“Beware, America. The Muslims are coming, and they look and act suspiciously like you.”

That’s the opening line from a WaPo piece announcing an Arab-American comedy tour aimed at combating what the comics are calling Islamophobia.

Hmmm.

When I see any accusatory word whose suffix is phobia, I’m immediately suspicious.  Usually those throwing such words about are those who are also throwing an agenda at us.

But I digress… let’s first excerpt the piece:

MuslimsAreComingNegin Farsad, an Iranian American stand-up comic from California, wears eye-catching mini dresses, curses liberally and has awkward sex talks with her mother (though hers sound more like alien encounters. Actual quote: “You had intergender flesh relations without the security of external safety product?”).

Such conversations, painfully private in traditional Muslim societies, are public fodder for Farsad and three other Gen X and Gen Y Muslim comics with whom she traveled to the deep South this past summer.

The tour, which later extended to Western states and included other Muslim comics, will form the backbone of “The Muslims Are Coming!,” a documentary film about Islamophobia in America that Farsad is working on with Palestinian Italian American comedian Dean Obeidallah.

The documentary, which includes interviews with comics such as Jon Stewart and Louis Black and commentators including CNN’s Soledad O’Brien, explores freedom of religion and what it means to be a minority in America.

Muslim American stand-up comedy is a relatively new phenomenon, the domain of second-generation immigrants who are American enough to satirize the Muslim American experience, said Obeidallah, who lives in New York City.

“We’re confident enough to do this,” he said. “An immigrant would be less confident to use comedy to try to challenge perceptions of who we are. We’re confident enough in being Americans and knowing what that means, that we can push against those who are exhibiting behavior which is less than consistent with the values of this nation.”

Maysoon Zayid, one of the comics on the tour, said people were surprised to see that “I’m such a Jersey girl, I’m so accessible. . . . I think they are really surprised that I wasn’t this oppressed woman trying to convert people.”

The comedians acknowledged that they were unlikely to win the hearts of the most fervent anti-Muslim types.

“A show called ‘The Muslims Are Coming’ — people self-select to come see it,” Farsad said. “We’re never going to be able to touch the extreme haters. . . . We’re trying to affect the people in the middle, people with questions, the ‘persuadables.’ ” 

Call me a curmedgeon but I’m not buying what’s being sold here.  For a number of reasons.  We could start with a definition of terms, the first and foremost needed being the one for Islamophobia.  We might then define who these comics think are the extreme haters, and who the ‘persuadables’ might be.  In other words, do what the WaPo failed to do and ask tough questions.

Since the piece broke, Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch attempted to do just that of Dean Obeidallah and enter into what he hoped would be an honest dialog over the tour and its purpose. 

It didn’t go well. 

Mr. Obeidalla refused to answer his questions, citing his busy schedule.  He also threatened to sue Mr. Spencer.   

It’s at this point thinking people would wonder what questions could be so egregious as to garner such a reaction.  From Mr. Spencer’s post, here they are:

1. True or false: No comedy show, no matter how clever or winning, is going to eradicate the suspicion that many Americans have of Muslims. This is because Americans are concerned about Islam not because of the work of greasy Islamophobes, but because of Naser Abdo, the would-be second Fort Hood jihad mass murderer; and Khalid Aldawsari, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Lubbock, Texas; and Muhammad Hussain, the would-be jihad bomber in Baltimore; and Mohamed Mohamud, the would-be jihad bomber in Portland; and Faisal Shahzad, the would-be Times Square jihad mass-murderer; and Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, the Arkansas military recruiting station jihad murderer; and Naveed Haq, the jihad mass murderer at the Jewish Community Center in Seattle; and Mohammed Reza Taheri-Azar, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Chapel Hill, North Carolina; Ahmed Ferhani and Mohamed Mamdouh, who hatched a jihad plot to blow up a Manhattan synagogue; and Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the would-be Christmas airplane jihad bomber; and many others like them who have plotted and/or committed mass murder in the name of Islam and motivated by its texts and teachings — all in the U.S. in the last couple of years.

