Wealthy Michigan Teacher Upset She Can’t Retire at 47

It’s just unfair, isn’t it? I mean, if an $80,000-per-year, union protected, unfireable, teacher can’t retire at the extremely young age of 47 while the rest of us have to work into our 70s, well, what kind of world are we living in? That’s how teachers in Michigan feel, anyway.

Just ask the haughty Terri List, a Michigan public school teacher from Saginaw Township. She’s entirely disgusted with all those ignorant taxpayers — who vote in evil Republicans — that won’t let her retire at 70% of her salary at a sprightly 47-years-of-age. She’s so upset that she’s telling anyone that will listen that being a teacher isn’t worth the effort.

On the government union site run by the Michigan Education Association, Mz List is seen carping that waiting to retire at 60 is a travesty for the teaching profession. In what rotten world do people have to wait until they are 60 to retire, anyway!?

… only the rest of us, Mz List, only the rest of us. You know the “us” I’m speaking of Mz List? Yeah, the “us” that are with our taxes forced to pay your exorbitant salary, your overly generous benefits, and your retirement in your middle age.

A hike in the retirement age would be required by Michigan Senate Bill 1040, the legislation that has the unionistas of Michigan, including the greedy Mz List, all in an uproar.

I mean, imagine the arrogance, here? We have a woman that is earning upwards to $80,000 a year on the backs of taxpayers of Michigan who earn a median income of but $48,000 a year. We have a woman that thinks she’s entitled to retire at 47 when most other people can’t retire until their 70s — if they have the luxury of retiring at all. And we have a woman who will make around 70% of her income off the backs of the taxpayers for perhaps as long as 34 years, she doing nothing at all but soaking up the cash and enjoying herself while the rest of us have the burden to pay for her life of leisure.

Worse, like many of these people in “education,” its very possible if she retires so young that she’ll go to another school system, get hired there, and retire early yet again so that she can double dip her pension and make hundreds of thousands of dollars off the backs of the taxpayers!

And this woman is complaining?

At least some people are noticing these teacher’s arrogance and outsized sense of entitlement.

Leon Drolet, chairman of the Michigan Taxpayers Alliance, called List’s comments “amazing.”

“Wow. They have reached the politicians’ level of entitlement,” Drolet said. “She thinks she is entitled to retire at 47? Holy smokes. I don’t know what more to say to that. A government employee thinking that 47 is a reasonable expectation to retire shows just how deep inside their own bubble they live, insulated from the real world.”

That’s about right, isn’t it?

This whole episode is yet more proof that allowing government workers to unionize is the worst idea of all. Unions are anathema to good government.

All government unions should be eliminated forthwith.

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  • retired.military

    Remember that she is getting 70k a year for working 9 months and out of that 9 months she gets vacation and sick time as well.

    • TomInCali

      True, but don’t act like benefits are freebies tacked onto the salary. If she were working 12 months a year and didn’t get retirement benefits, then her base salary would be higher. As with any job, it’s the total compensation that is negotiated.

      • jim_m

         I think the disconnect comes because the teachers feel like they should have their salaries extended for the full 12 months (ie they should be paid 33% more), and the public thinks that their salaries are exorbitant given that they do not work the full 12 months for what they are paid. 

        One side thinks they are paid too little and their words reflect the feeling that they are missing out on an opportunity to collect 3 months of pay.  The other side feels like they are paying for 12 months and only getting 9.

        And that’s the problem:  The public pays the taxes that pay the teacher salaries, but the public officials set those salaries and the public officials take in millions in campaign contributions from the teacher’s unions. Now the teacher’s want early retirement on our dime?  I think not.

        • TomInCali

          Where have you ever heard a teacher say their salary should be proportionately increased to cover the 3 months they don’t work? I know many teachers, and I’ve never heard any of them espouse that view. In fact, teachers here have the option to take their salaries in either 9 or 12 monthly paychecks. So any perception that they’re being paid for 9 months or 12 months is adjustable by them.

          One can certainly argue that salaries and/or benefits for government employees are out of control. But that is not limited to teachers and unions. A Congressperson makes $174,000, and Congress is in session for only 6 months of the year. A one-term Senator is eligible for a full pension. Do you think the Congress union is responsible for that?

          A Congressperson with 25 years experience can get a full pension at ANY age. That teacher who wants to retire at 47 would have put in 30 years by that point. An argument can be made about extreme pension benefits, but I find it odd that workers in one of the hardest jobs there is is your target for that criticism.

