“Anti-Semitism has become almost wholly the province of the Left today”

Steven Hayward at Powerline is wondering that which some enterprising journalist uninterested in keeping his gig (since I’m sure he’d soon be blacklisted) should take to Paul Krugman:

KrugmanSo Paul Krugman phoned in his periodic “Keynes Was Right” column today, arguing that the Obama Porkulus failed only because, like “true” Communism, it wasn’t tried vigorously or faithfully enough.

I wonder if Krugman also credits Keynes’s views on Jews, which British blogger Damian Thompson of The Telegraph brings to our attention.  From Keynes’s diary:

[Jews] have in them deep-rooted instincts that are antagonistic and therefore repulsive to the European, and their presence among us is a living example of the insurmountable difficulties that exist in merging race characteristics, in making cats love dogs …

It is not agreeable to see civilization so under the ugly thumbs of its impure Jews who have all the money and the power and brains.

Thompson adds:

If Keynes was an intellectual hero of the Right, rather than the Left, do you think those quotes would be so little known?

Anti-Semitism used to be a property of the Right, yet it’s worth pointing out that today many of the intellectual heroes of the right are Jews, such as Milton Friedman, Leo Strauss, Irving Kristol, etc., or that anti-Semitism has become almost wholly the province of the Left today.

Perhaps a host of Jewish comedians could tour the country with the sole purpose of pushing “against those who are exhibiting behavior which is less than consistent with the values of this nation” and fight the Jewaphobia running rampant in leftist circles and particularly in the hallways where the nation’s newspaper of record is published.

Imagine with me what the outcry would be if a conservative columnist was singing the praises of an economic policy put forth by someone who said the sort of things of Arabs that Keynes has said of Jews.

Do you think the only place you’d be reading about it is the blogosphere?

On a somewhat related note, the FBI recently published their crime statistics culled from the year 2010, and here are some interesting numbers related to hate crimes:

Hate crimes motivated by religious bias accounted for 1,409 offenses reported by law enforcement.  A breakdown of the bias motivation of religious-bias offenses showed:

  • 65.4 percent were anti-Jewish.
  • 13.2 percent were anti-Islamic.
  • 9.5 percent were anti-other religion, i.e., those not specified.
  • 4.3 percent were anti-Catholic.
  • 3.8 percent were anti-multiple religions, group.
  • 3.3 percent were anti-Protestant. 
  • 0.5 percent were anti-Atheism/Agnosticism/etc.  (Based on Table 1.)

The bottom line is that Jews were subjected to 5 times the number of hate crimes of victimized Muslims… yet we’re led to believe by some that Islamophobia is this creeping cancer spreading in America.

Right.

I’m sure the 922 Jewish hate crime victims in 2010 would agree.

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  • Anonymous

    And who is COMMITTING the hate crimes against Jews, those on the left or those on the right? Sincere question.

    You ask a lot of “what if” questions, Rick. Why don’t you ask what Churchill said about Arabs, blacks, and other non-Europeans? Churchill’s a hero of yours, right? Should his legacy be about his role in WW2, or about his views on race?

    • jim_m

      As the left has allied itself with the palestinian cause I would tell you that the left are doing so because the vast majority of religiously motivated crimes are perpetrated by muslims against Jews and their allies.

      • Anonymous

        Whatever, Jim. Typical outlandish jim m nonsense.

        • Anonymous

          So no answer to jim, eh?

          Typical outlandish Li’l Brucie response.

          • Anonymous

            Answer to what? Jim’s scary imaginary “left-muslim alliance”? His assertion that the “vast majority” these crimes are perpetrated “by Muslims” even though the statistics cited show nothing of the sort?

             Jim’s been spouting outlandish nonsense on Wizbang for years. It’s my habit, and my prerogative, to point it out when I notice it, and feel like it.

            On the other hand, Cap’n, YOUR habit of standing on the shoulders of better commenters, flinging what you imagine to be clever insults, is tiresome and childish. What are you, 12 years old?

        • Stephen

          Jimm’s bullshit is legendary. That guy must be a total idiot.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

        So, the standard you’re applying is, “If Group A supports Group B, and some people in Group B do awful things, then Group A supports those awful things.”

        Let’s see how that works when we plug conservative groups into A and B.

        If conservatives (Group A) support American Christian Churches (Group B), and Fred Phelps’ church is an American Christian Church, do conservatives support Fred Phelps’ demonstrations at American military funerals?

