I have been reading transcripts from The View lately

You have some problems.

It is hard to resist reading them because Newsbusters always puts them up with some funny picture from the episode.

It is troubling that ABC insists on giving this person a forum. It would be comforting to think that we could correct the situation by voting with our feet but, speaking as one who has never watched the program, I am not optimistic. It takes a very small fraction of the American public to produce acceptable ratings for a daytime network show, and a small fraction of the American public will always be attracted to a suitably staged freak show. If pressure is to be brought, it must be brought on the sponors and the responsible ABC eecutives who allow this nonsense to go on. Bought any Disney stock lately?

Ever noticed that when Rosie blurts out something she has no knowledge of she doesn't allow anyone to make comments on her Blog?

Hey Rosie can't take a little heat from some true knowledgeable sources?

NBC has MSNBC to spew their liberal views every night. ABC dosen't have another network, ergo The View hired Rosie so she could air the rantings of the radial leftwing liberal dems and keep Barbara Walters all nice and professional....

I try never to watch the View. This morning I turned on the TV and went into the kitchen thinking it was tuned to FNC. I heard Rosie's rant and went back to watch. She was saying it with so much hatred. Joy Behar was also sounding like a nut wondering about what it takes to impeach a President. Why do people even watch that show? It was ugly and hateful.

Lately, I've been watching the show to get the latest as it falls out of her mouth. I guess I have too much time on my hands.

Enjoyed the post, Lorie. See ya Sunday night!

Bah Bah Wawa is a clueless has-been.

Note: Rosie O'Donnell is not a journalist, and is not a political scientist. She is not, in fact, required to be either accurate, informed, or even remotely on point.

She is a comedian, and an entertainer. She makes money when she either creates a stir, or gets people to care about what she says.

People, whether entertainers with pulpits, or average joes, can say what they want. We all have the choice of agreeing or disagreeing.

With folks like Rosie, and others from all sides of the political spectrum who use similar kinds of less-than-informed rhetoric, I tend to turn the TV off.

From the clips I have seen she is in deep BDS. I did notice something interesting. Rosie was saying something to the effect, that the American Press brainwashes us and most Americans do not know what is going on because of this so-called fact. She declared that SHE does know what is REALLY going on because she reads/views the press outside the US. She told the audience/viewers that they too should go to the press outside the US so they too can know what BAD things our Government is doing.

I had to laugh because this is the same exact argument Janeane Godawfulho makes (last I saw her on TV). They both seem to think THEY are the only ones that access these venues. In reality they take these news sources as gospel and don't know enough to assemble the full story from an array of sources.

I don't really think that many of THE VIEW's viewers agree with Rosie either. However her screwy controversial outbursts do drive good ratings for the entertaiment show. And ratings drive advertising rates, so ABC is happy with the current outcome so far.

filthy centrist:

Note: Rosie O'Donnell is not a journalist, and is not a political scientist. She is not, in fact, required to be either accurate, informed, or even remotely on point.

She also has the right to be "apprenticed, benighted, bird-brained, blind to*, cretinous, dense, illiterate, imbecilic, inexperienced, innocent, insensible, mindless, misinformed, moronic, naive, nescient, oblivious, obtuse, sappy, shallow, thick, unaware, unconscious, unconversant, uncultivated, uncultured, uneducated, unenlightened, uninformed, uninitiated, unintellectual, unknowledgeable, unlearned, unlettered, unmindful, unread, unschooled, unsuspecting, untaught, untrained, unwitting and finally witless.

And she does a damn fine job of it!

Case in point: Claiming a substance (steel) born in a molten state "for the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible."

You're off a letter, She's inane.
Suffering from DTM
Diarrhea of The Mouth

So far on Fox has carried anything about Rosie - so where is it going? It's sad to say this but most people that watch this sort of dribble on TV do so because they are one brick less than fully-thinking idiots. There is no talk show that I will watch. So it's up to all of you - turn off that stupid show, go to the library and read a classic.

Rosie O'Donnell: Giving ugly, fat, stupid, gay midgets everywhere a bad name...

