“Tar Baby” Nonsense

If you have been following U.S. news reports, then you already know that Congressman Doug Lamborn accidentally put his foot in his mouth when he used the expression ”tar baby” in reference to President Obama.  Immediately after the congressman used the expression, he was accused of racism. Yet, the congressman did not intentionally say anything racist.

The Wikipedia entry “tar baby” states the following:

 In modern usage according to Random House, “tar baby” refers to any “sticky situation” that is only aggravated by additional contact.

So, originally the expression ”tar baby” simply referred to something very sticky, which is why Congressman Lamborn used the expression.

That is why U.S. Senator John Kerry used the expression ”tar baby” during a 2008 TV interview. He said the following:

 I think John [McCain] is trying to throw that big tar baby out there. You want to lose, you don’t want to win. Of course Barack Obama wants America to be successful.

In short, neither politician used the expression “tar baby” in reference to race, because race has nothing to do with the lesson of the Tar Baby story.

If you were to read the actual Tar Baby story, then you would discover that race is irrelevant to the story.  In the story tar is used to make the baby because tar is very sticky, not because it is black. The tar baby could be white as long as it is sticky enough to catch a rabbit.

One of Senator Kerry’s supporters understood this fact when he posted the following image on his blog:

People who accuse Congressman Lamborn of racism need to read the actual Tar Baby story in order to have a correct understanding of the story.

So, why don’t they read the story? Why did they immediately accuse Congressman Lamborn (but not Senator Kerry) of racism?

Here is the likely reason why.

During the early part of the 20th Century, a maker of bar soap decided to link the expression “tar baby” to African-Americans. Below is a photo of the soap that the soap maker sold:

What that soap maker did was wrong, but it made a lasting impression on people, and it added to the emotional scars of African-Americans.

That immoral use of the expression “tar baby” ended a long time ago, but elderly African-Americans have long memories, and they bear the emotional scars that past acts of racism left them with.

Is it fair that a modern-day congressman is being punished for the wrongdoing of someone who lived a century ago? No, of course not, but life isn’t fair.  It is common for the wrongdoing of one person to negatively affect people for several generations.  This fact is expressed in a statement that was first recorded several millenia ago:

The Lord is slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love, forgiving iniquity and transgression, but he will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, to the third and the fourth generation.*

Now, should Congressman Lamborn be forgiven for his unintentional error?

If you are a Christian, then the answer to that question is, “Of course he should be forgiven.”  In Matthew 6:14-15 Jesus says the following:

For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

If the teachings of Jesus are being taught in churches, then the people attending those churches should be willing to forgive Congressman Lamborn.

Meanwhile, it would be best for people not to use the expression “tar baby” unless they are discussing the story from which the expression came. Otherwise, they will end up in a sticky situation.

*Quote from Numbers 14:18.

Scripture quotations are from The Holy Bible, English Standard Version® (ESV®), copyright © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

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  • Anonymous

    Never heard of the soap connection.  I lived in North Carolina in the mid-50′s, having moved there from Pennsylvania (military brat – USMC).  I quickly heard all the regional depreciating remarks about “Negroes”, but never heard the expression “tar baby” applied as racial denigration.  And this was the time when Walt Disney was actively promoting the Uncle Remus stories.

    When we first arrived in Jacksonville, we were at a traffic light.  I saw a nearby coffee shop that had a sign across the front of the screen door.  It said “Whites only”.  I mentioned to my Dad that the civilians sure were strict about military uniforms (particular uniforms were only worn during certain times of the year).  My Dad asked what I was talking about, and I pointed out the sign saying “They won’t let the swabbies in unless they’re wearing their summer whites.”

    • Anonymous

      This was a RACIST remark. This show how some white folks in this country are still living back in the 20′s. He is the LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD!!!!!! On a recent news report a man from Ireland refer to him as such. KKK oh, excuse me I meant to say Tea Party people need to get a grip and some respect. Its obvious none of you were smart enough to become President. Now, you want to run my country in the ground because of your hatred for the color of a brilliant mans skin, and you call yourselves christian! Doug Lamborn WE DEMAND HIS RESIGNATION!!!!!!!!

      • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

        Wow.

        Project much, do you?

      • Anonymous

        RACE CARD!

        Weren’t you supposed to hold that back until the election?

        You know, ANYONE who disagrees with Barry and his policies is a RACIST!

        FWI, I also disagree with Pelosi and Reid – that also mean I’m a RACIST! according to YOUR logic.

      • Anonymous

        RACE CARD!

        Weren’t you supposed to hold that back until the election?

        You know, ANYONE who disagrees with Barry and his policies is a RACIST!

        FWI, I also disagree with Pelosi and Reid – that also mean I’m a RACIST! according to YOUR logic.

      • Anonymous

        RACE CARD!

        Weren’t you supposed to hold that back until the election?

        You know, ANYONE who disagrees with Barry and his policies is a RACIST!

        FWI, I also disagree with Pelosi and Reid – that also mean I’m a RACIST! according to YOUR logic.

      • Anonymous

        RACE CARD!

        Weren’t you supposed to hold that back until the election?

        You know, ANYONE who disagrees with Barry and his policies is a RACIST!

        FWI, I also disagree with Pelosi and Reid – that also mean I’m a RACIST! according to YOUR logic.

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        We’re sorry, but your race card has been declined.

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        We’re sorry, but your race card has been declined.

      • Anonymous

        If you live in his district you can run against him, otherwise you’re just another voice in the wilderness. Demanding something of someone will get you kicked to the curb in short order, around here it will get finger pointing and laughter.

      • Anonymous

        How do you feel about the left and the way they’ve treated Condi Rice, Michael Steel, Colin Powell, Justice Thomas and others. This is simply political if the African American agrees with your politics nothing can be said, if not then the sky’s the limit.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Lynch/100000254044464 Brian Lynch

        You are an IDIOT, and an obvious bigot yourself.

      • Anonymous

        And John Kerry, who said the exact same words, kets a pass why??

  • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

    This whole thing says a lot more about the left’s inability to respond to criticism without throwing the race card than it does about Congressman Lamborn.  It’s just the latest example of Graves law in action, and should be dealt with as such.

    • darkgable129

      You sound like a racist!  and an idiot! Oh people of color are just suppose to forget about this?  He didnt mean no harm, right?  No US President in the history of Presidents of the United States has ever had to put up with this overt racism and dis respect shown to President Obama.  There are still alot of racist out there who dont know that they are racist. And you are one of them

      • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

        Oh, wow.  Have you patented your racism detector?  Because it seems to me it’d be really a money-making thing, if you can get everyone you accuse of racism to send you a buck via paypal.

        You’re confusing indifference to color with racism.  Racism, by definition, is obsession with the color of someone else’s skin, or race, or heritage, or background.  In fact, Martin Luther King was looking toward the time when people would be judged by the content of their character instead of the color of their skin – and, presumably, by their actions and decisions when in power instead of their skin color.

        Obama could be fluorescent purple with Campbell Tartan stripes – and his actions and decisions would still be bad.  Sorry – but his race is irrelevant.

        • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

          Ayup.

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        You are welcome to take as much offense as you care to.  You are entitled to enjoy the side effects of that rage.

        Frankly, the opinion of someone who flings the race card with such abandon matter to me not at all.  You are in violation of Graves law and have forfeited whatever point you were trying to make here.

      • Anonymous

        Like I’ve said above are you outraged at the treatment of Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Justice Thomas, Michael Steel?

      • mdgiles

        So. Anyone who criticizes a black POTUS, for his incompetent performance in office is a “racist”. Tell me, are you actually that utterly stupid – or was you post some kind of a bad joke. What Obama has had to put up with is his own inexperience and partisan political ideology come home to roost. If he couldn’t handle the job, for whatever reason, maybe he shouldn’t have taken it. Did he think being the first black President was going to be a cake walk?

