
From CNN:
The Justice Department will hand over tapes showing American Airlines Flight 77 striking the building outside Washington to Judicial Watch, a public interest group that requested the video, the group said.
At least two tapes are expected, from different security cameras. The two cameras, from the same Pentagon checkpoint, show the building from different angles.Still photographs from those cameras showed the Pentagon on fire, but no images of the Boeing 757 striking the building have ever been made public.
The video to be released Tuesday was the source of those still photos, and shows the airplane more clearly.
"We fought hard to obtain this video because we felt that it was very important to complete the public record with respect to the terrorist attacks of September 11," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.
"Finally, we hope that this video will put to rest the conspiracy theories involving American Airlines Flight 77. As always, our prayers remain with all those who suffered as a result of those murderous attacks."
Release of the tapes should shed light on the nutjob contention that no plane hit the Pentagon, though for some reason I'm expecting to be underwhelmed by the footage.
We'll have the video here when it's released.
Update: Here's the CNN video coverage of the video release.
Update2: Pentagon release of two videos of American Flight 77 striking the Pentagon on September 11, 2001
Video 1 | Video 2 (RealPlayer required), and Windows Media versions of the files, Video 1 | Video 2
[Note: The picture above is a screen capture from Video 2 at around the :36 second mark.]
More coverage at Hot Air.
Here they are...
Video 1:
Video 2:
Comments (85)
It's about time. What was t... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Lee | May 16, 2006 3:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It's about time. What was the Justice Department afraid we'd discover?
From the CCN article linked above:
Conservatives who are Patriots, not Loyalists! Hurray!
1. Posted by Lee | May 16, 2006 3:05 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 15:05
2. Posted by Muslim Unity | May 16, 2006 3:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The American authorities have played a very dirty game in which several innocent people of all religions and cultures have died. The truth about September 11th is that it had been done by the American government so that it had an excuse to attack Afghanistan, they said Osama the evil pig was hiding there- but the truth is that he wasn't there. Bush kept giving him messages and they are still in contact. Osama is a slave of Bush and is not a TRUE Muslim, instead is a kaffir just like Saddam and other slaves of the dirty American government who wants to spread hate. Dear fellow brothers and sisters here all of you should learn the truth as September 11 was not an attack on America but an attack on every innocent man and woman on earth by evil politicians and terrorists supported by them who use religion as an excuse to kill.
2. Posted by Muslim Unity | May 16, 2006 3:10 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 15:10
3. Posted by Craig | May 16, 2006 3:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Sure thing buddy. Can't wait. By the way, did you take your meds this morning?
3. Posted by Craig | May 16, 2006 3:20 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 15:20
4. Posted by cadrys | May 16, 2006 3:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Tinfoil adjustment in ward 3, STAT!
4. Posted by cadrys | May 16, 2006 3:40 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 15:40
5. Posted by Tim | May 16, 2006 3:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I can tell you first hand that the conspiracy nut jobs are still saying the same thing. They just watched the video on CNN and STILL claim there is no plane, and that a missle did it. But at least the conspiracy has changed. Now they say CNN is in on it too...LOL
5. Posted by Tim | May 16, 2006 3:41 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 15:41
6. Posted by kbiel | May 16, 2006 3:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I was going to suggest that Muslim Unity receive the flaming, retard troll award for this quarter, but then he would probably consider that a conspiracy of the Bush-neocon-Jooo government to hurt his wittle feewings.
Banning him might be a more appropriate response.
6. Posted by kbiel | May 16, 2006 3:46 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 15:46
7. Posted by Peter F. | May 16, 2006 3:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
MU:
You left out that it's also all the fault of the joooooos.
Nitwit.
7. Posted by Peter F. | May 16, 2006 3:49 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 15:49
8. Posted by Clancy | May 16, 2006 3:59 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Even if we give MU the benefit of the doubt and accept everything he/she wrote as gospel, how can you reconcile the very last line - "...by evil politicians and terrorists supported by them who use religion as an excuse to kill."
[Muslim] Terrorists use religion as an excuse to kill, yet they are merely the puppets of the evil politicians??? And that was written by someone calling themselves Muslim Unity???
This is a prime example of how stupidity can be terminal.
8. Posted by Clancy | May 16, 2006 3:59 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 15:59
9. Posted by virgo | May 16, 2006 4:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
MU
Who are the seven innocents from different cultures and religions that died?
9. Posted by virgo | May 16, 2006 4:11 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 16:11
10. Posted by scsiwuzzy | May 16, 2006 4:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Damn. Getting the comments off to a running start with Grade A Delusional Thinking, eh MU?
Lee,
I can think of one reason not to release the tape, and it's the same reason sports teams watch footage of the games they lose: to learn why things didn't go as planned, and find a new tactic for victory. If the tape showed information that could show how the Pentagon avoided the damage the terrorists intended, they may have a case to withhold it.
Or it could just be that that the DoJ and DoD are notorious about hoarding documents...
