Why?

This is just wrong.  (Written on the 10th  anniversary of 9/11.)

Paul Krugman - New York Times Blog

The Years of Shame

Is it just me, or are the 9/11 commemorations oddly subdued?

Actually, I don’t think it’s me, and it’s not really that odd.

What happened after 9/11 — and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not — was deeply shameful. Te (sic) atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue. Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons.

A lot of other people behaved badly. How many of our professional pundits — people who should have understood very well what was happening — took the easy way out, turning a blind eye to the corruption and lending their support to the hijacking of the atrocity?

The memory of 9/11 has been irrevocably poisoned; it has become an occasion for shame. And in its heart, the nation knows it.

I’m not going to allow comments on this post, for obvious reasons.

“…for obvious reasons.

What would those reasons be, Paul?

That the people who read this might have the audacity to disagree with your elitist musings?

That people may voice their utter disgust at your lack of decorum on this day of solemn reflection?

That people will call you out for your unparalleled narcissism?  For your selfish belief that your perverted thoughts are so important to the world that, no matter the occasion, they need to be heard?

Or are you just a coward?

We all know you view the world through an ultra-partisan, rabidly-liberal prism, where thoughts from your vaunted mind roll to your tongue and drop out like sour gumballs.  Your usual propaganda, whether written in the Liberal Talking Points of Record (The New York Times) or irately stammered during one of your bizarre rants on (what else?) MSNBC, can be dismissed and forgiven as contemplations of a honeycombed brain.

But, this is different.

With this screed, you have transcended even your own level of hyper-ideology.

What, exactly, did you expect to accomplish with this?  Thoughtful debate?  Are you so blinded by your hatred of others, and love of your own opinion, that you really don’t see the insensitivity of this?  Does it make you feel good about yourself to satisfy your self-absorbed thirst by speaking your “conscience” on this day?

You should be denounced, renounced and terminated from every professional entity which employs you:  The New York Times, Princeton University, MSNBC, your book publishers.  All of them.

You should be shunned by those in your personal life who give you love, respect, and joy (If you have any).

We all have the right of free speech.  We also have the ability to temper that right with a modicum of class and dignity.

With this outburst, you have elected to disgrace that freedom.

You are a small, miserable man.  You have shown the world that, for all of your supposed brilliance and intellect, you lack a simple sense of common decency.

Know what else you lack?

Shame.

 

 

 

Defending The Indefensible
Ten Years On
  • Anonymous

    I scrapped liberals  years ago.. Sue me!!!

    • Anonymous

      I expect a well reasoned  response from Shirl!!  That’s right  I’m talkin” to you!

  • Anonymous

    Anyways, I’m so  loaded I could cry

  • Chris McCann

    How about that nanothermite that is in every sample of debris and all the first responders lungs

    • Anonymous

       Shawn – You forgot to wipe your feet before coming into the house and you have brought in MIHOP truther into the comment thread.

      • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

        Dang.  Do we need to call the Hazmat crew AGAIN?

    • https://plus.google.com/114041580398058374552/posts McGehee

      The most common ingredient in thermite is aluminum powder. Gee, I wonder how that could have turned up at a jetliner crash site?

      Idiot.

      • Anonymous

        Also keep in mind that the iron workers and other involved in the cleanup used thermite to cut beams and other large bits of steel.

        • Anonymous

          Hey shut up you guys man, buzz kill >sarc off<

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU5DQWQTTHTPO4A4ZYSL3AAV2U Adjoran

    Any day when the likes of Paul Krugman are respected as learned elders is a day of shame.

    The man is so utterly dishonest that he has never hesitated to contradict his own declarations when it suited his political purpose.  He does have a narrow sliver of an economic discipline on his resume, when his analysis on the relationship between international trade and the business cycle was performed years ago.  But that never indicated any greater economic understanding, and in fact Krugman has a long history of being spectacularly wrong on nearly every prediction – except that his doomsaying is so common that anytime there is any sort of downturn, it can be said Krugman predicted it.

