Showtime Promoting Polyamory In New Reality Series

If there’s no such thing as right and wrong, why not…

Here is how Showtime describes the series:

The new SHOWTIME docu-series, POLYAMORY: MARRIED AND DATING, exploring alternative relationship structures, premieres on Thursday, July 12th at 11 PM ET/PT. Polyamory or “poly” as it is often referred to, is practiced by couples who believe that they can also have deep, committed, long-term and loving relationships with people other than their spouses. Unlike polygamy, polyamory is not based on any religious tenets nor does it involve multiple spouses. Produced by BermanBraun, this series of seven episodes presents the various ways in which poly practitioners approach non-monogamy.

This provocative reality series takes an inside look at polyamory: non-monogamous, committed relationships that involve more than two people. Lindsey and Anthony are married, but live in a triad (three-way relationship) with their girlfriend, Vanessa. Husband and wife Michael and Kamala have many lovers, including couple Jen and Tahl. This explicit look at the ins and outs of modern-day polyamory follows characters grappling with the emotional, psychological and sexual drama of sharing their hearts, as well as their beds.

Don’t confuse polyamory with polygamy reality series like Sister Wifes and series like Big Love, these folks are freed from religion to just be as hedonistic as they please. It’s swinging for homebodies…

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  • jim_m

    I wonder how much of the leftist antipathy toward polygamy stems from the fact that Mormons tend to vote republican.

    Does anyone honestly believe that if the LDS church were a dem constituency that the left would not be militating for legalization of polygamy? JWH would have spent the evening last night arguing for legalization and not against it..

    • Commander_Chico

      Is everything about “leftists” or “the left” in your mind?

      I did not know about either the “leftist” opposition to polygamy, or I suppose the “rightist” support for it.

      And, are those positions reversed for polyandry?

      As for the show, I understand the polyamory part, what puts me off is why would someone want to be on a reality series exhibiting themselves?

      • jim_m

        No. People on the right oppose polygamy as well as polyamory and polyandry for moral reasons. I merely differentiate the reasons for opposition in a relevant way.

        The left is very fond of reminding us that moral truth is all relative and that one moral code is no more valid than any other. Even the arguments against polygamy on the other thread were not from a moral standpoint, they were all about contract law (LOL).

        Yet, I think I pose a valid question: If the LDS church were a left wing constituency, would the dems advocate for legalization of polygamy? (not that the mainstream LDS organizations are pushing for it, but fringe elements would.) On what basis would the dems refuse such a demand? Certainly not on moral grounds. If some legal technicality is all that they have then that is easily corrected. I don’t see the left as having any legitimate reason to oppose it (other than prejudice).

        • SCSIwuzzy

          If they were left wing, they wouldn’t be Mormons.

        • Commander_Chico

          Utah was admitted to the Union in 1896. One of the Congress’s conditions was that polygamy be outlawed forever.

          So, the Utah Constitution has a rule that no other state constitution I know has, in that it can only be amended by the consent of the “United States” – polygamy is forbidden.

          I don’t think this had anything to do with “leftists,” more like cultural and religious conservatives who opposed the practice and distrusted Mormonism as an heretical belief.

          http://le.utah.gov/code/CONST/htm/00I03_000100.htm

          http://www.media.utah.edu/UHE/s/STATEHOOD.html

          • jim_m

            I’m not talking then. I’m talking now.

          • Commander_Chico

            Well, since there are no serious proposals to legalize polygamy anywhere in the USA yet, it’s tough to say whether “leftists” or religious conservatives would oppose it more.

            It would have to be more legally complicated than binary marriage, just because of the property division issues.

            Even though I think it should be allowed in the name of liberty and freedom of contract, I see where it could be a problem as good looking wealthy guys like me got more than one woman, causing social problems. As I’ve said, guys not getting laid account for a lot of the violence in the world.

          • jim_m

            My point was that if there were a constituency of the left militating for it, then all the lefty trolls here would be taking up the cause and not finding reasons (and half-assed reasons at that) to keep it illegal.

          • Commander_Chico

            Well, I want it, because I want all the bitchez to myself.

      • SCSIwuzzy

        Why does anyone want to be on the majority of reality shows? Esp since after years (and different national versions) of shows like Big Brother, we know it bring out the worst in people.

