Greeks go to the polls to decide if they want to go bankrupt slowly or rapidly

The disaster of the Greek economy proceeds as they go to the polls today. In the Wall Street Journal we hear that it’s a close race:

ATHENS—Greece’s conservatives and radical left Syriza parties were in a statistical dead heat in a race too close to call, early exit polls showed Sunday, an outcome that could fuel investor fears over further political uncertainty in the 17-nation euro zone and coming just hours before the first Asia-Pacific markets open for trade.

The left wants to tell the rest of the EU to go pound sand. The right fantasizes that it can stay in the European Union, but renegotiate its debt with it’s creditors. Neither is particularly likely to be able to do anything but default. What I can’t figure out is why they haven’t already declared bankruptcy. After all, it was the foolish European banks that lent Greece all those billions of Euros at such low interest rates. Take a look at this chart from data published by the European Central Bank (ECB):

What fool thought that Greece was suddenly going to be a good risk when its currency was denominated in Euros instead of Drachmas?

Why not just declare bankruptcy? Why do they have to leave the Euro? That’s a question the

Grumpy Economist John Cochrane has been asking for months. Here’s an excerpt from a recent post:

There is an option. Sovereign default. Let banks fail — meaning their senior debt becomes equity and they are recapitalized. Good banks buy the assets of bad banks. But the Europeans probably won’t have the stomach for it.

He then quotes from Paul Krugman, who was reasonably predicting that the bad risk countries would soon leave the Euro in a “bank jog”, as opposed to a run.

This demonstration that the euro is, in fact, reversible would lead, in turn, to runs on Spanish and Italian banks. Once again the European Central Bank would have to choose whether to provide open-ended financing; if it were to say no, the euro as a whole would blow up.

back to Cochrane.

Comment. Right again. The only thing keeping any money in Spanish and Italian banks is the idea that leaving the euro really can’t happen. Once it’s clear that exit, devaluation — along with likely currency controls, bank closures, deposit seizures, and sky-high wealth taxes — are on the table, the run will start in earnest.

He continues:

The euro was explicitly set up as a currency union without a fiscal union. (And it turned in to one without a bank regulatory union.) That can work, a fact which practically all commentators ignore.

The central ingredient is: sovereigns who can’t pay their bills default. The European central bank does not print up euros to bail out sovereign creditors, either directly or via the subterfuge of lending to banks who then buy the sovereign debt.

The euro was explicitly set up this way. The main problem is, when the crisis came, nobody bothered to read the instruction manual.

Arnold Kling adds:

Actually, my understanding of the instruction manual is that governments were supposed to operate with responsible budgets. People did read the manual–and ignored it.
Which is the primary source of the crisis?

(a) trying to use a common currency when labor is not mobile between countries

(b) governments running unsustainable budgets

I vote for (b). However, you will not see many commentators on the left shouting from the rooftops that (b) is a problem. Instead, they do the opposite when they decry any attempt to rein in deficit spending as “austerity.”

A lot of people want you to believe that the progressive agenda is the victim of Angela Merkel and Paul Ryan. But an alternative perspective would suggest that it is the victim of arithmetic.

Back to the Wall Street Journal on the election:

Any new government will face Olympian hurdles as soon as it takes office, with a central administration threatened by a cash crunch within weeks, an economy in free fall and an angry public exhausted by two years of successive austerity measures.

Greece’s reform program is also well off track, following weeks of political paralysis. The first task facing Sunday’s winner will be to come up with €11.5 billion ($14.5 billion)—maybe more—of new austerity measures being demanded by the country’s creditors but which could further inflame public opinion.

As Arnold is wont to say, “Have a nice day.”

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  • retired.military

    Just remember. THe left wants the US to be more like Europe.

    • Guest

      Just remember, some asses on the right havent’ a clue as to what the left wants for America.

  • Stan Brewer

    The Euro is another one of the major failures of Socialism. The European left thought by combining all of the countries into one economic zone, they could compete with the United States. They figured on rebuilding the old Roman Empire and as we all know Rome was a dismal failure.

