Hamas to Obama: Kiss my radical Islamic rear-end

Late last night, I covered Netanyahu’s reaction to Obama’s suggestion that Israel go back to pre-1967 borders.

Today, we find that Obama’s outreach to Middle East peace isn’t sitting well with those who might soon share power with the Palestinian Authority:

abu_zuhri_sami.jpgPresident Barack Obama’s Mideast policy speech Thursday was a “total failure,” Hamas said Thursday evening.

“The (Arab) nation does not need a lesson on democracy from Obama,” said Hamas spokesman in the Gaza Strip, Sami Abu-Zuhri. “Rather, Obama is the one who needs the lesson given his absolute endorsement of Israel’s crimes and his refusal to condemn Israel’s occupation.”

“We will not recognize the Israeli occupation under any circumstances,” the Hamas spokesman said, while adding: “We object to intervention in our internal affairs.”

Abu-Zuhri also urged the Palestinian Authority not to endorse the American president’s speech. He stressed the need to coordinate Palestinian positions in the face of what he referred to as “American-Israeli arrogance.”

Other Hamas sources said the president’s speech was “deceptive.”

Someone explain to me how in hell we can expect these bastards to come to the table and negotiate peace.

Or how Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas can forge an agreement with these cave dwellers in an attempt to unify the Palestinians.   Unbelievable. 

You have to be a utopian buffoon or a complete idiot to sit down with neanderthals and expect to seriously negotiate anything with them.

Or you’re someone who’s aligned yourself with those purposed in Israel’s destruction and the only differentiator is that you’re settling to destroy the Jews more slowly.

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  • James H

    The biggest hope was Prime Minister Salam Fayyad, but the new unity government is giving him the boot.

    Which really says something about the Palestinian political apparatus. Fayyad put forward ideas like a professional, non-corrupt security force and a strong infrastructure.

    Apparently, that’s too radical for the Palestinians.

  • irongrampa

    It’s astonishing that anyone could yet believe this disgusting charade is anything BUT that.

    There is NO desire for Palestinian statehood, that’s the “hook” to disguise the real agenda, the total elimination of Israel from this earth.

    Nothing will change until these terror organizations are eliminated–and THAT will only ensure Israel has a chance to survive amid the Arab world.

    “Peace Negotiations”?

    Hypocrisy. It’s whats for dinner.

  • Hank

    There is only one way to “negotiate” with hamas and the palestinians, and it does not involved words.

    Sure, we’d all like to believe otherwise, but to do so is folly.

    Don’t expect Obama to grasp this. Words are all he has.

  • Gladius

    My first thoughts are: God forbid this guy gets another term. There will be war on our soil as soon as he disarms us. This man is worse then Carter who was and is a useful tool but Obama is actively trying to do irrepairable damage to our country( purposful understatement). This is a guy who sat in a pew and listened to an anti semitic for 20 yrs… but then again I should be surprised !!!!!

  • Justrand

    irongrampa: “the real agenda, the total elimination of Israel from this earth.”

    Actually, the real agenda is the total elimination of JEWS from this earth.

  • Chico

    OK, you find an Israeli source that quotes some random nut with no power.

    The Arabs sell us oil. What do the Israelis do for the USA, except spy on us, take billions in aid, and embarrass us?

  • PBunyan

    The Palestinians who are complaining about Obama today are much like the far leftists who complained about Obamacare because it didn’t go far enough to creating a total communist healthcare system.

    Don’t worry Palestinians, just like Obamacare being merely the first step towards Obama’s ultimate goal of a completly Communist healthcare system, Obama’s speech yesterday was merely the first step towards his ulitmate goal of the complete and total annilation of the Jews. In other words Palestinians & the rest of the Muslim world: Obama’s on YOUR SIDE. He will “stand with” you.

  • Sep14

    You don’t reason with automatons that strap bombs to their bodies and leap into hell.

    Barry is submissive to the muslim world just like the UN is.