      • Anonymous

        I believe in respecting the office, the man has to earn the respect and so far he has not.

      • Anonymous

        I believe in respecting the office, the man has to earn the respect and so far he has not.

  • Anonymous

    Of course older African Americans are still scarred by racial terminology.  So many other (not African Americans) Americans are not familiar with the term ‘tar baby’, but if it offends one African American or 2,000 African Americans, it’s wrong.  It hurts and is offensive knowing the prejudice that African Americans have faced in this country for such a long period of time. Sensitivity to the feelings of ‘others’ means trying to understand what it is like to wear someone else’s shoes.  Do you really think the term ‘tar baby’ for  President Barack Obama, who  is viewed as an African American President, (not a Bi-racial president) is not going to be confused as racial?  Let’s talk about being sensitive to others.  Now Congressman Doug Lamborn wants someone to be senstitive to him.

    • Anonymous

      Where you as “outraged” when Joey Biden said of Obama “He’s clean, bright and articulate”?

      • michelle collins-robinson

        yes!

        • Anonymous

          So where is the call for Biden to resign?

          Or is the “outrage” selective?

          • Anonymous

            How about all the overt nasty racial terms applied to Micheal Steel, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, etal. This is pure politics, it’s become the club you beat political opponets with.

          • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

            And it’s getting pretty flimsy at this point, too.

      • Anonymous

        Or when John Kerry said pretty much the same words…

      • Anonymous

        Or when John Kerry said pretty much the same words…

    • Anonymous

      When are the Afro Americans who voted for Obama going to show some sensitivity to us who did not and apologise for the mess he is making of everything?

      ………….

      • michelle collins-robinson

        Remember President Obama did not win with only the Black vote; Americans voted for President Obama. I will never say that a person of non color should apologize for every President prior to President Obama. Because there have been a series of mistakes made by Democratic and Republican Presidents alike.

        I do not know your race but do you feel that you are responsible for every poor decision made by previous Presidents?

        • Anonymous

          I used Afro Americans because you stated they had taken the hit supposedly for his ( Lamborghinis) comment.

          Obama has done a far more damaging thing to the Country by leading from behind.

          So they should man up and admit affirmative action is a failure.

          • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

            I’ll disagree with that.  AA, as originally conceived, was a good idea.  The problem is… it’s a lot like those stilts drywall installers wear so they can tape and mud ceilings.  You use them for the job – then you take them off – or in the case of AA when it had served its purpose and leveled the field some, it should have been scaled back.

            But too many people figured if some is good, then a whole lot more will be better.  It doesn’t work with seasonings in cooking, it doesn’t work when you’re tightening bolts with a torque wrench, it doesn’t work in electrical work – there’s a whole lot of fields where too much is just plain destructive.

            And I think AA – as originally designed – worked.  Then they turned it to 11, and the whole thing went sour.

          • Anonymous

            I agree! Lets bump Barry’s rating up to a triple AAA .. Of course the Nation loses its triple A rating but, what’s good for Barry is what’s good for the golden goose gander.

          • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

            A AAA rating?  Affirmative Action Agitator/Activist?

            Come to think of it, he DID quit as a neighborhood activist, didn’t he?

            Getting too late here.  G’night, all!

          • mdgiles

            Reality check on AA, it is a government program. And like every other government program it soon took on a life separate from the ostensible purpose of the program in the first place. Bureaucrats and others support it, not be cause it accomplishes some purpose; but because it means a paycheck in the bank for someone.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            I must beg to differ.

            AA was from it’s outset a negative reaction.  When one takes into account the fruits of the policy, it has been poisonous.  Intentions don’t matter, outcome does.

          • darkgable129

            I suppose President Bush who ran up the deficit, depleted a surplus given to him, lead from the front.  President Obama is 100% the articulate man that Bush and yourself could ever strive to be.

          • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

            “President Obama is 100% the articulate man that Bush and yourself could ever strive to be.”

