Egyptians Celebrate Muslim Brotherhood Victory By Raping Another Journalist

British journalist Natasha Smith describes, in great detail, her horrifying ordeal at the hands of hundreds of men gathered in Tafir Square to celebrate the nation’s presidential election results.

The atmosphere was one of jubilation, excitement, and happiness as I walked, accompanied by two male companions for safety along Kasr El Nil bridge. I had had an awful day, caused by problems in personal relationships, so I was so happy to be in such a wonderful environment, getting such amazing footage. Women, children and fathers smiled, waved, and cheered happily at the camera, calling out the widely used phrase “welcome to Egypt! Welcome!”. Fireworks lit up the sky. It was a moving and captivating experience.

Just as I realised I had reached the end of the bridge, I noticed the crowd became thicker, and decided immediately to turn around to avoid Tahrir Square. My friends and I tried to leave. I tried to put my camera back in my rucksack.

But in a split second, everything changed. Men had been groping me for a while, but suddenly, something shifted. I found myself being dragged from my male friend, groped all over, with increasing force and aggression. I screamed. I could see what was happening and I saw that I was powerless to stop it. I couldn’t believe I had got into this situation.

…Men began to rip off my clothes. I was stripped naked. Their insatiable appetite to hurt me heightened. These men, hundreds of them, had turned from humans to animals.

Hundreds of men pulled my limbs apart and threw me around. They were scratching and clenching my breasts and forcing their fingers inside me in every possible way. So many men. All I could see was leering faces, more and more faces sneering and jeering as I was tossed around like fresh meat among starving lions.

Smith eventually was able to escape this terrifying mob, but her ordeal is very similar to that of CBS’s Lara Logan, though in that case CBS underplayed the details of what happened.

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Posted by on June 27, 2012.
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  • GarandFan

    According to Sharia law she wasn’t “raped”.

    • retired.military

      If her OBGYN was doing a sonogram though it would be considered rape.
      To be honest reading the last paragraph reminded me of some cheap penthouse porn stories I used to read 30+ years ago.

      • Commander_Chico

        Yeah, I thought the same thing, read like porn. But maybe we’re perverts.

        • retired.military

          Just you.

          • Commander_Chico

            Okay, if you say so. You can go back to your Penthouse letters now.

    • jim_m

      Hell, according to grumpy, chico and Bruce she wasn’t raped. If you apply the same standard they want to apply to SWATting, then until she ponies up real proof that can get someone arrested she is just spewing a bunch of lies.

      Either that or they are a bunch of hypocritical swine.

      • herddog505

        Even more:

        This is nothing more than a p*ssing match between a (small-time) journalist and some guys we’ve never heard of. Hardly of world-wide importance.

        Or, shorter:

        Meh.

      • Commander_Chico

        If what she said is true, it was rape (penetration). But Egyptian society if for Egyptians to regulate. The USA cannot control Egypt.

        There’s also an argument that the MB might bring in a harsh regime that would punish these guys severely.

        Male sexual desire is a river that can’t be dammed – if you don’t give an outlet for it by access to females, it finds an ugly way – prison rape, bachabazi, and priest pederasty are other examples.

        Religious cultural norms that block access between men and women lead inevitably to this kind of thing. Strict Islamic societies are not the only example, nor does it seem to be a problem in non-Arab Muslim countries like Turkey and Indonesia.

  • warnertoddhuston

    Islam is a disease on humanity.

    • ackwired

      Putting all of islam in the same category is a mistake. The Sufi tradition is the source of spiritual thoughts and writings that are an inspiration to the more spiritual members of all religions.

      • LiberalNitemare

        Tell that to Natasha Smith

        • ackwired

          I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that she is a stereotyping bigot because was gang raped. She may have reacted that way. But the fact that she was there in a journalistic capacity would suggest that she looks for the differences in people rather than stereotyping them.

      • warnertoddhuston

        I disagree. It all leads to the same authoritarian, collectivist, murderous, rage-filled, shackle on the mind. Just like liberalsim, communism, socialism, Nazism. All the same stuff just spelled different.

        • ackwired

          Gee. All these years all of the scholars got it wrong. And here it was all so simple all of the time.

        • ryan a

          “It all leads to the same authoritarian, collectivist, murderous, rage-filled, shackle on the mind.”

