Conservatives: Occupy Wall Street Shows How We Can’t Get Our Message Out Over Old Media Din

The gauzy puffery that the Old Media slathers upon the Occupy Wall Street movement has helped keep most Americans in the dark about how nasty, how violent, how outrageous, and even how incredibly lacking in integrity this movement is. On the conservative blogs the truth is well known, of course, but the fact that few Americans seem to know how bad the OWSers are shows that as conservatives we are not effectively getting our message out there.

For the initial two years of its existence the Old Media spent its every waking moment destroying, maligning, and out right lying about the Tea Party movement. Even today you’ll see an occasional swipe at the Tea Patiers made by some hater from the left and the Old Media is happy to “report” the slander, naturally.

You might remember when Obama operative Anna Park tried to start a counter movement that she prosaically called “the Coffee Party” during the heyday of the Tea Party. You may also recall that those Old Media mavens, while daily lying and lambasting the Tea Partiers, fell all over themselves to play up the silly and quickly failed and forgotten “Coffee Party” effort.

Similarly, when the Occupiers hit the scene, the Old Media went into paroxysms of ecstasy over the whole thing. Even today, after conservatives have so effortlessly ripped away the veneer from the absurdity and essential anti-Americanness of the OWSers, the Old Media is still slathering OWS with unearned and illicit praise.

Most Americans are unaware that real communists and socialists and other anti-American groups form the core of OWS. Few Americans understand that these people are drug addicts and criminals that have indulged every imaginable crime at these events. From property destruction to child abandonment to rape to gun crimes, just about every crime imaginable from small to large have been committed at these events. People have even died at these things!

There is even a website dedicated to chronicling the arrests made at OWS events. As of the writing of this article they had noted 5,975 arrests at OWS events across the nation. And this is a left-wing hosted website, too. You see they are proud of these arrests.

Compared to the several years of Tea Party events, the OWS events have been a criminal’s paradise. Not only have the Tea Partiers never had any arrests, or fights, or criminality, at their events they’ve even left every park they used cleaner than they were when they started their events!

Just because the OWS movement is dying down right now — maybe only due to the winter cold — that doesn’t mean the outrages of the OWSers is slowing. Just recently a church that made the foolish mistake of helping these criminals found its facilities vandalized. A $12,000 baptismal fount was stolen along with laptops and other items. These creeps even urinated on Church property. There have been other churches that have been vandalized when they tried to assist the OWSers, too.

With all the criminality that has occurred at these supposedly peaceful events, the public should have long ago turned against OWS. Yet polls still show that Americans have not turned against OWS. Why? Because the Old Media has told them how great it all is and has made a concerted effort to hide the truth from people.

By contrast, the Tea Party’s image has been thoroughly battered with Americans. Is it any surprise with the near daily barrage of hate the Old Media bludgeons the Tea Party with?

If no other example is believable to show how the Old Media establishment is sold out to the far left, the difference in the way it has treated the Tea Party movement and the Occupy Wall Street movement is solid proof of that bias.

Sadly, even after we’ve exposed all the criminality at the OWS events in conservative media outlets from newspapers to TV to blogs, the fact that Americans still have not turned foursquare against the Occupiers shows that we have made little headway in reaching the country with the truth.


Posted by on January 26, 2012.
Filed under #Occupy, Asshats, Big government, Bloggers, Blogosphere, Business, Conservatives, corruption, Culture Of Corruption, Democrats, Economics, Media, Occupy Protest.
Warner Todd Huston is a Chicago-based freelance writer, has been writing opinion editorials and social criticism since early 2001 and is featured on many websites such as Andrew Breitbart's and,,,,, Human Events Magazine, among many, many others. Additionally, he has been a frequent guest on talk-radio programs to discuss his opinion editorials and current events.He has also written for several history magazines and appears in the new book "Americans on Politics, Policy and Pop Culture" which can be purchased on He is also the owner and operator of Feel free to contact him with any comments or questions, EMAIL Warner Todd Huston: igcolonel .at."The only end of writing is to enable the reader better to enjoy life, or better to endure it." --Samuel Johnson

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  • herddog505

    It DOES make you wonder who “The Establishment” is trying to puff up, doesn’t it?

    That is, unless we buy into the doublethink that MiniTru’s reporters, despite being employees of major corporations whose bosses own / control other major corporations, are TOTALLY for “the little guy”.

    What group represents a real threat to “The Establishment”, to the crony capitalism that sees taxpayer money funneled to various major corporations (bailouts, anyone?) with a bone thrown to the big union bosses?  What group is a menace to the revolving door between the Board Room, K Street, and DC?  Who REALLY threatens to derail the comfy, cozy system that allows a relative handful of people to direct the hugely powerful federal government?  Could it be the pack of smelly hippies who, while they make a lot of noise (and mess and stench), are ultimately too disorganized to even say what they actually want?  Or could it be some other group?  Hmmm…

  • jim_m

    Don’t expect the media to cover actual news.  It is first and foremost for the promotion of a political agenda.  Everything that is reported is done through the lens of political ideology. That is what is taught in J schools today.