            He’s good with a teleprompter, I’ll give ‘em that.  He sucks badly at math, though.  And leadership.  And doesn’t seem to have a clue most of the time.

            Charisma can take you a long way in politics – but you need something solid underneath.  Obama’s all charisma – no room for anything else.

          • Anonymous

            “He sucks badly at math, though.  And leadership.”

            As a caveat I must add that Barry leads very well from behind!!  Just sayin’.

          • Anonymous

            I could Bury Barry in his double-speak and non sensical lackwitism if I cared enough to do so…  

            And I might add ‘blamin booosh’ is out of vogue.  Bush was handed 911!! Barry has been handed a 9 iron!

            Bush took many Mulligan’s during his presidency! Barry is making Mulligan stew out of the Constitution of the U S of A

          • mdgiles

            The “Surplus” was mostly due to  a GOP Congress riding herd on Clinton. Once the public had “gifted” Bush with a Democratic Congress, all bets are off. A Democratic Congress with a Democratic POTUS is double trouble, because they ran out of viable ideas during the Wilson administration, and they’ve been pretty much buying their way into office with taxpayer dollars every since.

          • Anonymous

            Oh yeah, Obama is really articulate unless he forgets his teleprompter, then of course it’s just uh ,uh, ,uh, yeah, well, I, uh, uh, uh, I, uh uh uh, what was the question?

        • Anonymous

          Yes, so did illegals, dead people and people voting in several different polling places.  This is why we need to make it manditory that you show ID before you are allowed to vote.  You have to show ID to write a check, see a doctor, buy alcohol or cigerettes and on any number of different occasions, if ppl have no problem showing ID to get beer, why is it a problem to show ID for something as serious and important as voting?

      • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

        Let me check the calendar…

        Monday’s out, Tuesday’s not good – Wednesday’s shot already, Thursday’s out… Friday… no, that won’t work and neither will Saturday or Sunday.

        And… that goes through the next few months.

        Oh, I don’t know when it’ll be possible.  How about never?  Does never work for you?

        • darkgable129

          Oh you forgot the part about Bush getting the country in this mess.  Oh yeah, remember the weapons of mass destruction?  There were none and Bush knew this before he sent the troops over to Iraq and got the US in this mess.  You forget about that huh?

          • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

            Yeah, that’s why all the intel services said there was a real good chance of WMDs.  Nice try, not shiny enough.  You really should pay attention to reality instead of talking points.  I know it’s more difficult, but in the end it’s much more educational.  

            Want to try the ‘Bush knew 9/11 was going to happen’ meme also?  It’s pretty worn out and discredited, but I think you can get a discount on it at the reject store.

          • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

            Google yellowcake Iraq and Canada and tell me how there was no nuke weapons program in Iraq …  you are an idiot …

          • mdgiles

            Come on. TONS of nuclear material don’t count when some left loon is in the midst of spouting talking points. Nothing worse the having a good rant ruined by an inconvenient reality.

          • mdgiles

            Here’s an idea; go back and actually read the AUMF. See how often it talks about actual WMD’s on hand as opposed to possible programs, and disregarding UN sanctions and aggreements. You see once you’ve actually learned something, then you can stopped mindlessly repeating Liberal talking points. BTW, on that Iraq thing, I believe the US had won – until Obozo took his eye off the ball and decided to double down on Afghanistan – with ridiculous ROE. I like his idea of death from the skies though, I’ll credit him on that one.

      • Anonymous

        What I find offensive are all of the Hyphenated terms; African-American; Mexican-American…
        Either you are an American or you are not.  If you MUST make sure everyone is aware of your ethnicity, what is wrong with American-African, American-Mexican or American of African descent or American of Mexican descent.The most Rabid Rascist I have ever seen happen to have dark skin.  There are parts of the town that I would be a fool to walk simply because of the color of my skin, having a white guy walk through the “Projects” depending on the time of day is tantamount to suicide because he WILL get jacked up and have his money stolen (if he is lucky)  yet the opposite is seldom true, you will not see a black guy get robbed or worse simply because he walked down a “White” street.  Racism will be a thing of the past ONLY when people stop deviding IAW a persons color, when we can get to the point where no one cares what color you are THAT is when rascism will end on all sides.