          No, it doesn’t. That is such an ignorant statement it’s almost shocking. Do you really believe this?

        • Guest

          Wow, Warner. Completely, totally wrong. If you knew even a scintilla about Middle East politics, you would realize that some of the best hope to change the culture lies with … the liberals! That is, a relatively small segment of society that is socially liberal, opposed both to the deposed autocrats and to extreme Islamism.

          • jim_m

            I think you confuse the usage of the word “liberals”. In the context of western (and US) politics, “liberal” means a person who adheres to socialist, if not communist, ideology and is identified by their belief that the state is the source of all economic growth and that rights are bestowed by the state and find their origin there and are not inherent in being human.

            You confuse this with the idea of a cultural liberal in the middle east, who is tolerant of religious diversity, possibly believes in women’s rights, and believes in democracy. These are the people that the western left actually opposes. The western left supports the radical islamists as evidenced by 0bama’s swift recognition of the new president of Egypt.

          • Guest

            That’s not what Warner said, Jim. He said “liberals.” Let him defend his own statement.

          • Guest

            More to the point: Warner did not distinguish between “cultural” liberalism and “political” liberalism. He only said “liberalism.”

          • jim_m

            Either way, the issue is how the word is interpreted. I offered my interpretation. Mine is at least as valid as yours until WTH comes and clarifies himself, at which point one or both of us will be proven wrong.

      • herddog505

        I don’t know about Sufi traditions, spiritual thoughts and writings, or inspiration in Islam, but I do agree: putting all Muslims in the same category is a mistake. It’s akin to lumping all us Christians in with Fred Phelps.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Murphy/100001624276605 Ryan Murphy

          As disgusting, repugnant and completely without positive virtue as Phelps is, how many people has he raped or killed? Playing this equivalence game when you know very well there is not a real equivalence is disingenuous at the very least.

          • herddog505

            I don’t see that I’m making an equivalence.
            The initial statement is that Islam is a disease. I object on the grounds that, just because a relatively small number of Muslims are beasts and monsters, this does not indict all of their coreligionists. In the same manner, just because Fred Phelps is an a**hole, this does not indict all Christians (his alleged coreligionists, God help us).

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Fred Phelps and his words vs. thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, suicide bombers, homosexual stoners, female genitalia mutilators, rapists, etc. How many Muslims very publicly condemn their terrorists vs the millions of Christians, be they liberal or fundamentalist, Catholic or Protestant, who condemn Fred Phelps? How many Christians hold up Fred Phelps as a model for their children vs. how many Muslims hold up terrorists as models for their children?
            Really, get a grip. There is no equivalence – none at all. While I agree that not all Muslims, perhaps even a majority of Muslims, do not favor/condone terrorism, the sane Muslims had better do something to take back their religion from the monsters who currently own it.

          • herddog505

            Walter_CronantyWhile I agree that not all Muslims, perhaps even a majority of Muslims, do not favor/condone terrorism, the sane Muslims had better do something to take back their religion from the monsters who currently own it.

            I agree with you. When some imam or ayatollah or whatever they are called issues a fatwa saying that it’s OK to kill people who happen to be Jewish or Christian or American or apostates or whatever, and the rest of his coreligionists nod their head or at most stay mum, it’s hard to escape the conclusion that they think it’s a swell idea.

    • herddog505

      Let’s not gallop too far ahead of the field.

      According to various articles (including Wiki*), about a quarter of the human race is Muslim. Most of them appear to live the same sort of quiet, mundane, inoffensive lives that members of other religions do.

      Are there animals who call themselves Muslim? Yes. Are there strains of Islam that condone if not outright call for treating women like cattle and death to “infidels”? Unquestionably.

      But “a disease on humanity”? No.

