Obama White House Stokes The Fire

Mitch Stewart, the point man for President Obama’s Organizing for America, asked me to visit my local congressman as part of a new initiative called Office Visits for Health Reform. Here is the email I received:

Hugh –

All throughout August, our members of Congress are back in town. Insurance companies and partisan attack groups are stirring up fear with false rumors about the President’s plan, and it’s extremely important that folks like you speak up now.

So we’ve cooked up an easy, powerful way for you to make a big impression: Office Visits for Health Reform.

All this week, OFA members like you will be stopping by local congressional offices to show our support for insurance reform. You can have a quick conversation with the local staff, tell your personal story, or even just drop off a customized flyer and say that reform matters to you

As you’ve probably seen in the news, special interest attack groups are stirring up partisan mobs with lies about health reform, and it’s getting ugly. Across the country, members of Congress who support reform are being shouted down, physically assaulted, hung in effigy, and receiving death threats. We can’t let extremists hijack this debate, or confuse Congress about where the people stand……

Thank you for going the extra mile when it matters the most,

Mitch

Mitch Stewart
Director
Organizing for America

Mitch was kind enough to include a link that will help me organize the “quick conversation with the local staff”.

As the Left bemoans the terror visited upon Congress by constituents that merely ask if they are actually reading the proposed legislation, it is organizing an opposition to show up at Republican and Blue Dog Democrat offices directly from the White House. I’m left to ask if Barrack Obama and Liberal Democrats know what kind of fire they are playing with by employing these tactics. Bruce at Maggie’s Farm has some comments on the welling anger among not just those on the right but moderates as well. When a President tells a large constituency to shut up he invites a riposte of like kind, to put it kindly. To tell them to shut up in the same week that Congress ordered up $500 million dollars worth of luxury private jets for their own use is to display a public/private disconnect of astounding proportions.

The last time I saw the level of anger that permeates today’s political discourse was when I was standing in gas lines in 1979.

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Posted by on August 9, 2009.
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  • GarandFan

    Thanks for the link, Hugh, I just sent the email and link to flag@whitehouse.gov. Those folks are interested in anyone passing out mis-information. I like doing my part for America.

  • iwogisdead

    I like doing my part for America.

    Don’t leave your house without bail money in your pocket.

  • Gmac

    Yep, I’m witnessing something here on a magnitude I’ve never witnessed previously.

    I was a political neophyte in ’79 @ 24 but I was able to recognize Carter had pissed away any chance of re-election even in the South because of voter anger at his policies and outright stupidity.

    Anger at the Democrat party and Obama in particular is white hot and only increasing with each addition misstep. Their total disconnect to what is happening to the general populace is astounding as they continue to pad their jobs with additional benefits and luxuries, not to mention their political junkets on ‘fact finding’ trips to exotic locals which are so obviously nothing more that trips to exotic locations.

    Their nanny state policies, do it our way or the highway bill creation attitude, giving BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars to their Wall Street supporters and union pals, seizure of private manufacturing, banking and setting union thugs weapons free on people that disagree with their policies has inflamed the populace.

    This is only going to end badly for everyone if it continues to devolve.

  • Stan25

    What is happening to the Dems in Congress and Obama has its parallels in history. The ancient Chinese also rebelled against the extravagance of their leaders too. Only they were very violent. We are different here, we have the voting booth and hopefully, there will be enough people that still remember what the Dems are now doing to the American people. Also time to root out the large money people like George Soros and his ilk. They are the ones that are doing the major funding of the stuff that the Dems are trying to ram through.

  • epador

    THis is getting very scary.

  • JLawson

    Epador -

    It is, isn’t it? They’re not wanting to listen to the people on this – they’re simply wanting agreement. And they’ll force that agreement, if need be.

    It could get real ugly, real fast.

  • bnorm

    I hate to even think it, but if things don’t turn around, could this be brewing of a second civil war?

  • GarandFan

    Depends on how desperately Nancy, Harry and Barry want to exercise and hold onto power. The ball is in their court.

  • JLawson

    bnorm -

    Um… Civil war? Not so much, I think. The left is VERY vocal, and has used the media to inflate their prestige and influence beyond all rational bounds – but the number of committed hard-core leftists isn’t all that large compared to the rest of the population. Think of tree frogs, with voices all out of proportion to their size.

