- "I'd rather have a smaller following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith. We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do."
Dixie Chick Martie Maguire in Time Magazine, still turning up their noses at country music fans, who deserted them in droves after the controversy surrounding lead singer Natalie Maines telling a a London audience in 2003, "Just so you know, we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas." Speaking of Maines; her one regret about the incident... apologizing. "I apologized for disrespecting the office of the President," says Maines. "But I don't feel that way anymore. I don't feel he is owed any respect whatsoever."
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Fans limit what you can do?... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Tom Anger | May 22, 2006 12:54 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Fans limit what you can do? Not if you have real talent and integrity. Then there's the Dixie Chicks.
1. Posted by Tom Anger | May 22, 2006 12:54 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 00:54
2. Posted by ed | May 22, 2006 2:03 AM | Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Hmmm.
Does anyone really care about them anymore?
2. Posted by ed | May 22, 2006 2:03 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 02:03
3. Posted by Son Of The Godfather | May 22, 2006 3:24 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I've never felt so good to be left out of the "cool people" crowd.
3. Posted by Son Of The Godfather | May 22, 2006 3:24 AM |
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4. Posted by Good Lt. | May 22, 2006 5:07 AM | Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Dixie who?
4. Posted by Good Lt. | May 22, 2006 5:07 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 05:07
5. Posted by jd watson | May 22, 2006 5:11 AM | Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Stupid bitch.
5. Posted by jd watson | May 22, 2006 5:11 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 05:11
6. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | May 22, 2006 6:15 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
During the past three years, I've really discovered how much I love country music. I cannot name one song by the DC that I've heard on the radio, not can I name a single song title of theirs.
I'm also troubled by the sharp left turn Time has taken. I switched from Newsweek to Time back in 2000 because I thought Time was more balanced. Oh, well, that's another sunbcription I'll save.
6. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | May 22, 2006 6:15 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 06:15
7. Posted by TC@LeatherPenguin | May 22, 2006 6:54 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Going by that quote, it seems the Dipsies have adopted the "Air America Idiot SuperSecret Success Strategy: Small, rabid True Believer fan base is better than actual commercial rsults."
7. Posted by TC@LeatherPenguin | May 22, 2006 6:54 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 06:54
8. Posted by Retread | May 22, 2006 6:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wait til the DC find out the record company would rather they have a larger following of people willing to buy their CDs. Then, I guess, capitalism won't be owed any respect whatsoever.
8. Posted by Retread | May 22, 2006 6:58 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 06:58
9. Posted by Candy | May 22, 2006 7:53 AM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
I never broke CD's in half and threw them away until the Dixie Chicks crapped on America.
9. Posted by Candy | May 22, 2006 7:53 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 07:53
10. Posted by Tim | May 22, 2006 7:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Oh how "artistic" of her. I'm sure Toby Keith and Reba will enjoy reading that. Grow as we grow? She only wants fans that are gaining weight like she is? She's pretending it doesn't bother her when she looks at the crowd and sees all of those "wide open spaces"
10. Posted by Tim | May 22, 2006 7:58 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 07:58
11. Posted by sentinel | May 22, 2006 8:15 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I sucks having to record your music in a cardboard box on the street in Nashville.
11. Posted by sentinel | May 22, 2006 8:15 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 08:15
12. Posted by Rob in LA Ca. | May 22, 2006 8:53 AM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
F**k that stupid ass ho. Get the hell out of this Country and spend your remaining days partaking in the wonderful daily routines under Communism.
Just like she only wants her kind of fans , this Country should only retain certain types of citizens , patriotic , honorable , honest , productive and of sound mind. Get rid of the traitors , Commies , frauds and liars. Who needs this bunch of Democrats anyways with their shoelace and belly button lint taxes they impose so they can feel good and strong arm votes. Incompetant , untrustworthy and complete frauds.
12. Posted by Rob in LA Ca. | May 22, 2006 8:53 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 08:53
13. Posted by Imhotep | May 22, 2006 9:11 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I just saw a commercial for a Dixie Chicks comeback album and their previous behavior is exactly what I thought of.
Obviously, these girls didn't learn that people go to concerts to hear their music, not their political positions.
I'll be suprised if their music gets played on the radio.
13. Posted by Imhotep | May 22, 2006 9:11 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 09:11
14. Posted by epador | May 22, 2006 9:46 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Perhaps she's angling for a VP slot with Hillary?
14. Posted by epador | May 22, 2006 9:46 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 09:46
15. Posted by Falze | May 22, 2006 9:53 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Soon to be spotted near Seattle and similar spots...
'Next Week At The Montague Fairgrounds!
Sunday! Sunday! Sunday!
PUPPET SHOW
+
dixie chicks'
15. Posted by Falze | May 22, 2006 9:53 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 09:53
16. Posted by OregonMuse | May 22, 2006 9:54 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Martie Maguire and Natalie Maines have every right to speak out against the Iraq war and trash President Bush in public or on foreign soil, and the rest of us have every right not to buy Dixie Chicks albums. The latter seems to be getting a pretty good workout these days.