2. True or false: The fact that there are other Muslims not fighting jihad is just great, but it doesn’t mean that the jihad isn’t happening. This comedy show simply doesn’t address the problem of jihad terrorism and Islamic supremacism.

3. What do you make of the fact that Islamic supremacists from the Muslim Brotherhood invented the term “Islamophobia” in order to deflect attention away from jihad violence and Islamic supremacism, and intimidate opponents thereof?

4. What do you have to say about the fact that FBI statistics show that there is no “Islamophobia”?

5. What do you have to say about the fact that many “anti-Muslim hate crimes” have been faked by Muslims, and that Jews are eight times more likely than Muslims to be the victims of hate attacks.

6. True or false? Since the Muslim Brotherhood is dedicated in its own words to “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within,” one easy way to do that would be to guilt-trip non-Muslims into being ashamed of resisting jihad activity and Islamic supremacism, for fear of being accused of “Islamophobia.”

7. True or false: Negin Farsad, with her “eye-catching mini dresses,” etc., has more to worry about from observant Muslims than she does from “Islamophobes.”

8. What do you think of this: When you call [Pam] Geller [of the blog Atlas Shrugs] (and by implication, me) a “Muslim hater,” I believe that you are ascribing people’s legitimate concerns about jihad and Islamic supremacism to “hate,” and that the only effect of this will be to make people who have those legitimate concerns to be even more suspicious of Muslims, which will only lead to more of what you call “Islamophobia.”

9. Is there a plan behind your demonizing and smearing of all anti-jihadists? Do you want to create “Islamophobia” in order to claim privileged victim status for Muslims and exempt them from reasonable law enforcement scrutiny?

10. What kind of work have you done to raise awareness about the escalating persecution of non-Muslim minorities in Muslim societies, which is far worse in Egypt, Pakistan and elsewhere than Muslims have it here? Why not?

11. On what basis do you imply that those who are defending freedom against jihad are “exhibiting behavior which is less than consistent with the values of this nation”? What have you done to resist the Muslim Brotherhood’s stated agenda of “sabotaging” this nation “from within”?

12. Aside from the murder of a Sikh by an idiot shortly after 9/11, what evidence do you have of any backlash against Muslims to which you refer so off-handedly in the WaPo? Where are Muslims suffering violence, discrimination, harassment of any kind? Even you expected far worse than you got when you went to the South — and the level of harassment you did get was no worse than what I get in my email every day. So why the overblown claims about it?

13. And yes, what do you think about these recommendations?

There’s much more, including links to other posts for additional context. 

Why wouldn’t Dean Obeidallah answer the questions?  Might he have passed them on to others on tour with him to answer or would they also refuse?  Is there anyone out there supporting this tour willing to answer the questions?  I’d be willing to give them a forum here to do so.

The lesson seems clear to me, an apparent Islamophobe by extension who has also been branded a homophobe, a bigot, a fascist and other terms by those more interested in propagandizing the masses than deal with the substance of their accusations.

Be leery, be most leery, of the phobiaphobes.  Be especially leery of those who love to talk about the need for tolerance while being most intolerant.

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  • Stephen

    Unbelievably biased, bigoted and un-American.

    Freedom of religion in our country is in danger, thanks to Christian extremists.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU5DQWQTTHTPO4A4ZYSL3AAV2U Adjoran

      You take stupidity to new levels.

      • Stephen

        And are you taking the bet or not? Quit wussing out, adjoran.

      • Anonymous

        Wrong, 
        He gives stupidity a bad name.

    • Anonymous

      Your vapid response shows all the signs of a public education where you slept through all the Civics classes and a good portion of the English classes.

      • Anonymous

        Y pai attnshun wen u no all de asirs?

