31 American troops killed in helicopter shoot down

Horrendous news coming out of Afghanistan:

A military helicopter crashed in eastern Afghanistan, killing 31 U.S. special operation troops and seven Afghan commandos, the country’s president said Saturday. An American official said it was apparently shot down, in the deadliest single incident for American forces in the decade-long war.

The Taliban claimed they downed the helicopter with rocket fire while it was taking part in a raid on a house where insurgents were gathered in the province of Wardak late Friday. It said wreckage of the craft was strewn at the scene.

NATO confirmed the overnight crash took place and that there “was enemy activity in the area.” But it said it was still investigating the cause and conducting a recovery operation at the site.

I am now moving swiftly toward the mindset that would bring our men and women home from Afghanistan and this news this morning has nudged me even more in that direction.

There is no firm commitment from the top to win this thing, there are fewer and fewer Americans who support our involvement over there, I’m no longer convinced that there’s a strategy for victory and the loss of America’s blood and treasure given these circumstances is simply not worth it.

God be with the families of those killed, God give eternal rest to those who were lost.

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Posted by on August 6, 2011.
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  • jim_m

    Not having a plan and a commitment to win a military conflict is a huge mistake. In the immortal words of John Kerry, “How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?”  Obama’s incompetence is criminal.

  • Anonymous

    There is no way to win.  Like it or not, the Taliban are like the Mujidadeen the USA funded to fight the Soviets.  The Soviets tried complete brutality, it backfired on them and recruited more fighters against them.  One thing the Afghans are good at is defeating foreign occupation.

    No reason to waste brave men further.

    • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

      we routed the Taliban once before and let the boot up …  we could do so again if Obama was committed but since he’s not we need to leave …

  • Anonymous

    “There is no firm commitment from the top to win this thing”

    Time to leave.  Just let ‘em know, you harbor terrorists that attack us again, we’ll be back at 50,000 feet and this place will be a glass parking lot.

    • Anonymous

      true, but we can also stay and find the specific evil terrorists and kill only them. I say let the Afghanis people build a new life free from Taliban terror.

  • Frank O’Connell

    >>>”Obama’s incompetence is criminal. ”

    Clearly Obama is at fault here. If Bush had been president this never would have happened. I suspect Obama told his terrorist pals exactly where the helicopter would be flying, then sold the ammunition to the enemy. No WAIT – he traded the ammunition for cheeseburgers.

    Can we put up that picture of Obama smoking a cigarette? Or the one where his ears stick out? I think that will help readers understand the seriousness of the analysis we do around here…

    It’s not easy exposing Marxist Muslim terrorists who live in the White House…

    Hobbit Powers Unite!

    • jim_m

      His ears stick out in all the pictures.  Just saying.

      • Frank O’Connell

        lol… Well the, use the ones where it looks very comical.

        Oh, wait…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TEXQ3IBILXN5OKWE7DVDWEDG4Q Inge

      I agree with you-or may a muslim in his admin leaked the details of our finest, and who was on that particular chopper!

      • Frank O’Connell

        Of course they did, at Obama’s direction. We all KNOW Obama is a muslim born in Kenya. We KNOW he hates America. We KNOW he sells drugs to children. How long are we going to put up with his muslim ways?

        Hobbit Powers UNITE to defeat the muslim in the white house. Boo Ya!
         

    • Gordon Sands

      Uh, no it’s Bush’s fault for sending troops into Iraq instead of Afghanistan when Afghanistan was totally winnable. Bush chose personal feelings and animosity towards Saddam over winning the war in Afghanistan.

  • Anonymous

    I think you need a med eval Frank?   

    That said, since you brought it up. Its not like this administration has no history selling weapons to an enemy now do they?

    • Frank O’Connell

      Hobbit Powers UNITE!

    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      Like single handedly arming the Sinaloa Cartel for war?

    • Anonymous

      Sure you want to go there? Who was POTUS for Iran-Contra?

