Dan Rather Dies

At least, I hope he’s dead. And not out of any sense of malice — it’s just that what is going on at CBS would surely kill ol’ Gunga Dan. It seems that there are actual journalists committing acts of journalism over there, exposing some seriously major bad misdeeds by the Obama administration. And ol’ Dan would probably have about six major strokes if he was still affiliated with the network.

 

I have absolutely no idea how it happened, but suddenly The Tiffany Network is all over Operation Fast And Furious, landing some major body blows to the screen of pure bullshit the Obama administration has been throwing up to protect itself. And I’m developing a major crush on Sharyl Attkisson.

 

First up, she brings the story of US military aid to Mexico. We currently supply the Mexican government with a lot of military hardware, and it’s been ratcheted way up under Obama. But one thing the Obama administration doesn’t like to discuss is that the main source of weapons for the cartel is the Mexican military. Whether it’s through corruption or outright theft, that’s where the druggies get the majority of their weapons. By giving the Mexican military more and more weapons without working to make sure they actually stay in the hands of the military, all we’re achieving is pouring more and more guns into the hands of both sides — essentially guaranteeing even more blood will spill.

 

Next, she brings up a real black eye for the Obama administration and a boost to the anti-Obama conspiracy nuts by highlighting one e-mail that was not buried in last week’s document dump — an e-mail from an ATF official talking about how they can use Fast and Furious to argue for increased gun control.
In other words, this is almost literally a “smoking gun” for those conspiracy nuts who’ve been saying that the intent of F&F was to promote gun control.

 

Here’s how it worked: a straw buyer for the cartel wanted to buy several rifles at once from a gun dealer. The dealer, who would normally have been extremely suspicious, was instructed by the ATF to go ahead with the sale. The guns were sold, smuggled back into Mexico (quite possibly with the assistance of the ATF), turned over to the cartels, and promptly tossed into the pool of weapons they’ve been using to kill literally thousands of innocents every year. Now, once the guns have been captured and identified and traced, the ATF wants to use them as an argument to tighten up gun control laws by limiting how many guns can be bought at once, or even within a certain span of time. What they hope like hell that the smeared gun dealer keeps his mouth shut and doesn’t divulge how the only reason they made that sale in the first place was because the ATF told them to do it.

Ms. Attkisson’s work on this scandal is absolutely riveting. And while she’s utterly destroying the Obama’s incredibly thin tissue of lies about the whole story, she’s also giving credibility to the theories of the conspiracy nuts who’ve been trying to figure out just what was the reason. The idea that this was intended to help boost arguments for tougher gun control laws in the US just gota major boost with last week’s document dump. And my own recent notion — that the Obama administration is trying to curry favor with the cartels in anticipation of them overthrowing the Mexican government — is actually consistent with the first story.

 

Yeah, I’m calling those who talk about the “stealth gun control agenda” theory as “conspiracy nuts.” And I’m lumping myself in with them, with my own “helping the cartels overthrow the Mexican government” notion. But I stand by my earlier assertion: as crazy as these ideas sound, they’re still not as insane as the official story being promulgated by the Obama administration — or any of those pushed by the Obama apologists. Instead, all they have is obfuscation — find some way to blame it on Bush, downplay the whole story, or claim they’ve never even heard of it.

 

I’m going to have to revisit my earlier prediction that, of the current scandals wracking the Obama administration, Fast and Furious wouldn’t be the most damaging because it was simply too inexplicable. It’s still an incredibly twisted miasma, but it’s now getting so appalling that I think folks will reach the point I’m at — they simply won’t care about what the motives were.

 

As I’ve been saying all along — if Holder et. al want to explain just what they were hoping to achieve, let them tell it to a judge and jury. I just want to see that meeting take place.

 

Or, there’s always the possibility of simply extraditing the folks behind Fast and Furious to Mexico, where they can make the same case. I hope their lawyers can speak Spanish…

 


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  • Anonymous

    How coud they actually believe that the gun dealers would stay quiet? Maybe one or two could be intimidated,but it seems like there were a lot of dealers involved.
    It is almost funny how stupid and incompetent the operation was. Just about any theory you can dream up seems somehow plausible.

    • Anonymous

      “How could they actually believe that the gun dealers would stay quiet?”

      Just like the banks being forced to make loans that they know from past experience are bad.