    • Anonymous

      The stoopid is undeniable with Stephene

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/YSM6XGIY2CLRQKYDB746ZVVUUI Texas Accountant

    Stepehen has an unbelievably ignorant comment.  “Freedom of religion” in the Constitution refers to government sanction or interference of religious activities.  How is anything in this post alluding to government intervention in anyone’s religious practices?

    • Anonymous

      The extra “e” stands for egnorant

    • Stephen

      Who referenced the Constitution, fathead? Certainly not me. (and this goes for all of you fatheads, not just the Texas asshole)

      Freedom of religion in our country is in danger, thanks to Christian extremists.

      I meant exactly what I wrote. These morons cant’ read plain, simple English.

      I’m not referring to Constituional rights, I’m referring to the freedom of religion in our county – the freedom to practice your religion without prosecution from Christian haters and assholes who are scared shitless by Muslims.

      And if one of the Christian extremists gets into the white house – say a Bachmann or Santorum – then this country is in real trouble.

      • jim_m

        Seriously?  Do you not know that freedom of religion is guaranteed by  the Constitution?  Do you not understand that when you say that freedom of religion is being threatened you are saying that a Constitutional right is being threatened?

        You really area moron.

        • Stephen

          Yeah, it’s plain simple english. I wasn’t referencing a constitutional right or I would have said so.

          Here, let me make it simple enough for even a simpleton like jimm to understand.

          Freedom of religion in our country is in danger, thanks to Christian extremists.

          The context? The poster says ““Beware, America. The Muslims are coming, and they look and act suspiciously like you.”

          Beware? We need ot beware of muslims that look like us?

          Christian extremists think we have something to fear when “muslims are coming and they look like everybody else”.

          That’s dangerous, and if conservative extremists gain the WH the persecution of “muslims that look like us” is virtually assured.

          I love having to explain simple concepts to conservatives like jimm. It proves how utterly stupid he is. It’s constantly amazing to witness the 3rd grade education of jimm and the others so proudly on display.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU5DQWQTTHTPO4A4ZYSL3AAV2U Adjoran

    Great that WaPo is on board the PC train, but aren’t they supposed to be a NEWSpaper?  So why in all their stories have they never told us the Christmas Day massacre in Texas was essentially an honor killing by a muslim father distressed that his 18 year old daughter was dating an infidel and despite his efforts to control her, her mother and brother helped her evade his domination?

    I see no mention of the details of this crime – or others.  It’s basically being covered up by the media so lying jackasses like Chico can then claim, “But there are no honor killings in America!”

    To you filthy leftist apologists:  may the next peace-loving muslim terrorist get your family instead of a decent person’s.

  • http://otisthehand.blogspot.com/ OTIS the hand

    Silence! I keel you!

  • Anonymous

    That article is gonna leave a mark…

  • Anonymous

    Given the tenor of the questions, I would have been shocked if they were answered.  And so ould Spencer.  Even though I think most of his points are correct, he was tossing a grenade and trying to call it a game of hot potato.

    And Stephen once again proves he can never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity to make a cogent or valid point.

    • herddog505

      SCSIwuzzyGiven the tenor of the questions, I would have been shocked if they were answered… Even though I think most of his points are correct, he was tossing a grenade and trying to call it a game of hot potato.

      I agree.  They had the tenor of “when did you stop beating your wife?” Question #10 was especially off the mark.  Yes, there is extreme persecution of non-Muslims in some Muslim countries, but that’s not really the point that the comics (rightly or wrongly) are trying to make.

      • Anonymous

        They may or may not be trying to do that but by just starting the tour in the ‘Deep South’ shows a malignant belief in the ‘Southerner’s are all racist bigots that hate anyone that isn’t white’ stereotype that has persisted for years.

        Yes, we don’t like radical Muslims one damn bit and will shoot them like rabid dogs but Muslims in general are tolerated. Its just like anything else around here, don’t try and force it down our throat and you’ll get by but when push comes to shove, we shoot.

