Lets not forget about the video that CNN aired of our troops "killing innocent civilians" of which the troop that was taped and was in question was finally exonerated because the body was rigged with explosives...

CNN seems to take one side of the issue no matter who is doing the shooting. Their only outrage is when an american kills a terrorist, but when they kill us it is "the unvarnished truth".

CNN is a 99 44/100 % democ'rat party network so what do you expect from them. Anti-american media traitors working for an Anti-American political party of traitors.

Tie the horse's a**e* to the donkeys.

Please explain if you all will what the difference is between CNN airing Al Qaeda propaganda videos of attacks on our troops and the Republican National Committee airing political ads containing Al Qaeda videos of attacks on our troops?

Larkin, if you don't know the diff, you're pretty dense.

The MSM are only further damaging their own reputation, as they have repeatedly during the Bush administration.

The legacy of their childish management and poor judgment will hasten the day they are no longer accepted as a legitimate news forum.

Blogs and other non-traditional media almost always do better.

"I think Americans like to think we're all in this together," Hunter said."

We are in this together, and getting the truth out there, amidst the lies told by the Republican adminstration, is part of that very positive and patriotic effort. One need only consult Colin Powell for proof of the Republican effort at misinformation aimed at the American public.

Shutting down the free flow of information is not productive. Be suspicious of any government that does not want you to know all the facts.

Congrats, #2 Lee.

Herman is now #1.

Larkin, you make it too easy.

The Republicans are openly partisan, trying to win an election.

CNN is nominally objective and neutral.

By comparing the two, are you saying the GOP is objective and neutral, or CNN is partisan?

J.

We are in this together, and getting the truth out there, amidst the lies told by the Republican adminstration, is part of that very positive and patriotic effort. One need only consult Colin Powell for proof of the Republican effort at misinformation aimed at the American public. Posted by: Lee at October 21, 2006 07:18 PM

Well, I agree, to a point. We should be "in this together," but CNN has obviously decided to be in another place far removed from "togetherness."

As for truth, this terrorist video is far from the truth.

On Oct. 9th in Denver, I helped set up a traveling memorial called EYES WIDE OPEN...there were a pair of boots with names attched for every brave troop killed in Iraq. They were laid out in percise rows by State.

After it was up I walked along each row. I noticed names, ages, saw the pictures and letters that had been attached in previous cities.

The sickness that our "War President" has visited upon the family and friends of the dead is so much more extensive than simple numbers like 81 killed and over 500 wounded in this month.

Where is the outrage over the fact that these troops arriving back in flag drapped honor to Dover are forbidden to be shown? It is not to protect the family. It is to shield a nation.

There should be more vivid images. As a disabled vet I have been sickened for 35 years by those who refuse to be confronted with the reality of war.

Maybe..just maybe if children were exposed on TV to dead and mangled bodies in uniform they might grow up determined to seek other solutions.

CNN will continue to do what they can as the US arm of Al Jazeera to humanize terrorists, and demonize our military.

The only way I see to fight back is to addreess their advertisers. A company like P&G, at P&G.com, can not afford to lost a substantial market share that disagrees with CNN actions.

I have already written them a letter(they make it very hard to know who to contact) and am working on drawing up a list of all of their products.

We cant expect CNN to have a heart, so maybe we can address them through their advertisers?

re: nogo postal

What's your point ? War is ugly ?

I don't think anyone has argued that it's not. However, to borrow a phrase 'War is an ugly thing, but not the uglies of things'.....

Moronic actions of the CNN reporters involved in the shooting of this video just go to show exactly how biaist they truly are. There was absolutely no value in showing such a video except to the insurgents, supporters and sypathizers of al Qaida. If their only explanation is that they wanted to show the unvarnished truth about what our soldiers have to contend with then why haven't they shown the hardships that our men and women in Iraq have to deal with on a daily basis while the rest of us here in the US sit on our fat butts and criticize their efforts. There is no more value to showing this type of video than there would be to show the execution of a murderer sitting on death row. However it is extremely painful to the families of those serving to protect our freedom to do such dumb things. We need to wake up and come together and understand that this war will be fought. It's just a matter of will it be fought there in a distant land where at worst we will also bring freedom and liberty to those that have been denied for so long or it will be fought here on our own soil where most people have taken those same freedoms and liberties for granted for so many years. If it comes to our soil it will end up effecting several generations to come which has never occured in this country since the civil war, simply because we have become so soft. The actions of CNN were vial and unbelievably uncaring and yes unpatriotic of those involved in making such a decision to air this video.