      “Nice business ya got here.  Be a crying shame should something happen to it.  Ever have a “regulatory audit”?  Those can take a loooooong time.  In the interim, we’ll just have to close you down.  All in the interest of the public good, of course.”

    • retired.military

      “How coud they actually believe that the gun dealers would stay quiet”

      6 letters

      G-I-B-S-O-N

  • Anonymous

    “It is almost funny how stupid and incompetent the operation was. Just about any theory you can dream up seems somehow plausible”.  Hatched by a stupid and incompetent administration.

  • Anonymous

    So they (the Obama administration, DOJ, FBI, etc) were willing to let innocent people die to further their goal of increased gun control.

    Seems kinda hard to ignore this but aside from CBS, incredibly enough, the MSM is managing to do just that.

    I so loathe the MSM.

    • Anonymous

      Hank – you forget the MSM’s motto.  “We don’t report it, it didn’t happen!”

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think it’s correct to say that CBS is reporting it. Sharyl Attkisson is reporting it, and from what I’ve read it sounds like to some degree she dragged CBS to the table (kicking and screaming no doubt). My own impression is that if Attkinsson were not there the digging/investigation/stories would end immediately.

      If anyone has information to the contrary I’d love to hear it.

      • Anonymous

        Pulitzer lust > Political considerations?

        Thank goodness for those who will break from the herd no matter what the true motivation.

        No matter how or why the story is breaking into the MSM, the important thing is that it is breaking.  Finally.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7YIUZMXOD5JGZZTCYMVA75KFU Shadow

    As some of the new documents show this was an attempt to ratchet up support for gun control in The U.S.   If true, this is not incompetence or stupidity.  Everyone who knew or was involved in this is guilty of a deliberate act of treason against The United States.  Even if they are incompetent and stupid, they are committing crimes.  It is the responsibility of Congress to bring them to justice.  We cannot trust Holder and Obama’s “Just Us” department, who are probably up to their necks in this, to do more than dismiss a few lackeys. 

    Liberals try to claim the means are justified by the outcome.  Well the outcome of this is atrocious, people died in Mexico and The U.S.

    • jim_m

      Liberals don’t care about brown skinned people dying in foreign nations (unless they can blame the US for it and they only blame the US when there is a GOP President).

  • Anonymous

    The feds are out of control.  I would not be surprised if there were kickbacks from the gun sellers, buyers, and ultimate customers to those who started this crazy program.

    I don’t look for tin-hat conspiracies to overthrow governments, just old-fashioned greed and graft.

    • jim_m

      There were no kickbacks from the sellers.  The internal ATF emails show that the sellers were pleading for letters from the ATF confirming that they were selling he guns under orders from the ATF.  The sellers were living in fear that the ATF would turn around and hold them responsible for the sales.

      As it turns out the sellers were correct because the ATF emails also show that the bureau was planning to issue a demand letter imposing new restrictions on sellers using the gun walker scam as a pretext.

      If you are looking for graft I would look at the newly disclosed issue of the DEA laundering money for the drug cartels.  That sounds like fertile ground for skimming a few bucks for the feds.

      • Anonymous

        That is excruciatingly correct. The BATFE told the dealers explicitly that they were to let known felons purchase multiple weapons.
         
        “Apparently, this same goal of dismantling Mexican drug cartels motivated the Drug Enforcement Administration in aiding and abetting [the] same cartels in laundering millions of dollars in cash. In fact, the New York Times reports that agents needed to seek Department approval to launder amounts great than $10 million in any single operation. Officials quoted in the story said this $10 million cap was more of a guideline than a rule, noting it has apparently been waived on many occasions to “attract the interest of high value targets.” 

        Rep. Issa stated “These allegations, if true, raise further unsettling questions about a Department of Justice component engaging in a high-risk strategy with scant evidence of success. Specifically, they raise questions about “the [DEA’s] effectiveness in bringing down drug kingpins, underscore diplomatic concerns about Mexican sovereignty, and blur the line between surveillance and facilitating crime.”

      • Anonymous

        The emails are called CYA.

    • jim_m

      As for “tin-hat conspiracies”, I don’t see the admin doing gunwalker explicitly to destabilize a foreign government.  I see the destabilization of governments that obama disfavors merely as a value added feature.

      • Anonymous

        Let’s not forget that Obama himself, in an interview after (I think) the Heller decision came down said his administration would not be pushing for new legislation. He said their efforts going forward would be, “off the radar.”