        If GOP voters (Group A) support GOP nominees (Group B), and Herman Cain is a nominee, do conservatives support sexual harassment and adultery?

        If the answer to both of the above is “no”, please recognize that you are applying your model in a conveniently hypocritical fashion towards liberals only.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU5DQWQTTHTPO4A4ZYSL3AAV2U Adjoran

      Since most of the incidents involve vandalism by cowards in the dark of night, it is impossible to say who committed those crimes which remain unsolved, isn’t it?

      But that’s not the point:  the emphasis is on anti-muslim hate crimes, even though they are five times less frequent, while the anti-Jewish acts don’t seem to evoke the same concern from the hand-wringing left.

      • Anonymous

        LOL the “hand-wringing left” has been concerned about anti-Semitism since at least 1947′s “Gentlemen’s Agreement,” just to cite one Hollywood example.

         Of course, according to *some*, if one doesn’t agree with everything the Likud Party wants, one is an anti-Semite, so one sometimes can’t be “pro-Semitic” enough to please *some*.

  • herddog505

    Forgive me if I’m overthinking this, but is the syllogism:

    Keynes didn’t like Jews + Krugman likes Keynes = Krugman doesn’t like Jews?

    That’s pretty tenuous, don’t you think?

    Now, I agree with the idea that a conservative merely MENTIONING somebody who could be even tenuously considered a bigot of any stripe would be pilloried. 

    • Anonymous

      LOL you nailed it with the syllogism thing, sir.

      BTW, Rick, this guy’s assertion, and the title of your piece, “Anti-Semitism has become almost wholly the province of the Left today” is what you might call an “unsupported” assertion.

      • Oysteria

        Actually, I found a survey just a couple weeks ago showing that nearly 30% of African Americans hold strong anti-semitic views.  And there were some 40% of Hispanic Americans that were foreign-born holding strong anti-semitic views as opposed to about 20% American born Hispanics.  In both, the numbers were consistently higher than the general population.  Sometimes twice as high depending on the question.

        I’d venture to guess that the majority in both are from the left side of the political spectrum.  You can take it for what it’s worth.  I don’t even remember where I saw it.  I just found it noteworthy.

        Edit: Let me also add that these same people did have some positive views, agreeing that Jews were strongly family oriented and contribute a lot to cultural life.

        • Anonymous

          With respect, Oysteria, what you would venture to guess, or found noteworthy, is indeed worth precisely nothing. Nor is a citation of a survey that can’t be found, so that one cannot see how these questions were phrased.

          • Stephen

            Oh… but Oysteria “read it”.,

            This blog is full of unsourced bullshit. Naturally it’ll have unsrouced bullshit in the comments too.

          • Oysteria

            Stepehen, or what ever your name is this week, just cram it.  You’ve poisoned the well here so thoroughly there’s no chance of you redeeming yourself.  Now give yourself a nice little pat on the back for at least spelling the cuss words right.

          • Oysteria

            As I said, I don’t remember where I saw it and you could take it or leave it.  I thought you’d just dismiss it, I just thought it was worth the mentioning.

  • Anonymous

    This creep is so anti American he wreaks of Obama..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

    I can’t tell who’s the most persecuted race…

    Chinese and Latinos with immigration…
    Blacks and Columbians with disproportionate drug laws…

    I could probably be here all day in regards to how the land of the “free” has turned into the land of the “persecuted”…

    • http://2012.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

      I wish the Offended-Americans would all go back to Offendedland where they belong.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

        Me too. Unfortunately all the white middle-aged conservative crybabies won’t be accepted back in Europe.

        • http://2012.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

          You’re assuming we’re offended by your stupidity. No, we’re amused.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

            Sorry, “go back to Offendedland” sounds much more offended than amused.

      • Brian_R_Allen

        …. 
        I wish the Offended-Americans would all go back to Offendedland where they belong … 

        Me, too. I’m an immigrant (hyphenated?)-American and got to chose what to put in front of my hyphen: So I’m an AMERICAN-American!

    • jim_m

      Line on up and join your grievance group.  That’s what the left wants, everyone defined not as individuals who have individual worth, but as members of a grievance group where they can only find satisfaction throughmembership in that group.

  • Stephen

    Right wing conservative Nazis have been lamenting “the influence of the Jews” for decades.

    So now the Nazis are pretending the left is the problem.

