Obamacare Ruling Could Come Today

Consider this a Supreme Court open thread. Give us your best guess of what you think will happen today – assuming a decision is announced.

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  • Vagabond661

    If ruled unconstitutional, you would expect this administration to start back pedaling. However, lately, when faced with their own hypocrisy, they doubled down and proclaimed it even more. My best guess? They will double down.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Murphy/100001624276605 Ryan Murphy

    He’ll promise to try to impost Obamacare by executive order, damn the american people and damn the judicial system, I am God-Emperor of. . . erm. I mean the President!”

  • Brucepall

    When asked to explain in front of the Supremes the Federal government’s legal opinion and position of the boundaries of the Commerce Clause, the Solicitor General of the United States replied, “There are no temporal limits to the Commerce Clause.”

    This is the money quote. And why the ACA should receive nine X-ring bullet holes from SCOTUS.

    Semper Fidelis-

    • Brucepall

      I just read through the Supreme’s ruling on SEIU’s special assessment… where the majority came down on the side of the individual’s rights under the 1st amendment and against the SEIU collective. Bravo to the majority for standing up for individual freedom!

      I read the whole thing, including Justice Breyer’s dissent… and I was stunned to read how Justice Breyer so easily and cavalierly dismisses an individual’s 1st amendment rights (just wow!)

      I thought those who champion the people over the powerful, were proud to claim the mantel of “liberal”… as in Justice Breyer is supposed to be a “liberal” justice of the Supreme Court. But after reading his dissent, and how he is more than willing to trample on individual freedoms, I see now that its not the Liberals, but the Conservative members of the Court, who are the actual champions of the individual against the power of the organized collective/state.

      So in regards to the Supreme’s upcoming ACA ruling, I’m going to change my assessment that the Supreme’s will come down on the side of individual freedom 9 to zero… as its looking more and more like Mr. Graves is right, in that it could be 8 to 1, or 7 to 2.

      Semper Fidelis-

  • retired.military

    It will be a 5-4 decision overturning Obamacare completely. The administration will within 2 weeks implement parts via executive fiat. The cries of racism against the decision will abound despite the fact that Thomas is African American.

    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      I’m thinking 7-2 or 8-1.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Murphy/100001624276605 Ryan Murphy

        I highly doubt even one of the liberal justices will even think about voting against it …

      • retired.military

        Rodney. Wnat to bet. Say 10 bucks to the others favorite charity on who is right? If 5-4 or 6-3 than I win other wise you win. If found constitutional than we (along with the rest of the US) lose.

        • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

          I’ll go with 7-2 (or better) overturning against 5-4 with 6-3 as a push.

  • http://opinion.ak4mc.us/ McGehee

    My prediction? The Obamacare ruling won’t be today, but will be among the last rulings announced for the term.

  • retired.military

    The ruling will be 5-4 and will overturn Obamacare completey. Within 2 weeks Obama will try to implement most of it via executive fiat and also announce regulations against private insurance companies. Cries of racism will abound from almost every MSM “news reporter”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      Whether for or against, I’m pretty sure there’s going to be a 6-3 ruling. This seems large enough to have Chief Justice Roberts write the majority opinion.

      • jim_m

        So you are convinced that which ever way it is decided that Roberts will vote with the Majority? Usually it’s Kennedy who is cited as the swing vote. You must know something that no other SCOTUS observer has noticed.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

          When the hearings occurred, Roberts made inclinations for both sides. But wherever Kennedy votes on this, Roberts is sure to follow. This doesn’t happen often, but I’m sure that such a monumental health plan might be given an opinion by the Chief Justice.

  • Brian_R_Allen

    Sufficient forward financing was insidiously inserted into the authorizing legislation that will facilitate Zero’s Gangster Government to push on with the fascistic power grab that, by any other name, is all Obamacare was, is or ever will be!

    Meanwhile the gangsters will go through the motions of complying with the SCOTUS adjudication.

  • herddog505

    I agree with retired.military and Ryan Murphy: what the SCOTUS does or doesn’t do, today or any other day, is irrelevant. Barry has clearly demonstraed, by his courageous, historic, unprecedented announcement that he won’t enforce laws that he doesn’t like, that the law means jack-sh*t to him. He’ll go right ahead with health care “reform” by presidential fiat to the applause of lefties who will swoon that the dictator is doing “the right thing”.

    • Guest

      You must be referring to Obama’s decision to go lax on illegal immigrant rules.

      Just like Bush 43, Clinton 42, Bush 41 and Reagan 40 did.

      Each of those presidents chose at one time to relax enforcement of immigration laws.

      Just like Obama.

      What’s the difference? How is Obama different from the 4 presidents who preceded him? What about Obama is it that makes white wing conservatives hate him so much? Hmmmm….

      • GarandFan

        And how much flack did they get from the public for doing so? You think that your Obamassiah is the only one to take heat? Or is your memory that short?

        • herddog505

          Yeah, I especially remember when Bush tried to get amnesty (through the legal mechanism of having a law passed by Congress, it must be noted) back in ”07 – 08: jebus, he was SAVAGED by conservatives.

          Kathryn Lopez had this (among other things) to say at the time:

          Does the president just not care what his conservative allies on so many issues think?

          I know I’m not the only one who sometimes suspects the latter.
          On May 28, the president said: “If you want to kill the bill, if you don’t want to do what’s right for America, you can pick one little aspect out of it, you can use it to frighten people. Or you can show leadership and solve this problem once and for all.”

