Terror Trials: Delaying American Justice to Observe Ramadan

July 18, 2012 | Filed under 9/11,corruption,Culture Of Corruption,Deaths,War On Terror | Posted by

A military judge has just put off American justice in a terror trial so that the accused can observe Ramadan. So our culture, our system of justice is now to take a back seat to Islam. This is how our civilization ends and how we capitulate to radical Islamism without our firing a shot, folks.

As the AP reports, “A U.S. military judge agreed Monday to postpone the next court hearings at the Guantanamo Bay prison for five men charged in the Sept. 11 attacks to avoid a conflict with the Muslim holy period of Ramadan.”

Well, isn’t that nice of him? Those that perverted their own religion to launch an attack that killed thousands of Americans will be allowed to take a holiday from their prosecution!

What next, declaring them innocent because, after all, these murders were just observing their religion?

This military “judge,” Army Col. James Pohl, should be drummed out of the service, have his pension canceled, and be dishonorably discharged for subverting our culture and our system of justice to satisfy the religion of terrorism.

This Pohl character is a traitor.

(H/T Weasel Zippers and Mental Recession)

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Warner Todd Huston is a Chicago-based freelance writer, has been writing opinion editorials and social criticism since early 2001 and is featured on many websites such as Andrew Breitbart's BigGovernment.com and BigJournalism.com, RightWingNews.com, CanadaFreePress.com, RightPundits.com, StoptheACLU.com, Human Events Magazine, among many, many others. Additionally, he has been a frequent guest on talk-radio programs to discuss his opinion editorials and current events.He has also written for several history magazines and appears in the new book "Americans on Politics, Policy and Pop Culture" which can be purchased on amazon.com. He is also the owner and operator of PubliusForum.com. Feel free to contact him with any comments or questions, EMAIL Warner Todd Huston: igcolonel .at. hotmail.com"The only end of writing is to enable the reader better to enjoy life, or better to endure it." --Samuel Johnson

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  • Commander_Chico

    Portly non-lawyer non-veteran Warner Todd Huston calling an Army colonel, someone who’s likely got several tours in Iraq and/or Afghanistan behind him a traitor. That’s rich. Don’t you think there is a significant degree of personal risk in being the judge in this trial?

    Thank you for your service, Col. Pohl. You are a brave man. Rule well, get the trial right, and ignore the armchair judges, nutballs and chickenhawks.

    • herddog505

      Chickenhawks comment aside, I agree.

    • ryan a

      “Portly non-lawyer non-veteran Warner Todd Huston calling an Army
      colonel, someone who’s likely got several tours in Iraq and/or
      Afghanistan behind him a traitor. That’s rich.”

      Yup. I’d really like to see WTH say this to the colonel in person. Somehow, I don’t think he would.

  • Guest

    A judge delays a trial by a few days for the defendants’ religious observation. I can already feel America crumbling around me,

  • herddog505

    I’m not bothered by this decision. Ramadan is a major holiday (perhaps THE major holiday) for a mainline religion, so observing it is not a big deal. Further, let’s recall that these people are innocent until proved guilty (yeah: that was hard to type), and taking a recess to allow them to observe a major religious holiday is the square thing to do. It’s akin to taking a recess during Christmas or Passover.

    WTH – This military “judge,” Army Col. James Pohl, should be drummed out of the service, have his pension canceled, and be dishonorably discharged for subverting our culture and our system of justice to satisfy the religion of terrorism.

    I deeply hope that you are engaging in hyperbole here. If not… Jebus.

    • warnertoddhuston

      No hyperbole at all. Islam is a disease on the earth, it has proven itself to be thus, and anyone like this “judge” who would help further their evil aims is on the other side as far as I am concerned. This guy is an enemy to our way of life and should be treated that way.

      • Commander_Chico

        You are a fool maligning a colonel with a distinguished 32 years of service as a JAG. As ryan a says, you would not have the balls to call him a traitor to his face. He is a brave man in a risky job.