  • ryan a

    PBunyan,

    “Don’t worry Palestinians, just like Obamacare being merely the first step towards Obama’s ultimate goal of a completly Communist healthcare system, Obama’s speech yesterday was merely the first step towards his ulitmate goal of the complete and total annilation of the Jews.”

    Overstate your arguments much?

    When did Obama call for a “completely communist health care system”? I must have missed that announcement.

    Also, your assertion that Obama’s ultimate goal is the utter annihilation of the Jews is just insane. Sure, I can understand the fact that you disagree with his policies, etc, but making statements like that is just stupid. Hopefully you’re joking.

  • GarandFan

    Did anyone else catch the line:

    “As for security, every state has the right to self-defense, and Israel must be able to defend itself – by itself – against any threat.”

    Looks like Israel just got thrown under the bus.

    Yeah Chico – Palestine sells us loads of oil. And the Arabs spend BILLIONS in foreign aid on their Palestinian brothers – don’t they?

    PYHOOYA!

  • ryan a

    Sep14,

    “You don’t reason with automatons that strap bombs to their bodies and leap into hell.”

    So are you arguing that Hamas is composed of nothing more than suicide bombers, or Palestinians as a whole?

  • Gmac

    “You have to be a Utopian buffoon or a complete idiot to sit down with neanderthals and expect to seriously negotiate anything with them.”

    “I’ll take complete idiot for 1,000 Alex.”

    Now, even the ‘Palestinians’ are telling him to shove it.

    I have never witnessed a more complete sellout of an ally than what transgressed yesterday in the (P)residents speech. It seems that he and Hillery keep redefining diplomatic incompetence. Everything they touch turns bad, in this case, horribly.

    I’d love to have a video and a transcript of the private meeting scheduled between the (P)resident and Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. It is a certainty that it will not be cordial or pleasant.

  • Matt

    I believe we should fully support Hamas request to stop interfering in their internal affairs. Easy-peasy.

    No more aide, financial, medical, etc. Nada. If they want to be a state, they have to be able to support themselves, provide for their people etc.

    When Egypt, Syria or Joradan decides they would be better care takers of the Palestinian areas than Hamas, no interference. When Hamas pisses Israel off and Israel retaliates, no interference.

  • recovered liberal democrat

    I really don’t know why everyone is so surprised. Obamalala sat in a “church” that supported Hamas and called Israel’s self defense “terrorism”. He sat under Wright because he agreed with him not because he heard the true Gospel preached. What is angering people is his brazeness and his total tone deafness. I hope he keeps it up until 2012.

  • Sep14

    “I hope he keeps it up until 2012.”

    He will, along with the golf. Affirnative action taught him well.

  • Sep14

    “So are you arguing that Hamas is composed of nothing more than suicide bombers, or Palestinians as a whole?”

    Guess I will respond since you are polite.

    Hamas is a terrorist group. Hamas was elected/appointed/picked by the Philistinian’s. Hams uses homi-bombers to achieve political goals and exercise inner demons.

    Its called conspiracy to commit mass murders. So the answer is YES.

  • ryan a

    914,

    “Its called conspiracy to commit mass murders. So the answer is YES.”

    It was not a yes or no question. Let me rephrase: Do you think that all Palestinians are suicide bombing automatons?

    (this is a yes or no question)

  • http://jimbeach.net jim x

    Well, here’s the deal guys:

    1. Israel could be on the path to peace with Palestine, if it just stopped creating new “settlements” in the West Bank.

    2. What the Orwellian euphemism “settlement” means is, Israelis backed by the Israeli army going in and forcing Palestinians off land that the Palestinians OWN, at gunpoint. And shooting them if they don’t like it.

    3. Netanyahu is in the grip of extremists who love settlements – the exact same kind of extremists who assassinated Yitzak Rabin, the last Israeli Prime Minister to have Israel on a path to peace.