    Big surprise there…

    • jim_m

      Nazis are socialist.  Socialism is considered leftist.  Therefore Nazis can be considered part of the left.  The Nazis also believed in a lot pf progressive ideas.  Progressivism is definitely leftist.

      About the only place the Nazis were right wing was in their nationalism ut that did not define them like their socialist policies did.

      Oh, and calling their opponents Nazis is what today’s left does.

      • Anonymous

        Outlandish Goldbergian nonsense alert!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XY2E2ATOKMPYDZJLN4JUSQEZJE Nunnaubiznez

          Niot at all. Look at their agenda’s. Take their open hatred for Jews out of the way, and look at their policies. They were pro Gun Control, hell, Hitler hated smoking and even promoted Veganism, since he was a hardcore Vegan!
          How many Right wing Vegans can you think of? All the Right winger’s I know are gun-toting carnivores in the extreme.

          • Anonymous

            Well, ya totally got me there. Since Hitler was a nonsmoking vegetarian, he must have been a commie.

             Forget I said anything.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

            Hitler was also a Christian and a veteran. Does that mean all Christians and veterans are potential Hitlers?

            Come on here.

          • Brian_R_Allen

            Hitler was also a Christian and had been an army corporal ….
            Hitler and his Mussolini-modeled modified Marxist-Leninist gangsters were Christian-hating death-worshiping satanist/pagans. 

            But he did make Corporal on his own merits and could hang paper which clearly demonstrates his having been way better prepared for the job of chief executive than is America’s similarly hard Leftard charismatic (it is said)  pathological narciSSist! 

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

            Your interpretation of Hitler is interesting, but of course misses my main point:

            First, Hitler was not at all Marxist in any way, shape or form and in fact killed many socialists and communists on his way to power and in power.

            Please read the above sentence until you understand it fully.

            Second, Nunnaubiznez is claiming liberals are like Hitler, because some of his irrelevant habits are like those of some liberals.

            My post shows that the same can be said of other of Hitler’s irrelevant habits, and their linking with white Conservative Christians.

          • Brian_R_Allen

            Hitler was a Mussolini-modeled modified Marxist in every way — and then some — and in fact killed many socialists and communists on his way to power and in power ….

            You mean as did Stalin and Lenin and Che and Castro and Mao and Pol Pot and Ho Chi Mihn and as do Hu and Putin and Mugabe and the bank-robbing, drug and gun-running gutlessly anonymously woman, child and baby murdering Marxist gangster bastards that so grandiosely self style themselves the “ira?”

            Murdering other Marxists more likely defines Marxists than excludes them!

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

            “You mean as did Stalin and Lenin and Che and Castro and Mao and Pol Pot”

            No, actually. I mean in a completely different way than they did – because Hitler murdered them FOR BEING COMMUNISTS AND SOCIALISTS.

            I know you desperately want to believe, in the face of all contrary evidence including the written record of the 1930′s and 1940′s, that Hitler was a Leftist.

            But just because you want to believe it doesn’t make it true. Sorry.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

        Nope, sorry. Your argument fails in its first sentence – Nazis are not socialist. In fact Nazis murdered socialists and communists on their way into power in Germany, and once in power sent them to the gas chambers.

        I mean, come on. Just because “Republic of China” has ‘republic’ in it, would that make them a republic?

    • Anonymous

      Godwin’s Law.  Fail.

    • Anonymous

      “Right wing conservative nazis” is 2012′s most stupid line of the year!

      Nazis – members of Germany’s National Socialist German Workers’ Party, that is, based their party’s ideology in the “modified” Marxism (Hard Leftism, that is) its “inventor,” Mussolini, called fascism. Its heritage went along the lines of: Marxism morphed into Leninism; morphed into fascism; morphed into national socialism; degenerated into Nazism.

      In parallel with Hitler’s Germany and under the tutelage of the mentor he called his “Uncle Joe,” the traitor, F D Roosevelt and succeeding increasingly treasonous and more corrupt members of the vast RICO-racketeering organized criminal enterprises that insist we call them by their street name: the “Democratic” potty; adapted fascism for themselves,embraced it enthusiastically – if insidiously - renamed it cronyism — and have employed it to the purpose of looting the Scores of Trillions of Dollars the feral gummint they’ve long controlled has squandered on them and their cohorts and cronies.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

        If facts at all matter to you, a) National Socialism is about as socialist as the People’s Republic of China is Republican, and b) FDR defeated the Nazis.