    • Anonymous

      I have to agree.  That list of questions read more like a discovery pleading than an attempt at “dialogue.”   

    • Oysteria

      Agreed here too. The only legitimate question was: 7. True or false: Negin Farsad, with her “eye-catching mini dresses,” etc., has more to worry about from observant Muslims than she does from “Islamophobes.”

      And what the hell is wrong with Discus? Comments won’t even load at work because there’s an issue with their certificate – and even here at home I can’t leave a comment until I relaod the page a couple times (and I’m logged in too)

      • Anonymous

        Dunno what the page problem is. I’ve been watching it do the ‘You can’t edit you own comments’ thing at work along with the pop up about the page wanting ‘additional information click yes/no to allow’ and just generally SLOW loading and performance issues. Frankly its a pain in the ass.

    • Anonymous

      Agree.  They’re not about eliciting information, but about furthering the querent’s agenda.

  • herddog505

    I appreciate that it must really, really suck to have to bear suspicious looks when one is in public and ESPECIALLY when one gets on a plane or train, but hysterical claims of “islamophobia” seem pretty thin to me. 

    However, I must say that a comedy tour is not such a bad idea so long as it isn’t really some sort of heavy-handed guilt-trip tour. 

    True or false: Negin Farsad, with her “eye-catching mini dresses,” etc., has more to worry about from observant Muslims than she does from “Islamophobes.”

    That’s going to leave a mark.

    • Anonymous

      FYI the answer to the question about Negin is false. I’m the other girl on the tour and his claim is utter nonsense. I have also toured extensivelyin the Arab world. Not everywhere is Saudi.

      • herddog505

        Thank you very much for your comment.  This sort of information is very interesting.  I suggest that, to most Americans, the entire Middle East is like Saudi Arabia, i.e nothing but desert, camels, and religious lunatics.  This view is reinforced by what we see in the news, especially out of Egypt these days.

        Funny coincidence: my brother was a peacekeeper in Bosnia, and he was surprised to see a man he KNEW to be Muslim drinking beer.  Since he was moderately well-acquainted with him, he asked, “I thought Muslims are not allowed to drink.”

        The response: “We’re not in Saudi.”

        • Anonymous

          Wow. Even in Bosnia. Thanks for a thoughtful respectful dialogue. Happy New Year :)

          • herddog505

            And to you.

      • Anonymous

        Especially Dubai and Beirut are not Saudi.

    • Anonymous

      Right, this is a part of expressing your culture in an American way – with double entendres.

  • Anonymous

    “We’re never going to be able to touch the extreme haters. . . . We’re trying to affect the people in the middle, people with questions, the ‘persuadables.’ ”
    I guess that’s why they’re touring middle America, not Saudi Arabia – wonder how Negin Farsad in her “eye-catching mini dresses” and cursing liberally would do there?

    • herddog505

      She would definitely have to remember the five “D”s:

      Dodge
      Duck

      Dip

      Dive

      Dodge

      Remember: if you can dodge a ball, you can dodge a stone hurled by an angry religious zealot.

    • Anonymous

      We’ve toured the Middlle East she’d be fine. Extremists are fringe there just like here :)

      • Anonymous

        While I normally try to be agreeable when commenting, I find your response to be, at the very best, disingenuous.  From reading about you on-line and at your Facebook page, you have indeed toured Jordan and Palestine.  You go to Palestine for 3 months every year to minister to disabled and/or orphaned children in refugee camps [thank you for your important work].  Although you were born in New Jersey, you claim your ethnicity has limited your career.  I find that hard to believe [see, eg. Danny Thomas, Casey Kasem and both John E. and John H. Sununu], but that’s a subject for another day.
        You state in your response that “[e]tremists are fringe there just like here.”  Yet, state-run Palestinian TV runs children’s programs extolling terrorism and slaughtering Jews, having a Bugs Bunny like character vow to kill and eat Jews, and holding up suicide bombers as role models [the above examples are widely publicized on the internet, I'm sure you've seen them].  How can I look at such irrational, virulent hatred, and not come to the singular conclusion that “extremists” are not the fringe in Palestine [not to mention Saudi Arabia], but are, in fact, running the governing authority?