America is a wonderful country.
16. Posted by OregonMuse | May 22, 2006 9:54 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 09:54
17. Posted by SmartGuy | May 22, 2006 9:57 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Of course their songs should get played on the radio - on Air America (if it still exists). Sounds like they are going after the same demographic, and achieving the same level of commercial success.
17. Posted by SmartGuy | May 22, 2006 9:57 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 09:57
18. Posted by virgo | May 22, 2006 9:57 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hillary/Natalie : Ready to Run?
18. Posted by virgo | May 22, 2006 9:57 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 09:57
19. Posted by virgo | May 22, 2006 10:52 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
We also reserve the right to comment on them as the no talents they are wether here or more preferrably on foreign soil.
19. Posted by virgo | May 22, 2006 10:52 AM |
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20. Posted by Brad Warbiany | May 22, 2006 11:09 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Have you seen their most recent "hit"? They need to understand that you need to know your audience. Sure, Green Day can go to Europe and get an award for a song called "American Idiot", but they're a punk band. Country fans aren't going to accept that.
20. Posted by Brad Warbiany | May 22, 2006 11:09 AM |
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21. Posted by OregonMuse | May 22, 2006 11:20 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What's so jaw-droppingly boneheaded about this quote, in addition to the "our audiences are dwindling but we like it that way" idea, is the implied dissing of fellow artists Reba McEntire and Toby Keith. If the DCs keep up this trash talk, they will eventually alienate so many people that there will be only one place they can go.
Prairie Home Companion.
21. Posted by OregonMuse | May 22, 2006 11:20 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 11:20
22. Posted by Monica | May 22, 2006 11:24 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
They aren't very bright, are they? They are alienating their fan base. The "cool" people to which they are referring, which I assume means anti-war leftist, don't often listen to country music. It boggles the mind that they don't understand this.
22. Posted by Monica | May 22, 2006 11:24 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 11:24
23. Posted by SWLiP | May 22, 2006 11:27 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This reminds me of the line from Spinal Tap when the manager is asked why the audiences seem to be smaller. He replies that the audience isn't getting smaller; just more specialized.
23. Posted by SWLiP | May 22, 2006 11:27 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 11:27
24. Posted by Vegas Vic | May 22, 2006 11:38 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So they offered the world their "objective" opinions so (certain) people would think they we're cool? They managed to alienate most of country music, the very soul of their music that made them what they are. The end result is they will not be remembered for their music, but their politics. Shallow people all.
24. Posted by Vegas Vic | May 22, 2006 11:38 AM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 11:38
25. Posted by Gmac | May 22, 2006 12:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Natalie Maines is entitled to express her opinions like everyone else, even to the point of alienating the remaining fan base she has.
The DC's income relies on music sales that are based on fans purchasing the product they put out or attendance of their concerts. I'm willing to bet that there's going to be a significant income reduction based on their latest statements, not that they aren't already used to such occurences.
25. Posted by Gmac | May 22, 2006 12:13 PM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 12:13
26. Posted by grouch | May 22, 2006 1:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think the kind of fans they "don't want" are well represented by most of the posters on this thread. Can't tolerate diversity of opinion? Maybe it's you who need to move. Last time I checked it was OK to speak your mind. Agree, disagree, buy or destroy their cds, it doesn't matter. Also, isn't it ironic that the sentiment they're being crucufied for is now shared by the vast majority of Americans?
26. Posted by grouch | May 22, 2006 1:09 PM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 13:09
27. Posted by epador | May 22, 2006 2:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
LOL virgo, I hadn't had my caffeine yet when I posted. Glad you added that thought that must have been subconsciously there for me!
I don't think too many folks are saying NM shouldn't speak her mind, but its interesting to see the folks that agree with what she says are trying to diss the ones that don't by saying the anti-NM's want to suppress her freedom of speech. I think the anti-NM point is that her speech is suppressing her financial and perhaps artistic success. It's a good thing money isn't everything.
However I try to operate on the principal that it's better to smile and be pleasant, and simply offer your opponents the opportunity to discredit themselves as often as possible on their own. Scientologists and extremists seem particularly expert and prone to such behavior.
27. Posted by epador | May 22, 2006 2:18 PM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 14:18
28. Posted by jumbo | May 22, 2006 2:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Dang, I can't quit listening to them over Natalie Maines's latest gratutious injection of offensive political invective: I did it after her first go-round. And I wasn't convinced to come back by the crocodile tears obviously dictated by a panicked manager after the fallout over the last one.
What IS is with these people? Do they WANT to sell 75% fewer cd's? Do they WANT to be has-beens? Do they WANT to have to tour Europe exclusively? Do they WANT to be the subject of a VH-1 "where are they now?" program, and get tracked down at whatever daycare, landscaping service or bar where they went to work at after the music gig went sour? They sure act like it.
