NASA’s Hansen, vicar of the Church of Chicken Little, doubles down

James Hansen’s cash flow must be running a bit low:

StopGlobalWarmingA new investigation of the ancient climate record shows that time to stop climate change is running out — maybe sooner than scientists had thought.

That’s the message from an international team of scientists reporting today at the American Geophysical Union annual meeting in San Francisco (#AGU11 on Twitter).

James Hansen is director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, and was one of the scientists on the study. He says that even the accepted benchmark of a 2-degree Celsius rise (3.6 F) in temperature that might result from doubling of current carbon dioxide levels would have a much greater impact than was previously thought.

“Once the ice sheets begin to disintegrate, then you’ve got an unstable shoreline, which is going to be continuing to change over time,” said Hansen in a presentation to fellow scientists. “It would be a mess for those people living at that time to deal with. And it looks like that time will be this century.”

The team’s new examination of the paleo-climate record now shows that  ”a global warming of a couple degrees Celsius would basically create a different planet,” Hansen warned. It’s different than the one that humanity, that civilization knows about. If we look at the paleo record, the target of two degrees Celsius is actually a prescription for long-term disaster.”

The two-degree mark gets a lot of focus in both scientific and policy circles, as it’s emerged as the one clear benchmark for controlling warming that industrialized nations have been able to rally around.

Hansen says another measure of climate change deserves a second look in light of this new investigation: The atmospheric carbon reduction target of 350 parts per million (ppm) may not be enough. “It really should be somewhat less than that,” he told the gathering. “It’s necessary if we want to maintain stable ice sheets and shorelines.”

Hansen’s warning is based on his team’s finding that long-ago changes of less than two degrees in the Earth’s temperature resulted in oceans rising by about 25 meters (about 82 feet). Current science on global ice sheets concludes that they’re shedding ice, and the rate of that is increasing.

“We’ve got to slow down this experiment that we’re doing with the planet,” says Hansen, “because otherwise we’re leaving for young people a situation that’s going to be out of their control.”

The only way to avoid this disaster is to send more money Hansen’s way.  And stroke a check to Al Gore while you’re at it.  

Pay now or your children will die.  And their puppies.

You’ve been warned.

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  • Anonymous

    Go nuke, but go new technology nuke.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly, Thorium based nuclear reactors for all!

      It would also solve our problem with China’s hold on the rare earth metals supply.  US has large rare earth ore deposits, but they are mixed with Thorium ores.  Make a market for the Thorium and get the watermelons out of the way and we have both abundant electricity and rare earth metals. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Murphy/100001624276605 Ryan Murphy

      BUt your precious democrats would pitch a fit if you tried to use a technology that actually worked instead of wind and solar, which don’t.

      • Anonymous

        well to be fair the libs aren’t really crazy about wind if the turbines are within their view. If we can put them where only the little people have to see them ok.

  • herddog505

    The average global temp goes up 2degC and we’ve got “basically a new planet”.  I might actually buy that: there could be enough changes in sea level, ice coverage, snowfall, etc. that we’d actually notice.

    However, note the sly juxtaposition with CO2, which is NOT proved to be a driver of climate change.

    As you say, Hansen and the rest of the gorebots are doubling down.  They’ve been predicting global catastrophe for a couple of decade now, but – dang it! – the catastrophes just REFUSE TO COOPERATE.  We DIDN’T get the increasing number of record hurricanes in the Atlantic; snow stil falls in Britain; the ice pack and the cute polar bears are still around; New York City, Miami, Sydney, Hong Kong and other coastal cities are still with us.  But in a FEW MORE YEARS!!!

    Bah.

  • Anonymous

    OK Hanson you win, the earth is on FIRE now and we must shift all funding to finding new energy sources so your funding is done. We’re sending all the climate research funding to Exon to develop new energy technology. Thanks, good luck with your next scam… I mean endevor.

  • Anonymous

    Thorium Reactors?  Maybe if you can’t manage anything beyond Victorian England engineering, advanced cultures will use Pebble Bed Reactors.

    • Anonymous

      Advantages of Thorium is they can’t melt down and they do not produce Plutonium as a by product.  Since Plutonium is much simpler to refine than Uranium into a grade that can go boom, having to deal with oodles (to use the scientific term) of it presents problems.

      Then from a selfish US centric perspective, we have more Thorium ore than any place else on Earth.

      Just because the engineering is not cutting edge, does not make it bad.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t want to sidetrack the discussion, but I have to comment on the idiocy of that “not everyone can swim” poster. The polar bear is officially categorized as a marine mammal… like seals, walruses and whales.

    Credibility never comes to those who display their ignorance of reality. Their audience is limited to “true believers.”