        • jim_m

          Killing all the Jews is not a fringe position. Killing everyone is a fringe position.  I’m guessing that he is referring to the latter.

    • Anonymous

      …. 
      We’re never going to be able to touch the extreme haters …. 

      That’s pure pigshit.

      You touch them every day — and they are you.

      You are the extreme haters.

      And your “comedy” circus is but the celebration of your morbid Denial of that fact — and its pathologically-hesperophobic Projection upon the rest of us!

      Almost every one of whom is related to someone who died or was maimed in wars to liberate muslims. 

  • Anonymous

    Questions;

    1. Does America really need yet another group of ethnic comedians that earn a living by making fun of how white people dance, while simultaneously crying racism?

    2. Does Russel Simmons know about this?

    3. Have they booked the Apollo theater?

    • Anonymous

      Yes to 2 and 3. As for #1 being muslim hurts NOT helps our careers We are all professional comics who worked long before all this. We are NOT muslim comics we are comics who happen to be muslim.

      • herddog505

        May I ask if you personally have experienced islamophobia?  If so, what happened?

        I suggest that non-Muslim Americans are a bit torn on how to deal with Muslims.  On the one hand, people who identify themselves as Muslim have murdered Americans explicitly in the name of Islam, and there is worse violence perpetrated by Muslims against non-Muslims in other countries.  On the other hand, America has a fairly good history of religious tolerance, and I think not only that the vast majority of our people are more than prepared to live and let live with anybody who obeys the law and otherwise tries to fit into our society but also vigorously prosecute anybody who commits a crime against somebody else on the basis of race, color, creed, etc.*

        I also suggest that, after years of professional racebaiting by masters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, many Americans are leery of claims of “hate crimes”, that such claims are either grossly inflated or made up from whole cloth.

        I look forward to your reply.

        (*) The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for giving to Mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection, should demean themselves as good citizens.

        President George Washington
        Letter to the Hebrew Congregation in Newport, Rhode Island
        1790

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

      1. Yes, if they’re funny.
      2. Who cares?
      3. I hope so.

  • http://2012.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

    Comedy that carries a political message actually has its own name, which isn’t “comedy.”

    Not to be confused with political messages that are comical, though — they’re funny precisely because they aren’t meant to be: Anthony Weiner, Barney Frank, Joe Biden…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

      Nope, sorry. Comedy is funny when it makes people laugh. That’s the only definition.

      • http://2012.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

        The operative word is “makes.”

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

          Sure. As in it, it makes other people laugh even if it doesn’t make you laugh. Therefore it’s still comedy.

  • Anonymous

    Hey remember when all those black comedians got together to protest that the way white people act in public 99% of the time isn’t racist to them, or that one comedy tour where that group of Hispanic comedians went around telling every everyone that assimilation is the best?

    me either…

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think I’ve seen a publicized tour per se, but I’ve certainly seen Hispanic and African-American comedians incorporate such things into their acts.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

      For examples of black comedians saying white people aren’t racist and against black people 99% of the time, see Chris Rock, Bill Cosby and Patrice O’Neal.

      I’m not that familiar with hispanic comics, but I’ve never heard Carlos Mencia, George Lopez or any other hispanic comic express anything but gratitude for being in America. Hell, Cheech Marin from Cheech & Chong made a whole movie about it, “Born in East LA”. It wasn’t that good a movie, but that’s another subject.

  • Anonymous

    This post is really about stereotyping.  The comedians are using comedy to point out that not all muslims are radical extremists.  The questions seem to ask, “Why should we trust you when the radical muslim extremists have done these things?”