"Maybe..just maybe if children were exposed on TV to dead and mangled bodies in uniform they might grow up determined to seek other solutions."

Thanks, Mary Moon.

What "solution" was available to stop Hitler and Mussolini? Totalitarian slavery? Ok, then.

The ugliness of war shouldn't delude one into believing it is never the right choice.

CNN is only being truthful as to what is really happening. Don't knock them for telling the truth? Or, would you rather CNN lie to the American public. The public is fed up with lies, coverups, and corruptions. We want change and we'll prove it on November 7th.

"Seditious scoundrels"????? One could reasonably argue that airing the film is distasteful, obscene or lots of other repugnant things. But seditious? I suggest that the writer go look up the meaning before tossing around that kind of nonsense.

Of course the underlying assumtion of the right wing of this country is that its citizens are too stupid to discern the truth. That's the arrogance of the right. That's the arrogance of Bush and his bunch of yes men. It's called hubris and it's one of the reasons folks are fed up with the right wing.

CNN isn't the only MSM tv outfit that is broadcasting the propaganda of the terrorists. PMSNBC ABC C-BS and the BBC are also doing the same thing. This outfits should be kicked out of the embed program.

The press should have been controlled like it was in WW2. Then again, most of the press during that war supported the war effort (unlike the anti-American press today) and some of the most brilliant reporting came out of the Second World War.

People like Ernie Pyle and Joe Rosenthal (the man who took the second photo of the flag raising at Iwo Jima) did all they could bring the stories of the ordinary soldier to the American people.

nogo postal,
Wake up and get a clue. 1st - - In fact the prosecution of the actions in Iraq have been the cleanest and least destructive to our military than any actions undertaken by our military in the last 50 yrs. We had more KIA in one day than they've have in a month while we were in VN. So get some facts.

2d - - I'm understanding from your comments that you want to teach our children a to hate war by exposing them to the violence of war on a regular basis. That is about the most ludicris and moronic statement I've heard in a while. If you use your head and think just a little bit, you'll figure out that many of the men that have so vehimently sworn to kill any American, civilian or military are men that have come from precisely from that kind of an environment. A environment of daily violence as a young person will certainly raise an adult that understands only violence and seeks it for the resolution of all their probles.

But then I would have to guess from your immature and less than intelligent responses above that you are probably a rather young inexperienced, unworldly, and probably not to well educated person. So I guess we must accept your words as your right to free speech. I just hope and pray you aren't old enough to vote. God knows what those of your ilk would do to our country.

NOTICE!

From this day forward I no longer read anything posted by Lee. He has proven himself to be a retarded idiot and I will not waste my time or give him any acknowledgment. He is a mere insect to me.

So Lee if you are reading this STFU!

justice58: "Or, would you rather CNN lie to the American public."

hmmmm? Flashback to 2003. Eason Jordan, Prez of CNN admits to: "knowing for the past decade of the atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein as chief news executive of CNN...but not reporting them for fear of endangering those involved and to make sure CNN got to stay in Baghdad"

So CNN was a shill for Saddam for over TEN YEARS!! And you're worried NOW about them having them lie to us???

p.s. Eason Jordan admited to this ONLY because he knew we would uncover documents showing it anyway. Otherwise he would have kept right on shilling for Saddam!!

Sweet Jesus.

Asking to remove embedded CNN reporters is just another empty stunt.According to Michael Yon,there are only about 2 American reporters presently embedded with troops today. (The Weekly Standard 10/30/06)

Nogo postal:
Re: the "EYES WIDE OPEN" display. Have you received permission from the families of the dead soldiers to use their names etc for your anti-war rant? My son is in Iraq, 2nd tour, and thank God he is safe, but if anything happened to him and you then used his name for your display, I would literally trash it. You see, he chose to go, he knows the risks, and I am very proud of him. You and your ilk would be very sorry if you attempted to abuse his dedication. I guarantee it!!!