    4. Therefore, even if it makes Netanyahu unhappy and screech and flail his arms about the unfairness of being asked not to force Palestinians off of land they own fairly and legally at gunpoint, telling Netanyahu he’s wrong is the only rational direction towards justice and peace between Israel and Palestine.

    5. Watch what unfolds in the next few months – as the rest of the world besides the US sees Israel being irrational and unfair towards Palestine re: the settlements issue. As the settlements issue is the one thing truly barring peace between Israel and Palestine, as it is removed so peace will likely blossom – and once again, Obama will have done something that Bush wasn’t able to because Bush was hidebound by ideology over practicality.

    I don’t expect you all to agree with me. But if and when it does happen, just remember I said it here.

  • Sep14

    “You don’t reason with automatons that strap bombs to their bodies and leap into hell.”

    ryan-

    “It was not a yes or no question. Let me rephrase: Do you think that all Palestinians are suicide bombing automatons?”

    I do not see ‘Palestinian’ there? So you must be submersing yourself in nuance.

    Once again. Those who conspire to commit murder are just as guilty as those who actually pull the trigger, or in this case pin.

    If you want to rationalize something Ryan, try 911′s Gaza strip celebrations…Would you say they love or hate America? Yes or no?

    Bestest administration Evah!!!

  • http://wizbangblog.com/ Jay Tea

    It was not a yes or no question. Let me rephrase: Do you think that all Palestinians are suicide bombing automatons?

    It doesn’t take all of them. It just takes a dominant element. And it certainly is that — as noted, Hamas is the duly-elected, legal government of the Gaza Strip. So their policy of using “suicide bombing automatons” is the official policy of the Palestinian people in Gaza.

    Next question?

    J.

  • JLawson

    Let me rephrase: Do you think that all Palestinians are suicide bombing automatons?

    No. But so what?

    Say you’ve got 1000 peaceful Palestinians, and 2 bombers condoned and encouraged by Hamas. Due to a ‘peace process’, all Palestinians have free access to Israel. At least, for a while.

    1000 go exploring.

    2 go exploding.

    Israel reacts by closing their borders. And they’re the bad guys for doing so.

    Does it MATTER what we think if the end result is that people die?

    Frankly, I think that the Palestinian people are fucked by their own leadership – and they’ve got no way to avoid it. (Thought once Arafat died that they’d have a chance – not so much now…)

  • GarandFan

    The Palestinians voted for the government they’ve got. Let ‘em live with it. Until they erase “I’m stupid” from their foreheads, and “Kick Me” from their asses, they won’t progress at all.

  • WildWillie

    I believe the facts about the settlements were agreed upon by Bush, the palestinians and Israel. If palestinians stop attacking Israel and quit shooting rockets into their country, they would not build settlements. That lasted all of a week at the most.

    Rev. Wright preached for years about the evil jews and the “zionists”. Obamalama is just acting out his education. Nothing more or less. ww

  • ke_future

    jim x, you are mistaken. israel has stopped settlement building in the past. the palestinians increased terrorist attacks in response.

    i’d be interested in seeing any proof that israeli military is forcing people off their own land by gun point. i’ve seen some articles talking about palestinians squatting on land that had been purchased by isrealis and being ejected. i hope you can see the difference.

    btw, in my opinion, it’s the rest of the world being unfair to isreal. name one other country that has been subject to indiscrimate rocket and mortor attack on it’s civilian centers, and yet they are the ones subject to critism when they try to stop it.

  • ryan a

    So their policy of using “suicide bombing automatons” is the official policy of the Palestinian people in Gaza.

    Next question?

    Ok, great. So should we assume that there is a 1:1 correlation between the government and the will of all of the people? Personally, I don’t think such an assumption is all that useful. Yes, the leadership and a certain percentage of the people are behind this kind of BS. But all of them? Not likely. Now what?

