Hard to believe anyone would be stupid enough to let Kerry open his mouth at their campain rally.

So Kerry honestly believes that EVERY person serving in Iraq is an idiot. Many are black and/or female.

WoW.

Well, he speaks his mind honestly - and the thoughts of most all liberals....

THAT'S typical liberal UNsupport of out troops....

AND disdain for minorites....

I wonder if Kerry feels the same way about those who served in other wars. Like say Vietnam for instance.

Without the rest of the speech in context I'm wondering if this was really a swipe at Bush for "being stupid and stuck in Iraq"? In other words, was he taking a swipe at Bush, missed and hit the soldiers instead? We already know that IQ wise Kerry isn't one of the brightest and doesn't think on his feet too well. Don't forget that at the height of being accused of being a flip-flopper he handed the Repubs a classic sound bite of "...voted for before voting against..." line.

Either way he is an ass and stupid for saying it I'm just wondering to what depth his stupidity in this remark goes?

Kerry should know by know exactly what size shoe his mouth wears. I can't wait to hear him explain what he meant.

Please God,

Let him out more.

I suppose that's possible, Faith, but you'd really expect him to use the phrase "get us stuck" rather than "get stuck". Us is one of those rabidly friendly words politicians are trained to use, and use often...

Such an idiot.

Once in awhile, a liberal like Kerry REALLY say what they believe....

The rest of the time, they lie.

Lee must be sleeping off after last night's bender. How about Mongo and Hugh?

"You'll be shocked at what John Kerry said about our troops in Iraq "

No, not really!

Typical con post. Take something out of context to beat the messenger with while ignoring the real issue. The fact is we need the poor to fight our wars and Bush and his cronies are doing a great job of producing and recruiting them.

I say again sign John Conyers bill to bring back the draft.....NO EXCEPTIONS. John Kerry's a good intelligent honest man....he's certainly no Con.

"....newly released Pentagon demographic data show that the military is leaning heavily for recruits on economically depressed, rural areas where youths' need for jobs may outweigh the risks of going to war"

"Many of today's recruits are financially strapped, with nearly half coming from lower-middle-class to poor households, according to new Pentagon data based on Zip codes and census estimates of mean household income. "

"Nearly two-thirds, 64 percent, of recruits to the military were from counties that have average incomes lower than the national median National Priorities Project said. The group looked at Department of Defense data for 2004."

"If you are poor in America and you are young, you may be able to join the military. We couldn't have a voluntary military without high levels of poverty. And without a voluntary military, we couldn't have perpetual wars because then the politicians and their financial supporters would have to send their own sons and daughters to fight. They wouldn't be any more likely to do this than they would be to volunteer to go themselves to fight. They far prefer to send your sons and daughters to kill and die in foreign lands. In actuality, only one member of Congress had a child fighting in Iraq."

http://www.counterpunch.org/krieger05242003.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/03/AR2005110302528_3.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/krieger05242003.html

muirgeo, why don't you do this world, and mankind a great big favor, and just cease to exist.

muirgeo,,,

out of context???

It couldn't be MORE in context.

....and FOR ONCE - Kerry was ACTUALLY being truthful on how he feels about the troops.

Sorry Muirgeo, no way to spin this one.

Kerry is and always has been an elitist piece of crap.

Oh please, PLEASE let the democrats campaign on bringing back the draft. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

Being "smart" and being knowledgeable are two different meanings. You do not have to be smart to go to school you go to school to get knowledge. Smarts just helps you get that knowledge. Something Kerry seems to be lacking in both areas.

I'll translate for Muriego:

"Here's a long post to see if I can distract from what my fellow idiot liberal said, cuz there is no defending it."

So Muirego, since the statement printed was taken verbatim, from what John Kerry said, why, do you not put it into context for us? If you want to defend that communist liar go ahead.

Kerry's upper class disdain of those of lower socio-economic standing is an atrocity. He just cannot contain himself. Had a Republican uttered this the Clinton News Network would be running s special on the military and showing how diverse it was as we sit here.

there is NO additional context needed...and no POSSIBLE excuse for Kerry!