      • Anonymous

        The Iran Contra scandal was about making untraceable money and getting 6 hostages released. Fast and Furious was about breaking eggs to make an omelet and furthering gun control among the hoped for furor.

  • Frank O’Connell

    >>>”I am now moving swiftly toward the mindset that would bring our men and
    women home from Afghanistan and this news this morning has nudged me
    even more in that direction.”

    A slimy liberal would probably suggest that’s just an emotional knee-jerk reaction there.

    Let’s not be guided by principals and logic like “thinking adults”  — let’s let our emotions guide us like children, and if there is something emotionally upsetting a knee-jerk reaction is highly appropriate. Never mind reasoning.. let’s just go with our guts.

    Hobbit Powers UNITE!

  • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

    Lord, guard and guide the men who fly
    And those who on the ocean ply;
    Be with our troops upon the land,
    And all who for their country stand:
    Be with these guardians day and night
    And may their trust be in they might.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CYFI4EQAFJD37AHU7IIAR22RY4 kafantaris

    Though the temptation from something like this is to pack our things and go home, maybe we should instead hit them with all we got — even to the point of annihilation.  Indeed, this may be the only solution since insurgency for these folks is a way of life.  Neither reason nor conventional defeat will do for them; only destruction.  And better that it be theirs than ours. 
          We should seize the momentum of our wrath, therefore, and carry out what needs to be done.  Alexander the Great learned the necessity and utility of vengeance early on; and so did Julius Caesar. When it comes to warfare, weapons and tactics might change, but the old lessons remain the same.  

  • Anonymous

    What a tool and a fool. Are you sitting in a book lined study smoking a Meerschaum, looking up from your well-worn copy of Caesar’s history of his conquest of Gaul long enough to spout this nonsense?

    Annihilate “these folks?” Which folks would that be, kafantaris? Civilians? Ever hear of a little concept called “international law?” An occupying power doesn’t have the right, under it, to “exact vengeance” on a civilian population.

    • Frank O’Connell

      Figures that liberals would stand in the way of illegal, vengeful murders. Haven’t you heard the saying “an eye for an eye, an illegal vengeful murder whenever we get mad”, Bruce?

      We’re jerks, and when our knees jerk we’re knee-jerking jerks, and proud of it.

      Hobbit Powers UNITE!

    • Anonymous

      We have to kill the population to spread democracy.  Any ideas that their country is theirs must be refudiated.

  • Anonymous

    One could start a conspiracy theory on this if one wanted to infer that the same team that took out Osama have now been killed. At least part of them. We never did see his body. Now they weren’t wearing head cameras during the raid. and now the team is dead. Easy isn’t it. Yes I know it’s ridiculous.

  • Paul Hooson

    This is the nature of war. The Navy Seals celebrate a major victory over Osama bin Laden one day, with no loss of life. Another day, your enemy celebrates a military victory over you, with no loss of life. Our family well knows this fact, with several generations of soldiers, and more than enough dead or wounded to show for those efforts to defend the U.S.  

  • Paul Hooson

    This is the nature of war. The Navy Seals celebrate a major victory over Osama bin Laden one day, with no loss of life. Another day, your enemy celebrates a military victory over you, with no loss of life. Our family well knows this fact, with several generations of soldiers, and more than enough dead or wounded to show for those efforts to defend the U.S.  

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  • Anonymous

    just so you know Wizbang, I am for staying in Afghanistan; for centuries if we need to. Our fallen heroes are not supporting your attitude of cowardly giving up the fight. It is an all volunteer army over there fighting for the United States to be free from terrorist attacks here. It is a fight they intend to win. If we could only get a winning presidential leader in office, we could stabilize Afghanistan and then leave. You don’t leave because the taliban got lucky on a rocket propelled grenade shot. It is a war over there, and this is the ugly aspect of war. Fallen heroes. You know Wizbang, you couldn’t defend us from a vicious dog attack.  You are weak and a coward. The only way to end evil is to kill the perpetrators of evil. That is why we are in Afghanistan. To kill evil men.

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