          The next morning, on her radio show, Laura Ingraham said that the president had “taken his gloves off to punch us.” Her statement came as part of a monologue in which she chronicled everything she had hated about the Bush administration — Dubai ports, failed Social Security reform. She had taken these “body blows” and continued to stand up for President Bush. We believed in him. There were bigger things at stake than one battle. There’s a war on. But he sure has a weird was of showing his love to his political allies. As she played “thank you for being a friend” from the theme song of The Golden Girls, Laura dubbed the moment: “Conservatives left behind.”

          http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/221217/conservatives-left-behind/kathryn-jean-lopez#

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

          Uhm… The people are firmly against the deportation and ill treatment of illegals nowadays…

          • GarandFan

            Oh? “The people” are? Where’d you pick up that nugget, MSNBC?

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

            Nope

            Might want to pay attention to the numbers. People hate how the laws have been enforced and Obama threw Latinos a bone while Republicans are stuck with bad policies. Might not want to piss off a huge voting block that can affect an election…

          • GarandFan

            Depending on how a question is asked, you can get any “numbers” you want. Yeah Barry threw a bone. And that’s all he did.

          • Digg34

            Just like you said..don’t piss off a huge VOTING block….threw Latino’s a bone. Pure pandering tripe from Obama. The hispanics should be insulted at being treated like dogs. Democrats would have all the minorities trained like pavlov’s dog.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

            Given Romney’s response to them so far, I think its more a love/hate relationship anyway. They like him personally, but his policies suck (but they’re better than Romney who wants them to self-deport)

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Murphy/100001624276605 Ryan Murphy

            You mean he wants them to go ahead and quietly obey the laws of the country? How ABSOLUTELY horrible!!!

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

            Given Romney’s response to them so far, I think its more a love/hate relationship anyway. They like him personally, but his policies suck (but they’re better than Romney who wants them to self-deport)

          • retired.military

            I think about 65%-85% of the hispanics voted for Obama last election. How much more in the tank are they going to go for him? Do you do what is right or do you follow the wind and hope they reelect you? Well we have Obama’s answer.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

            RM, I am disappointed that even you can’t see how Romney is not the answer when he’s pandering hard right.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Murphy/100001624276605 Ryan Murphy

            Hard right? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

            ANd what exactly is Obama doing right now? It sure as all heck ain’t pandering to the center!

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

            As compared to Romney’s policies? Nice flipping, but what’s Romney going to do now that he won’t tell people if he’ll overturn Obama’s decision?

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

            RM, I am disappointed that even you can’t see how Romney is not the answer when he’s pandering hard right.

          • jim_m

            The people are not composed of you and your dog. try and get out a little bit. There are a lot of people who want the immigration laws enforced. There are people who are waiting through the process and don’t like the implication of obama jumping illegal immigrants to the front of the line.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

            HA! How many Latinos want to vote for Romney?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Murphy/100001624276605 Ryan Murphy

            Yeah, that actually enforcing the law thing is SO passe …

      • retired.military

        Dont you have Obama mom porn to go look at Mr Chickenshit?

  • Stan Brewer

    The ruling won’t be today. The reason why is that most of the Court rulings are issued on Mondays. So I look for the ruling around noon et this coming Monday. However, the court could fool us all and rule tomorrow, when the Friday document dumps occur.

  • Conservachef

    SCOTUSblog has started liveblogging the rulings. http://scotusblog.wpengine.com/

    Beyond that, I hope it is struck down en masse. However, I may simply be jaded, but I fear that it will be nit-picked a little and mostly left alone.

    I expect that Obama is already penning some Executive Orders to keep parts of Obamacare running, “just in case.”

    • Conservachef

      Update- SCOTUSblog acts like the court has handed down all the rulings it’s going to for the day. No word on Obamacare- will have to wait until Monday, probably.

      • http://wizbangblog.com Kevin

        We can pick this up again next week :-)

        • Conservachef

          True that. I think they are dragging it out just to torture us and drum up some interest in SCOTUS proceedings.

  • ackwired

    Regardless of what the Supreme Court does, there will remain much work to be done to fix health care. Whoever is in control of congress in 2013 faces some real challenges in this area.

    • Vagabond661

      Get the government out of it and make it available across state lines. Done.

  • Wild_Willie

    Obamacare gone. Most of Arizona law upheld. ww

  • Laddie_Blah_Blah

    Scalia has given a strong hint that he will be willing to go beyond a finding that the individual mandate is un-Constitutional, and all the way to finding that the SC decision of 1942 in Wickard v. Filburn should be reversed. The Filburn case established the commerce clause as having precedence over rights supposedly guaranteed by the Constitution, specifically property rights guaranteed by the 4th and 5th amendments in the Bill of Rights.

    It was the precedent set with that decision which Obamacare proponents cite as the reason why they believe the individual mandate passes constitutional muster.

    Maybe not with the pending Obamacare decision, but, eventually, the Filburn decision will be reversed, and with it will go the rationale for negating our property rights under the commerce clause.

  • 914

    Can already see the occupoopers lining up outside of the right Judges homes. And Grumpy taking a dump on the front yard, like he does all the time on here..

  • ombdz

    Politically, whether the Court strikes down just the individual mandate or the whole thing doesn’t make much difference. ObamaCare is about much more than healthcare. It’s become a symbol for all Obama believes in. If the Court strikes any or all of it down, Republicans would be guilty of political malpractice if they can’t turn this into an indictment of Obama’s entire worldview … http://bit.ly/MNPtxY

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