5th place!!?

Damn.

Oops!

About Ms. Malkin being so high: I suspect that's from her reprinting all of her hate mail.

We need some dedicated folks to go to some of those other right-wing sites and start cussing up a storm.

Ohhh...all right. ;)

Not too surprised about Scrappleface. If Scott isn't an Evangelist, he's pretty darn close.

"You are fined five credits for repeated violations of the verbal morality statute." [Demolition Man]

Fuck you, Jay. ;)

What, We're not trying for No 1? Dang, I thought this blog was going places. ;o)

The left-leaning blogs are many times more popular than the blogs on the right, which explains some of the higher counts.

From the survey blog post at News Buckit:
"Barring some mass programming shenanigans on the part of Right blogospheric bloggers, this pretty well fits, and goes beyond, the predictions most of us would have made."

Yes, my prediction would be that the right would take the raw data, apply faulty analysis, then not be bright enough to interpret the results -- and that's precisely what happened.

Oh, no -- Lee's being suppressed! Help, help, come and see the violence inherent in the system! The Man is keeping Lee from forming his own analysis and showing that the right-wingers are, in reality, far more crude, foul-mouthed, and vulgar than the leftists!!!!!

J.

Interestingly, the median average between left and right blogs is pretty close in this sample (420 vs. 352), it's just a few very prolific sites on the left which skew the average. On the other hand, those sites are also the most popular. It would be interesting to create mean averages weighted by readership.

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It pains me to agree with Lee but Wizbang has been around a long time and has a few thousand post more than many who where "below" us.

Kos leads the way but then they have the most pages.

Really I suspect when done properly the data will not change much but it obvious the methodology is flawed.

Since the data are raw counts, Lee's explanation could have merit, although he presents no evidence that it does.

What we need to see are the ratios of naughty words to total words.

I doubt the liberal blogs have 18 times as many words posted, so I doubt the new data would make the difference wash out. But it might. There should also be an adjustment for whether profanity is allowed in blog comments.

It would make sense that in order to make and accurate comparison between left and right, you'd have to take the same period of time for all blogs and establish a ration between number of curses and number of commenters.

Any way you look at it, however, Kos is going to "win" (if you can call it that) -- do the "phone book" test in their comment threads. Just close your eyes and point. Odds are pretty damn good you'll find a four letter word.

Sorry if I embarrassed you Jay - did you forget your oatmeal this morning?

Oh, no -- Lee's being suppressed! Help, help, come and see the violence inherent in the system! The Man is keeping Lee from forming his own analysis and showing that the right-wingers are, in reality, far more crude, foul-mouthed, and vulgar than the leftists!!!!!

What I said was "The left-leaning blogs are many times more popular than the blogs on the right, which explains some of the higher counts."

I guess I should have added poor reading comprehension skills to the reasons the right got it wrong again. Thanks for demonstrating, Jay.

Byron: "Lee's explanation could have merit, although he presents no evidence that it does."

Before I posted my comment I did a quick check here. I was curious to see if my comment would be debated thoughtfully, or just attacked by some troll. Jay the troll won. The link compares the traffic stats of 2 left blogs and 2 right blogs.

Feel free to plug in sites of your own choice and compare the results. I haven't spent any time really analyzing the question -- but the 2 minutes I did spend were obviously more than the 119 seconds Jay spent on the question...

Think of it as more of a challenge, Lee. I didn't disagree with your theory, just was curious if you were invested in it enough to back it up.

I, quite frankly, don't consider the matter worth more than some giggles -- as well as affirming my own gut hunch. There are some right-wingers who toss off profanities pretty freely (Laurence Simon and Emperor Misha come to mind), but none with the high profile of the big leftists.

J.

There are some rather large problems with trying to answer this challenge. Several have already been listed above, but I haven't seen this addressed: What about all the deliberate obfuscation of many of the 7 words (e.g. f*ck, sh&*, etc.). This happens alot and I don't think its been accounted for.

Also, I would bet money that if you could do this same analysis with the ability to exclude the leftist trolls from the comments of the righty blogs, the righty blogs (all of them) would be significantly lower than they show now! In other words, I'm saying that here, for instance, the lefty trolls are responsible for the majority of the profanity that's used here.

I almost fainted when I read this. Now you righties DO believe in "polls"!! I can't stand it....I just can't stand it. You were against polls before you were for them?

Jay you never ever fail to......**** **

Shiek: I second that, now kiss my ass mother******.

hugh, you never fail to be an idiot. Thanks for not disappointing.

If you can't see the difference between statistical analysis of past, objectively verifiable written words and asking people their opinion on some current topic, then you just may be even more stupid than you appear to be in most of your comments.

"The left-leaning blogs are many times more popular than the blogs on the right, which explains some of the higher counts."