        But thanks for dishonoring the memory of all those who struggled against the Nazis under FDR, including both my grandfathers and several uncles. Way to go.

        • Brian_R_Allen

          …. If facts at all matter to you, a) National Socialism is about as socialist as the People’s Republic of China is Republican and;

          …. b) FDR defeated the Nazis.

          Facts do indeed matter to me which should have become clear to you the moment I was at pains to correct your having repeated the tired old Leftard canard that depends upon those too stupid to know they’re being lied to (AKA “Democrats”) accepting that the nature of the manifestation of evil called socialism — and by its every other name — may be altered by the tone of your voice and/or by your willingness to lie.

          National socialism is thus preciesely as socialist as the PRC is fascist. Is Nazi.

          And while others fought and won WW-II, the criminally Uncle-Joe influenced and Alger Hiss and many other Soviet-agent-directed FDR and his cohorts and cronies, the execrable Kennedy and Johnson Crime Families and other “Democratic” potty heroes preeminent among them, began and for decades have obscenely profited from the Military-Industrial Complex about which, during his farewell address to the nation, on January 17 1961 Republican President Dwight David Eisenhower waxed so eloquently — and warned us all. (And which, after then preseident, Ronald Wilson Reagan, by ending the Cold War, killed it dead, morphed into the similarly fascistic Mann-MadeGW Industrial Complex. From whose complex corruptions the same “Democratic” party activists, cohorts and cronies – who’ve already emptied the nation’s coffers and indebted the feral gummint they’ve controlled these past 80-odd years, continue to obscenely profit!)

          Try those for facts!

          For, as my old boss once astutely observed: “The trouble with our liberal” (socialist/communist/Marxist/fascist/Leninist/progressive: – so many words – only one meaning) “friends isn’t that they’re ignorant, it’s that they know so much that isn’t so.”

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

            Replied to this already but somehow that post isn’t visible.

            Basically, your response to a) is “… the nature of the manifestation of evil called socialism — and by its
            every other name — may be altered by the tone of your voice and/or by
            your willingness to lie…”.

            Which is **factually untrue**. Socialism is a specific economic and political system, just as are capitalism and communism.

            But somehow you leap from your above assertion to “National socialism is thus preciesely as socialist as the PRC is fascist.”

            Sorry, you saying something is true doesn’t constitute an argument. How old are you, 9?

            Then your response to b), FDR defeating the Nazis, is to incoherently reference the Kennedys, Eisenhower, LBJ and Reagan. None of whom have anything to do with whether or not FDR defeated the Nazis.

            Which it is a historical fact that he did.

            Wouldn’t it be easier and less embarassing just to admit you’re wrong? Why don’t you do that? It may hurt at first, but I promise it will be cleansing to your soul and after a while will even make your ego feel better. Healthier.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XY2E2ATOKMPYDZJLN4JUSQEZJE Nunnaubiznez

      National Socialism is a Left wing movement. The mainstream media often tries to paint it as an element of the Right, but it is defintiely a Left wing movement. It is simply a racist (i.e., “nationalist” since the term “nation” has to do with race) form of Socialism. In fact, many of the African nations would fall under the National Socialist category if you compare their official policies to those of Hitler’s.

      • Anonymous

        LOL you guys should go to a Nazi meeting and call them “socialists” and see what they say.

         Or do.

         I dare ya.

        • herddog505

          Commies and nazis are nothing but criminal gangs that use the same tactics to achieve the same goals.  Saying that one is “left” and the other “right” makes about as much sense as claiming that the Mafia is left-wing while the yakuza is right-wing.

          I suggest that the attempts over the years to tie them to one side or another was done for strictly poltiical purposes which we’re seeing played out here: “Oh yeah?  Well, YOUR side lines up with the [reds / nazis]!  So that makes YOU a [commie / nazi]!”

          • Anonymous

            Well, you’d be right except that the Nazis were ALWAYS identified with the right, until Goldberg and his “liberal fascism” folderol. Then, every wingnut in Wingnuttistan thought they had a Gotcha, and geniuses like Jim M have been re-spouting Goldberg’s logorrhea ever since.

            It would be funny except it’s so pathetic.

          • herddog505

            Always identified with the right by whom?