      If I may offer a few anecdotes from my brother during his tour as a peacekeeper in Bosnia:

      1. There was a hotel in their area that overlooked a deep river gorge. It earned the sobriquet “Hotel F*ck-n-Chuck” as Serbians – Christians – would take Bosnian Muslim women to it, rape and abuse them, then chuck them out any convenient window into the raging torrent far below. I trust, despite this horror, that nobody would refer to Christianity as a “disease on humanity”;

      2. One of the translators that my brother’s unit worked with was a Bosnian Serb (Christian). Before going to work for the US Army, he had worked for the Serbian army. Nice job: Bosnian Muslims would kneel down in front of him, and he’d shoot them in the back of the neck with a pistol. Again, I trust that nobody would use this as a reason to refer to Christianity as a “disease on humanity”;

      3. My brother became acquainted with several Bosnian Muslims; understandably, they had at least some fondness for Americans as we were doing something to stop them winding up in mass graves. My brother once saw several of them enjoying a beer at the end of the day and asked if this wasn’t a violation of their religion.

      “We aren’t SAUDIS,” they chuckled.

      Finally, I add that I am and have been acquainted with Muslims and have not found them to be a disease on humanity. In one particular case, if she was a disease, then I would have LOVED to have caught it!

      Now that I think of it, she had quite a lot to say about the idea that women are supposed to be subservient to men, and none of it good.

      ===

      (*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam

      • jim_m

        You ignorantly conflate what has been a standard act in the east (and only in the last few centuries abandoned in the west) of raping civlian women in war zones. Go back to WWII and learn of the atrocities committed in yugoslavia by various factions. These people have ethnic hatreds that go back centuries and you are a fool to think that these hatreds are not at the source of at least some of this behavior.

        You might do a little reading where you will learn that it is also common for muslim men to rape male prisoners of war.

        Muslims are not a disease on humanity and WTH did not say so. But their religion is.

        • herddog505

          Tomato, tomahto.

          I am not prepared to condemn an entire religion (especially when I know and like some of its adherents) because a few a**holes who also happen to be adherents did a despicable thing.

          • ryan a

            Exactly. Well stated.

          • Guest

            This.

          • relozory@012.net.il relozory@0

            Absolutely! Instead, condemn the ones who FOUNDED the religions & their doctrines, like the auto-da-fe that the church forced onto people. Why did they stop their evil tortures? Was this infallible church wrong DURING these tortures or after ordering the cessation? Either way, they logically had to be wrong at one time even according to their own logic! Was Mohammed wrong for bedding a young woman on the very night after having murdered her father, brother & husband???

        • Commander_Chico

          The biggest mass rape since Ghengis Khan was the Red Army in Germany.

          • jim_m

            Apparently, you have never read of the sack of Constantinople.

          • Commander_Chico

            I guess we could throw in the Rape of Nanking. Has little to do with Islam, has a lot to do with males in a conquest.

          • jim_m

            Or you could read War of Wars, about the Napoleonic wars and review the section about napoleon’s campaign in Egypt and how the muslim’s raped, castrated and then murdered French POW’s. It’s OK because it’s just a cultural thing with them.

          • Commander_Chico

            I’m sure Napoleon’s troops didn’t rape any Egyptian women.

          • jim_m

            Actually, I’m pretty sure they did.

          • Commander_Chico

            So what’s your point?

          • relozory@012.net.il relozory@0

            Really? Arabs claim Jews are racist because they don’t rape Arab women in war. That means that Arabs would rape, but why in the world don’t Jews???

      • FelixKrull

        There was a hotel in their area that overlooked a deep river gorge. It earned the sobriquet “Hotel F*ck-n-Chuck” as Serbians – Christians – would take Bosnian Muslim women to it, rape and abuse them, then chuck them out any convenient window into the raging torrent far below.

        Bullshit.

        • Commander_Chico

          That’s a proven fact established by the International Criminal Court trials of the Serbian war criminals.

          • retired.military

            Got any links to a decent site (not joesmoe.com) to prove it.

          • Commander_Chico

            Yes, the site of the court which convicted the rapists, you can check out the names on this indictment who were convicted:

            http://www.icty.org/sid/7334

            http://www.icty.org/sections/TheCases/JudgementList

            http://www.haguejusticeportal.net/index.php?id=8898

            It’s proven by the court these rape camps happened.

          • FelixKrull

            I’m having a bit of trouble finding the part about the Hump’n'Dump Hotel where you threw the girl out of the window, down a cliff and into a frothing river once you’d finished raping her. Could you perhaps be a bit more specific? A quote would be helpful.

            Also, I couldn’t help notice that your two first links are rather old and only mention charges, nothing about verdicts. But since neither has anything to do with the matter at hand, that’s a rather irrelevant observation so I won’t bother you for the actual rulings.

