Experience Gap

A lot of pundits are seeking to describe the aberrant behavior of the OWS crowd using the old and, frankly, worn out cliches.

Some ascribe this to class warfare (affluence gap).  Rubbish.  These are the children of privilege and of the middle classes making asses of themselves.

Others to generational warfare (generation gap).  More rubbish.  The OWS crowd is a miniscule fraction of the generations from which they hale.

The real gap is in Experience.

Sunday Reflection: Protestors should try occupying reality for real change

By: Kurt Schlichter
the Washington Examiner

Right now, idealistic young Americans are gathered together to fight injustice and build a better world.

Sure, they’re a little dirty, and maybe some of their language is a bit rough, but they’ve left behind family and friends, as well as the creature comforts the rest of us take for granted, to make a stand for what they believe in.

It’s just too bad that today the mainstream media is focusing on the spoiled, incoherent clowns of Occupy Wall Street and ignoring our young fighting men and women.

Both groups hail from the same generational cadres. Both groups hail from the same socioeconomic backgrounds. One of the two is making a real difference in the world, and that sure as hell is not the petulant overgrown children of the OWS protests.

These are Potemkin protesters, community organized by government worker unions to allow liberal Democrats a way to triangulate to the center next year. Only the rebel media outfits will actually stick a mic in the protesters’ dirty faces and let them talk.

What comes out is a confused hash of gripes about their banks, complaints about their student loans, and whining about the quality of their jobs.

Tragically, graduates of Ivy League universities brandishing master’s degrees in minority women’s studies are not getting jobs that pay enough to service their $150,000 student loans. Who could have seen that coming?

At least the troops have real jobs, though the monthly paycheck for a private first class of $1,729.80 starts looking even less princely when you figure that the Army is a 24/7 gig, as opposed to a 4-to-8 shift at Starbucks.

And our troops have to worry about staying in one piece while the worst threat a barista faces is a stockbroker outraged that he got a venti half-soy/half-chai latte instead of a grande.

Even as the protesters count down the number of days of their “occupation” of downtown parks and sidewalks, on Oct. 7 our troops marked the 10th anniversary of war on battlefields where their next step could make them triple amputees.

But the troops would not complain to the cameras even if there were any left in the war zones documenting their struggles. They aren’t whiners. They may be the same general age as the Occupy Wall Street gang, but they occupy a very different, less frivolous world.

On a windy mountaintop in Kunar province, a tired 22-year-old infantryman on patrol rests and shares a swig of warm water with his buddy. In Manhattan, a 22-year-old from Scarsdale shares a bong-load of killer weed with a guy sporting dreadlocks and a Che T-shirt he got at Hot Topic.

Nearby, a young lady whose TA canceled that afternoon’s NYU oppression studies seminar so everyone could head to the protest feverishly types away at a screed about the militaristic inhumanity of American capitalism on her new iPad.

In Afghanistan, a young American soldier with a locked and loaded M4 assures a band of nervous Pashtun mothers that her platoon will make sure the Taliban don’t come and butcher their daughters for the sin of attending school.

Across Zuccotti Park, a self-described human rights activist with a sociology degree from Yale screams “Fascist!” at the weary NYPD cop who told him to move along and stop blocking the street.

At the same time, a world away, a first-generation Mexican-American medic from Fresno who a year ago was graduating high school ignores the impact of AK-47 bullets all around him as he desperately tries to stop the bleeding from the sucking gunshot wound in his platoon sergeant’s chest.

The Occupy Wall Streeters celebrate with ramped-up bongo drumming, high-fives and “up-twinkles” when they successfully defend the park from its rightful owners’ attempt to clean up their filth.

Our exhausted troops quietly remember those maimed and lost liberating millions from unspeakable tyranny in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Our troops likely don’t give any thought at all to these spoiled adolescents.

Nor should they, or the rest of us, for that matter.

Spoiled children such as these should be ignored.