    • retired.military

      But you will still vote for Obama whose buddies pulled this off.  And come Jan of 2013  Holderer will have a brand new Presidential pardon in hand.  Along with Rahm, blago and a few others.

  • Anonymous

    So when will Mexico grow a set and start filing charges against the Obama Administration.  I’m sure the World Court would be more than willing to lend a friendly ear.

    All the current corrupt administration has done is try to down-play and minimize the whole sordid affair.

    “Bush did it to!” – another bold faced fucking LIE!  That administration notified the Mexican government of what it was doing, and STOPPED the weapons from crossing the border.  Arrests were made as soon as the weapons changed hands.

    • jim_m

      How about “When will Amnesty Int’l grow a set and charge the obama administration with human rights violations?”

      Right now they’re too busy trying to push bogus war crimes charges on George Bush while they ignore the real crimes of obama.  Par for the course.

      • Anonymous

        My gut feeling is that Mexico doesn’t want to rock the boat.  Barry is laying off deportations unless there is some ‘criminal’ conduct other than violating immigration laws.  Those illegals are Mexico’s biggest source of foreign dollars, only surpassed by oil exports.  So what if a large number of your own people are killed off at home.  Gotta keep the money coming.

        • Anonymous

          Yea, but if we start exporting folks to Mexico cause its cheaper to send and support welfare parasites there, Mexico could develop a new economy, the cartels would reduce costs, and our border would only have to be secured against ex-Americans trying to sneak back in…

          • Anonymous

            How about old people on SS and disabled veterans, too?  After all, they aren’t contributing.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEL6MKIDWFC7LIUHOFEFTKLXQA Stephen

            Why bother shipping old people anywhere? Just kill them off. They are a burden on the wealthy 1% job creators…

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/YSM6XGIY2CLRQKYDB746ZVVUUI Texas Accountant

            Yeah!  Maybe we should pass a health care law in which we deny medical treatment to people who are too old!  That’ll do the trick!

          • jim_m

            Why bother shipping old people anywhere? Just kill them off.

            That’s called obamacare.

          • Anonymous

            You sure you want to go down that path?
            Old people play for keeps.

          • Anonymous

            You must have missed my solution to illegal immigration on another thread. I won’t go into the details again.  However most older folks and disabled veterans who want to do move to Mexico or Costa Rico because its cheaper.  And many of them do contribute still to their communities.  Now the folks who just want to collect their welfare and smoke their medical marijuana, that’s another story.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU5DQWQTTHTPO4A4ZYSL3AAV2U Adjoran

      Actually the Bush-era program did try to track the weapons to the border, but couldn’t do it with any reasonable rate of success, so they stopped the program.

      The Obama-Holder program never attempted to track the guns at all until they showed up in drug raids or at crime scenes.  While I hate to go with a wild-sounding theory that Obama knew the result would be violence back in this country which he hoped to use as a pretext for gun control, it is hard to envision any other purpose for this program.

      What did they hope to achieve?  What even could possibly BE achieved?

      Which is what raised the suspicions which led to the investigations in the first place.  Ideas this bad just have to come from Washington.

  • http://twitter.com/chp3871 chp3871

    Jay Tea;
    I REALLY, REALLY admire Sharyl Attkisson. None of the other lap-dog, Obama stenographers DARE to print something adverse to Obama & CO. 

    • jim_m

      My prediction: Attkisson will be looking for a new job soon.  A pink slip is likely to be her Christmas present from CBS.

      • Anonymous

        jim_m, you know I like you. But man, are you totally off base here. Getting fired by CBS could be the best thing that ever happens to her.

        1) Bernie Goldberg, late of CBS, gets in touch with her and hooks her up with Andrew Breitbart. Breitbart lets her write and publish her side of why she was canned.

        2) Goldberg and/or Breitbart then hook her up with a publisher, and she scores a major book deal.

        3) Three words: “Fox News Correspondent.” No, four words: “Fox News Special Correspondent.”

        Don’t get me wrong — I hope she stays with CBS as long as she wishes, and right now she’s their highest-profile reporter outside of Loony Leftist Land. She’s doing a lot to promote their reputation. They should back her to the hilt for as long as she keeps producing. But if they get an attack of the politically correct stupids and can her, then she can write her own ticket.

        J.

        • jim_m

          I see your point. CBS will just keep her to shut her up. That’s possible. But I also believe that there is an NPR like ideological rigidity that will demand her removal.

          Even soo you are correct that she is the one link they have to journalistic credibility. Is that something they really want?