            (A) The left

            (B)  The left

            (C) The left

            (D) All the above

            It’s an attempt – a successful attempt, I should say – by the left at guilt by association.  How a party that called itself “socialist worker’s party” came to be associated with the right escapes me, unless it was simply that the reds, associated with the left, needed to try to differentiate themselves for propaganda reasons.  “We’re the left; ergo, they must be the right.”

          • Anonymous

            Umm, no.

            By historians like Trevor-Roper, Shirer, and just about anybody else who ever wrote about Nazi Germany before Goldberg’s revisionist claptrap.

            Again, you should show up at a modern Nazi rally and tell ‘em they’re a bunch of commies, or that Hitler was. See what they say.

            I double-dog dare ya.

          • Anonymous

            For instance, here’s Shirer in “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich,” describing Hitler:

            “…His originality lay in his being the only politician of the Right to apply them {certain ideas and techniques} to the German scene after the First World War. It was then that the Nazi movement, alone among the nationalist and conservative parties, gained a mass following…”

            Shirer’s work has long been considered THE definitive history of Nazi Germany, and represents the consensus view of the Nazi movement until, ummm…recently…

          • herddog505

            I suggest that “right” means “not communist”.  What did the nazis have in common with the GOP in the United States or the Tories in Britain? 

            And if I show up at a nazi rally, it would only be for target practice.  My Garand hasn’t gotten a good workout in a while…

          • Anonymous

            Not much, but I tire of the new Wizbang shibboleth that the Nazis were “of the left.” It’s patent nonsense, and adopted by rubes like Jim M (I don’t believe YOU, herddog, sincerely swallow such hoo-ha) as a feeble ‘gotcha.” Goldberg, I repeat, is an idiot as a historian, but a pretty good book-seller.

            LOL the “you should go to a Nazi meeting” thingie was meant to be humorous. I wouldn’t know how to find one, much less attend one.

          • herddog505

            The unfortunate fact is that “nazi” has long been a catch-all insult for both left and right.  In defense of my fellow reichwing Rethuglikkkans, we’ve been called “nazis” for so long that it’s reflexive to hurl the insult right back.

          • Brian_R_Allen

            …. Commies and nazis are nothing but criminal gangs ….

            And are as totalitarian (left-wing) as and are in the final analysis almost indistinguishable from the mafia and the yakuza et al.

            “Almost” so, because the mafia and the yakuza et al have moral codes and lack uniformed branches, fiat “courts” and prisons. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NQOH5VN62KUX7YQADYPOJORRPE Kyle Lawton

    BTW Keynes wrote that thing about the Jews when he was 17 years old. Later grew up a bit and became a pro-Zionist, supporter of Jewish refugees. In other words, not an anti-Semite at all.

    Whereas, say, Winston Churchill and Dwight Eisenhower and most other whites of long ago lived into old age saying and thinking stuff about the dark people that today would be considered anything from quite regrettable to horrendous. Yes, they said and thought these things even when, as in Ike’s case, they sometimes took substantial action in the cause of racial equality. Ike ordered the troops to enforce school integration at Little Rock. But he remarked to an aide “You wouldn’t want your little girl going to school with some big black buck, would you?”

    Can you imagine the publicity this quote would get now if Ike were a Republican president? Oh wait, he was. But little is ever said about it. Because most people recognize that stupid, widely shared beliefs of long ago say little about adherents of a given political tendency today. Most people — not a grub like Mr. Rice, who can’t be bothered to check his facts and context before pasting up a gotcha post borrowed from another grub who borrowed it from yet another.

    • http://profiles.google.com/rtssdorsai Jeff C

      oops, from the actual source material  …. “Chandavarkar acknowledged that as an
      adult  Keynes  never  outgrew  his  teen  perception  of  the Jew. J.M.
      Keynes  held  even  more  radical  views  about  the  Chinese.  He
      condemned  the  attempt  to  transform  the  Chinese  into  “a  race  of
      tigers” as a futile effort; he added that Europeans could hope nothing
      less than a second flood that would exterminate them.”

      nice try to reform him but FAIL …

      • http://www.brutallyhonest.org Rick Rice

        Thanks Jeff… So, someone was saying something about grubs who fail to do their fact-checking?

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NQOH5VN62KUX7YQADYPOJORRPE Kyle Lawton

          Oh, please. Let us take a look at the article in question.