          • c

            30 yearsin at age 47! seriously! hers a flash card 47 – 30 = 17

  • LiberalNightmare

    Well, I’m sure she’ll make up for her disappointment by doing a really crappy job.

  • Evil Otto

    Clearly I chose the wrong state to teach in. I’m making half her salary, and don’t get to retire until my mid-sixties (and face it, with the economic tidal wave that’s coming, it’s doubtful that a lot of us will be able to retire at all).

    Of course, to get the deal that this parasite is whining about, I’d have to teach in (shudder) Michigan, so I suppose it’s a decent trade-off.

    • Sheik Yerbouti

      Cut out the Detroit Metro area, Flint, and Ann Arbor and Michigan would be one of the most desirable places to live in the US.
      My own area, in fact, is always in the top ten in various publications’ lists, and was recently rated numero uno by Forbes.
      Believe me, Otto – if you taught at just about any school around here, you’d think you died and went to heaven.

      • LiberalNightmare

         I grew up in Flint, went back for a visit a few years ago.
        Best thing for it now would be to plow it under and forget it was ever there.

        • Sheik Yerbouti

          Amen. My sister and brother-in-law made a horrible mistake about 20 years ago, when he was transferred and they chose Flint over Petoskey. They lived in Washington at the time, weren’t at all familiar with Michigan, and listened to some bozo who advised them that Petoskey was a backwater hick town.

      • Commander_Chico

        Like the Zappa reference.

        • Sheik Yerbouti

          Love the Marty Feldman avi!

  • Jwb10001

    I was just forced out of my job after 39 1/2 years, my retirement is less than 40% of my pay (I’m among the lucky ones with an old time retirement.) I’m have some difficulty working up much sympathy for this poor 47 year old leach.

  • Hugh_G

    “By the time I’m 60, I would have put in 43 years of service, earning a salary at the top of the pay scale. How does that save the district money? You could hire two people for the cost of one and encourage young people to join the profession. Right now, I would not recommend to my pupils to become a teacher in Michigan.”

    Just a part of the rest of the story – the real story. Shock of shocks, something taken completely out-of-context to fulfill the author’s prejudices.

    • gtrslm

      Apparently she started teaching young…17 according to her math. As for it being cheaper to let her retire at 47 then continue to pay her inflated salary, she conveniently forgets to factor in the 60 grand she would be pulling in for probably 30+ years while providing no benefit at all to the taxpayers. Plus, the cost of a teacher to replace her.

      • Jwb10001

        Yes see that’s how the math works she gets 60K in retirement and they pay a new teacher 45K that’s a total of 105K clearly that’s less than 80K. Not to mention the cost of benefits for 2 teachers instead of 1 that doubles the savings. You’re clearly a racist.

  • Commander_Chico

    In a few years, when I turn 60, I’ll be pulling in about $2800 a month for my military reserve pension.  I had ten years active duty and about fifteen as a weekend warrior.  

    I’ll be able to live like a sultan in Thailand, Malaysia, or the Philippines.  Suck on that.

    • SCSIwuzzy

      Have fun with your underage trannies, CC

      • Commander_Chico

        Here’s a picture of my archetype:

        • chicka’s original un-edited text:

          Here’s a picture of me:

          • Commander_Chico

            You got me!

          • Guest

            For shame! For shame! lol.

    • Don’t let the doorknob hit you in the ass on your way out.

      Pray there is no Democratic Administration once you do, or your retirement will likely become just the latest example of a promise made by the United States Government that came with an undisclosed expiration date.

      • Commander_Chico

        Like Ryan’s promising to shut down Medicare and loot Social Security?

        Military pensions will be the last to go – too much danger of a coup d’etat in that one.

        • jim_m

           That’s grossly dishonest and unworthy of even you.

        • Jwb10001

          Good Lord Chico really?

          • Commander_Chico

            What, didn’t you see The Rock?

          • We believe that you believe that.

          • Commander_Chico

            What’s it like, having no sense of humor?

          • What’s it like being a contemptible troll?

  • mgd2

    The example of the 47 year old is certainly not typical of the vast majority of teachers retiring in Michigan.  I also don’t believe that her retirement income could possibly be as high as what is being said.  At 30 years, the formula for calculating pensions would come out to be about 50 percent of the final 3 year average, and that would be without allowing for any survivor benefits for a spouse.  Most retired teachers from Michigan that I know get less than 25,000 as a pension before paying Federal tax, and now state tax, and then for their health insurance premiums plus deductibles and co-pays.  The ones I know are certainly not living an extraordinary lifestyle on what they receive in pension benefits.

    • Jwb10001

      Sorta like the rest of us, if we’re lucky?