  • http://wizbangblog.com/ Jay Tea

    ryan a, it’s up to the people to distance themselves from the actions of their legally elected government. The left was REAL good at it under Bush; perhaps they should show the Palestinians how it’s done?

    Until they demonstrate otherwise, I’m saying it’s their policy.

    J.

  • ryan a

    JLawson,

    “No. But so what?”

    Well, if there is going to be any sort of attempt to actually deal this someday it seems like this sort of thing matters.

    “Frankly, I think that the Palestinian people are fucked by their own leadership – and they’ve got no way to avoid it.”

    Ya, I agree. And it’s not really a new story that a government screws over its own people. Is there some way to avoid it? Well, if there are people who disagree, or have different ideas, or are pushing for alternatives maybe there is. That’s why lumping them all into one big group may not be all that useful.

  • ryan a

    JT,

    “ryan a, it’s up to the people to distance themselves from the actions of their legally elected government.”

    Sure, that makes sense. Do you think we have all the information we need to assess the factions that may or may not exist among Palestinians? Do you think that this distancing will always show up on Fox or CNN news? I’m not so sure we have the best picture of the situation, and I am not really all that keen on making big assumptions about what all Palestinians think and believe. A fairly uncomplicated point.

    “Until they demonstrate otherwise, I’m saying it’s their policy.”

    So…until someone proves otherwise, you are going to assume that things are the way you think they are? That’s one way to do it I guess.

    “The left was REAL good at it under Bush; perhaps they should show the Palestinians how it’s done?”

    Ya, maybe Noam Chomsky and Sarah Palin can host a “how to distance yourself from your elected govt” conference. And they can invite Michael Moore, Ann Coulter, and Ron Paul as expert speakers too.

  • http://wizbangblog.com Jay Tea

    ryan a, this is EXACTLY what Hamas said they’d do when they were running in the elections.

    They were elected by a commanding majority of the Palestinians in Gaza, and are doing precisely what they promised to do.

    Which, in a sense, makes them better — or, at least, more reliable — than Obama…

    J.

  • http://jimbeach.net jim x

    I believe the facts about the settlements were agreed upon by Bush, the palestinians and Israel.

    Yes – including a moratorium.

    Which the Israelis have continued to violate by creating more settlements. Which means they are violating the agreement.

  • http://jimbeach.net jim x

    jim x, you are mistaken. israel has stopped settlement building in the past. the palestinians increased terrorist attacks in response.

    Let’s say that it’s true the Palestinians, as a nation, increased terrorist attacks *in response*.

    Why does that justify creating new settlements?

    What does Israel mistreating more Palestinians who AREN’T terrorists, actually accomplish towards stopping Palestinians who ARE terrorists?

    Israel creating new Israeli-only “settlements” by kicking more innocent Palestinians at off of land their families have owned for years, makes absolutely no sense even as retribution. It is absolutely unjust, and not beneficial to Israel in any practical way – unless they really want people to sympathize with Palestinians.

  • ryan a

    JT,

    “They were elected by a commanding majority of the Palestinians in Gaza, and are doing precisely what they promised to do.”

    Ya, they were elected, and they are doing what they said they were doing to to (violence, etc). and I have no doubt that there are plenty of people who agree with their actions. Undoubtedly Hamas has plenty of political support. Still, I think it matters to pay attention to the cracks in that support, and to realize that the policies and politics of governments do not always tell us everything about the people who have to live under them (cases in point: Iraq under Hussein, Venezuela under Chavez, Iran for the last 30 years).

    “Which, in a sense, makes them better — or, at least, more reliable — than Obama…”

    Well, they are consistent, if nothing else. They sure as hell aren’t trying all that hard to solve any problems or avoid violence, that’s for sure.

  • http://wizbangblog.com Jay Tea

    ryan a, you are conflating tyrants for a group that was elected freely in honest elections.

    I didn’t vote for Obama. I probably won’t next time, either. But he’s still my president, and his UnWar on Libya is being done in my name, along with all other Americans. The “sorry, he’s not my president” is bullshit.