Hat Tip: Dave in Texas, Ace of Spades

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  • jim_m

    And if those servicemen have the misfortune to come to the greenway in Boston, the OWS crowd will spit on them just as they have already done.  Meanwhile, lefty leaders are openly wishing for a “Kent State” moment and while they richly deserve it, they won’t get it.

  • Anonymous

    Um, there have been veterans pictured at the OWS demonstrations.

    • jim_m

      Indeed, there are veterans who have betrayed their country like John Kerry, seeking their own gain from weakening their country.

      Having served in the military is not a guarantee or a sign of wisdom.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

        Or, alternately, there are veterans who disagree with you – and you feel you must label them as traitors rather than recognize they can have different viewpoints than you and still be decent people.

        At least, that would be a reasonable adult’s outlook.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t see protesting financial sector frauds and bailouts as betraying the country, but I guess it doesn’t take much for you to call some combat veteran a traitor if they deviate from the right-wing party line.

      • jim_m

        I was referring specifically to spitting on our service men and women.  (which Kerry did metaphorically)

      • Anonymous

        I’m not defending Kerry, I’m talking about the veterans who have been at OWS protests.

        Also, nobody has spit on any veterans at OWS, that is your fantasy.

        • jim_m

          http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/14/uscg-warns-staff-after-occupy-boston-protesters-spit-on-coast-guard-officer/
          Read my comments.  I was referring to the protester spitting on active service men and women and I specifically mentioned Boston.  Yet it is all one movement.  You would just as quickly tar the whole of the TEA Party for the action of one person at one event.  OWS owns this action of spitting on our service men and women. 

          This was a big deal here in Boston.

          • jim_m

            Or would you like a link of OWS protesters desecrating the flag?  http://news.yahoo.com/photos/member-occupy-wall-st-movement-walks-over-u-photo-210130472.html

            OWS is about anti-Americanism.  When both the CPUSA (http://www.cpusa.org/solidarity-with-occupy-wall-street-teleconference-oct-11/ )and the American Nazi Party (http://whitehonor.com/white-power/the-occupy-wall-street-movement/ ) are supporting OWS you should be concerned that it does not have the best interests for America at heart.

          • Anonymous

            I’m skeptical about this spitting story- no names in the story, and wholly propagated through right-wing media.

            There is a well-organized propaganda effort underway against OWS, I take this the same way I would listening to Radio Moscow in the old days.

          • jim_m

            Chica, The CG is in the media telling its people to avoid contact with the protest.  That isn’t made up.

            The Coast Guard in Boston confirmed that a woman in uniform was harassed and spat upon near Occupy Boston protesters.
            The woman was walking to the train and said protesters spit on her
            twice, called her foul names and even threw a water bottle at her.
            Now, the Coast Guard is warning all staff working on Atlantic Avenue to avoid those protesters while in uniform.

            So now you are saying that the Coast Guard is part of the vast right wing conspiracy (TM)? You’re the one with the paranoid fantasies if that is true.  Get out a little and go somewhere other than Kos for your news.

          • Anonymous

            Coast Guard and other military statements are issued through named public affairs officers, not “The Coast Guard in Boston.”

          • jim_m

            Indeed, but that does not mean that the news media is required to name that source.  There are plenty of times that a government agency spokesperson is cited without being named in a news story.  Your objection is silly.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            The name, which ten seconds and one Google search popped up, is Luke Clayton.

            Chicka is really bad at this internet stuff.

          • Anonymous

            Fox is all-out against OWS and we all know how ethical News Corporation is.   So there is no credibility there.

            The amount of frothing at the mouth attempts to discredit OWS by right-wingers is amazing.  Anti-semites, Nazis, spitting on troops.  Funny, the pictures I see are of kids who are pretty normally scruffy, along with some groups of older people and veterans.  Are they that scary?

            But this inspires about four anti-OWS posts per day here, and the whole of the right-wing media is all-out against them.  The oligarchical masters have commanded, and you all follow.

          • jim_m

            At least I can link to Nazis and communists supporting OWS.  The left merely smeared the TEA Party with accusations of racism and never found one bit of evidence for that accusation.