    As far back as the early ’90s, Democratic strategist James Carville said of Krugman, “He is well known for predicting 19 of the last three recessions.”

  • frank burns

    Sorry but he is right — Bin Laden prodded Bush and Cheney to rile up the American people to flout the good sense or practically the rest of the world, going in arrogantly and stupidly into Iraq as the press and the people of the US cheerleaded them. The whole world was for us, and then we acted arrogantly. Bin Laden loved it, just as he would love your blog here, ignoring the facts and setting up a bunch of arrogant Americans for making further mistakes. A country is no different than an individual — strength demands self criticism, not just hubris. Paul Krugman and his writing makes the nation stronger. Your cheerleading of America’s bad decision-making just makes the nation weaker, because you want to turn a blind eye to any mistake we may make, preventing self-criticism. Even the Bible has got this one right — Pride cometh before a fall. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2B3BHNZRLUIKIW4E2RNF5AWTLE stabby.kat

    Umm… I don’t know who this Paul guy is, but there’s nothing crazy
    about what you quoted in this article. It’s a little pompous I agree,
    but I think the way we reacted to 9/11 is terrible, we’ve caused over
    100,000 civilian deaths for an event that cost us 3,000, our rights and
    liberties are still dwindling away today, our economy is failing as a
    direct result of the billions to trillions of dollars we are spending on
    creating and manufacturing more weapons that are going to cost even
    more innocent lives and it’s been over 10 years, we still cannot see the
    end to this war that at least half of our country does not want to be
    in yet we have no say. How could anyone be PROUD of what happened after
    9/11?
    What makes you think your opinion matters more than anyone
    elses? We’re all on the same level, it does not matter what your
    political leanings are. And you’re trying to imply it’s a bad thing to
    be a liberal, that’s a shameful tactic. I can tell you were angry when
    you were writing this, which may be understandable but it’s not
    justified, what kind of professional journalist makes his writings so
    personal like this? Take a chill pill and learn to understand other
    peoples point of view.

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      ” Take a chill pill and learn to understand other peoples point of view.”

      I do understand them.  They’re of the opinion I don’t have any right to my point of view, no matter how reasoned it may be or what experience I’ve had to come up with it.  Their point of view overrides any disagreement or dissent.

      They’re entitled to theirs – I’m entitled to mine, and respect that their point of view is different than mine.  I would appreciate the same respect in return, but my experience is that I’m not going to get it.  Instead I’ll get derision and ridicule, which make it all the more difficult to maintain the respect they deserve – but they aren’t willing to give others.

    • Anonymous

      Ah, a lefty troll exposes himself by actually providing some so-called facts.  He/she/it states that “we’ve caused over 100,000 civilian deaths” (whatever that means).  Let’s say this number is at least close to being an actual number.  We are left to guess the time span, but let’s say 10 years.  That comes out to 27.4 deaths per day.  Now let’s then compare that numbers from The Documental Center for Human Rights In Iraq and Human Rights Watch, not known as Cheney-NeoCon dominated organizations, estimate between 70 and 125 civilian deaths per day for every one of Saddam’s 8,000-odd
      days in power.  So then what our obviously college educated troll (what, critical thinking course… no thanks) is in fact stating is that, by his/her/its  own “evidence” the U.S. reduced the daily civilian death rate to between 20% and 40% of what it was during Saddam’s murderous reign.  Hooray for the U.S…. you moron!

  • Anonymous

    Krugman has been losing his grip for years. Remember, this is the same guy who thinks that preparing for a fake invasion by extraterrestrials would be good for the economy.

    Odd that a couple of knuckleheads would come on here to defend him, but I’ve learned to expect anything from liberals.

  • Anonymous

    “What makes you think your opinion matters more than anyone
    elses? We’re all on the same level, it does not matter what your
    political leanings are.”