          Jeff C. left out some key words from his quote. It should end like so:  “never seemed to have outgrown his perception of the Jew *as an oriental.*” The adult Keynes did not see Jews as Europeans, which to him was as much to their benefit as not. The article notes many sappy, romantic things that he had to say about Jews. The teenage Keynes saw Jews as a menace; the adult Keynes just saw them as being different.

          What Jeff C. calls Keynes’ “even more radical views about the Chinese” were, again, the views he held as a 17-year-old. The paper does not say or imply that the adult Keynes held those views. And no, “oriental” in the first quote has nothing to do with China. The word was used to refer to the Middle East.

          Chandavarkar’s paper gathers up examples of Keynes’ writing about Jews. What the quotes have in common is that they present Jews as being different from Europeans. Chandavarkar refers to this as anti-semitism, but read the quotes and what emerges is a sense of Jews as being different. You can pick out some that sound hostile or condescending, but you can pick out others that sound sappy and adoring. What you can’t do is find any that match the quote you showcased, the one from when Keynes was 17. Why? Because, as Chandavarkar himself says, they belonged to the time that Keynes wrote it, and Keynes outgrew that time.

          What else does Chandavarkar say? Well, this: “Keynes’s writings may sound anti-semitic, but his activities were emphatically philo-semitic.” In fact, he says, Keynes was
          on the side of Zionism “long before it became fashionable.” You know how the Balfour Declaration came to be? At Versailles a committee was got up to make the case for a Jewish national home in Palestine. Chandavarkar tells us that Keynes “was the only non-Jewish member” of said committee.

          Because the point, as already indicated to you, is that whatever shit you can pick up on people is only shit until you have considered the larger picture. In the case of Keynes, the picture is clear. The very man who found the quote that you grubbed says this:

          “anti-semitism will be seen more as a peripheral fringe of an inherently compassionate personality, an unamiable foible rather than a fatal flaw of character, a blind-spot which never blurred the totality of his social and political vision.”

          But you and Jeff C. can keep grubbing away.
          l

          • Anonymous

            …. 
            You can pick out some of Keynes language that sounds hostile or condescending and other examples that sound sappy and adoring ….

            Not surprising, really, in an habitual drunkard whose moods, as do those of all degenerate drunks, swung in accordance with the amount of booze he had on board — and with how his boy friend of the minute was behaving. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/rtssdorsai Jeff C

      more from the source material.  He sounds like a Jews best friend:

      Upon meeting Einstein, Keynes reflected his impression as follows:
      He is a naughty Jew boy covered with ink –that kind of
      Jew  –  the  kind  which  has  its  head  above  water,  the
      sweet, tender imps who have not sublimated immortality
      into compound interest. 

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  • Anonymous

    Where is Jay Tea?   We need a higher quality of foolishness around here.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, after watching Li’l Brucie, Stepehen, Kyle Lawton getting whacked around like pinatas, I would agree with that assessment, Chico.

      • Anonymous

        Either Jay’s dead in a snowbank, gripping a Romney sign in his frozen hands, he’s on strike for more money for providing half of the content here, or he’s on vacation in the Dominican with Rush Limbaugh.

        Happy New Year!

  • Anonymous

    This may be the most rediculous, illogical article I have ever seen.

  • Anonymous

     
    ..

    the wingnuts even really care about bigotry as anything other than to smear the “suspected heroes” of the people who point out their bigotries. As if it had anything to do with economic policy or modern liberal attitudes towards Jews. As if they could even get that right by actually citing something actually damning. Cause that would make the fish green”.

     
    Citing with no context, the writing of a 17 year old to build a whole post of inferences must be very embarrassing  even to  a wingnut, or is this so common that it escapes their notice as a typical example of the level of scholarship of the wingnut echo chamber, that this quote has been racing through.

    • Anonymous

      The latter. You can’t embarrass these people. They’ll just double down.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

        It is really fun to watch them double down though. : )

    • Anonymous

      And it is still higher caliber of argument than you manage when defending AGW. :)

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  • Anonymous

    …. Thompson adds:

    …. If Keynes was an intellectual hero of the Right, rather than the Left, do you think 
    those quotes would be so little known …? 

    And:

    …. Anti-Semitism used to be a property of the Right ….

    Mr Thompson has fallen for a couple of canards and aught note that those the Left likes to call “the right” would no more embrace as loathsome a creature as was Keynes – nor any of his projected self-loathings-posing as “ideas,” than they would embrace antisemitism. Which always was the wholly owed psychopathology of the Left – of Marx and Lenin and Hitler and Stalin et al. 