            And while you are declaring how unethical FOX supposedly is I would recommend that you take a look at the AP and Reuters that published photoshopped pictures to criticize Israel, or CBS that produced Rathergate, or CNN that admitted to whitewashing the crimes of Saddam Hussein for media access, or the president of NBC, who in 2008 said that the media would give obama a 5-10% edge in the polls.

            Just because FOX doesn’t hew to the same far left liberal stance as the rest of the media doesn’t mean that it is conservative. Their actual news isn’t by any strech of the definition. 

            Like many lefties you conflate opinion with news.  You need to learn to tell the difference.  FOX opinion is conservative.  FOX news is pretty close to down the middle.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

            “The left merely smeared the TEA Party with accusations of racism and never found one bit of evidence for that accusation.”

            Who smeared Michelle Bachmann for her odd views?  How about DeMint for very close to open hostility towards gays?

            And we won’t get into how people feel on gay soldiers in the Republican caucus.

            “FOX opinion is conservative. FOX news is pretty close to down the middle.”

            FOX is infotainment. Considering it news is pretty funny.

          • jim_m

            Funny, the pictures I see are of kids who are pretty normally scruffy, along with some groups of older people and veterans.

            http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/yup-theyre-just-like-tea-partiers-leftist-pig-takes-crap-on-nyc-cop-car/wall-street-protester-crap/

            Really?  My definition of “scruffy” has a lot less to do with defecating in public.

          • Anonymous

            I’m sure Nazis and Communists support the Yankees, too, does not make the Yankees responsible.

            This is a mass movement much larger than the Tea Party, and it’s world wide.  Calling them Nazis and Communists just loses you credibility.

            John Robb had something to say about it:

            Why Occupy? Why Tea Party? Why Protest? Simple; The US economy is broken. Incomes are less than they were 35 years ago. Everything costs more. We’ve had 17% unemployment (traditional measure) for 2 years and we’re about to lose many more jobs.. Our collective debt is 370% of our GDP (from all sources, from consumer to gov’t). Our financial system has a) enabled the transfer of our manufacturing jobs to a mercantilist (managed trade) China and b) stolen the rest of our wealth (and is in the process of gambling what’s left of it away). Finally, given the ongoing instability of our economic system, we don’t have long before the entire thing fails and with it our collective future (rich or poor). The question really is: why aren’t you protesting? why isn’t everyone protesting?

            http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2011/10/some-random-items-re-occupy-question-how-do-you-reform-capitalism-if-the-current-corruptedbroken-system-completely-rej.html

          • jim_m

            No but the yankees are about baseball and not politics,.  OWS is about politics and when the Reds nd Nazis are aligning themselves politically with you, you ought to be concerned.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            @jim_m723:disqus progressives were the source of both communism and fascism, and have often been fellow travelers with both.

          • Anonymous

            Hey, Chico-”This is a mass movement much larger than the Tea Party,…”

            Prove it.
            Links.
            Now.

          • jim_m

            If you took the OWS attendance from every site across the nation for every day and added it up you would still fall short of the 9/12 rally in DC where over a million showed up.  And the TEA Party picked up their trash.

            Hell, we had more people in a TEA Party event in tiny Lisle, Illinois than they have had here in Boston for the OWS BS here.

            I suspect that Chica is including the legions of union goons that will be called out later.

          • Anonymous

            There are tea party groups all over the world as well. Australia,Israel,Russia,Netherlands,Japan,Italy. I have yet to see OSW groups as large as the Tea Party movements. 
            Calling them Nazis and Communists or Socialists is just an easy way to categorize the OWS. All these groups are contained in the OWS. What they disagree on is a fraction of what they do agree on politically and socially.

          • Anonymous

            Tweet from Salman Rushdie:

            Salman Rushdie Again:I found protesters at #OWS intelligent, caring, idealistic, thoughtful. Much of the hostility they face is the antithesis of all that.

            You said it, Salman.