    And it’s bullshit there, too.

    J.

  • Sep14

    “Ya, they were elected, and they are doing what they said they were doing to to (violence, etc). and I have no doubt that there are plenty of people who agree with their actions.”

    Yeah, the ones who voted for them.. There’s your consensus that they all believe this is the acceptable course of action for their assimilated Syrian mini state.

  • Mo

    Hamas is NOT composed of only homicide bombers: They also have nice people who throw their Fatah brethren off tall buildings in Gaza (and will again, when the current arrangement breaks down). They have nice people who machine gun their opponents after kangaroo-court “trials”.

    Yep, you can find the videos of those things, though I don’t suggest watching. I didn’t sleep well afterwards.

    As to what Israel gives us, vs. the Palestinians….well, first the Arabs don’t sell us oil out of the goodness of their heart. They draw it out of the ground for a small amount and sell it for a much larger amount, and have grown enormously wealthy because of it. In the meantime, they take far greater amounts of foreign aid, in total, than is given Israel. Egypt, a cluster**Ck of an “ally”, was being given enormous amounts of money in aid, gave back NOTHING, unless you included Egyptian cotton sheets! No oil, no nothing.

    Israeli technology, on the other hand, gives us a tremendous amount. A lot of Internet technology was invented or is even made, in Israel. Israel has the highest per capita number of patents in the WORLD, including in such areas as biotechnology/medicine, agriculture and water treatment etc.

    The Palestinians, in the meantime, give…will give…nothing but hatred. In fact, if you would read up on it, you will find that the rest of the Arabs in the area DO NOT LIKE THE PALESTINIANS, though they are glad to use them as a tool against Israel, which they hate because it is not Muslim, and is a friend of the U.S. That’s why the Palestinians were refused citizenship or much else in Lebanon, Syria and especially Egypt, which kept them locked in Gaza.

    Jordan tolerated the Palis because many of the Jordanians were related. But the Lebanese kept the Palis stuck in south Lebanon, and to this day, the Syrians keep them in refugee camps. As Netanyahu told the sack-of=crap POTUS today, the Israelis successfully took in and absorbed about the same number of Jewish refugees that were exiled from Arab lands as Palestinian refugees that fled to other countries from Israel.

    The Arabs refused to do the same for the Palestinian refugees. Refused. Kept them in squalor and misery, but of course, blamed Israel, when the Arabs could have used the billions in oil money to give the Palis a decent life. Didn’t happen. The Saudis gave lip service but almost NOTHING to the Palis.

    Go learn something, instead of repeating the same old lies against Israel.

  • ryan a

    JT,

    “ryan a, you are conflating tyrants for a group that was elected freely in honest elections.”

    No, I am not confusing the two. Trust me, I get it: Hamas was elected and has plenty of political support. If you think I am somehow trying to rationalize their actions–or something like that–then you’re misreading me. All I am saying is that I have my doubts about how pervasive the support of Hamas is across all Palestinians. I do not think that all of them act and think exactly alike. To me, keeping this in mind matters. Dismiss it as “nuance” or whatever you want. If there is *any* possibility for change, it lies with the people who are not aligned with groups like Hamas. And considering their tactics, my wager is that there are plenty of disaffected folks out there.

    “And it’s bullshit there, too.”

    Standing by and allowing governments to commit acts of violence in your name is absolute bullshit–I totally agree with you there. And this applies in Gaza, Tel Aviv, the US, Iran, and everywhere else in the world. Here we agree, 100 percent.

  • http://www.freerepublic.us Brian_R_Allen

    …. Someone explain to me how in Hell we can expect these barbarian bastards to come to the table and negotiate peace ….

    Declare total war on them;

    Prosecute it, totally;

    Defeat them, totally;

    Order the survivors to the table;

    Dictate the terms of the consequential peace.

    Next?

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