    And still is.

  • Anonymous

    Hitler as being part of the wholly owned left . You must be kidding! I rest my case on the scholarship of the wingnuts..why not Franco too? and Mussolini was a socialist when he was young 17…

    • http://2012.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

      Your ilk keeps trying to give us the racist Southern Democrats, so why shouldn’t we give you the Nazis?

      • Anonymous

        Southern Democrats were conservative. Lincoln was a liberal Republican.

        • http://2012.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

          Crick and his ilk are talking 1960s, not 1860s.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

        How about because racist Southern Democrats *are* almost always conservatives, and Nazis are NEVER EVER liberals or socialists?

        If you don’t like how racist Southern Democrats make other conservatives look, then clean house and kick them out of the GOP and general conservatism. As opposed to trying to say something just as mean about liberals – without a basis in fact.

        The problem isn’t saying something mean as much as saying something that has no factual basis, you know?

        • http://2012.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

          If you don’t like how racist Southern Democrats make other conservatives look, then clean house and kick them out of the GOP

          The GOP can’t kick Democrats out of anything, you utter simpleton.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

            They are voting for your GOP candidates at the Federal level, you total poopyhead. This is because they are part of your conservative coalition.

            So, once again – if you don’t like them, stop associating with them and make clear that their racist views are utterly unwelcome in any effort to elect any GOP candidate.

            Otherwise, just accept the fact that they make convenient bedfellows for conservatives and the GOP at the Federal election level.

          • http://2012.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

            You still revere Robert Byrd, and are happy to associate with people who call for the destruction of the State of Israel, and “pastors” who hold aloft signs that say “God hates fags” even while they vote straight Democrat.

            People are free to vote how they will. If Adolf Hitler rose from the grave and announced he supports same-sex marriage and will therefore vote for the candidate who comes out in favor of it, what would you do?

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

            “You still revere Robert Byrd…”

            You mean, the Senator who fully repudiated his past and then proved his words with deeds for voting for the Civil Rights bill?

            And your mentioning of Fred Phelps proves my point exactly. Fred Phelps is a *Southern conservative* who NEVER votes for Democrats at the Federal level.

            Absolutely, people are free to vote how they will. But where did I say otherwise?

            My point is, don’t try to pretend that the Southern racists who vote Democratically at the local level, aren’t voting in droves for the GOP candidates at the Federal level. If the GOP really didn’t want them, they’d repudiate them and tell them to take their votes elsewhere.

    • Anonymous


      why not Franco too? and Mussolini was a socialist when he was young 17…”

      Franco was a classic European right-winger.  I remember seeing any support of him or his policies from anyone in the right wing over the last 30 years or so.  He did, however, have support from Hitler and Mussolini.  The only real reason he got support from the US was his virulently anti-Communist stance.

      But Mussolini?

      You really don’t know anything at all about the history of socialism and progressivism in the first part of the 20th century, do you?  

      Mussolini.  That “young 17″ was still leading major socialist marches/riots in Italy when he was 28.  The only reason Mussolini was “anti-socialist,” for example, was a political schism between his form of socialism and “mainstream” socialism over Italian nationalism and foreign wars.  The major reason the entrenched socialists in Italy didn’t like him was that he thought people from all levels of society – not just the proletariat – should lead social change.  You know – like current socialists tend to.

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm, seems like others are noticing the same thing.  Note what the American Jewish Committee, the Anti Defamation League and the Simon Wiesenthal Center have to say about about a group of bloggers working for the oh-so influential Democratic think tank, Center for American Progress: http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?ID=251699&R=R1

    “The American Jewish Committee and the Anti-Defamation League weighed in last
    week on the mushrooming anti-Israel scandal surrounding a group of bloggers
    working for the US think tank Center for American Progress (CAP).
    Jason
    Isaacson, the AJC’s director of government and international affairs, told The
    Jerusalem Post by e-mail on Friday that “think tanks are entitled to their
    political viewpoints – but they’re not free to slander with impunity. References
    to Israeli ‘apartheid’ or ‘Israel-firsters’ are so false and hateful they reveal
    an ugly bias no serious policy center can countenance.”
    …The Simon Wiesenthal Center and NGO Monitor in Jerusalem
    blasted Jilani and CAP for stoking hatred of Jews.”