I cannot care less about Rosie. She is so obviously mentally imploding. An intervention from her friends would be a great step. Barbara Walters is the real villan here. She lost any and all credibility with me when she just sits there and knows what Rosie is saying is not true, but she wants the money. She became a media whore and hung up her journalistic hat. I will not tune in to Barbara again. ww

It's funny. Boob Tube material keeps everybody on-topic here! More Cheetos, anyone?

nikkolae typed: "midgets"

The correct term is Jumbo Dwarf(tm).

Ex: Hillary, too, is a jumbo dwarf.

Rosie and Hillary are jumbo dwarves.

It's relevant cliche time!

Rosie is entitled to her own opinions.

Rosie is not entitled to her own facts.

I'm suspicious of the Bush administration myself. I think Cheney's Darth Vader, and I strongly suspect Karl Rove is a Cylon.

Seriously, though, there are some pointed, legitimate criticisms to level at this administration, and somebody like Rosie O'Donnell doesn't help matters by running off her mouth.

--|PW|--

And I think bryanDirtbag is Howard Dean in drag.

How many of Rosie's critics here worship at the altar of "El Rushbo", America's Truth Detector, or tune in to Sean "Great American" Hannity for their nightly dose of partisan hacking, pseudo-journalistic swill?

What's the difference, really, between Rosie and these and other buffoons on the right? What are their credentials? Drug abusing, divorce-happy Limbaugh on his moral high horse? What a joke, but he's laughing all the way to the bank. And what about that beacon of truth, Hannity? His radio and TV shows are nothing but pure partisan lockstepping anti-Democrat bile, weaving half truths and bully-boy sanctimony into a mockery of journalism. Selective moral outrage anyone?

For Sean, Rush and all of their brown-shirted faithful though, it's all good because Rosie's just a (insert personal slurs here) whose opinions are mocked and ridiculed. There's really very little difference between Rosie's rants and the "opinions" spewing from the high priests of the church of conservative righteousness. They're all where they are for one reason: they generate ratings, which translates into money for someone up the food chain. The minute their schtick fails to sell, bye-bye.

groucho = f'ing idiot

PW:

Seriously, though, there are some pointed, legitimate criticisms to level at this administration, and somebody like Rosie O'Donnell doesn't help matters by running off her mouth.

Agreed.

I also basically agree with what "groucho" is saying above, namely that the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity aren't too far away from being in the same camp as Rosie O'Donnell--at least in my opinion.

It's a mstter of degree, not kind.

I would, of course, put Michael Moore and Al Franken into the same category as well.

While Rosie is a comedian with little political experience, Moore Hannity, Limbaugh, and Franken are all entertainers who have created politically-based schticks, and who have loyal followings. But they don't really investigate or report; they basically say what their viewers want to hear, in an often sarcastic and caustic way.

But it's all aimed at making money and entertaining certain audiences. Of course, Conservatives have no problem with Rush and Sean, for the most part, because those two generally toe the party line and spend a good deal of time bashing the "evil" liberals. The same is true for Moore and Franken, of course. They just go around bashing conservativs and spouting liberal rhetoric, all to entertain and make money.

I guess it's pretty important for us all to be critical and discerning when it comes to the information we receive, especially when it's difficult, at times, to tell the difference between an actual news show and one that's more propaganda and entertainment.

This is why I think someday we should have a media studies/analysis class in high schools, where kids are taught different ways of analyzing all of the information that they are inundated with. Teach them all the tricks and tactics of different media sources, so that they can better understand news, commercials, and political rhetoric. That's what I think...

At least Rosie O'Donnell is pretty easy to see through.

There is a huge difference between a POLITCAL COMMENTATOR spouting off on (surprise!) politics (with a chuckle in their voice) and a marginal COMEDIENNE lecturing the world with vitiole and hatred.

One has the goal of making their country better even when it include bashing/mocking the side with whom it most agrees and the other has the goal of making more gullible lemmings hate their country.

One is HONEST about the agenda of their profession, one is a LIAR, purporting to be one thing (a commedienne) then sanctimoniously spouting off on another.

Both are entitled to their opinions.

Both are gleefully going to the bank on a regular basis, but one goes more honestly than the vitriolic America hating bitch.

Syllabucks...