        The judge is not only trying to have a fair trial, but a trial that appears fair to the world. The defense counsel wanted to remove Col. Pohl as judge, they don’t like him either, so if they and the sorry likes of you don’t like him, he’s probably doing something right.
        http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/17/2899244/chief-guantanamo-judge-refuses.html

        Because of your utter ignorance of military matters, you should refrain from commenting on them further. I remember that you were defending an incompetent National Guard general who allowed her subordinates to steal millions. Now you are slandering a brave guy with a great record of service. I say you are the traitor.

      • SCSIwuzzy

        If I could down vote you more than once WTH, I would.
        While I think that Radical Islam is a bigger fraction of overall Islam than our friends in the media or on the left would agree upon, I cannot say that all of Islam is a disease.

      • ryan a

        Amazing. It’s almost like you’re going for the W-Bang all time record for the dumbest arguments. Good news: you’re in the lead!

        “No hyperbole at all. Islam is a disease on the earth…”

        Good grief, well at least you’re up front about your bigotry. So please explain how the entire religion of Islam is supposedly a “disease on the earth”. Because of the actions of specific individuals? So all one billion adherents to Islam around the world are culpable for the actions of a few? Really? Do you really believe this tripe? What do you think these quotes:

        “Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people
        in my country, and to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is
        also an occasion to remember that Islam gave birth to a rich
        civilization of learning that has benefited mankind.”

        -GW Bush in 2002

        “Some of the comments that have been uttered about
        Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments
        of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people,
        is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a
        country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in
        America.”

        -GW Bush, also in 2002

        WTH also wrote this:

        “This guy is an enemy to our way of life and should be treated that way.”

        Wow folks, we might have a winner with this one! That might be the most foolish statement ever made on W-Bang. So, a guy with decades of experience in the US military is actually “an enemy of our way of life”? What “way of life” are you speaking for? Militant bigotry?

      • http://www.wizbangblog.com David Robertson

        “This guy is an enemy to our way of life and should be treated that way.”

        Balderdash! In the USA, our way of life includes recognizing the freedom of religion of individuals, so long as no physical harm is done. The observance of Ramadan does not result in physical harm to people.

        By expressing the desire to take freedom of religion away from people, you are contradicting our way of life in the USA.

        Another feature of our way of life is the rule of law, which includes adherence to international law such as the 3rd Geneva Convention, which I quote in another of my responses to the above post. Co. Pohl is conforming to the 3rd Geneva Convention by providing religious accommodations to the Guantanamo Bay prisoners.

        By expressing the desire to contradict the rule of law, you are contradicting our way of life in the USA.

        Ramadan lasts for only 1 lunar month. Postponing a court hearing for that amount of time isn’t going to prevent the U.S. government from putting those prisoners on trial, and it isn’t going to enable people to engage in activities that harm the USA.

      • herddog505

        Oh. My. God.

        Not only do you condemn an entire religion, most of whose adherents are no more harmful or otherwise offensive than the average Jew, Christian, Buddhist, or atheist, you consider a US Army officer as a national enemy because he suspended a trial for a few days so the defendents could celebrate one of their most important holidays???

        Needless to say, I completely, totally, utterly disagree and wonder that any normal person could harbor such ideas.

        • jim_m

          I agree. The Colonel was simply upholding our honor and our sense of freedom and human dignity. It costs us nothing to do this, it would cheapen us to deny the request and it would set a precedent for suppressing religion that no one wants to make.

          • herddog505

            Agreed on all points.

      • jim_m

        This guy is an enemy to our way of life and should be treated that way.

        Yes he is, but that does not mean that we do things that will ultimately corrode our freedoms and destroy the way of life that he hates.

        • Guest

          The military judge?

          • jim_m

            The defendant. Sorry, was Warner referring to the judge? My mistake if he was.

            Rereading Warner;s comment it seems that he was referring to the defendant.

          • Guest

            I think he’s referring to the judge:

            [A]nyone like this “judge” who would help further their evil aims is on the other side as far as I am concerned. This guy is an enemy to our way of life and should be treated that way.

            And in his initial blog post, Warner wrote:

            This military “judge,” Army Col. James Pohl, should be drummed out of the service, have his pension canceled, and be dishonorably discharged for subverting our culture and our system of justice to satisfy the religion of terrorism.
            This Pohl character is a traitor.