    • Anonymous

      …. 
      The questions seem to ask, “Why should we trust you when the “‘radical” muslim “extremists” have done these things …?”

      “Radical” islam is The Beast.

      “Moderate” islam is its Trojan Horse. 

      Those poor dawks duped into seeing and/or to being empathetic toward this charade are usefully-idiotic Trojan-Horse pushers. 

      Happy New Year!

      • Anonymous

        As you confirm, it’s all about stereotyping.

        ________________________________
        From: Disqus
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        Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:25 AM
        Subject: [wizbang] Re: “Beware, America. The Muslims are coming, and they look and act suspiciously like you.”
        Disqus generic email template

        Brian_R_Allen wrote, in response to ackwired:
        ….
        The questions seem to ask, “Why should we trust you when the “‘radical” muslim “extremists” have done these things …?”
        “Radical” islam is The Beast.

        “Moderate” islam is its Trojan Horse.

        Those poor dawks duped into seeing and/or to being empathetic toward this charade are usefully-idiotic Trojan-Horse pushers.
        Happy New Year!
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  • Anonymous

    I would add one question.

    Why should we believe one word from Muslims when their HOLY Koran tells them they can lie (Taqiyya) to further Islam, and how do we know when they are telling the truth?

    Check Mate!

    • herddog505

      Becaused Muslims are no more monolithic than Christians, Jews, Buddhists, etc.

      I know and have known Muslims who are no more extremist than the average Methodist, Baptist, Jew, etc., and who are as patriotic as any other American.

      We had the same thing happen in 1917 and again in 1941.  There are bad apples in every bunch; I have no doubt that there are extremists – murderous, traitorous extremists – in the American Muslim community.  But I also believe that they are far outnumbered by their peaceable, law-abiding coreligionists who have no more desire to establish a caliphate in America than I have to establish a Lutheran theocracy.

      • Anonymous

        establish a Lutheran theocracy.

        It’ll promptly get gatecrashed by Unitarians.

        • herddog505

          They won’t last.  If nothing else, they won’t be able to stand the hymns.  Honestly, I have trouble believing that singing hymns in English that were originally written in German is “making a joyful noise unto the Lord”, especially when I’m singing(?) them!

          • Anonymous

            Do you know how to protest the new Unitarian in your neighborhood?

            Sent from my iPad

          • herddog505

            No.  How?

          • Anonymous

            Burn a question mark in his front yard.

      • Anonymous

        But the larger problem is that Shintoism or Buddhism (Japanese) or Catholicism/Lutheranism (German) do not contain provision that make lying and deceiving non-believers a tenet of their religion.

        • herddog505

          I don’t say no to that, but the unfortunate fact is that, when people are interested in murdering, robbing, oppressing, or otherwise harming their fellow men, religion gets to be VERY selective and subject to interpretation. 

          To borrow from Sam Kinison, I can imagine Jesus Christ flipping through His Bible during (for example) the Crusades* and muttering, “Where did I tell you to do THAT?”  Yet, the Crusaders did what they did with a clear conscience.  I’m sure that other religions have similar incidents in their histories.

          —-

          (*) Thanks to the excellent education I received in No. Carolina public schools (/sarc), I had no idea until I was in grad school that there were Crusades that went to places other than the Middle East to kill people other than Muslims, including other nominally Christian people.  The one that has stuck most in my mind is the Albigensian Crusade (1209 – 1229), and especially the siege of Beziers which saw the crusaders slaughter every man, woman and child in the city, as many as 20000 people.