          • FelixKrull

            More bullshit. As retired.military said: links or it didn’t happen. You really think the MSM would miss a juicy morsel like that? They have – and still are – going out of their way to paint the Serbs as bloodthirsty perverts. Put up or shut up.

      • jim_m

        The only reference I an find for this is an archived comment from Captain’s Quarters from 9/11/2007 where apparently you posted the nearly identical story under the commenter name docjim505.

        One of the historic purposes of rape in a war zone is to impregnate the women so they bear children of mixed ethinicity thus diluting the ethnic claim on the land by their descendants. Murdering the women would be counter productive in that aim.

        I found plenty of stories about rape, false imprisonment and selling women into slavery, but not one of your story. The only reference I can find is your own singular post. Were it real I would expect that it would have been repeated by someone, somewhere, but it is not.

        • herddog505

          Yes, that would be me. I actually called my brother last night (after doing a quick internet search for myself) to make sure that I remembered correctly what he said. He repeated the story and tells me that it was in a hotel in the town of Brcko (I should make clear that, obviously, he did not witness the atrocities at first-hand).

          At any rate, given the well-documented horrors from the post-Yugoslavia civil war, I don’t find the story especially hard to believe.

          • jim_m

            I do not doubt that women were raped in a house or hotel where he says. I doubt the remainder of the story. Things like that tend to grow with the telling and since he was apparently several steps removed from the incident it is not unreasonable to assume that it got embellished before he heard of it.

          • herddog505

            It may well have been embellished or garbled. I related the story as he told it to me, and I have no especial reason to doubt its general veracity.

        • herddog505

          From Wiki:

          One report to the Bassiouni Commission estimated that 200 women, primarily Bosniak, were detained at Vilina Vlas and sexually assaulted. The hotel was known as a place where only young, beautiful women were detained and in testimony given to the Bassiouni Commission it is claimed that women brought to this camp had been chosen to bear “Chetnik” children and were “selected” carefully. It was claimed that younger girls were taken to the hotel while older women were taken to other locations, such as occupied or abandoned houses, and raped.

          The number and consistency of the reports were considered to provide reasonable confirmation that a large number of rapes did in fact occur at the hotel.

          The prisoners were raped repeatedly and beaten with batons. Many of the women were killed while others were exiled, became insane or committed suicide. Only a handful of the women prisoners survived – fewer than ten according to the Association of Women Victims of War, an organisation which works with women survivors and campaigns for the prosecution of the perpetrators. Most of the women prisoners were either killed or took their own lives. The bodies of the victims have not been found and are alleged to have been buried in concealed locations and then reburied.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilina_Vlas

          As for the specific hotel, my brother does not recall the name. I suggest that it MAY have been the Hotel Galeb:

          The Hotel Galeb: (The existence of this detention facility has not been corroborated by multiple sources.) This facility was identified as a place used by Serbs to hold females for the purpose of rape.

          http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/comexpert/ANX/VIII-02.htm#III.A.13

          On 7 May 1992, Mr. Gasi witnessed executions of civilians in the town of Br cko. These executions were perpetrated by soldiers wearing camouflage uniforms of an olive-grey colour and a man in a blue police uniform. [281] On 12 May 1992, the witness saw men in camouflage SMB uniforms in front of the Galeb Hotel guarding dead bodies in civilian clothing.

          http://sim.law.uu.nl/sim/caselaw/tribunalen.nsf/a7a6d0b53b46ca55c12571b5003d409a/fe59a469ac72fd1bc12571fe004c8b0a?OpenDocument

          Is this the right hotel? Was it another hotel in Brcko? Was it another hotel somewhere else in Bosnia that, after passing through the filters of “what the locals said” and “what GI’s told each other”, was garbled?

          I don’t know. However, it seems undeniable that Bosnian (Bosniak) women were rounded up and raped in a variety of locations, including hotels, and that they were often murdered afterward.

          • jim_m

            Ok so you are admitting that the story about women being thrown out of windows to their deaths is BS because you provided nothing other than what I already said was true.

          • herddog505

            I beg your pardon? I “admit” no such thing.