        • Anonymous

           I think CBS pays better than Breitbart. 

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, Chico, but none of the things I said are mutually exclusive. You wanna bet on whether CBS pays better than Breitbart, Fox, and a book publisher combined?

            Breitbart for the quick turnaround on getting her side of the story out and her name fresh. Book deal for the full story and hefty advance. Then, Fox for steady income.

            It’s gold, Chico! I tell you, it’s gold!

            J.

          • Anonymous

            Pfft, Bernie Goldberg rode that train to nowheresville.

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/YSM6XGIY2CLRQKYDB746ZVVUUI Texas Accountant

            Commandante,

            Who is his replacement?  At least we know who Bernie Goldberg is.

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU5DQWQTTHTPO4A4ZYSL3AAV2U Adjoran

          The thing is, she may not be all that great an investigative reporter.  She was young with junior status on weekend duty.  Her story slipped through the normal filters, then the cat was out of the bag and CBS couldn’t stop the follow-ups. 

          But all she really did was get the word out there to the “legacy media” audience, break the barrier.  She got a tip.  She acted on it and reported what she found.  If the regular weekend editor was on duty when that first one slipped through, I’d be shocked.  He was out sick or had somebody else supposedly covering for him.

          • Anonymous

            Gee, that sounds an awful lot like how Woodward and Bernstein got onto Watergate…

            J.

      • Anonymous

           She is no doubt getting a lot of indirect and direct heat from the insulated, lefty hive bubble at CBS.
           She is about to be ushered into the world of Sarah Palin and Joe “the plumber”.

      • PBunyan

        I don’t think CBS would ever fire her.  There is no way the Obama regime wants the kind of attention given to Fast and Furious that the right wing media/blog storm her firing would cause so there’s no way they’d let CBS do it.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU5DQWQTTHTPO4A4ZYSL3AAV2U Adjoran

      It was probably a lack of “editorial oversight” that let her first story through, but the reaction had to be noticed.  The old media is in the tank for the Democrats and Obama, but they also love a good scandal that will bring them notoriety.  Once the blood is in the water and somebody begins reporting it, others have to start investigating it too, or lose more credibility (and the supply rapidly dwindles).

  • Anonymous

    I can’t wait for the old canards of ‘plausible denyability’ and ‘limited hangout’ start getting bandied about. Eric Holder’s ass is in the grinder and it’s only a matter of time before he and a few more people well connected to the scandal suddenly find that it has blown up in their faces and that the end result is they will either be spending time in the Big House here or quite possibly Mexico.

    I can’t wait…

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to see one or more of the repub candidates bring this subject up in a debate.

    • Anonymous

      They should all bring it up and refuse to talk about anything else until Obumma is removed from office.

  • JustRuss

    My prediction:  To avoid an impeachment Obama will step down and be pardoned by Biden just in time to let Hillary run (because everyone knows nobody would vote for Sheriff Joe).  Obama will then seek out Secretary General of the UN as his next office.

    • Oysteria

      I already beat you to that one Russ, a long time ago.  I said this is just another stepping stone for Obama to become Secretary General of the UN.  There, he can bash the US to his heart’s content around like minded people.

      • Anonymous

        More importantly he can divide Israel for the brotherhood.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEL6MKIDWFC7LIUHOFEFTKLXQA Stephen

          Cause Obama is muslim, you all knew that, right?

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/YSM6XGIY2CLRQKYDB746ZVVUUI Texas Accountant

            No Stephen you are wrong.  He is either a member of a “Black Liberation Church” or he was using that as a political prop and he is really an atheist.  Your choice.

          • Anonymous

            I vote for atheist. That’s what good Commies are.

          • Anonymous

            Well, he sure left a “christian’ church in a hurry when the true nature of his beliefs were being exposed.  Bankrupting the country and losing millions of jobs while he plays golf and enriches himself at our expense is very un christian of him..

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I’m calling those who talk about the “stealth gun control agenda” theory as “conspiracy nuts.”

    Don’t forget JT, the funding for what became F&F was in the “Stimulus” bill to the tune of $6 million dollars.  Couple that with the euphoria after the 2008 elections.  Conservatism was DEAD.  The Democrats would RULE for the next generation.  Never let a good crisis go to waste.  The ends always justify the means.  This administration wasn’t counting on the 2010 elections.  And certainly not counting on Republicans looking over their shoulders and into things like Solyndra and Fast & Furious.  Hell, they didn’t even bother reading the legislation they passed!