          • Anonymous

            Here ya go Chico, give ‘em a call and tell us what the First District PAO has to say:

            First Coast Guard District
            Boston, MA
            Phone: 617-223-8515
            Fax: 617-223-8523
            PAO Pager: 888-405-1597

        • Anonymous
          • jim_m

            And this means a lot.  The CG is particularly well regarded in New England.  Spitting on a Coastie does not just represent rejection of the military, but antipathy toward the people who protect a way of life here in NE.  This event was just evidence of an anti-American spirit in the OWS movement. 

          • Anonymous

            Highly regarded in Alaska as well. Those are the guys who save your asses when your boat decides to go belly up in the worst conditions.

          • Anonymous

            They probably thought she was Navy.  mAsshats

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            Not likely even for these supremely useless idiots.  They saw someone in Uniform and didn’t care which branch of service it was.

      • Anonymous

        If they were serious about protesting bailouts and fraud, they would camp out at the White House and golf courses across the Country.

    • Anonymous

      Um, I think you missed the point.

      • Anonymous

        The point was to raise a false and divisive dichotomy between the OWS protesters and troops. 
        A big firm lawyer serving his corporate clients with propaganda by playing at false populism and pretending to sneer at Ivy League grads?  That point?

        If anybody’s been screwed by the system, it’s troops and veterans of these wars, which have secured Iraq for BP, CNOOC, ENI and Exxon, and Afghanistan for Chinese mining interests, also making shitloads of money for KBR, Fluor and other contractors while the troops get killed and maimed.

        • Anonymous

          If the wars profited all those foreign corporations,why are the OWS crowds protesting american business? Don’t the Eeeeevillll Corporations in the US own our politicians? Or are you pissed that we have these wars and our Corporations weren’t good enough to get the oil and mining rights in Afganistan and Iraq? You sound as confused as everyone else is about what the hell OWS is protesting.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            @Digg34:disqus , chicka is in its own clueless [lack of] class.

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        @LiberalNitemare:disqus  Since when would chicka missing the point be news or otherwise noteworthy?

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, and there are many vets with serious mental health problems.  Like what it appears many of these protestors have.  And your point is?

      • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

        Putting on a uniform doesn’t automatically sanctify the individual.  Knew a guy who made it through some very rigorous security checks – ended up getting bumped out when he started shitting in the barracks washers.  He had a couple of screws loose, tried to claim it was a part of his religion.

        (As far as I know, there’s no religion that mandates washing your clothes in shit.)

      • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

        Putting on a uniform doesn’t automatically sanctify the individual.  Knew a guy who made it through some very rigorous security checks – ended up getting bumped out when he started shitting in the barracks washers.  He had a couple of screws loose, tried to claim it was a part of his religion.

        (As far as I know, there’s no religion that mandates washing your clothes in shit.)

  • Anonymous

    Actually, its not fair to compare the OWS guys to the military. Definitely apples and (communist) oranges.How about comparing our fine class of overprivileged protesters to the protesters of the Arab spring that they are trying desperately to impersonate.

    One group sleeps outside to make a political point (somehow)
    The other group sleeps outside because that’s where they sleep.

    One group braves hostile gunfire from the police and military.
    The other jams their own feet under police scooters hoping for a photo op.

    One group screams racist screeds about the Jews.
    Ok, they both do that.

    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      While it’s not fair to the Military to compare the troops with these OWS scuzzballs, the fact remains that they both draw from the same population pool:

      1.  Both are from the same age cadres of the same generations.
      2.  Both are from the same socio-economic backgrounds (to the extent we can determine that for the OWS cretins).
      3.  Both have equivalent educational backgrounds (though majors and universities obviously vary).
      4.  Both are self selecting.

      The Armed Forces obviously did a far better job of recruiting and of vetting and training their recruits.

  • Anonymous

    It occurred to me that the guy crapping on the flag is damned fortunate to be living in a very rare time and place in history in which you can crap in public as a political statement without being tortured or beheaded. That alone should make a person of ordinary intelligence question whether it’s a good idea to advocate dismantling of the present system by taking a public dump.

  • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

    A resident libtard claims:

    Um, there have been veterans pictured at the OWS demonstrations.