    Also don’t believe a poll until you see the underlying demographics. The media says a lot of BS that is built on polling that does not reflect the nation. Polls that over estimate the percentage of democrats by 8-10% or more are not reflective of public opinion but they are reflective of the end the sponsor desired.

    With regard to OWS the most notable poll result is that half of Americans really don’t give a damn about them one way or another. 

    Conservatives need to stop being so fussed about the MSM and focus on other ways to get their message out.  When there are alternative routes for spreading information the MSM’s influence will decline further and we will develope a political class that is less likely to go sucking up to the leftist MSM and that will pay attention to where their support is getting it’s info.

  • GarandFan

    Fortunately, the ‘old media’s’ credibility is somewhat lower than that of a street walker or a politician.  And ‘old media’s’ bottom line shows it.

    Right, Time?  NewSpeak?  NYT’s?  LA Times?

    • jim_m

      With circulation dropping by 8% or more each year their time is limited.  About the only paper with increasing or stable circulation is the WSJ and that is the one paper the left targets as being too conservative.  Yet I know a lot of liberals who read it and they agree that the actual news content is far better than any other source. (fact is what you read in the WSJ often ends up on the networks or in the NYT in 2-3 days)

      The only other paper with stable circulation is the USA Today and the vast majority of that goes to hotels where they are ignored.

      • Stephen

        Oh look, Jim’s lying again.

        Jim: “the only paper with increasing or stable circulation is the WSJ …”

        “Newspaper circulation has been declining for decades, but the pace had been picking up in recent years, amid a reader shift to digital media and as some publishers have drastically curtailed distribution of their newspapers or abandoned print partially or all together for the Internet.

        The Wall Street Journal had average weekday circulation of 2.1 million as of Sept. 30, down by roughly 21,600 from the period ended March 31. The Journal moved past Gannett Co.’s (GCI) flagship USA Today as the largest U.S. newspaper in 2009.

        Jim: “The only other paper with stable circulation is the USA Today…”

        “USA Today kept its No. 2 spot with 1.8 million readers, off nearly 45,000 sequentially from 1.8 million readers. USA Today had been the biggest paper in the U.S. for a decade. The slump in business travel meant fewer copies of USA Today were sold to hotels, one of the paper’s historic strengths.

        The New York Times (NYT) kept the No. 3 rank at 1.2 million weekday readers, an improvement from 916,911 and continued to have the highest Sunday circulation, at 1.6 million, up from 1.4 million.”

        So the NYT grew by 300,000 subscribers while the WSJ and USA Today dropped – the exact opposite of what Jimmina said.

        Surprised? Don’t be. The guy literally just makes crap up.

        • angorki spytec

          Like this whole article?

        • Evil Otto

          The guy literally just makes crap up.

          You’re one to talk, drone. When you get called on a lie in a comment, you edit the comment and then refuse to admit it.

          • jim_m

            He also quotes stuff without ever providing a link so no one has any way to independently verify his claims.

          • Jwb10001

            and he’s sure, just absolutely sure that unicorn is a racist code word.

          • jim_m

            And he’s the first to make racist remarks about obama and then attribute them to what conservatives must be thinking.

          • Stephen

            You don’t know how to use Google yet?

            For shame. I thought you 12 year olds were into that whole Internets thing….

            How sad. He doesn’t dispute my facts, just claims he doens’t know who to google therefore he won’t admit that he just lied and made up facts that are totally untrue.

        • jim_m

          Are you kidding me?  WSJ circ drop 21k and you are comparing that to he NYT dropping 8%?

          WTF stephen?  If it was the government 21,600 would be considered rounding error. You are trying to say that 1% is similar to 3-8% year after year for the NYT?  Just a couple of years ago the WSJ was increasing in circulation.  They NYT has gone years without a circulation increase.
          year                  NYT                    WSJ
          2007-2008        -3.58%                 +0.1
          2008-2009        -7.3%                   +0.6
          2009-2010 -8.5
          2010-2011 -3.5%

          [edit] I finally found data for 2010 and 2011 NYT daily circ. Stillthe point is made that daily circ is in free fall for the last 4+ years[edit]

          STFU stephen.  You are a vulgar asshole and have demonstrated that you are incapable of understanding simple statements.  My data is for weekday circulation which is far more significant to the bottom line than for the Sunday edition. Nice job trying to cherry pick irrelevant data.

          You manage to compare weekday circulation to Sunday circulation. Those are well known to have very different markets, so you are comparing apples and oranges.

          • Adjoran

            You will have more success arguing with a brick wall – and get far more honest and intelligent responses, too.

          • Stephen

            And you made up bullshit and lied… and got vcaugft at it.

            And when you were caught you attacked the person who disputed your BS and proved you were a liar.

            I’m surprised. Even when I give you cold hard facts you’re still so incredibly stupid you mess that up.

            The New York Times (NYT) kept the No. 3 rank at 1.2 million weekday readers, an improvement from 916,911 and continued to have the highest Sunday circulation, at 1.6 million, up from 1.4 million.”

            The 300,000 gain I cited was the weekday readers, from 916,911 to 1.2 million. An increase of 33% percent.