    • herddog505

      SSSHHHH!!!!  Ix-nay at-thay olar-pay airs-bay an-kay im-sway!  I own stock on Coca Cola, and while the “white cans to save the polar bears” campaign didn’t go over so hot, there’s still lots of money to be made from selling Coke to ignorant rubes who think that polar bears are cute, fuzzy, playful, non-swimming critters who MUST be saved by people drinking more ice-cold, refreshing Coca Cola.

  • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

    To combine an idea from the next post on Friday’s document dump re Fast and Furious…

    Friday Document Dump:James Hansen:  Yeah, all this AGW crap was cranked up out of thick air.  Mann’s hockey stick gave me the idea that if I played it out right, I could end up a multi-millionaire by appealing to the environmental lobby… but I had to find the right hook.  So I called Al Gore (who isn’t the brightest bulb in the hall, IYKWIMAITYD) and told him he could get rich as hell selling these stupid ‘Carbon Credits’.  He was the one that came up with the polar bear on the ice floe.
     
    Hey, those suckers swim for miles, it’s not MY fault people think they don’t know how to swim.  Good picture, too, poor liddle polar bwear, gonna starve ’cause he can’t swim and he can’t catch seals! Hah.  They’re apex predators, dude.  They’ll go inland and munch on caribou and eskimos – they’ll survive.  Damn shame I bought so much of that Solyndra stock, though.  That’s why I’m doubling down on this shit – I’ve got to make my money back from the beating I took on Solyndra and those dumb carbon credits.  Gore got out of the scam at the right time to keep some of his dough.

    And you know what’s amazing to me?  There’s not been any rural warming in 10 years – they’re looking at cooling fer pete’s sake.  Urban heat islands have been hiding that – but the eco-minded people don’t care!  They’re not looking at anything that contradicts what they’ve been taught, God love ‘em.  They don’t question it at all!

    I wonder if I could hit ‘em up for $1000 each, to help combat (hah) ‘global warming’.  Gotta pay for that house in Phoenix somehow…

    Hey – wait… were you recording th* – transcript ends-

  • Anonymous

    On the main topic of this post, why does anyone believe that 2 C rise = 82 foot sea level rise.  Both the mideval warm period and the early Roman times had adverage global temperatures more than 2C above the current with much lower average ocean levels than current + 82 feet.

    • jim_m

      Come on man.  Everyone knows that England was totally under water during the middle ages.The vikings discovered Greelnand because they were looking for the British Isles and they couldn’t find them because they were under water.

      Sheesh!  Know your history.

    • herddog505

      I’m sorry: are you SERIOUSLY asking why anybody believes any of the garbage associated with AGW???

      Hansen, Jones, Mann, Gore and the rest of the con artists could tell people that a 2C rise in average global temp will cause spontanenous human combustion, knock the Earth out of its orbit, and bring the dead back to life and their army of dimwit followers would believe it.

      I can see the headlines now:

      “Scientists warn that rising global temps will cause people to burst into flame”

      “New data shows that global warming will push Earth into the Sun”

      “NASA: Climate change presents danger of zombie apocalypse”

      AGW is a religion, and there’s NOTHING that religious nuts won’t believe if their high priests tell them.

      • Anonymous

        Great comment, had me laughing out loud.

        However, the NY Times would have a slightly different take…

        “Scientists warn that rising global temps will cause people to burst into flame, Women and Minorities hardest hit”

      • Anonymous

        True and very funny, good job.

        • herddog505

          Thank you both.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll start believing in AGW when Al Gore starts ACTING like there’s AGW.  And his buying a house on the coast in Santa Barbara isn’t helping.

  • John H

    I can give you 1.2 million reasons why Hansen would double down. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/22/nasa-scientist-accused-using-celeb-status-among-environmental-groups-to-enrich/
    This is the gravy train for him and he isn’t likely to catch another one. So he will ride this one as far as he can. He is making good money in his day job and great money as a bonus making claims that he can’t back up with more than conjecture. And if you like the economy now, you will love the economy if anyone started listening to him and actually reduced CO2 emissions to have a chance of averting the disaster he claims. 
    Sorry charlie, you can convince liberals who lack critical thinking skills, but you can’t convince those of us who live in the real world.

  • Anonymous

    The SCIENCE is settled, you ignorant, unwashed heathen non-believers.
    /Crickmore

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEL6MKIDWFC7LIUHOFEFTKLXQA Stephen

    “James Hansen’s cash flow must be running a bit low:”

    Who’s paid him and how much was he paid?

  • http://www.wizbangblog.com David Robertson

    I am waiting for Hansen to make a specific prediction about what will happen to the climate during his lifetime. However, I am not holding my breath while I wait for him to do so.

  • Anonymous

    If the planet is going to continue getting warmer, then the united states has a moral imperative as a world leader, to begin a crash program designed to provide air conditioning to the third world.