  • PBunyan

    J.T., your use of the term “conspiracy nut” is so tiring and inappropriate.  Yes, there are conspiracy nuts out there, but there are also real conspiracies out there, too, and your lumping everyone who believes in any conspiracy into a group of “nuts” is not only harmful, but downright dangerous.  You are doing the bidding of forces of evil (i.e. Cass Sunstein & the rest of the Obama regime).

    Hell, Obama’s entire political career, from its start in his fellow Communist’s (Bill Ayers) home through his campaigns for state representative, U.S. Senate and onto being President has been a well documented, factually proven, conspiracy.  That they would conspire to create false pretenses and use them to achieve their repeatedly stated goal of undermining the 2nd Amendment is not only not a “nutty” thing to believe, but in fact the most intelligent conclusion one can reach based on the history of the members of the Obama regime and all the facts in evidence.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEL6MKIDWFC7LIUHOFEFTKLXQA Stephen

      Pass the tin-foil.

      • jim_m

        Scary but I have to agree with steve(yuk) that obama’s political career is not the result of a conspiracy.

        Sure, they have concealed his communist upbringing and associations and a compliant media has sheltered him from that truth and the fact of his complete inexperience and ineptitude.

        obama’s presidency is less a conspiracy and more of a crime of opportunity.

        • Anonymous

          Well there was a “conspiracy” of sorts (two or more acting in concert) to get Barry his senate seat.  Seems they decided in Illinois that it was time for a Black senator.  But who to push?  So they cast about the legislature and came upon one Barack Obama.  Lawyer (w/o practicing law), ‘community organizer’, street cred via Wright’s Church of Hate, land a guy who went out of his way to avoid taking stands or making decisions that might piss someone off.   But Barry had no track record, other than voting PRESENT!  So the Brothers went to the other Brothers in the legislature and had them delete their names as writers/sponsors of legislation that had already been passed.  All this being sold as ‘for the cause’.  The Brothers grumbled, but they did it.  Thus the meteoric rise of an incompetent back-bench buffoon.  2 years in the senate, doing nothing; not even holding meetings of the subcommittee he was assigned.  Followed by two years of campaigning, aided and abetted by a liberal media thirsting for an “historic moment”.  Yeah, capped by Brian Williams saying “We don’t know much about him, do we?”  No shit Williams.  Because you and your liberal asshole friends didn’t do your job.  You spent more time raking a VP candidate over the coals that you did one Barrack Obama.

          • jim_m

            Illinois had already had a Black Senator having elected Carol Mosely-Braun in 1993.

            Barry’s only track record in the Illinois Senate was bottling up moderate legislation in committee.  He kept the Born Alive Infant Protection act stuck in committee until he left.  Once he was out the Dem controlled Senate passed the anti-infanticide law and the Dem Governor signed it.

            But it is true that he won his Illinois Senate seat by running unopposed after forcing his opponents off the ballot, and it is true that he won his US Senate race after the GOP candidate dropped out after his court sealed divorce papers mysteriously became unsealed and the details of a bitter divorce became public.

            The only ‘conspiracy’ is the routine aiding and abetting of extreme leftist candidates by the media.

          • PBunyan

            “The only ‘conspiracy’ is the routine aiding and abetting of extreme leftist candidates by the media”

            That was exactly my point, and that is by definition a conspiracy.  “Journolist” is a conspiracy by definition.

      • Anonymous

        …and as if on cue!

        Then, Stephen, feel free to offer up an explanation that is LESS crazy than 1) the ones by us conspiracy nuts, and B) the ones already floated by the Obama/Holder Justice Department. ‘Cuz their excuses are even more loony than what I’ve spelled out.

        J.

      • Anonymous

        Stephen -

        The current viable hypotheses that explain all of the known F&F information:

        1) The Justice department in general and the BATF in particular is controlled by criminally reckless idiots that thought they could bust drug cartel leaders by sending guns across the border that they did not track after crossing said border.
        2) That sending large numbers of untracked guns to arm the Mexican Drug Cartels to ratchet up pressure for more gun control legislation and/or destabilize the current Mexican government while currying favor with the next Mexican governement (ie the Cartels).

        Present a plausible alternative hypothesis that fits all of the known data, pick one of the above, or STFU

        • Anonymous

          STFU, is Stephens wisest course.. And the least likely followed.