            I think Warner’s pretty much against Pohl, too.

          • jim_m

            Yeah, he’s a bit out of line on this one.

      • Guest

        Warner … You should be ashamed of yourself. You’re harping on the trial of a few alleged terrorists, but you don’t realize that their faith has already affected the fabric of this country:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslin

      • Guest
    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      Do they meet the tests of Genva III for Prisoners of War?

      • herddog505

        I don’t think so, but that decision has already been made: they are in an American court, and American rules of procedure and common decency apply.

        • Commander_Chico

          Geneva IV applies.

        • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

          Actually, a military tribunal is not really an “American” court. The procedures, standards of evidence, and charges have very little to do with U. S. Code and the Federal Courts, the first non-military court this will see on appeal is the Supreme Court via the Court of Military Appeals.

  • ryan a

    “This military “judge,” Army Col. James Pohl, should be drummed out of the service…”

    Are you serious with this crap? As HD505 said, I hope this is either hyperbole or sarcasm.

  • SCSIwuzzy

    Under the notion of trials are to determine guilt or innocence, I don’t have an issue with letting the potentially innocent observe the most important holiday of their year.

  • http://www.wizbangblog.com David Robertson

    Let me get this straight. The author of the above post wants a certain group of people to be denied freedom of religion – in particular, the freedom to participate in a religious holiday that harms nobody. Ramadan is a time of fasting and praying, religious acts that are performed by people all over the world who do not engage in terrorism.

    Besides, Article 34 of the 3rd Geneva Convention states the following:

    “Prisoners of war shall enjoy complete latitude in the exercise of their religious duties, including attendance at the service of their faith, on condition that they comply with the disciplinary routine prescribed by the military authorities. Adequate premises shall be provided where religious services may be held.”

    The author of the above post is so consumed by hatred for the Guantanamo Bay prisoners, that he has jumped the shark by making the false accusation that a U.S. Army officer is guilty of treason.

  • Brucehenry

    Go easy on Warner. He never expected this kind of blowback from calling a decorated 32 year veteran Army colonel a traitor.

    You see, he has so little respect for the conservative readers here that he assumes you are all mouth-breathing Neanderthals who will scarf down whatever red meat he tosses out. He thought spouting a lot of Islamophobic nonsense and accusations of disloyalty would GAIN him adherents, not LOSE them. LOL.

    I’ve got a new respect for the conservative members of the Wizbang community who have commented so far. Well said, all of you. I already had plenty of respect for Chico and Ryan A.

    • Commander_Chico

      Warner flits from one “Movement Conservative” event to another, doing his “reporting.” Apparently, he is of independent means and has no regular job.

      I guess he talks to fellow nutballs all of the time and has lost touch with reality.

      You should check out the comments on the blog Warner links to, the well-named Weasel Zippers: Scouring the Bowels of the Internet. Truly demented.

      • Brucehenry

        Well, even though he wasn’t embarrassed by claiming that Dan Savage is “Obama’s bullying czar” or that SWATting is a “tool of the left” or that Ray Bradbury hated Obama, or whatever, he SHOULD feel well and truly disgraced for claiming that a 32-year veteran Army officer doing his duty is a traitor.

        I bet he doesn’t, though.

  • jim_m

    I have to agree with everyone else here. This postponement is no a big deal. It’s been 11 years already, another month isn’t going to bring the end of the world and while I hold their particular brand of religion in very low esteem I see no reason to set a precedent of disrespecting religion (Plus by disrespecting it you would only give them an argument for appeal saying that their 1st amendment rights were denied).

  • Commander_Chico

    Look at it this way. Col. Pohl has a tough job, basically unprecedented since WWII. The world is watching him. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I presume he is acting in the interests of truth, justice and the American Way.

    He and his family will have to worry about being targets for the rest of their lives.
    Then out in the internet, from the precincts of ignorance, there is this blivit calling him a traitor and saying he should be dishonorably discharged.
    Don’t Col. Pohl and his family have enough to worry about besides right-wing nutballs attacking him?

    Disgraceful. Brings to mind Joe Welch talking to Sen. McCarthy, when McCarthy was saying the Army was full of traitors: Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?