  • zykia_glover

    What Lamborn said was racist and should be dealt with now before it escalates and he can not come back from it. I myself have read the story “Tar Baby” and no it does not tie in with racism, but I have witnessed a few accounts of the phrase used in a racial way. 

    • Anonymous

      “Racist!” or a stupid comment?  Please enlighten us as to Lamborn’s other “Racist!” actions.

      • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

        Slightly inappropriate comment, as far as I’m concerned, but accurately descriptive.  It’s the race-baiting poverty pimps that really need this blown completely out of context in order to keep the masses pissed against the proper people.

    • darkgable129

      Every person of color and of age knows exactly what Lamborn meant!  He should resign.  He is not fit to serve the people in his district.

      • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

        Ever use your racism detector on a mirror?

        Did you have a hard time unwrapping the needle when the gauge pegged itself hard to the right?

      • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

        Ever use your racism detector on a mirror?

        Did you have a hard time unwrapping the needle when the gauge pegged itself hard to the right?

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        I’m sure the voters of his district will let us all know what they think of this matter in November of next year.

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        I’m sure the voters of his district will let us all know what they think of this matter in November of next year.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6NZ3CQNNLURNVUQYZSYT2UEV6I Joe

          I live in Lamborn’s district, I still plan on voting for him!

  • michelle collins-robinson

    As an African American I am appalled at the Congressman comment. As a Christian I do believe in forgiveness. Therefore, I must forgive any and all that ask for forgiveness. As an American I think that he should resign. His judgement can not be trusted.

    • Anonymous

      So you’re okay with John Kerry resigning as well?

      • michelle collins-robinson

        I am referring to the context in which the comment was made. Somethings like can say to like and others we should use sound judgement.

        • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

          In other words, you’ll give Kerry a pass.

        • Anonymous

          Huh?

          Liberal says it, no prob. Conserve says it, they must resign.  

          Same old democrat hypocratic oath. ‘Do as I say, not as they do.’

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  • michelle collins-robinson

    Liberal or Conservative we must always be cognizant of other’s feelings and history. God made us all as humans and he made our spirit in his image. To show him love we must love one another.

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      Oh, true… but not be obsessive about it.  People will always annoy others – it’s simply part of human nature.  ”To err is human, to forgive divine” as the saying goes.  

      There’s far too many people who willingly grab on to any possible pretext for offense, who somehow seem to think that the very fact of their existence means they’re never supposed to see or hear anything in any context that in any way might make them the least bit uncomfortable – and if they DO then they’ll come out with righteous anger to smite those who offended them. And if they can get lawyers involved and make some money off it, all the better!

      Yet they never seem to consider that offense is a two-way street.  ”Let he who is without sin among you cast the first stone”, as the saying goes.  There’s also something about stones and glass houses, but it’s getting late.

      Just be careful of the standards you demand – and ask yourself if you yourself could live up to them.

      • Anonymous

        Know if you do not stand for something you will fall for anything. Racism is racism this man Congressman Lamborn failed the American people with that comment. We will not stop until he resigns.

        • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

          Sounds like you already fell.  Hope you had padding.

          • Anonymous

            And still waiting on the demand for John Kerry to resign as well for using the same words…

          • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

             Yeah, like THAT’S ever gonna happen.

        • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

          We’re sorry, but after we ran it again your race card is still declined…

      • Anonymous

        Know if you do not stand for something you will fall for anything. Racism is racism this man Congressman Lamborn failed the American people with that comment. We will not stop until he resigns.

    • Anonymous

      Can’t love one another when each week Barry tells us who we should “hate” now.

      • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

        Didn’t they schedule in “Left-Handed Lithuanians” next week?  

    • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

      f*ck other peoples feelings …  you can’t know ever case of possible hurt feelings …  everytime someone uses the term teabagger do you demand an apology ?  If not then take your psycho babble somewhere else … 

      • Anonymous

        How about Cracker, no one seems to mind calling white people crackers do they?

  • darkgable129

    Who are the proper people U refer to?

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      People who know how to think and reason.  Who understand that 2+2 always equals 4.  That bills have to be paid, that nothing comes for ‘free’, that there’s loads of scam artists just itching to take your money, whether it’s on the street, through e-mails, or through political action.

      You know… adults.

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      People who know how to think and reason.  Who understand that 2+2 always equals 4.  That bills have to be paid, that nothing comes for ‘free’, that there’s loads of scam artists just itching to take your money, whether it’s on the street, through e-mails, or through political action.

      You know… adults.

  • Anonymous

    What are the libs throwing a ‘bust the bank kill America’ party on here tonight or has the audience grown?

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      Got someone weaving a lot of sock puppets, that’s for sure.  Whole lot of one-post wonders.

  • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

    Wow, someone’s sure blowing through the sock puppets tonight!

    Hey, don’t forget – make sure with each new one you go back and ‘like’ all your older comments.

  • http://twitter.com/mea7806 Marianne Arrington

    While I am both saddened and disappointed at the “tar baby” comment, I am more disappointed that someone who is a leader would show disrespect to the highest officer of our nation.  I, too, am a Christian and I certainly believe in forgiveness.  Since you’ve brought up Christianity, the Bible also requires us to lift people up and not tear them down.  Ever since President Obama has been in office, he has been publicly disrespected often.  I’ve been following politics for a very long time and I have NEVER seen a president get as much disrespect as he has received since he got in office.  Tell me what other president had a congress person shout out “You lie” during a televised speech?  Tell me what other president had a member of the Supreme Court express utter disdain on his face during a televised speech?  Tell me when a member of congress has publicly stated “we have to bring this president down” when it isn’t even an election year?  What is so different about this president that he is so hated?  When comments like these are made for this president and not for previous presidents and the only difference is the color of his skin, it makes it difficult to believe race is not a factor.

    When our highest official is treated disrespectfully by his own people, what does that say to the rest of the world?  That gives others carte blanche to do the same. 

    The author of this article may be correct that Congressman Lamborn did not intentionally mean to be offensive.  Quite honestly, I don’t know if he did or not.  However, as a public official, one must choose one’s words very carefully.  Remember the “lipstick on a pig” comments during the last presidential campaign?  Some people got upset because then Senator Obama used that rhetorical expression in a debate and they thought he was negatively referring to VP candidate Sarah Palin. 

    The author gave an explanation about the origin of term “tar baby.”  Yes, there was the soap with the term that was meant to be degrading, but the author fails to mention that black people many years ago would be tarred and feathered as a means of punishment and humiliation.  In addition to the author’s explanation, this was also another reason why the term is offensive to blacks – and not just the elderly of the black community.  Although they may have actually endured the pain and suffering of physical abuse for being black, don’t think for one minute that blacks don’t continue to encounter racism.  It’s just more covert now.  And I know this because I deal with it almost daily.

    We have got to do better with showing respect for our president. It’s okay to disagree with him and to even dislike him, but as a Christian, we are required to respect the position.

    “Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.  Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.” Roman 13:1-2 NKJ

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      “When our highest official is treated disrespectfully by his own people, what does that say to the rest of the world?  That gives others carte blanche to do the same.”

      Nice sentiment.  Tell me, did you call for the same ‘respect’ for Bush, or were you too busy running him down?

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      “When our highest official is treated disrespectfully by his own people, what does that say to the rest of the world?  That gives others carte blanche to do the same.”

      Nice sentiment.  Tell me, did you call for the same ‘respect’ for Bush, or were you too busy running him down?

    • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

      actually pointing out that Obama was caught in a sticky situation is hardly disrespectful …  or you and I have a very different definition …  (I’ll take mine )

    • Anonymous

      Are you also dissappointed that the vice president of the united states called his political opponets terrorist? If not you partisanship is showing

    • mdgiles

      “I am more disappointed that someone who is a leader would show disrespect to the highest officer of our nation. ”
      Oh stop, this is America. The last President to enjoy universal respect was Washington. Everyone since has had to put up with attacks.

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  • Anonymous

    And just what would you have done? How would you have save the car industry? Or brought health care reform? Every move this President does the KKK oh excuse me the tea party people block. You, know Bush ran the country in the ground and the tea party people wanna keep it going. You are not going to be satisfied until we are speaking chines!

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      (Card check.)

      Expired.  Declined. 

      • Anonymous

        Did you misdirect a comment at me?  Saw it in my inbox.

        • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

           Yes, my mistake on that one.  Sorry about that…

          • Anonymous

            No problem, man.  :)

      • djdrummond

        Over the limit, too.

    • Anonymous

      Like that KKK thing don’t you?  Maybe you haven’t gotten the DNC memo.  Tea Party people are now officially “terrorists”.

    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      Do you have some sort of problem with “chines”?  What is the nature of your problem with “chines”?

    • Anonymous

      What is ‘chines’?  

      Acorn secret code lingo?

      • djdrummond

        I think he means ‘Chinese’.  On behalf of my Asian wife, he is free to take a long walk at midight off a short pier for his own display of racism.

    • Anonymous

      So you can accuse people you disagree with members of the KKK and we’re to take no offense, is that not racist? How very sensitive of you.

  • Anonymous

    The left sure is niggardly with the English language.

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      You do know that changing your profile name doesn’t change the name associated with your picture, or your commenting history, right?

    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      Newspeak is that way…

  • Anonymous

    How many sock puppets does it take to get to the center of one direct question?

    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      Obviously a lot more than we’ve seen here so far.

  • Anonymous

    It’s sad when folklore innocent of any racism is reinterpreted to be racist. 

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      Makes you wonder at times whether things have progressed so far, gotten to such a state, that the race-baiters are reduced to sniping at inconsequential statements.

      What does it say about the real state of racism in the US? I think the vast majority of people simply don’t care any more about skin color. The only ones who obsess about it are those who see some perceived political advantage to doing so…

      • Anonymous

        The race-baiters are the biggest racists?

        • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

           Sure starting to look that way to me.  They’re so obsessed with looking for evidence of racism anywhere and everywhere that they’re practically a parody of themselves.

          “Black skirts on sale at Kohl’s? RAAAAACCCIIIIST!”

          “Black pants on sale at WalMart? RAAAAAACCCIST!”

          “Someone used ‘Niggardly’?  RAAAAAAACCCCIIIIIIISSSTTTTT!”

          “Man, did I ever have to drop a load…”  “RRRRAAAACCCCIIISSST!”
          “But I had the SuperCombo Burrito….” “RRRAAAACCCCCIIISSST!”
          “And a pile of nach…” “RAAAAAAACCCCIIIIIIISSSTTTTT!”
          “With gua…” “RAAAAAAACCCCIIIIIIISSSTTTTT!”
          “Will you let me fin…” “RAAAAAAACCCCIIIIIIISSSTTTTT!”
          “A fucking sent…” “RAAAAAAACCCCIIIIIIISSSTTTTT!”
          “Oh, bloody he…” RAAAAAAACCCCIIIIIIISSSTTTTT!”
          “I can’t tal…” “RAAAAAAACCCCIIIIIIISSSTTTTT!”
          “….”  “Racist?”
          “Can I…”  “RAAAAAAACCCCIIIIIIISSSTTTTT!”
          Turns and walks away… “RAAAAaaa … Uh, where ya going?  We were having a good dialog there!”

        • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

          That’s been self obvious for a decade or more at this point.

  • Anonymous

    It’s evident that the OFA, HuffPo et. al. zombies have been dispatched in an organized campaign against Lamborn with an even the score mentality vis a vis Wu , Wiener etc..
    Actually, it’s fascinating  to watch the leftard Pavlovian dogs respond to their masters’ clarion call to play ‘dunk the republican’.