            1. My brother, who was a peacekeeper in Bosnia, saw many places where atrocities were committed and spoke with people who were witnesses to them, told me the story that I related here. I have no reason to believe that he embellished it, made it up, or that AS HE TOLD ME it is in any way “BS”;

            2. A fairly brief internet search returned documents relating VERY similar incidents alleged to have happened in Bosnia, including in the city (Brcko) specified;

            3. The fact that I have not been able to provide documented, specific proof of one incident that happened in a war-torn country nearly twenty years ago is hardly cause to cry “BS!” (my search returned documents in other languages, by the way; who knows what is in them?);

            4. Are you seriously trying to assert that a story is BS because, though there seems to be pretty damned clear evidence that Bosnian women were held in captivity, raped, and then murdered by by Serbs by a variety of means, those means don’t APPARENTLY include being chucked in a river? Seriously?

            Let’s get back to the original point: I object to Muslims (or, to be more precise, the Mohammedan religion) being called “a disease on humanity”. I suggest that indicting such a large religion is silly as (IMO) MOST of its adherents are no more violent, vicious or beastly than anybody else. To back up my point, I presented evidence of gross misbehavior by nominal Christians in modern times and suggest that we would not for a moment indict Christianity because of the behavior of a few thoroughy bad apples.

            If you wish to believe that Islam is a disease on humanity (I admit that it is not my cup of tea), that’s your perogative. I have stated my reasons that I do not agree.

          • jim_m

            I did not accuse your brother of embellishing the story. I think that the story was embellished long before it reached him.

            The fact that these rapes and other atrocities occurred is not and has not been in dispute. The only thing I have disputed was this particular outlandish story.

          • herddog505

            jim_mThe fact that these rapes and other atrocities occurred is not and has not been in dispute. The only thing I have disputed was this particular outlandish story.

            Then what’s “outlandish” about the story? We have very good reason to believe that Bosnian women were held in various buildings including hotels, that they were abused and raped for days or even weeks, that they were often murdered afterward, and that their bodies were (for want of a better term) hidden. Is it such a stretch to believe that some might have been tossed in a handy river?

          • herddog505

            By the way, I doubt that Bosnians testifying about this sort of thing would refer to the location as “the Hotel F*ck-n-Chuck”, so I doubt it would show up in ANY internet search.

          • jim_m

            Well that was part of what I was going to mention. The name is predicated on the rhyme that you get in the English language. That is why it sounds like an urban myth.

            I have stated my reasons why it sounds like a fabrication based on the underlying truth that these rapes and other atrocities did in fact occur. I do not doubt that your brother heard the story. I just think that it is a story that embellished on the brutal truth to make a fanciful tale seem potentially believable.

      • relozory@012.net.il relozory@0

        Maybe Christianity is ALSO a disease on humanity! Didn’t the church burn people, families alive for not believing in Christianity??? Didn’t Mohammed massacre inhabitants in city after city in the Arabian Peninsula? These are the two sources of doctrine in these respective religions, with such horrible roots, how are they legitimate? WHY DO YOU ASSUME THEM TO BE GOOD???

    • Commander_Chico

      Islam is a disease on humanity.

      That’s pretty much true of all religions. Religions are myths controlled by men in the service of power and avarice. You could say they are deceptive tools of the Devil.

      What the religion does is only limited by the men in charge and the threat of secular law. I was in Sri Lanka a while back and I was surprised how much people complained about Buddhist monks, their sexual misconduct and greed, as I thought Buddhism was not as bad. I was wrong.

      Organized and sanctioned pederasty is almost a doctrine of the Catholic priesthood.

      I still oppose blanket anti-religious bigotry, though. That’s because ideas like Warner’s usually lead to acts like Breivik’s. Religion is often foolish and brutal, but individual adherents are not.

      • jim_m

        That’s pretty much true of all religions.

        Yep. Christianity with it’s creation of universities, hospitals etc has been a plague on mankind.

        Organize pedophilia is also standard practice for US public schools but that doesn’t seem to bother you.

        And after your blanket anti-christian bigotry your last statement is a laugh.

        • Commander_Chico

          Christians killed more people in the Americas, Asia and Africa than Muslims ever got close to.

          St. Peter’s was built upon the toiling of American and African slaves.