    When push comes to shove, I don’t think the likes of Pelosi, Reid and Kos would be willing to die to implement their belief system, and without their ‘leadership’, there’s not going to be many people willing to form up and march on their neighbors to subjugate them to ‘help’ from the government.

    No, I think they’re much more interested in getting us to hang ourselves voluntarily, rather than dirty their hands themselves with a rope.

    There could be riots, of course – but if there’s a couple more union beatings I think it’s going to be the leftist thugs running from angry mobs of people wanting them to keep their grubby hands off what they see as working, and not willing to give up even MORE of their tax dollars to fund the perpetual pie-in-the-sky spending Obama’s been doing.

    So ‘civil war’ as in the 1860s? I don’t think it’ll go that way.

  • hyperbolist

    Civil War–hahaha. Yeah, the looney-tunes protesters are going to take on the federal government, which happens to have at its disposal the entirety of the Armed Forces–which answer to Barack Obama, their President and Commander-in-Chief. Oh noez!!! Checkmated by the illegitimate foreign-born Muslim/Communist President!

    You might think that Rush Limbaugh et al might exert some sort of mind control over the troops and get them to disobey their C-in-C in the name of ‘liberty’ or whatever, but it will take a great deal more than the fevered words of a few paranoid, delusional wingnuts to convince people to commit treason in the name of the health insurance industry.

    Nice thought, though, bnorm.

  • JLawson

    Uh, Hyper?

    I wouldn’t be so quick to say that the military’s going to automatically side w/Obama.

    Here’s the Oath of Enlistment.

    I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

    There is also no tradition of unquestioning obedience – if the President told one of the guards on Marine One to randomly fire into a crowd of civilians, it wouldn’t happen. If the Joint Chiefs of Staff were to decide that due to the Posse Comitatus Act they couldn’t play – then that’d be it. Now, Obama could have them relieved, but in our military (I don’t know about yours, perhaps things are different in Canada) the replacements would still be bound by the laws of the UCMJ and the Posse Comitatus act.

    Now, it’s theoretically possible for the JCS to give the finger to Obama for giving them illegal orders – in which case he could be removed. But then we’d have Pres. Biden… which might not be so bad, come to think of it.

    Besides – any civil war wouldn’t last long anyway. The left is pathologically unprepared for any sort of armed conflict.

  • MikeNC

    I certainly hope that Obama is a one termer like Carter, however this group is also trying to use the census to gerrymander things their way. This needs to be protested loudly, vehemently, and often.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204908604574332950796281832.html

  • hyperbolist

    JL, that’s some batshit-crazy talk right there. Do you think that a bunch of “Tea Party” protesters starting a Civil War would not be put down with force? And do you think that the military would side with them because they think Obama’s tax plan and health care policies are unconstitutional?

    A militia that tried to start a war of secession–or to overthrow the government–because they don’t like liberal policies, and are too stupid to get their own candidates elected, would be treated as terrorists because that is exactly what they would be. The world would watch with sheer pity as the National Guard steamrolled the Redneck Rebellion. Glenn Beck would piss his pants on television and apologize to Barack Obama for trying to convince people to commit treason.

    Anyway, it’s obviously complete and utter bullshit, but if these insane fantasies will help get you through to 2016 when Hillary Clinton becomes President, then so be it.

  • JLawson

    Hyper -

    I don’t often question your sanity, but what the hell are you on tonight? You seem to be spinning off wild crap that bears little resemblance to what’s being talked about.

    Here’s what I said in response to Bnorm –

    Um… Civil war? Not so much, I think. The left is VERY vocal, and has used the media to inflate their prestige and influence beyond all rational bounds – but the number of committed hard-core leftists isn’t all that large compared to the rest of the population. Think of tree frogs, with voices all out of proportion to their size.

    When push comes to shove, I don’t think the likes of Pelosi, Reid and Kos would be willing to die to implement their belief system, and without their ‘leadership’, there’s not going to be many people willing to form up and march on their neighbors to subjugate them to ‘help’ from the government.

    No, I think they’re much more interested in getting us to hang ourselves voluntarily, rather than dirty their hands themselves with a rope.