      • Anonymous

        Is that code for…Pass the one hitter?

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU5DQWQTTHTPO4A4ZYSL3AAV2U Adjoran

        PBunyan may have a stash, but that doesn’t mean his comment here is untrue.  It’s a stretch to conclude conspiracy in Obama’s whole career, but there are some very unusual things.  A recent graduate with no accomplishments or notoriety gets a major publishing house to front him money for his autobiography?  And another deal as well, before he was 45?

        And it wasn’t “conspiracy” to elevate him to the Senate.  Emil Jones, Illinois Senate President, openly stated as much when Senators who had worked on major bills found their names demoted or dropped in favor of Obama, who hadn’t worked on the bills at all.  He was building a legislative record for a guy so indecisive as to vote PRESENT at least 130 times.

        You have to admit he went very far very fast for a guy who never actually did anything.

    • Anonymous

      Garand, PB, I’m using the term now in a strategic and sarcastic sense. Hell, I’m even calling myself one at this point. I’m trying to take away one of the Obama defenders’ primary deflective tactics — “yeah, they’re conspiracy nuts. But they’re STILL making more sense than you are. Give me a story that is less crazy than the nuts are coming up with, and I’ll dismiss them.”

      I probably should have been a bit clearer on that point…

      J.

      • PBunyan

        Oh I’ve gotten that all along, I just don’t like it is all.

  • http://www.rustedsky.net Anonymous

    Well, he ain’t dead yet!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather

    Might be pinin’ for the fjords, though…

  • http://www.facebook.com/Stan25 Stan Brewer

    What about that couple that was chased across that lake that straddles the US-Mexican border? The one where the guy was shot off his jet ski? Could this homicide be linked to “Operation Fast % Furious? Maybe. Time will tell. There is a lot more to this scandal than what has been unearthed so far. As they say, they have just seen the tip of the iceberg and what is under is going to get ugly fast.

  • Anonymous

    This mornings “hearings”, at moments, were absolutely out of Alice In Wonderland.

    I give you Rep. Judy Chu (asshole Democrat).

    Rep. Judy Chu applauded Holder for
    his work in support of voters’ rights.

    Can you say “New Black Panther
    Party intimidation case”?

    • Anonymous

      I’m sure Barry will be similarly applauded for human rights work in the middle east and being a uniter not divider here at home when his ass is  kicked from office. Probably given another Nobel for accepting King of the UN position and for all his AIDS work in Africa too..

      The denial with the libs is unfathomable.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s another one:  Corzine; “I don’t know where the money is?”   Must be in unicorn-land along with hope and change, most ethical administration and jobs creation? Right John?

  • Anonymous

    If we’re throwing out conspiracy ideas, how about the possible connection of these dots:

    Why would someone help drug cartels get guns through more than one indirect channel (i.e., through the Mexican military and Fast and Furious)?

    Why would someone help to launder lots of money for the drug cartels?

    • herddog505

      Because Barry and Co. are PhD graduates of the Chicago School of Politics and this sort of corruption is and has been to CSP what the study of law is to Harvard, the study of physics is to MIT, or the study of academic fraud is to UNC, i.e. it’s what they DO?

    • PBunyan

      “Why would someone help to launder lots of money for the drug cartels?”

      I would not be surprised at all if some of it was going into the Obama 2012 campaign. 

    • Anonymous

      Ask the Sons of Anarchy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q6DL245AVVGQXIOZ3CLCINRIWY Brian

    Obama’s version of Iran/Contra?

  • Anonymous

    “Why would someone help to launder lots of money for the drug cartels?”

    Why would someone leave a church after 20 years and prefer to golf instead of do a job? Perhaps they are just a low life jive talkin’ street hustler that prefers to hide from sunlight but cannot resist the inner demons temptation of free money.

  • retired.military

    When the ATTY General says “‘Lying, ‘Has to Do With Your State of Mind’”

    You know that someone is lying.
    It depends on the meaning of what the word IS IS.

    • jim_m

      What he meant to say was “Lying has to do with your party affiliation.”

      Republicans lie.  Democrats have nuance.

  • Anonymous

    Add this to the conspiracy theory – how could the US possibly send 18+ million illegals back to Mexico to a war zone?  How terrible, I guess we will have to grant them amnesty as well as those who can make it across the border in the future.  We can call them refugees.  (Cuba anyone?)  Look for an increase in democratic voter registration booths to increase on the border states.

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