          • Anonymous

            While I have, at times, struggled to agree with this point of view [my boss is a Palestinian, and a genuinely decent guy], you realize that you have to go back several centuries in attempting to make the comparison, right?  Christianity has matured – it’s not perfect and never will be, but it’s a damn sight better than Islam.
            When Muslims themselves fight for others that are oppressed, like the largely Christian abolitionist movement did in the US, instead of oppressing the small minority of other religions, like the Copts in Egypt or the Christians in Iraq [we won't mention Jews in Arab countries] who dare stay in a Muslim country – when Muslims have there own John Newton composing Amazing Grace, instead of enslaving people throughout the Middle East and Africa as they do today – when Muslims seek to proselytize their religion by building hospitals, ministering to the most needy and downtrodden and feeding the poor, instead of brutally imposing sharia law to force Islam down people’s throats, then I will listen to your relativism.  Until then, I find moderate Muslims to be as beneficial to humanity as moderate Germans prior to WWII.

          • herddog505

            Oh, it’s absolutely true that Christianity in general has matured in ways that Islam hasn’t.  My point was that people have no problem twisting their religion to claim that “God is on OUR side” and make even the most heinous acts “holy”.

          • Anonymous

            The Muslims are going through the same things now that Christians went through in the Reformation and the Enlightenment.

            One of the few leaders who recognized the backward position of Islam and acted upon it was Ataturk, which is why Turkey is a big success today.  The Arabs were and are behind the Turks in this way.

          • herddog505

            I wish that they would hurry up.

          • Anonymous

            I’m afraid the Turks are going backward, along with Egypt, as opposed to the rest of the Arab world moving towards the Turks.  I haven’t seen much good news from the Middle East in a long time.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

      Because you should judge people by what they individually do, as opposed to what you believe they will do based on what you’ve heard about other people.

      Judging someone before you’ve met them or know anything about them is “pre” (before) “judice” (judgment).

      You see?

  • Anonymous

    no more extremist than the average Methodist 

    Extreme casserole?

    • Anonymous

      I really have to ROFL at that…”It has ham AND tuna in it, doanchaknow!”

      • Anonymous

        That doesn’t sound kosher.

        • Anonymous

          What would extreme kosher be like?  “Lahtkes to die for OR THEY WILL KILL YOU!”

  • Anonymous

    The tedious part of all of this is that we – the citizens of a country founded on the notions of freedom of religion and tolerance, have to sit quietly and endure every sophistic teachable moment and false accusation in silence. Lest we be called racists or islamophobes by people who come from the same countries that are busily burning down churches and committing atrocities that are a heckuva lot worse than some old lady giving you funny looks at the check out line. 

    A comedy tour won’t fix the problem.

    The problem will only be solved when American muslims take three simple steps.

    1. Clean up your own house.
    Don’t tell me how wrong I am, while members of your own religion/culture are busy burning down churches, killing apostates and committing acts of terrorism in the name their own religion. Muslims have no claim of superiority while they tolerate that behavior, and frankly that behavior completely justifies suspicion by members of other cultures and religions.

    2. Learn to function in a multi-religious culture.
    My or anyone else’s expression of faith is not an affront to your faith. If you cant tolerate standing in line next to a jew, catholic or even an atheist while the baptist guy buys a bag of pork rinds at the liquor store that is conveniently open for Ramadan, then you don’t belong here.

    3. Deal with it.
    You may have read the two steps above and come away with the feeling that I have insulted you. Tough nuggets. That’s life in America. Please deal with it without a shooting spree.
     
    If you as a muslim, cant take these three simple steps, then you arent ready to be here.

    • Anonymous

      I would also add, Tolerance doesn’t mean that we take part in what your religion espouses.  It means we ignore it in the same way people who drive Chevrolet tolerate people who drive Fords or Hondas.  Tolerance does not mean they get special parking spaces, lanes set aside for their use or special fuel dispensed just for them.

  • herddog505

    Very true.

  • Anonymous

    Funny Moslems…wish there were more of them, but none work at CAIR…they are grim. They are involved in a jihad against free speech, and picking off easy targets, for now.

    http://righthereontheleftcoast.blogspot.com/2011/12/cair-1-freedom-0.html