That's one way to try and spin away from the obvious truth that people who have limited intelligence and thus limited vocabularies tend to resort to vulgarity more often as they lack a better way to express themselves. Of course you must have limited intelligence to have a leftist/socialist/regressive worldview so of course the leftist sites have 41 times the vulgarity of the right leaning sites.

And that disparity would be much, much greater (probably 500 to 1 or so) if the right-leaning sites did not allow comments from the other side, as is common on the leftist sites.

Well, (Carlin1). I managed to (Carlin2) off Lee. go (Carlin3) yourself, Lee, you (Carlin4)rag (Carlin5). Why don't you start your own (Carlin6) blog? I bet it'll go (Carlin7)-up inside a month.

J.

(The preceding comment is presented as an exercise in using Carlin's "Seven Words," in order, in proper context, in a single paragraph.)

Hugh, stick around for another 17 minutes for even MORE about polls... and yeah, this is NOT about polls, but statistical analysis, and it's purely for entertainment value. So there.

J.

Jay,

That was (Carlin6)ing funny!

Lee: Traffic stats make your explanation more plausible, but they don't answer the question any more than raw counts of bad words.

We need to compare the ratio of bad words to total words for a reasonable sample of liberal vs. conservative blogs. Number of pages posted might be a good approximation for total words.

It would also be interesting to see separate ratios for blog postings and blog comments. The overall ratio might be mostly a just reflection of blog policies about profanity in the comments. The focus might better be on the kind of language used by the people who put up the original posts.

Sheik:

I"m afraid you don't either nor, more sadly, do you have an ounce of a sense of humor. That's an asset I find sorely lacking in you folks. I was wondering which of you would be first to pop a vein, turn beet red and just have to comeback at me. You win, errr I mean lose.

It was a JOKE Sheik!! A little satire. Ahhhh, what's the ******** use.

All he needs to do is post the number of pages under consideration. The huge numbers for Daily Kos and Huffington Post are clearly due to the fact that they have much larger sites with way more bloggers than anything else on the list. When he says he "even gave the Lefty blogs a 4 blog advantage," its bullshit since those two sites count for dozens if not hundreds of times more content than a Michelle Malkin or an Instapundit.

Give us the total pages and we can do a "naughty words per page" analysis and get a better look. Even better would be the number of words, as suggested above. Then you could say that liberal bloggers use one of Carlin's seven words every 50 words as opposed to conservative bloggers' every 200 words, or something. What would be even more interesting is the number of words actually written by the blogger, eliminating block quotes, especially from news sources, which almost never use any of those words. Instapundit might not swear much, but he doesn't write much either.

After a cursory look, I think we can easily assume that Wonkette is the most foul-mouthed of the high-traffic bloggers.

Ooops;

Jay now I have to have a run off between you and Sheik to see who is more humorless and who pops more veins. Geeez man get a life.

Forgot a couple things:

Now will come the inevitable name calling, attempts (probably by Jay) to rationalize and the usual lecture from the usual lecturers.

There are some right-wingers who toss off profanities pretty freely (Laurence Simon and Emperor Misha come to mind), but none with the high profile of the big leftists.

You did notice Ace on that list, didn't you? His site is dirtier than Pandagon and Shakespeare's Sister (by this calculus), though I doubt he's going to be asked to join Romney's campaign. ;)

Hugh,

As soon as you post something funny, I'll gladly laugh at it.

Here's a clue: If you are the only one laughing, it probably wasn't funny.

See, Jay's comeback to Lee was frigging hilarious!

Your posts...not so much.

See, the FIRST lecture. You're so damn (does that count as a bad word?) predictable, ShakeYour Ass.

So triple posting is supposed to be funny?

Telling me to re-read an unfunny comment is supposed to make it funny?

At this point all I can do is laugh....at you.

I suspect that Hugh's triple-posting was an accident (one that's happened to me more than once) and the fault of a glitch on our page, not his. Accordingly, I'm deleting two of them.

J.

OK, strike the first part of my last comment.

The rest stands.

How's that New Years resolution coming along, Hugh? What was it again?

I will only engage in debate from now on. I will not call any one name(s), nor will I be sarcastic or caustic. I will defend my beliefs always. I will not respond to those, on either side, who want to hurl invectives at one another.

Oh yeah. Good one.

Sheik, Hugh and his ilk fall back on the "it's satire", or "I was joking," after they make a very offensive insult. Lefties, except for rare occasions do not know how to find humor in things. ww

Byron: "We need to compare the ratio of bad words to total words for a reasonable sample of liberal vs. conservative blogs. Number of pages posted might be a good approximation for total words."

True. Another analysis, that would be next to impossible, is to look at the political affiliation of the commenters. If I post a bleeping F-word on Wizbang it counts against a right-wing blog, even though I'm a leftie.