10. Posted by scsiwuzzy | May 16, 2006 4:15 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 16:15
11. Posted by Heralder | May 16, 2006 4:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Muslim Unity: Quit life.
Love,
Heralder
11. Posted by Heralder | May 16, 2006 4:19 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 16:19
12. Posted by Heralder | May 16, 2006 4:28 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lee said:
""It's about time. What was the Justice Department afraid we'd discover?""
Excellent question Lee, and I'll tell you the answer.
It's in the first paragraph of the article you posted.
Now that I've pointed you back to your own link, perhaps you can think about it for a sec and come up with a more sensible question.
12. Posted by Heralder | May 16, 2006 4:28 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 16:28
13. Posted by BigCatGirl | May 16, 2006 4:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Muslim Unity,
It is conspiracy theory nuts like you which give cause to organizations like Judicial Watch to make public videos like the above on Flight 77.
13. Posted by BigCatGirl | May 16, 2006 4:37 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 16:37
14. Posted by odrady | May 16, 2006 4:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Muslim Unity? I thought it was the Judean People's Front?
Wait, or was it the People's Front of Judea?
14. Posted by odrady | May 16, 2006 4:46 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 16:46
15. Posted by virgo | May 16, 2006 4:48 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Im sorry Muslim Unity, Your right! after viewing the video clip I noticed Osama jump off the missle right before it hit the Pentagon,and if you look really carefully you will also notice Rumsfield sneaking Him away to meet with Bush..
I learn something new everyday on here!
15. Posted by virgo | May 16, 2006 4:48 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 16:48
16. Posted by jl | May 16, 2006 4:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
MU is amazing. Strange, the video showed nothing I didn't see on that day. Too bad MU wasn't around to see all of it happen. Would have been nice for him/her/it to share their opinion then.
16. Posted by jl | May 16, 2006 4:53 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 16:53
17. Posted by Maggie | May 16, 2006 4:56 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The French people still won't buy the Pentagon story...it's a Bush plot.
17. Posted by Maggie | May 16, 2006 4:56 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 16:56
18. Posted by Heralder | May 16, 2006 5:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
""The French people still won't buy the Pentagon story...""
If the French people's impotent opinions ever mattered in the first place I'd be concerned.
18. Posted by Heralder | May 16, 2006 5:38 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 17:38
19. Posted by Foilhat | May 16, 2006 6:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What? Is that supposed to be a video making the controversy going away? This will just make the conspiracy grow.
19. Posted by Foilhat | May 16, 2006 6:16 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 18:16
20. Posted by virgo | May 16, 2006 6:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So what is the conspiracy?
20. Posted by virgo | May 16, 2006 6:42 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 18:42
21. Posted by Lee | May 16, 2006 7:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
scsiwuzzy - If you've watched the video, do you think that's still the case?
21. Posted by Lee | May 16, 2006 7:37 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 19:37
22. Posted by Gringo | May 16, 2006 7:38 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
This video isn't proof of anything. You can barely see anything, it's just a streak and a mark in the camera.
Furthermore, let me add that if the airliner was clear, I'd know it was fake because you can't possible get a picture that clear from a security camera.
Bush isn't gonna put one over on me.
22. Posted by Gringo | May 16, 2006 7:38 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 19:38
23. Posted by Nick J | May 16, 2006 8:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Why is there smoke trailing out of the back of the plane? I see the fin of the plane, but that looks waaaay too small to be an airplane.
23. Posted by Nick J | May 16, 2006 8:12 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 20:12
24. Posted by Peter F. | May 16, 2006 8:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Underwhelmed is right. This is basically the same angle as the first camera, which I think shows far more detail than this second camera (just my opinion of what I can see on these crappy media players...I hate RealPlayer...it ReallySucks).
And do I really need to see more detail of the plane going into the building to convince me that it happened? Nah. Maybe things like eyewitnesses on the ground who saw what happened and families who were murdered on the flight may not be enough for MU, Lee and a host of other tinfoil conspriacy buffs, but no amount of footage, no matter how clear will ever be enough for them.
24. Posted by Peter F. | May 16, 2006 8:19 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 20:19
25. Posted by virgo | May 16, 2006 8:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
That jetliner is a couple hundred yards away! thats why it looks small, but that building is like 70 feet tall, so the scale is accurate.
25. Posted by virgo | May 16, 2006 8:53 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 20:53
26. Posted by Faith+1 | May 16, 2006 9:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Anyone who thinks anything but an airplane hit the Pentagon has their head so far up their ass they aren't worth the waste of oxygen it would take to call them immeasureably stupid.
26. Posted by Faith+1 | May 16, 2006 9:31 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 21:31
27. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | May 16, 2006 9:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lee,
My comment was made before the video was available for viewing (to me, at least-no streaming video until I am home).
So I'll fall back on my second posistion. The DoJ and DoD hoarde info, and are loathe to release it.