    There could be riots, of course – but if there’s a couple more union beatings I think it’s going to be the leftist thugs running from angry mobs of people wanting them to keep their grubby hands off what they see as working, and not willing to give up even MORE of their tax dollars to fund the perpetual pie-in-the-sky spending Obama’s been doing.

    So ‘civil war’ as in the 1860s? I don’t think it’ll go that way.

    I’m thinking the only one looking for a civil war is you – and I’m thinking you’re the one projecting your violent fantasies on others.

    Get some help, man – you’ve gone over the edge.

  • hyperbolist

    You stated that a liberal Democratic congress would not be able to pass liberal legislation because people would resist. I’m saying they wouldn’t, because that would be illegal. When “push comes to shove”, to use your phrase, the law is on the side of the liberal Democrats until at least the midterm elections.

    The paranoia is a bit alarming right now, but mostly pitiful and hilarious. However, if a few hundred people did decide to hole up in a compound and refuse to pay taxes, they would have to deal with armed government agents–police, and then soldiers.

    Granted, I am pretty tired and burnt out, so I’m not thinking very hard about this, but it seems to me that you think it could conceivably come down to angry protesters vs. union mobs, with the final outcome being the death of healthcare reform. The reality is, it would be angry citizens vs. the police.

  • http://jimtreacher.com Jim Treacher

    Granted, I am pretty tired and burnt out, so I’m not thinking very hard about this

    As opposed to what?

  • JLawson

    Hyper -

    “Granted, I am pretty tired and burnt out, so I’m not thinking very hard about this…”

    Sure doesn’t seem so from here, man.

    Look – I’ll be blunt. You’ve got no dog in this fight (so to speak, with you being Canadian and all) and I can’t see that the entertainment value you’re getting from being as contrary as you usually are is enough to offset what’s clearly raising your blood pressure and burning you out.

    You’re losing perspective, and it’s showing, and you’re losing credibility as a viewpoint that has good input. (Even if I don’t agree with you most of the time.) This ‘civil war’ crap – dude, you’re projecting like you’re getting wood at the very thought of it. “Insane fantasies” indeed – and you’re the one grabbing onto them with both hands. It’s pretty damn grotesque.

    Take a break for a couple of days, man – relax, clear your mind and such. This argument’s going to continue for a long time to come, you won’t miss anything.

  • hyperbolist

    Burnt out from working longer hours at work and sleeping poorly, not from sifting through blog comments looking for people to argue with (i.e. you) or make fun of (i.e. Zelsdorf).

    I don’t think someone as un-crazy as yourself would seriously talk about rising up against the government to fight ‘socialism’, but a lot of other people seem to enjoy making these noises, and right now it’s pitiful and hilarious, but eventually–when more and more legislators receive death threats, and when Glenn Beck continues to promote treasonous violence–it will become an issue, especially if the Dems do what they were elected to do and pass a healthcare bill with a public option.

  • JLawson

    “especially if the Dems do what they were elected to do and pass a healthcare bill with a public option.”

    No – they were elected on their PROPOSAL of it. If we don’t agree their details are good – then it’s our responsibility to speak up. And if our ‘betters’ tell us to STFU and sit down, they’re doing it THEIR way – at that point things get all too interesting.

    Remember – they got only about a third of potential voters, McCain got less than a third. That leaves an additional third that didn’t vote – but they’ve still got a voice and an opinion.

    Re the burnout – been there, done that – but take care of yourself, okay? Like I said – we may not agree on things much, but you’ve got stuff that makes me think, and (if you’ll forgive the comparison) you’re way more un-crazy than Vic or Rob. You’re usually looking for dialog and communication – they usually aren’t.

  • hyperbolist

    I agree 100% that an open and honest dialogue needs to take place. That involves not ramming through any legislation, but it also involves maintain civility at town hall events–and also explicitly denouncing those who would incite hatred and violence, be they Dick Armey’s stooges or SEIU goons.

    Speaking personally, I discovered some errors in tabulated data at the last minute on a few projects that forced some long nights recently. Of course it’s never the people who get paid by the hour that have to stick around late or work at home trying to finish a report, is it?

    Tonight, though, I’m off to meet up with some friends, eat pizza, and watch the Jays lose to the Yankees. I’ll be just fine, JL–thanks. :)