    Um, given the left’s propensity for producing “Veterans” who are no such thing, I’ll invite you to produce evidence to support your assertion.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU5DQWQTTHTPO4A4ZYSL3AAV2U Adjoran

      He could probably find a few vets among the protestors, some of whom are being paid to be there.  That’s not the point.  The contrast you drew isn’t dependent on the OWS protests being 100% vet-free, that is a ridiculous assumption but typical of leftist diversionary tactics to obscure the truth. 

      Despite his usual posturing, Chico is  a radical leftist down the line – as evidenced by his frantic defenses of OWS radicals.  His poor monitor must need a spittle guard.

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        Adjoran,

        I doubt he could bestir himself to do so.  Evidence in support is something he demands of others, not something he himself produces on demand.

      • Anonymous

        Look, if I show any of the pictures of veterans at OWS out there, you’ll demand notarized DD-214s, so what’s the point?

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        Adjoran, why look, chicka is an OWSer…  Having been caught on the wrong side of accuracy so many times, he now declines to provide any evidence.

        “Forgive my multitudinous past lies” he cries, “accept the manifest truth of my position.”

    • herddog505

      It wouldn’t surprise me to know that there are vets amongst these loafers.  When I was going through AIT right before the first Gulf War, one of the fellows in my class BOASTED about the size of the anti-war protests in his hometown of Portland.  The rest of us looked at each other and wondered, “What the f*ck is he doing HERE?”
      The uniform doesn’t automatically convey virtue or even patriotism.  Witness that revolting little sh*t Bradley Manning.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, Chico!

    You have never answered my challenge from up-thread –

    You stated
    “This is a mass movement much larger than the Tea Party,…”

    I stated
    “Prove it.
    Links.
    Now. ”

    This is the second call on this matter. Show evidence where the OWS hooligans are larger in number than the Tea Party, or risk irrelevance in the OWS matter.

    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      @Sky__Captain:disqus when has chicka demonstrated relevance in any discussion?

      • Anonymous

        Point taken.

        But when a dumbass statement like that is made, I’d like to see Chic-O-Shit’s feet held to the fire.

        Of course, Chic-O-Shit will totally ignore it, proving the worthlessness of his statement.

        • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

          “Of course, Chic-O-Shit will totally ignore it, proving the worthlessness of his statement self.”

          FIFY

    • Anonymous

      This obvious point from a #OWS Tweet sums it up

      QuietNoiseTheresa

      RT @HinesJimmy: Tea Party – 2-3 hour rallies run home to watch The Wheel. #OWS 30 days straight – World Wide Support.

      OWS rallies in Madrid alone on October 15 turned out about 200,000. The Tea Party’s one big rally in DC was the product of relentless Glen Beck and Fox promotion.  Where are they now?

      • Anonymous

        That’s NOT a link or evidence, Commander_Irrelevant.
        That Twit is about Madrid, SPAIN – not in America where the Tea Party is. Attempting to compare different countries/cultures for your comparison is a pretty desperate ploy.
        Nice try. Thanks for playing – and losing.

        Where are Tea Party supporters now?
        At work.
        Watching the OWS protesters.
        Watching the Democrats and Obama throw their support behind the OWS “Bring Down America” agenda.

        November 2010 was a “restraining order” on Obama.
        In November 2012, the Tea Party will remind the likes of Commander_Loser just how irrelevant the OWS supporters really are.

      • Anonymous

        Commander_Irrelevant,

        You do realize that Twitter is the modern equivalent of the old gossip fence, right?

        “My neighbor 3 houses down the street went to a Tea Party in Springfield on April 15th and there must have been a million people there.”

        Credility zero.

      • Anonymous

        Commander_Irrelevant,

        You do realize that Twitter is the modern equivalent of the old gossip fence, right?

        “My neighbor 3 houses down the street went to a Tea Party in Springfield on April 15th and there must have been a million people there.”

        Credility zero.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

    Yep. Just like the petulant children in the Tea Party.

    Also all the people with legitimate gripes in both.

    God bless America – right?