There is a huge difference between a POLITCAL COMMENTATOR spouting off on (surprise!) politics (with a chuckle in their voice) and a marginal COMEDIENNE lecturing the world with vitiole and hatred.

I don't see much of a difference in many cases. Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore are very much entertainers who focus on politics, IMO.

One has the goal of making their country better even when it include bashing/mocking the side with whom it most agrees and the other has the goal of making more gullible lemmings hate their country.

So you're arguing that Michael Moore, the political commentator, has the goal of making the country better? And the same goes for Rush I assume?

One is HONEST about the agenda of their profession, one is a LIAR, purporting to be one thing (a commedienne) then sanctimoniously spouting off on another.

Ah, I see. You feel that Rush, Hannity, Michael Moore, and Al Franken are more "honest" because they tell you up front that there shows are about politics. I am still pretty wary about the information that they provide, and the motives behind the information. I don't find them any more trustworthy because they present themselves as political commentators. It's a lot of packaging if you ask me, and something that we all need to be aware of.

ratings,ratings,ratings,ratings

it`s the `merican way

ryan,
It's covered in speech classes in high school - various propaganda techniques and examples. You can also take Critical Thinking classes (logic & analysis not the PC-based ones). If grouchy had taken such classes he would realize the fallacies of his "logic" in his posting. But I am sure he doesn't care...

When people CHOOSE to tune in to Limbaugh, Hannity, Franken or Moore, they EXPECT to hear political commentary.

When people CHOOSE The View, or CHOOSE Rosie on a comedy show, they CHOOSE to be ENTERTAINED, not be on the receiving end of inappropriate screeds lectured by the politically and historically inept with a hate-America agenda.

bryanD,

Jumbo dwarf. That's priceless....thanks for the laugh.

I think the fat cunt knows she is about to be fired or perhaps she plans on quiting. The primary reason for her "controversial" comments is so that when she is fired she can claim that she is being censored by big media. She is a fat cunt.

I think it's fair to say that anyone who CHOOSES Rosie knows what they're in for. Her reputation as a brash, outspoken and controversial is pretty well known at this point.

The political commentary of Limbaugh and Hannity is personal vitriol cloaked in bogus professionalism. It's opinion masquerading as fact lapped up by those who have checked their critical thinking cards at the door. Theirs is the real anti-American agenda; calling dissent treason and ridiculing those who are not afraid to criticize what they see as wrong, instead they cheerlead for those who would goose-step this country backwards into third world status.

"...inappropriate screeds lectured by the politically and historically inept..."

You do realize that this could apply to MANY people, on all sides of the political spectrum, who are considered pundits, right?

And I would argue that many people who tune in to Hannity, Rush, or Michael Moore are indeed seeking to be entertained as much as they are seeking to be informed. That's how it looks to me.

I'd go as far as arguing that people who buy the idea that they are getting "news" from the likes of Hannity and Moore are simply buying into the packaging and presentation more than anything. Sure it's news in a sense, but a lot of it is unabashed political propaganda as well. Very polemic and one-sided.

Why would anyone even bother to listen to Rosie? She's a marginal comedianne and a totally inept and inane (even perhaps insane) "political" commentator. The View is supposed to be entertainment; Rosie is pushing a political theme; and ABC is gong along with it. What does that say about ABC? All bottom line -- her tripe attracts viewer$ apparently, and viewer$ are what these low-end daytime shows are starving for.

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Rosey has clearly gone off the deep end. Of course she has the right to express her opinion, but she also has a responsibility to get her facts straight and ABC has a responsibility to exercise some control over their programming. Rosey clearly hates America and she is bitter and nasty to the core. She needs help badly. In the meantime, I am putting a block on all ABC shows - which is my right - and will not watch anything ABC broadcasts until they get rid of Rosey. What I find sad is that there are actually people so ignorant that they actually believe the trash spewed from Rosey's fat mouth.

OK let me get this straight. Rosie says a team of explosives experts got access to the WTC without security, building engineers, or maintenance knowing what they were up to. Planted explosives that worked flawlessly. Then after the plan worked (perfectly I might add), nobody has leaked one bit of information, even though everyone is talking about it.

And she says Bush is dumb?
Hell he sounds like a mad genius