  • Elliott Barcikowski

    The congressman’s okay, but it’s not non-sense.

    Put simply, this is a sensitive term and because of that you (we) shouldn’t use it.  It doesn’t matter if it has some other non-racist meaning.  If you really liked this phrase, sorry.  Blame the soap guys for ruining it for everyone.  Neither Lamborn or Kerry or anyone else should be using this.

    Certainly Lamborn meant nothing racist about this, however, to his credit, he apologized to directly to the President.  Good for him.  End of story.

    Elliott

  • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

    Eliot,

    You seem to be asserting that some or all of the people have a “right” to not be offended.  From what source does this “right” to not be offended arise?  How does it balance with the Right under the First Amendment to the Constitution to free speech?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brent-Lengel/12924449 Brent Lengel

    1) One does not have to be aware of racism, nor intend offense to make a racist statement.  If I unknowingly start throwing around the N word, having NO intention to offend and no idea the history behind it, It will STILL have the same effect on a listener as if I did have the intention to offend, and I STILL should be reprimanded for it.

    2) The tar baby was originally an African story about the trickster figure Ananasi.  Beyond that, it’s current connotation is massively racist, which is the whole reason why Disney’s Song of the South has been swept under the carpet. This is a racist term, deal with it.

    3) Freedom of speech protects us from GOVERNMENT intervention.  It does not insulate the Congressman from the just ridicule he is currently receiving, by having said such a hateful, horrible slur, it just means he won’t go to jail for saying it. I can still point out what an ignorant, bigoted asshole he is, and demand his dumb ass resign from office.  He is free to disagree with me, and I am free to call him a shitfucker.

    Don’t you love America?

    4) How dare you invoke your faith to shield an obvious racist from scrutiny.  Absolving a man of sins divinely has nothing to do with allowing at best a man so massively idiotic that his fitness to perform the job to which he has been elected is now called into question, and at worse using your faith as a shield to excuse the actions of a blatant bigot.

    You’d better hope your God isn’t real, because if he is, you’re going to be taking some flack for that one in the after life.

    5) Whether or not democrat’s attacked Kerry over his comments has nothing to do with this case.  Whether or not folks on the left are hypocrites IN NO WAY excuses the Congressman’s actions, and to bring up his use of Tar Baby (which, while inappropriate was said in a completely different context) serves only to distract from the Congressman’s inappropriate statement.

    6) ..I. .I.. Seriously.  Eat a dick, you small-minded, apologistic, bigoted, moron. In your lifetime you will see your values crumble, your political ideals erode, and your nation descend into “sin” and be better for it.  These days are the death throws of the Republican party, and folks like me will laugh and play our fiddles as ignorant throwbacks like you go the way of the dinosaurs.  Enjoy that.  I’m going to be over here having a renaissance.

    Duces.

    Edit: you know what the sad part of this is? You don’t have the strength of mind or character to admit you’re wrong. You’ll either get mad about this and post some other long-winded idiotic rant, or you’ll focus on my confrontational nature and use of swear words, or you’ll just delete it, but you don’t havbe the strength of Character to admit, or even realize your error. Enjoy that.

    • Anonymous

      Very good post.

      So we seem to agree John Kerry made an extremely insensitive and racist remark for which he has never been confronted and has refused to offer an apology or explanation.

    • Anonymous

      Very good post.

      So we seem to agree John Kerry made an extremely insensitive and racist remark for which he has never been confronted and has refused to offer an apology or explanation.

  • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

    Amazing how many single-post puppets have shown up in this thread.

    It seems like they don’t realize that you can click on the picture, and see their entire commenting history on Disqus.  It gives you an idea of their actual activity, their thinking, and their motivations – and also how credible people are finding them elsewhere.

    A whole bunch of single-post commentors makes me think that only one person is really pissed at this topic, and you’ve got to wonder just why they’re pushing the meme so hard.