            Jimm the moron: “My data is for weekday circulation which is far more significant to the bottom line than for the Sunday edition. Nice job trying to cherry pick irrelevant data.”

            Wrong again, you fatheaded idiot. I cited weekday figures.

            How is it that you can be so incredibly stupid? INCREDIBLY stupid…

          • jim_m

            once again Stephen runs away from the argument, having lost, and then tries to sneak in a BS response a full three days later.

            I provided 4 years of data supporting my position.

      • hank pfeffer

        Perhaps you should take a look at the Christian Science Monitor.

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  • ackwired

    It is too bad that the Tea Party thinks that they are in competition with  the OWS.  They have such similar goals.  They see the same threats to our democracy and to our capitalist system.  Granted, they are at opposite extremes when it comes to tactics.  But what would be possible if they sought common ground?

    • Evil Otto

      They have such similar goals.

      No. They don’t. The goal of the OWS mob is not to restore this country, it is to loot the wealthy. They seek more… more government, more money, more power.

      There is no common ground between the Tea Party and the Occupy movement, and anyone who thinks so has not studied the Occupiers.

      • OaklandBikeMedic

        You’re really more concerned about the differences between “liberal” activists and “conservative” activists than you are about our striking level of wealth disparity?

    • lasveraneras

      “[T]hey are at opposite extremes when it comes to tactics.”  What?  The key word there is tactics, not, for example, ideology.  So that statement needs some elaboration.  What is the “extreme” tactic that the TEA Party movement has employed?  Inquiring minds cry out for an answer.

      • Jwb10001

        He’s right the Tea Party is at the other extreme, they respect the areas they use for protest, they follow the rules and laws and get the proper permits to conduct their protest,  they pay fees and duties owed, they clean up after themselves without being told to,  OWS not so much.

        • OaklandBikeMedic

          The 1st Amendment is the permit. Let’s also consider that a huge piece of OWS’s mission was to feed the homeless as a demonstration of what would happen if we actually spent wealth where it was needed (not just fancied by the rich) as a society. Of course it was going to make chaos in the camps. But hey, if you want to overlook that in favor of pointing fingers at the behavior of those homeless people as if they were the entirety of OWS, well, I can’t stop you.

      • ackwired

        Fair question.  Tea Partiers seem to feel it is extremely important to work within the system to achieve their ends.  While working withing the system they are extremely uncompromising.  They were willing to go to the extreme of forcing the country to default on our debts if they didn’t get their way on raising the debt ceiling.
        The Occupiers, on the other hand, completely reject working within the system.  In their encampment they were trying new structures, searching for alternatives to the system.  They don’t even seem to know what they want.  They are only clear about what they reject.  It seems to me that these approaches are at opposite extremes.

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        lasveraneras wrote, in response to ackwired:
        “[T]hey are at opposite extremes when it comes to tactics.”  What?  The key word there is tactics, not, for example, ideology.  So that statement needs some elaboration.  What is the “extreme” tactic that the TEA Party movement has employed?  Inquiring minds cry out for an answer. Link to comment

        • Walter_Cronanty

          “They don’t even seem to know what they want.  They are only clear about what they reject.”  Yeah, you got that right:
          “Friends and relatives said Susan Poff and Robert Kamin of Oakland were the perfect pair to adopt a foster child.

          They had dedicated their careers to helping others escape poverty,
          she as a physician assistant in a city-run clinic in the Tenderloin and
          he as a clinical psychologist for inmates in the San Francisco County
          Jail system.

          But now, less than a decade after they adopted, their 15-year-old son
          stands accused of strangling both Poff, 50, and Kamin, 55, then hiding
          their bodies in the back of the family’s PT Cruiser….
          Co-workers said Poff and Kamin were having some arguments with their
          son, some of it having to do with him spending too much time in the
          Occupy Oakland encampment, but nothing that sounded beyond the scope of
          typical teenage rebelliousness.”
          Let’s see, 9 deaths at the parks, multiple rapes, tens of millions of dollars of damages, layoffs, and vandalism, crapping on police cars.  So, they,re rejecting working for a living, obeying the law, using restrooms, respecting private property, and paying for what they destroy.  And I should somehow stifle my belief that they should be evicted and sent to jail if they refuse exactly why?

          • ackwired

            So you start by agreeing with me and then try to pick a fight?  You actually seem to agree that the tactics are at opposite extremes.  What gave you the idea that I care whether you express your opinions??

  • hank pfeffer

    I am an Occupy San Diego Troublehealer.    

    This is my first ever suggestion for a Constitutional amendment. Political corruption, as defined below, shall be prosecuted as high treason to the United States of America………


    banana cases like you write articles over and over about OWS, you have tried so hard to tarnish the movement and it keeps going and going and growing and silly minds like your keep wasting the time in shutting so many AMERICANS, profesors, janitors, union members, teachers, pilots, fire men, nurses, journalists, STUDENTS of all level, VETERANS!  try one thing joke article, try RESPECT for real patriots that battle your low life bailed out bums Banktsatorship!  lousy clowns non patriots