America dodged a huge bullet when this a**hole was defeated in 2004.

I can't wait for John F'ing Kerry to throw hit hat (the one he got from the secret CIA guy) in the ring.

He's so entertaining and an absolute hoot to make fun of.

I have never seen a bigger fraud in politics as John F'ing Kerry.

He should stick to what he knows best...Spending money earned by some woman's other husband.

Gee, John, if you don't want to go to Iraq, maybe you could just marry some rich babe and become a US senator.

What a pathetic, useless excuse for human tissue John Kerry is.

No wonder Theresa Heinz drinks!

I'm trying to think of which one is dumber, Kerry or Maher....

Can an IQ be a negative number???

I say again sign John Conyers bill to bring back the draft.....NO EXCEPTIONS.
Maybe the democrats should run with this up to Nov. 7th. Sounds like a winner!

One of Karl Rove's favorite tricks is to slip liberals the truth serum and watch em go.

Karl, you devil you.

"with nearly half coming from lower-middle-class to poor household"

So nearly half come from half the population. Shocking.

Can an IQ number be negative? I don't see why not. John F'n Kerry is an intellectual black hole and not only has no thoughts of his own, but actually sucks thoughts out of the heads of others, creating a zone a stupidity around him. The good news is, being a democrap, that there are so few thoughts or ideas among the people he associates with, that he isn't getting any bigger.

PS. I believe the "reinstitute the draft, no exceptions" gig is the brainchild (guffaw) of Charlie Rangel. And speaking of Charlie, there is an old technique for talking after a laryngectomy. The patient swallows air and burps it back out again, producing speech. Charlie proves it works from the other end as well.

Muirgeo makes an interesting fact based argument, and backs his statements up with sources.

Rather than respond to his ideas and his argument with an honest discussion, I'm seeing what looks more like chattering monkeys in the trees flinging verbal poo.

Let's consider... Kerry is a decorated war veteran, recognized for bravery and injuries on the battle field.

Now, the current administration... Bush didn't want to do the vietnam tour, so got strings pulled to get a cush assignment protecting Texas skies from the vietnamese. He wanted to be a pilot like his father, but unlike his father who was a real life hero, he was a bit of a wash out. His final status on discharge was with flight status revoked. From what we can tell, he never really made an honest effort to even finish his military service.

Then there is Cheney. This guy applied for and received five (5) deferrals from military service. Apparently, he had things that were more important to do that getting his ass shot up in the mud in Southeast Asia.

And Karl Rove... Well he managed to dodge the draft by going to school part time in Utah for a while, then dropping out, then going to Maryland and getting deferred, then dropping his classes there.

Well, then Tom Delay... Remember, he was the guy that claimed he tried to enlist, but was told that the "minorities" had already filled most of the available positions. You remember when that came up? Back when we learned George Walker Bush's vice president Dan Quale had also weasled out of vietnam.

Denny Hastert? Nope, nothing there. No service on his resume.

Other than Donald Rumsfeld, who has legitimate military service, the Republican leadership is filled with draft dodgers, draft weasles, and chickenhawks.

So when we talk about Kerry being "elitest", we should also recognize that he actualy had mud on his boots.

Not everybody can say that.

Some had fathers that made calls to congressmen.

Or pretended to go to school.

Or lied in any number of ways.

And some people served....

John

John Kerry-the gift that keeps on giving. Please, no questioning of his patriotism or his concern about the troops. His feelings on the subjects are self evident to all but the LLL's.

PS-You gotta love how the LLL's are trying to spin this. If they don't watch out they will turn into centrifuges.

I see that Muriego has slithered away in shame.

And just think. This guy could have been Commander in Chief of our military.

Looks like I have to give back my Bachelors and Juris Doctorate degrees now.

Kerry has demeaned our military for 35 years now- nothing has changed. He just admits his beliefs and the beliefs of the left more often now...

Muirego,
watch the entire video. There is no doubt about what he meant. Once again, you define hypocrite to perfection.

The fact that military in all branches are