          • jim_m

            Most of those slaves were sold by rival tribes of the same race, something that most people like to ignore.

          • Commander_Chico

            Um, not the Indians in the Americas. they were directly enslaved by Europeans.

            Anyways, slavery is slavery. Does it really matter if someone sold the slave to you, if you’re buying?

            Dumb.

    • ryan a

      “Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion.”

      -GW Bush, 2002

      More here:

      http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/ramadan/islam.html

    • Guest

      We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity

      – Ann Coulter

  • jim_m

    Muslims treat women like cattle and the left says that’s OK because it’s a cultural difference we must respect.

    Muslims beat and murder women with the approval of their imams and the left says that’s OK because it’s a religious difference we must respect.

    Conservatives believe that abortion is wrong, that marriage and a family are important institutions to our society and the left tells us that we are waging a “war on women” and we must be stopped.

    The left has chosen sides with our enemies.

    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      The left has made common cause with the enemies of civilization.

    • Commander_Chico

      That’s pretty retarded – what “Muslims” do is mostly in other countries.

      A prudent American, of “the left” or not, recognizes that our ability to control things in other countries is limited.

      On the other hand, if you’re of “the right,” I guess you’re all in favor of these dumb invasions of Muslim countries to control their societies. It’s certainly true that a lot more innocent Muslim women have been killed as a result of that than by internal murders.

      Who are the barbarians?

      • jim_m

        I do not advocate going in to stop muslims from performing genital
        mutilation or to force them to educate their women or to force them to
        give them driver’s licenses. I do believe that we should do something
        to stop them from fomenting global terrorism and if that means military
        action then so be it.

        What galls me is the acceptance by the left of muslim barbarism toward
        women, homosexuals and non muslims. In the US the left is up in arms
        about the evils of the conservatives who oppose gay marriage yet they
        say nothing about the commonplace practice in islamic countries of
        stoning homosexuals. I guess you don’t care if the gays are murdered
        as long as they can marry first.

        • Commander_Chico

          Again, because gay marriage is an American issue, not an Iranian issue.

          What about “another country” do you not understand?

          • Jwb10001

            What about common decency do you not understand are you actually saying that the treatment of homosexuals and females by muslims in this world in the 21st centry is tolerable? Maybe if we could show you how our evil corp overlords are part of the problem you’d give a shit.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            Probably not.

  • 914

    According to sharia law she was hazed to bring her infidel self into the light.

  • Wild_Willie

    The religion of peace and respect! Bullshit. ww

    • http://www.outsidethebeltway.com rodney dill

      The religion of (easy) pieces

  • Brian_R_Allen

    The brutally-barbaric, enslaving manifestation of evil morphed into a psychopathologically-hesperophobic sexually-repressed raping sexually mutilating mass-murdering sister goat and little-boy-buggerer-breeding totalitarian ideology posing as a “religion” is Absolutely Unassimilable into Judeo-Christian/Western/Human Civilization.

    “Radical” islam is The Beast, “Moderate” islam its Trojan Horse and elitist “multiculturalist” P-C-promoting Western bureaucrats and politicians are its Greeks.

    We will note those facts and act accordingly — or our Civilization is doomed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hannah-Abbott/100001145910796 Hannah Abbott

    Let’s get this straight. 1) There is no evidence that obama was born in Hawaii, and in fact all evidence points to him being born in Kenya, 2) Obama was raised as a muslim and is quoted as saying the prayer call at dusk is “one of the best sounds in life”, 3) Obama smoked pot virtually every day during his 20′s, 4) Obama has refused to release his school transcripts no do we know where and if he attended much of any school. He says he attended Columbia for 2 years, yet public records show he was there only one year (of course the campaign says the records are wrong. .) 5) Obama says his family paid over $50k for his education. …there is nothing to support that his family had these funds available (of course if he released his school records we could find out of he ever applied for or was granted financial aide) 6) Obama is a liar and nothing he says should be believed. ..absolute scumbag. . .. just last week he claimed that he was OUTSPENT in both his US Senate run and 2008 presidential run. . .when the TRUTH is he outspent Alan Keyes in his Senate race 7 to 1 and out spent McCain 2 to 1. .. Obama is a liar and anyone who is thinking about voting for him should be ashamed-you are too stupid to exist. . .