    • herddog505

      The only problem I see with this is that “anti-Semite” and “anti-Israel” are not necessarily the same things.  I suggest that there are lefties who detest Israel because of Israeli “crimes” against the Palestinians, NOT because most Israelis are Jewish.  This is not to say that there’s no anti-Semitism on the left, but I believe that disease to be an equal-opportunity pestilence.

      • Anonymous

          I could have written this comment myself, except I would have substituted the phrase “are angry at” for the word “detest,” and would have left off the quote marks around the word “crimes.”

        • Anonymous

          So Israeli “apartheid” or “Israel-firsters” is not anti-Semitic?  I really have a hard time separating anti-Semitism from anti-Israeli when the end result of both is the destruction of Israel, which is what many on the left want.  To then posit that wanting to destroy Israel is not anti-Semitic is a nuance too far, at least for me.

          • Anonymous

            No, not necessarily. Describing West Bank policy as “apartheid” and certain people as “Israel-firsters,” while somewhat provocative and arguably over-the-top, can no more be classified as “anti-semitic” than certain commenters here, (including, if I’m not mistaken, YOU) who describe President Obama as an “America-hater” and who claim he wants to “destroy America” can be classified as “anti-black.”

            And haha lol the CAP bloggers are not “posit[ing] that wanting to destroy Israel is not anti-Semitic.” Opposing Likud policy in favor of something more, ummm, reasonable is not anti-Semitism, and not even anti-Israeli. It’s just anti-Likud. There are many many Jews and many many Israelis who oppose Likud’s platform. Are they all anti-Semites?

            Don’t be such a drama queen.

          • Anonymous

            I’m agreeing with the sentiments of the American Jewish Committee and Anti-Defamation League that these CAP bloggers are displaying “an ugly bias no serious policy center can countenance” and the Simon Wiesenthal Center and NGO Monitor in Jerusalem that the bloggers and CAP are “stoking hatred of Jews.”  You want to take Hamas’ side, as most leftists do, be my guest.

          • Anonymous

            Lol haha I wasn’t aware that Hamas had expressed an opinion on this “controversy.”

            See, don’t you get it? Every time someone disagrees with Netanyahu, they’re an “anti-Semite” who is “taking Hamas’ side.”

            But let someone suggest that criticism of Obama has a racial component, and Bah! That’s preposterous! It’s simply valid criticism of his “anti-American” policies! What racism?

            Try to have just a little consistency, Walter.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Good lord, Netanyahu, Likud, Obama and racism – all in your responses and none of any relevance.  Look at the quotes noted in the article – “Israeli ‘apartheid’” and “Israel-firsters.”  Three noted Jewish groups found these terms, used by highly influential members of leftist CAP, to be anti-Semitic.  Nothing to do with Netanyahu, Likud, Obama or allegedly racist attacks on his policies.  Just the left’s blatant anti-Semitism.
            Try to be relevant, Bruce, or make your argument out of something other than strawmen.

          • Brucehenry

            It seems, Walter, that despite being an excellent speller, you have trouble with definitions — of, say, “relevance,” or maybe “strawmen.”

            What I’m pointing out is that just because these noted Jewish groups SAY certain comments are anti-Semitic doesn’t make it so, any more than Morgan Freeman saying the Tea Party is racist makes that so. Or, for that matter, Wizbang commenters claiming Obama is “anti-American” makes that so.

            What brings Netanyahu and Likud into it is that it’s THEIR policies, as opposed to other Israeli parties’ policies, that are being described as “apartheid,” and THEIR apologists, as opposed to certain other talking heads, that are being described as “Israel-firsters.”

             Get it now?

            It’s not that difficult an analogy, Walt. Jesus.

            Now, if you want to continue claiming that the CAP bloggers are anti-Semites, knock yourself out. Just be aware that there are reasonable people who differ.

      • Anonymous

        See, reply to Brucehenry.

        • herddog505

          I understand your point.  There IS anti-Semitism on the left; Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson leap to mind as examples.  It also strikes me that some lefties, such as Helen Thomas, let their hatred – and there’s no other word for it – for Israel slop over onto Jews generally.

          But I really think that most lefties are NOT anti-Semites, but simply hate Israel.  Consider the left’s attitude toward Netanyahu: they despise him NOT because he’s Jewish, but rather because he’s tough and uncompromising when it comes to the defense of his country and people against a pack of savages who want them all dead, and who work daily toward achieving that goal.