    Not when it’s Paul Krugman.  He’s on a separate – and much lower – level.  Yes, even below most Democrats. 

    As far as “learning to understand,” we understand the likes of Krugman quite well, thankyouverymuch.  He’s an idiot who said something right in a very specific field within a small subset of economics.  He then spent most of the last two decades being spectacularly wrong on pretty much everything he ever said or wrote about, and got a Nobel for political reasons.  He’s one of the great architects of the current President’s economic policies, and spend a lot of time and effort in slamming the right for, basically, disagreeing with the things that he got so horribly wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Krugman was dead on about Kerik, the guy was a crook who dipped into the ocean of cash flowing through Iraq during the corruption there. 

    And, hell yeah, there was a lot of corruption after 9/11 – just read the reports of the Special Inspectors General for Iraq and Afghanistan and the Commission on Wartime Contracting – all written by Republicans or non-partisan commissioners.

    Bush did his job pretty well right after 9/11, but then got rolled by the corruptos and crazies like Cheney, which led to disasters.

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      Chico -

      Our main problem with the rebuilding of Iraq is that we knew the culture – but we didn’t know the culture, if you see what I mean.  Yes, we know corruption and fraud are endemic in the ME cultures.  Bribes, graft, bakeesh, palm oil, it’s all there and when you see billions flowing in for a ‘rebuild’, is it at all suprising that some of it was going to ‘stick’ to various hands along the way?

      Especially with the emphasis of doitnownowgetitdonedon’tworryaboutthecosttimeiswastingwhyare we draggingourfeetonthisprojectthrowmoremoneyatitNOWdammit!… that was the norm.

      One problem is that we’ve got a bureaucracy that’s exceedingly slow about authorizing expendatures, requiring massive amounts of paperwork to justify damn near any purchase.  We didn’t have the TIME to go through normal procedures on Iraq – and with the mandate to use as many local businesses and connections as possible (to make sure the pie got spread as evenly as possible) – hell, I’m surprised it wasn’t a lot worse.

      So you take a top-down bureaucratic culture that has massive amounts of checks and balances built in – giving money to a culture where bribes, graft, and corruption are the norm, where family ties are more important than the rule of law – with the checks and balances disabled.

      Yeah – there’s going to be a mess of waste, fraud, and abuse. And it would have happened no matter who was in charge in the WH and Congress.

      • Anonymous

        I am talking about the American corruption, not the Iraqi corruption. 

        Sure, the Iraqi government and NGO people we gave money to stole from us, but Americans did not need Iraqi culture to teach them to rip off.

        There was massive contracting fraud from U.S. contractors that was All-American.  Like the billions KBR ripped off.  There were many many smaller rip-offs – Google “Custer Battles” for an example.  Custer Battles got their contracts through political connections.  Cronyism was rampant.  There were a lot of contracts that collected millions and got nothing done.

        This all flowed from the lack of a plan and of course, invading Iraq in the first place.

        • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

          Chico -

          Are you familiar with the normal methods government uses to contract out services?  The requests for proposals, the judgement period, the award of the proposal, then how the losers can challenge the award, all before the first bit of work is performed?  You’re talking months, at least – possibly years if things get contentious.  (Went 18 months one time working for a government contractor who didn’t have a contract - they lost the bid to continue their services, and contested the loss. They finally lost.)

          And then you’ve got to worry if the bidder selected can actually DO the work – just because they’re bidding is no guarantee that they know what to do. 

          So let me ask you this – if you absolutely, positively had to have something vital done immediately – and you knew someone who could do it – would you be more or less inclined to pay the premium to get the job done as right as possible, or go through the lengthy mess to get someone who’s willing to work cheap, but you’re not sure will actually be able to do the job?

          (We’re looking to paint the house next year.  Do I look around and find someone I don’t know who’ll give me the lowest bid, or do I ask friends who they’ve used, and think about who I’ve used in the past?  The thing is, there’s lots of folks that can handle painting.)