28. Posted by jumbo | May 22, 2006 2:25 PM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 14:25
29. Posted by epador | May 22, 2006 2:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I reviewed the lyrics as suggested above of not just one but all of the songs on the new album. There are many referrals to being isolated due to speaking out, of battling against the mainstream, and a stubborn refusal to cave into popular demand. These are traits that are part of the earliest DC tradition, but seem sadly overwrought in the current situation.
If ya wanna make music that you enjoy and pushes the boundaries, then do it.
Using the fame and the platform it provides to make political commentary can be dangerous, and using ridicule and disrespect without restraint politically can torpedo credibility as their history demonstrates. Now Carlos Mencia does this successfully, but he doesn't pretend to be a musician.
I have enjoyed their art and sense of humor, though it grated at times (the demise of Earl a particularly good example, coming from three ladies who wail about needing just more love to solve the world's problems). If I wanted to hear myopic political commentary from a self-sure and self-proclaimed expert, I'd listen to Bill Maher or Rush Limbaugh. Sadly I've had to lump DC in that category as well.
29. Posted by epador | May 22, 2006 2:53 PM |
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30. Posted by scsiwuzzy | May 22, 2006 5:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I hear the new single all too often on Sirius New Country...
Despite what grouch thinks, I believe NM can say what she wants, but I also have the right not to listen. And the right not to pay her to say it, and the most recent single is just a big FU to much of their former audience.
Anybody else think of what happened in the film Anchorman, when Burgundy tells San Diego to "f* yourselves"? And why can't the DCs understand the whole consequence of actions thing?
30. Posted by scsiwuzzy | May 22, 2006 5:51 PM |
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Posted on May 22, 2006 17:51
31. Posted by JD | May 23, 2006 1:05 AM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Where the Dixie Twits ran into problems is that they did their first little rant overseas, instead of having the ovaries enough to do it in front of a crowd in the place they were talking about, e.g. Texas.
They knew that the folks in London would lap it up, and they hoped that the press would forget.
Lesson number one to Future Disaffected Musical Twit: If you want to sell records, don't eternally piss off your established audience. Coming up with a new audience is difficult to do once you've pissed away the first one.
Lesson number two to Future Disaffected Musical Twit: The Blogosphere Never Forgets. When you pop off in London, it's read in Houston before you go to bed that night.
31. Posted by JD | May 23, 2006 1:05 AM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 01:05
32. Posted by Adjoran | May 23, 2006 4:38 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Natalie Maines . . . wasn't she the great big fat girl?
32. Posted by Adjoran | May 23, 2006 4:38 AM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 04:38
33. Posted by MikeSC | May 23, 2006 11:17 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The thing I love is that, try as they might, these talentless hacks weren't exactly great country artists and they lack the artistic chops to cross-over. It's not like they blew people's minds with their country stuff.
They are country artists and they sold out the country fans to try and appease leftists who HATE their music as it is. Good career move. Shelley Long made a better career move than that when she left Cheers.
-=Mike
33. Posted by MikeSC | May 23, 2006 11:17 AM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 11:17
34. Posted by redneck | May 23, 2006 10:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
While all people have a right to their opinion you people blow me away. If you represent the majority the majority scares the hell out of me.I have never heard more hate spewed over an opinion.
34. Posted by redneck | May 23, 2006 10:38 PM |
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35. Posted by april | May 23, 2006 11:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I have to agree with redneck. Its sad that there are so many people so full of hate who cant' except the opinions of others. Without getting into their album specifics, President Bush's approval rating is around 31%. They never said they hated america b/c they don't, but like the other 69% of the nation, the see where credit it due.
35. Posted by april | May 23, 2006 11:32 PM |
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36. Posted by heff | May 24, 2006 1:49 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
WHY do famous people feel they have the right to just blab about whatever they want and we're all supposed to listen and then thank them for it? Just shut up and SING already and if you're going ot spew your political babble out, then whatever backlash you receive is deserved.
36. Posted by heff | May 24, 2006 1:49 AM |
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Posted on May 24, 2006 01:49
37. Posted by TrueAmerican | May 24, 2006 2:05 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Speaking your mind and standing up for what you believe in is what Country Music and America is all about. To say these people are unamerican is going against the values and foundations of this great nation.
To call the Dixie Chicks names like many of you have (Adjoran, jd watson, etc.) is simply childish.
And to deny that these women are talentless is naive.
Whether you agree with them or not, it is there right by OUR constitution to speak their mind. I am a huge Country fan and after all this, an ever bigger Dixie Chick fan. Their new album is a triumph and is great both lyrically and musically.
They will always be in my CD Changer right next to Reba. Toby was taken out when his music stopped being creative...
37. Posted by TrueAmerican | May 24, 2006 2:05 AM |
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Posted on May 24, 2006 02:05
38. Posted by bran | May 24, 2006 3:23 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
amen TrueAmerican. I agree with you 100%
38. Posted by bran | May 24, 2006 3:23 AM |
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Posted on May 24, 2006 03:23
39. Posted by mdw | May 24, 2006 6:56 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wow! The Ditzy Chicks and I finally agree on something - may their fans be few!
39. Posted by mdw | May 24, 2006 6:56 AM |
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