Good article folks-- I'm just browsing the internet finding blogs on this subject and voicing my opinion that CNN is the scum of the earth and deserves to lose their broadcast liscence over this. Thank you for bringing this despicable topic to the attention of the public to let them know how derranged and vile CNN really is! CNN thinks the fact that some emailers with equally foul ethics agreeing with them gives them liscence to post their garbage on the internet. CNN will justify selling out American soldiers and their families with a gusto that turns the stomach every time!

You can read my rant on the subject at:
sacredscoop.com

Jay Tea,

What I am saying is that CNN is a for-profit business and they use Al Qaeda videos to increase their ratings.

The RNC is also a for-profit business and they use Al Qaeda videos in order to get votes.

Neither is "wrong" necessarily because there's this thing we have in America called freedom of speech.

CNN isn't obligated to tow the government line, and the RNC also has the right to tow Al Qaeda's line if it wants to. I think the RNC is stupid to promote Al Qaeda's message, but I defend their right to do it.

As for the rest of you who are so enraged by CNN I have a suggestion: change the channel. It's clear that some of you just can't handle the reality of the war in Iraq.

The evident lack of concern by the moonbats here for the visual depiction of an American soldier being assassinated merely confirms our suspicions that these leftists are not really on America's side in this conflict. They say they "support the troops but not the war," but the obvious reality is they support neither.

The quote Mike excerpted above is from John Stuart Mill:

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

True dat.

ah..Doug.just got home and read your response..I assumed my post would be understood as it was intended. Real war isn't some movie or video game.
Americans like to sanitize events they find offensive. Well small Iraqi children dead from our offensive power is offensive. A 19 year old female troop lying in her own blood after an IED blew apart her Humvee is offensive. I am not saying it should be like Clockwork Orange...or that kids must see it. But if their parents would maybe they would think twice...and if children saw it... it might open a dialouge with their parents.

As for experience, it is true that I have not been in the Persian Gulf since 1970 when I was a crypto operator (CTO) on a Navel ship like the Liberty and the Pueblo..I am sure things have changed..
since then..and I never was in direct combat in Viet Nam although my disabilty stems from my assignment at NAVCOM in Saigon..

I will bow to your knowledge as I am sure your military experience is much more recent than mine.
..and I probably received my degrees from colleges much less prestigious than yours..
..however..as a grade school teacher for 25 years I do know more about the abilities of children than you do...and every day my classroom has been one of dignity and compassion that the students not only feel for themselves but their classmates..

As for Duncan Hunter..just google Duncan Hunter scandal ...he and the Dukester were sleeping in the same Defense Contractors bed..night all

As for eyes wide open..it has been in over 80 cities..the notes and letters were attached by family members..if the nearest family member objects..the boots remain but with the tag "Name removed at family reguest." You can probably make this request through
http://www.afsc.org/eyes/index.php
However, please watch the video..this exhibition is about honoring the fallen...most of the volunteers who helped set it up in Denver were vets from all wars since Korea..it was set up and removed with the dignity it deserved.

What I don't get from all this hand-wringing is that your focus is entirely on the damage our troops cause, the suffering visited on those poor terrorists, the awful things that happen to our troops, and the awful things that are trotted out by CNN and the other old media as examples of why we should cut and run from Iraq.

When was the last time you saw an angry story from CNN that emphasized the intentional and routine murder of civilians by terrorists, the use of child suicide bombers, human shields in the middle of battle by inurgents, the results of intentional targeting of civilians with rocket attacks, the manipulation of our media, or any other story that might even hint that our presence in Iraq might possibly be justified? About five years.

How about the New York Times? MSNBC? ABC News? NBC News? CBS News? The LA Times? NPR? The Boston Globe? The Manchester Guardian? The Red Star Tribune? The DNC? Most any Democrat member of Congress? DailyKos? Democratic Underground? Error Amerika?