          Not trying to excuse the waste – but just trying to explain that in a time critical environment money DOES buy time, as do connections.  How many companies could do what KBR does?

        • Anonymous

          I am familiar with the FAR and the sole-source justifications, etc.  So was Bunnatine Greenhouse, and she dissented from the contract extension on LOGCAP for KBR.  Google “Bunnatine Greenhouse” for the story.

          The problem was that political hacks were awarding contracts to their cronies and friendly companies without regard to merit.  The Department of State and USAID were shut out from the process.  People with no experience but who conformed to Bushie political correctness were hired.  Why did they ask potential hires to the Coalition Provisional Authority who they voted for and whether they agreed with Roe v Wade?  What did that have to do with Iraq?

          It was a hackarama and a corruptarama.

          • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

            So she dissented.  Big friggin’ whoop – couldn’t be any political cause for that, I’m sure.

            It’s history.  Learn from it.  Or not – as you choose.

          • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

            So she dissented.  Big friggin’ whoop – couldn’t be any political cause for that, I’m sure.

            It’s history.  Learn from it.  Or not – as you choose.

        • Anonymous

          I am familiar with the FAR and the sole-source justifications, etc.  So was Bunnatine Greenhouse, and she dissented from the contract extension on LOGCAP for KBR.  Google “Bunnatine Greenhouse” for the story.

          The problem was that political hacks were awarding contracts to their cronies and friendly companies without regard to merit.  The Department of State and USAID were shut out from the process.  People with no experience but who conformed to Bushie political correctness were hired.  Why did they ask potential hires to the Coalition Provisional Authority who they voted for and whether they agreed with Roe v Wade?  What did that have to do with Iraq?

          It was a hackarama and a corruptarama.

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone read Krugman, besides his wife?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7YIUZMXOD5JGZZTCYMVA75KFU Shadow

    I saw this yesterday and wondered why too.  I believe Paul is using absurdity to try to remain relevant now that his economic intelligence has been debunked.  He refuses to accept the stark reality that he has been so wrong for so long so he must find a way to continue the lie.

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      Sometimes it’s just better to turn and walk away, instead of doing and saying everything possible to stay in the spotlight.

  • Anonymous

    Krugman and company hate patriotism and anything that encourages it.

  • Anonymous

    Krugman is a textbook example of someone being consumed by ideological hatred.

    Just when we think he cannot sink any lower or become even more consumed by irrational hatred for those on the other side of the political spectrum Krugman surprises.

    It was sad enough seeing Gore going over the cliff.
    Now it looks like he’ll have company.

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      The problem is – even though they’re ‘over the cliff’, they’re going to be in the media for decades to come.  Al Gore’s about to do a 24-hour Convert-A-Thon to attempt to win over the heathen unwashed.

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/12/us-gore-climatechange-idUSTRE78B2GT20110912

      Poor sap – he’s watching the scam unravel, and probably wondering where he’s going to hide…

    • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

      The problem is – even though they’re ‘over the cliff’, they’re going to be in the media for decades to come.  Al Gore’s about to do a 24-hour Convert-A-Thon to attempt to win over the heathen unwashed.

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/12/us-gore-climatechange-idUSTRE78B2GT20110912

      Poor sap – he’s watching the scam unravel, and probably wondering where he’s going to hide…

    • Anonymous

      Maybe I’m just old, cold and unfeeling.  I didn’t see anything sad about Al’s plunge into the abyss. Life’s choice do bare consequences. Besides, so far the msm has happily buoyed Al up since he took his plunge. So he has not yet experienced the splat that accompanies reaching the bottom. It’s too bad really, some people actually learn something after experiencing “the splat” a time or two.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t ask why Krugman would write such a thing.  His track record speaks for itself.  My “why” moment came re: the editors at the NYT.  Why publish this screed, and why on this day?

  • herddog505

    Are we seriously to believe that bin Laden planned and ordered 9-11 for the purpose NOT of murdering large numbers of Americans in the most grisly and spectacular manner he could devise, but rather to goad us into invading Iraq and forcing American air travelers to take off their shoes???

