Looks Like I Picked The Wrong Day To Quit Raking Muck…

Dang, the Jay Tea “luck” struck again. Yesterday, I did a nice little summary on the big scandals (as I see ’em) plaguing the Obama administration, and said that one of ’em was pretty much dead. Well, later in the day, there were big — BIG — developments in two of them, including the one I wrote off.


First up, some new documents in Operation Fast And Furious surfaced that show that the whole “this was a botched sting operation” story is, to be blunt, bullshit. No, this was an operation whose sole purpose was to put guns in to the hands of Mexican drug cartels, even to the point of having the US government (that’s you and me, folks) pay for the guns.


One of my main points about Fast and Furious was that while the conspiracy theories were crazy, the official story was even crazier. Well, now we know why — because the official story was just a flat-out lie. Which means that, as far as I’m concerned, the conspiracy theories — which are not contradictory in the least — are the official explanation, until an alternative — a remotely plausible one — is presented. And all those who pushed this NEED to be tried for espionage, treason, and terrorism. Or, alternately, deported to Mexico to face justice there. Either works for me, and perhaps the threat of deportation might entice them to start talking.


I stand by my earlier declaration: I don’t need to know the motives behind it; I’m perfectly content to let the bare facts stand, unexplained, as various and sundry officials get hauled into court. I would like to know what the reasoning was, but it’s not that important to me.


Next, the awkward one. I thought the liberal-stuffing of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division with hard-core, committed leftist activists was a big deal, but just not likely to take off. And I was partly right — it hasn’t caught the imagination of the public like others have.


But it’s got the Justice Department plenty worried, and that’s pretty damned good in and of itself. Whether or not they actually broke any laws, they’re acting like they did — and if anyone who ought to know if they broke laws, it would be these folks.


My, things are certainly getting interesting, and for all the right people…

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  • herddog505

    According to documents obtained by Fox News, Agent John Dodson was ordered to buy six semi-automatic Draco pistols — two of those were purchased at the Lone Wolf gun store in Peoria, Ariz. An unusual sale, Dodson was sent to the store with a letter of approval from David Voth, an ATF group supervisor. 

    Dodson then sold the weapons to known illegal buyers, while fellow agents watched from their cars nearby. 

    This was not a “buy-bust” or a sting operation, where police sell to a buyer and then arrest them immediately afterward. In this case, agents were “ordered” to let the sale go through and follow the weapons to a stash house. 

    According to sources directly involved in the case, Dodson felt strongly that the weapons should not be abandoned and the stash house should remain under 24-hour surveillance. However, Voth disagreed and ordered the surveillance team to return to the office. Dodson refused, and for six days in the desert heat kept the house under watch, defying direct orders from Voth. 

    A week later, a second vehicle showed up to transfer the weapons. Dodson called for an interdiction team to move in, make the arrest and seize the weapons. Voth refused and the guns disappeared with no surveillance. 


    Issa and Grassley need to have to Voth character before their committees PRONTO.  Now, it could be that Dodson is a disgruntled employee or has some personal animus against Voth and is (ahem) stretching the truth about what Voth told him to do.  However, if this story is factually correct, then one has to ask what Voth was thinking.  He ORDERED an ATF officer to effectively transfer weapons to the cartel?  As is noted later in the piece, Dodson screamed at Voth and HIS supervisor to the effect that they might as well empty out the ATF office arms room and hand the weapons over to the crooks.

    This is a SERIOUS “WTF”.  If the story is true, there is absolutely no good excuse for what happened.  Further, it’s hard to believe that Voth and his supervisors were so stupid.  Therefore, they must have been told to do this.  If so, then by whom?  And why?

    I wonder what the Mexican government makes of all this.

  • Anonymous

    Talking about this story with a buddy at work and he jumped to a conclusion that I had not considered or seen speculated about. 

    Could this be simple corruption at the BATFE rather than political corruption?

    Instead of a political motive like the Stealth Gun Control hypothesis, could it be as simple as narco money buying the correct career staffer(s) in the various involved offices?

    I have not fully digested this idea yet, but the pro is that one can see an understandable motive and seems to fit most of the known facts.  The con is why the coverup if the corruption is at a reasonable low level?

    • herddog505

      An interesting hypothesis.  On the other hand, it seems to me that IF the cartel(s) had bought off one or more BATF agents, then there are easier ways to allow the guns to flow than to make the BATF the actual buyer.  It’s akin to the police corruption in Chicago during the time of Capone: Capone simply paid the cops to look the other way, not actually operate a brewery and make deliveries themselves.

      Further, if it was one or more “bad” agents, then the easiest thing for the DoJ to do would be to conduct a VERY public investigation and make it quite clear that this was the problem.  The fact that they’ve as good as admitted that Gunwalker was an official, sanctioned operation (to the extent they’ve admitted anything; Thomas J. Jackson couldn’t stonewall so thoroughly) undercuts the idea that it was relatively low level corruption.

      • jim_m

        Yeah, if it weren’t for the fact that this was an official operation and that there has been testimony form field agents that they were directed to let the guns go and that ATF officials were “delighted” when those weapons showed up at crime scenes, it would make sense for it to be just some dirty agents letting the guns go.

        Unfortunately, there is too much evidence that this was a planned operation and that it had ends that were not in the interests of this country.

    • Anonymous

      So a bunch of “rogue” ATF agents decide to commit what is essentially an ‘act of war’ against a neighboring country AND NO ONE WILL FIND OUT?

      They purchase or allow the purchase of weapons and write down the serial numbers that can be checked against weapons found at crime scenes?

      That won’t wash.  Just like the LA Times whitewash about ATF agents being FORCED to go this route because US gun laws are so lax.

    • Anonymous

      easy way to test that out, get the agents tell them they are about to spend the rest of their lives in jail and we’ll find out quick just who did what, when.

    • Anonymous

      Ok, looks like the simple corruption hypothesis has a problem explaining all the known data.

      Nuts, I was hoping it would work out as I really don’t want to believe any of the plausible alternate hypotheses is true.