What nowent postal is whining about is one-sided and myopic. It is not about news transparency. It is not about neutral reporting of the news. It's agenda-driven journalism, and it weakens both journalism and our freedom of the press so dear to the weepy hearts of liberals everywhere. He doesn't see anything wrong in this kind of reporting because it fits his world view. Since he doesn't see it, we must all be wrong. It's the same logic that forbids dodgeball and tag in schoolyards, rigid zero-tolerance policies for even the most mundane over-the-counter drugs, bans on the Pledge of Alliegance, and oh-so-sensitive rewrites of world and American history, a nearly complete disregard of economics in the curriculum, and a not-so-subtle indoctrination of our kids with a leftist worldview. Do I think it's deliberate? Hell, no. Do I see the consequences? Hell, yes, and so do many others. When your only tool is a hammer, pretty soon every problem starts looking like a nail.

The evil and the viciousness of crackpot terrorists and the deliberate suffering visited on fellow Muslims by Muslim death squads is never discussed by the drive-by news. The sacrifices made by our troops and the constant danger they face every day are never news stories, except in one-minute fluff pieces like CNN produces. You don't see stories about the aftermath of IED's on Iraqi kids. The remotest possibility that we might be right to be in Iraq and Afghanistan and that there really is a global war to win never makes the news. The bloody consequences of the West's squeamishness is not a topic. We never hear of any constructive alternatives as to how we might win this thing, either from our limp-wristed betters in the media, or from anybody in the Democrat party. It's all about Bush.

People are dying on both sides. If fairness and trooth is really the issue, then when has CNN presented the other side? How about the other Bush-caused-it media?

Thanx, BobDog. You saved me the trouble.

As if there aren't enough terrorist snuff films out there, CNN puts their "legitimate" face to it because they showed one and used "good taste".

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TJM, CNN reporters are not all Americans. They're a world-wide organization.

Considering what average grunt has to worry about surviving in Iraq, if I were the Commander-in-Chief and one of my generals told me such videos were affecting the morale of the troops, these reporters would be booted from being embedded with the troops. Freedom of the press be damned. I cannot understand how some people in these threads can criticize the administration for using propaganda to help OUR side, and completely condone propaganda from the other side which demoralizes these young people directly in harms way.

The RNC is also a for-profit business and they use Al Qaeda videos in order to get votes.

The RNC is not a for-profit organization and to say so is sheer lunacy. They have the same tax-exempt status as the DNC. If you want to bash the RNC--you can do so, but please get your facts straight. In my estimation, the DNC and their minions in the MSM have been using these videos to buy votes, not the other way around.

The subject here is how the MSM--the Communist News Network (the American branch of TASS)--in particular, have been lying about how our troops in Iraq have been committing atrocities against the Iraqi civilians. 95% of these charges have been proven false and were proven to be the work of the terrorists; yet the MSM continues to report them, as our soldiers are responsible for most of them.

Criminal News Network shills for dems!

TD Larkin- oh I can handle the reality of war alright- what I can't stand though are scumbag 'journalists' and CNN is right full of scumbag journalism- what's even more disgusting however, are all those who apologize for CNN and excuse their despicable behaviour- There is a line that you don't cross- and CNN clearly crossed it for profit- profit is one thing- but advancing a terrorist agenda is quite another thing- when you encourage terrorism by being their lackeys & showing their propoganda material, you aren't worthy of the honor of being called an American- excuse their actions all you like- they're still scumbags- have a nice day

SacredScoop.com

stan25: You're right, I'm such a dunce I had no idea that the RNC was a not-for-profit. Do you understand what the definition of sarcasm is?

CNN and the RNC are both organizations that make money, pay salaries, and promote their agenda and viewpoints. The fact that the RNC doesn't pay taxes is really a minor distinction.

So much selective moral outrage at CNN but nary a whisper about the RNC's use of similar terrorist propaganda in its ads just demonstrates the raging hypocrisy of many of you who are posting comments here.

What outrages me is seeing President Bush repeating bin Laden's threats and messages during his speeches. Personally, I don't give a damn what the mass murderer of 3,000 of our fellow citizens (and my cousin) has to say. All I want to know about bin Laden is the location of his grave or his holding cell.

And it also outrages me to see the RNC showing a road-side bomb blowing up a US military vehicle in Iraq that, in all likeliehood, resulted in the death of one or more of our heroes. Politicians who use the sacrifice of our heroes to save their precious positions of power are beneath contempt.

As for CNN, the sniper video was of no news value and they shouldn't have shown it. But they also show every night the carnage and mayhem being sown by the terrorists against the people of Iraq and our efforts to stop it. If you don't like CNN, change the channel.