    Seriously?

    Did Japan also attack Pearl Harbor to goad FDR into interning Japanese-Americans?  Maybe the Germans sent the Zimmerman telegram to goad Americans into kicking dachshunds, too.  Oooh, oooh, I know!  The Confederates fired on Ft. Sumter to goad Lincoln into instituting the draft!

    Jebus…

    And let’s assume for a second that this leftist drivel is true.  What have the dems – who apparently are the only ones smart enough to see through bin Fishfood’s diabolical plan – done about it?  Have they revoked the Patriot Act?  Pulled immediately out of Iraq and A-stan?  Dismantled the TSA?  No?  If not, why not?  Why are they KNOWINGLY doing exactly what they claim bin Fishfood wanted in the first place?

    • Anonymous

      No doubt because Bush is making them with the Haliburtion mind machine.

    • Anonymous

      No, herddog, what you are to seriously believe is that it was Bin Laden’s fondest wish to see America bankrupt and exhaust itself in an Afghan (and Iraqi! Yippeee!!) quagmire, just as the Soviet Union had done. Then he could boast that “Islam” — as he defined it — had defeated two superpowers. And he is, posthumously, nearing success.

      This is indisputable. It wasn’t the murders themselves that were his aim. It was the reaction he hoped to provoke. America played right into his hands. If you still don’t see that after 10 long years, it’s not Krugman’s fault.

      • Anonymous

        Bruce, you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.  Bin Laden in his own words thought the US was a paper tiger that would crumble with a few blows.

        http://www.slate.com/id/115404/

        among multiple sources for the quote.  He did not expect the US to be drawn into a long war, he expected the US to do essentially nothing.  That Bin Laden’s goal was to get the US into Afghanistan is revising history to match your 20/20 hindsight.

      • herddog505

        I must ask you to provide a link to some statement by bin Fishfood to this effect.  Given that bin Fishfood always b*tched about our presence in the ME (especially in Saudi Arabia), it is a bit hard to believe that he was deliberately trying to goad us into sending MORE troops into the area.

        “Brothers, I have a splendid idea!  We will attack The Great Satan, thereby tricking him into invading our host country of Afghanistan!  Yes, many of us will be killed by his retaliation, and those of us who aren’t killed will live the lives of hunted fugitives, moving daily or even hourly from cave to cave to avoid his laser-guided bombs, attack helicopters, and very angry soldiers, but this is a small price to pay for bankrupting his economy and degrading the civil liberties of his people!  BWAH-HAH-HAH!”

        Only an idiot goads another country – especially a superpower – into making war on him.  Further, this theory of yours presupposes that bin Fishfood would foresee that we would conduct a prolonged ground campaign (quagmire!) and not simply bomb A-stan (further) into the stone age, perhaps even with nuclear weapons. 

        I suggest that Brian_The_Adequate is on the mark: bin Fishfood thought we were a paper tiger and that killing thousands of Americans WITHOUT RETALIATION would make that clear to the rest of the world. 

        By the way: was he trying to goad us into a quagmire when his minions blew up the WTC back in ’93?  The embassies in Africa?  The Khobar Towers?  The USS Cole?  “Dammit!  I keep killing these infidels in the hopes that they will embark upon a financially ruinous ground campaign followed by an effort to spread democracy in the Islamic world even while they have to take their shoes off to get on an airplane, but they just won’t take the bait!  Oh, what can I do to REALLY push them over the edge???”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001388070596 Jeffrey Ostermiller

    The title of this little man’s rant is a contradiction in terms.  That alone should tell you what his opinion, such as it is, is worth.  

  • Anonymous

    This type of contrarian sensationalism is unbecoming of anyone with a high school education, much less a Nobel Prize.  Mr. Krugman does himself and his profession a disservice with his attempt at “shock journalism”.  

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