    • Commander_Chico

      Yeah Rome only lasted 500 years or so, or maybe 1500 years depending how you’re counting.

      • jim_m

        Actually, Rome was a hell of a lot more successful that the Euro. I’m reading Churchill’s History of the English Speaking Peoples and you cannot escape the fact that the Roman Empire was so very much more advanced than what came after. The EU does not hold a candle to Rome.

    • jim_m

      The Euro is designed to work with a command economy and cannot work without price controls, The former system of multiple currencies allowed for weak economies to have currencies that weakened and created better export markets and thus helped weak economies recover. That mechanism of automatic adjustment went away with the euro.

      Now when a nation’s economy weakens the currency cannot lose value so they experience local price inflation without the benefit of having their goods and services become more affordable elsewhere.

  • Commander_Chico

    You can’t have a monetary union without a fiscal union. The Germans might have to pay, but then again they’ve been doing very well from their advantages in the Eurozone.

    More countries should let their banks fail for their mistakes, the way Iceland did. Screw the bailouts. Why should the Spanish have to pay for the failure of Bankia?

    I hope the Greeks tell the European bankers to eff off. They might have a tough time of it, but it’s better than debt slavery for a credit bubble and CDSs.

    • jim_m

      You can’t have a monetary union without a fiscal union.

      Bingo. The Answer is to create a European super state, but that simply isn’t possible politically except through what would amount to a coup of multiple national governments.

      The Greeks should dump the euro and take back their old currency. Short term it will be very painful, but long term they will reap the benefits.

      • Commander_Chico

        We agree! Greeks gotta be Greeks, they’re not Germans. Plus, their manufacturing sector has probably suffered from German and other Euro imports.

        • herddog505

          What manufacturing sector??? Based on what little I’ve read, the primary economic activities in Greece are working for their government (which produces jack sh*t) and dodging taxes. They don’t appear to manufacture much of anything, which is part of their problem.

          • Commander_Chico

            Just about every country has some consumer goods manufacturing, small electricals and things like soap, etc.

            Here’s a 2006 article: http://www.balkanalysis.com/blog/2006/01/08/the-greek-manufacturing-sector-upcoming-prospects-for-the-key-players/

          • herddog505

            I was speaking somewhat hyperbollically, but it seems that Greece ain’t exactly a manufacturing powerhouse. According to the CIA World Factbook, 15% of Greece’s GDP comes from tourism, and a whopping 40% from their public sector.
            https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/gr.html
            So, I amend my statement:
            Based on what little I’ve read, the primary economic activities in Greece are working for their government (which produces jack sh*t), showing tourists the natural splendors of Greece and the relicts of when it was a worthwhile country, and dodging taxes.

          • Commander_Chico

            Agriculture’s in there too, olive oil, wine, grape leaves, feta cheese, yum.

      • Guest

        Another aspect to this: When it comes to austerity measures and the like, it’s one thing for Germany to tell you what you have to do under pain of bankruptcy. It’s quite another to make the decisions yourself.

  • herddog505

    Out of curiosity, exactly what constitutes “austerity” for Greece? Would I be wrong to suspect that it consists of just enough cuts to p*ss people off but not enough to do any real good?

  • GarandFan

    I don’t have to worry here in Kalifornia. Our wonderful Democratic dominated legislature has passed a “realistic and balanced budget”. Just like last year.

    Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ackwired

    The Greeks were broke before they joined the Euro. They may have looked to the Euro membership to save their insolvency. They had to misrepresent their finances to join, and who did they turn to for help? The world wide experts in fraudulant debt, a Wall Street Bank (Goldman Sachs).
    It could be argued that Greece defrauded Europe in joining the Euro, and now expects Germany to repay their loans for them.
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/greek-debt-crisis-how-goldman-sachs-helped-greece-to-mask-its-true-debt-a-676634.html

  • Idahoser

    “…go to the polls to decide if they want to go bankrupt slowly or rapidly”
    What country does not fit that right now? It’s precisely the ‘choice’ we’ll be making in November.

  • 914

    Looks like they are using the Obama roadmap with a sharpened hockey stick to ensure a quick kill.

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