If that wasn't the case, we'd never need the FOIA in the first place.
27. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | May 16, 2006 9:39 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 21:39
28. Posted by Lee | May 16, 2006 9:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
scsiwuzzy - I agree.
Nick J: Why is there smoke trailing out of the back of the plane? I see the fin of the plane, but that looks waaaay too small to be an airplane.
I read reports that the plane clipped a few streetlights or stoplights as it headed in. The low altitude we see in the videos would confirm that it was just barely off the ground by the time if hit the Pentagon.
28. Posted by Lee | May 16, 2006 9:49 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 21:49
29. Posted by CurlyLarryMoe | May 16, 2006 10:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Gringo "Bush isnt gonna put one over on me"
thats great to hear Einstien!
"furthermore let me add,that if the airliner was clear id know it was fake because you cant possible get a picture that clear from a security camera."
The airliner is not clear! if it was clear we would be looking at Wonder Womans plane! geez some people.
29. Posted by CurlyLarryMoe | May 16, 2006 10:52 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 22:52
30. Posted by rimco | May 16, 2006 11:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
All I see in that screencap, and forgive me that I can't see the whole video as the link won't work, is a white blur... I'm not saying that is isn't a plane, but I can't say for sure that it is, either. This is hardly conclusive evidence either way, at least not based on that screencap. I find the idea of a cruise missile to be pretty hokey, but based on that photo, I don't see a plane either.
30. Posted by rimco | May 16, 2006 11:49 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2006 23:49
31. Posted by Steve | May 17, 2006 12:33 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
While Im not at ALL a conspiracy theorist, a lot of people are forgetting that this "cause" that Judicial Watch is perpetuating and pushing forward is that JW is a CONSERVATIVE group. Also, there are tapes from the Citgo station, the VA Dept of Transportation and a Sheraton Hotel that all purportedly show the attack on the Pentagon. If the conspiracy theorists are to be put to bed, they should release all tapes to the public domain.
31. Posted by Steve | May 17, 2006 12:33 AM |
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Posted on May 17, 2006 00:33
32. Posted by benning | May 17, 2006 8:07 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Steve, you can never put the conspiracy theorists to bed. They keep wandering into the living room, rubbing their eyes and asking for a glass of water, and X-Ray glasses.
Sensible people may have suspicions, but they will listen to the evidence and learn from it. Nutjobs won't.
32. Posted by benning | May 17, 2006 8:07 AM |
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Posted on May 17, 2006 08:07
33. Posted by CommonSense | May 17, 2006 11:24 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If it wasn't a Boeing 757 hitting the Pentagon, why did the survivors inside smell jet fuel and why were some of them burned by flaming jet fuel? Did they (the victims) go on tv and lie about the odor of jet fuel in the building and the burning jet fuel? Did the medical doctors who worked on the burn victims lie about the burns being caused by jet fuel? Conspiracy people are pretty irrational as far as I'm concerned.
33. Posted by CommonSense | May 17, 2006 11:24 AM |
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Posted on May 17, 2006 11:24
34. Posted by charcoal | May 17, 2006 1:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
As a former Air Force officer and a consultant to the FAA, I want to know how this "video" sheds any new light. First of all, it's not a video, but a series of still images. Second, you cannot tell what the object is. Can you honestly view these images and tell me what it is?
If the object was a 757, then it was basically taxiing across the Pentagon parking lot, because it is ridiculously close to the ground. How did the FAA radar operators not see a commercial airliner going 350+ mph at a low altitude?
I am not saying there is a conspiracy. All I am saying is that the "new" images do not show that a 757 hit the Pentagon. Why don't they release the video from the other surveillance cameras (the Sheraton, the gas station, and VA Dept. of Transportation)? If it was a 757, then let's see it and settle this thing for once.
34. Posted by charcoal | May 17, 2006 1:36 PM |
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Posted on May 17, 2006 13:36
35. Posted by Jeff | May 17, 2006 1:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Go back to sleep sheeple!
35. Posted by Jeff | May 17, 2006 1:58 PM |
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Posted on May 17, 2006 13:58
36. Posted by redrock | May 17, 2006 2:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
For those of you who think logically and don't believe everything you see and hear from our media.....the real story on 9/11 will continue to be a subject of substance. For those of you who believe in the story you were told and witnessed what the media showed, will render yourself to more lies in the future.
I don't discredit those who belive in the governments version, and just because some of us question the events of that day, does not mean we should be discredited either.
36. Posted by redrock | May 17, 2006 2:08 PM |
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Posted on May 17, 2006 14:08
37. Posted by Rob@L&R | May 17, 2006 2:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
My friend Chris was an eyewitness and saw a large, twin-engine airliner hit the Pentagon. But seeing it from directly underneath and behind after it flew over his van, he couldn't identify the airline or the model.
That's proof enough for me to believe that is a airliner in those videos.
37. Posted by Rob@L&R | May 17, 2006 2:10 PM |
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