        • http://www.rustedsky.net JLawson

          Perhaps some folks want to bring out that side of themselves, to show off their worst instead of having to be on what they’ve been taught is ‘good behavior’.

        • Commander_Chico

          Well, if I were a cop, I would not mind being on Cops. That would be cool. Hmm, aside from that show, what else?

          • SCSIwuzzy

            Some of the cooking shows, like Master Chef and Chopped are good…
            But any show that follows peoples lives tends to turn me off. Some are ok, more like a documentary than a freak show… most are creepy voyeuristic crap that encourage the stars to behave badly.

          • Commander_Chico

            I’d go on “Mantracker,” if you’ve ever seen that, but the problem is that Mantracker wins 90% of the time.

            And of course, if I had some curio, I’d love to go on Pawn Stars.

          • SCSIwuzzy

            Sounds like something Andrew Sullivan would watch… :)

    • Guest

      Not everything is about political identification.

      • jim_m

        Well, we already have the evidence from the other side since Mormons tend to affiliate with the GOP. My question is valid. You just dislike the implications.

    • Guest

      Not everything is about political identification.

  • herddog505

    Should this sort of thing be illegal? If not, why not?

    • Guest

      We already ran rampant through the marriage end of things, so I’m not going to rehash it here.

      As far as the polyamory … I don’t think it should be illegal. When it comes to personal behavior that inflicts no harm on others, I’m generally of a libertarian bent.

      • jim_m

        Here we will agree. You cannot legislate morality. People have a right of association and can do whatever they want with each other.

      • herddog505

        Agreed.

    • Guest

      We already ran rampant through the marriage end of things, so I’m not going to rehash it here.

      As far as the polyamory … I don’t think it should be illegal. When it comes to personal behavior that inflicts no harm on others, I’m generally of a libertarian bent.

    • jim_m

      Should this sort of thing be illegal?

      Cable TV? Yeah probably.

      • Commander_Chico

        When you have all those channels, you have to fill them with something.

      • http://www.rustedsky.net JLawson

        Nah. Reality shows, however, are the second-hand smoke of the entertainment world…

    • http://www.rustedsky.net JLawson

      I don’t think so. As I’ve mentioned numerous times before, I think what folks do sexually is their own concern.

      That said – having sampled a bit the poly-amorous stuff in the ’80s, it’s certainly not for everyone, and takes both a strong relationship and a good sense of self to survive and enjoy.

      A lot of cultural quirks like this are more attractive looking from outside than being in it and experiencing it. Poly-A was one, for me. I guess I’m just not wired that way.

      • Guest

        This reminds me of a routine I heard from a stand-up comedian. He said that from the outside, the custom of having several wives looks good to men … but then he visited a friend overseas with multiple wives, and he realized that it was a succession of women who all hated their husband.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VEZFLPBDIFSWTX2IOLCAODMOSI RegZippo

    I like Showtime’s original series. I think they are MUCH better than HBO’s originals. However I will not be watching this drivel.

  • GarandFan

    “…exploring alternative relationship structures….”

    Oh! It’s like sooooooooo new wave! Soooooo “intellectually” driven!

    Sooooooooooooooooo 1970′s!

    And they wonder why TV is called a ‘vast wasteland’.

    • http://www.rustedsky.net JLawson

      Well, they’ve been rehashing ’60s and ’70s sitcoms – is it any wonder they’re looking at reprising ’70s and ’80s porn scenarios?

  • sabbahillel

    An interesting point is that those who advocate polygamy point to the Bible’s acceptance of it. However, the Bible actually allows for it as a concession to the weakness of human beings or a practical matter to handle certain problems. However, the ideal is for one man and one woman committed for life (though divorce is allowed if the couple get it wrong).

    Unlimited polygamy is actually considered wrong and is explicitly forbidden to kings (who are the most likely to indulge in it).. . The commentators actually state that, as a practical matter, a person should be married to either one or three women (with a maximum of four) but never to two women. Apparently the family dynamics for a man and two women can destroy the family. The story is told of a man who was married to two women and got his first gray hair. The first wife pulled out the gray hair to “make him look younger”. The second wife insisted on being “equal” and pulled out a hair too. The first wife got upset at the second wife pulling out a black hair and insisted on being “equal” and pulled out a black hair. The second wife decided that “equality” required her to pull out two hairs. The first then felt that “equality” required her to two black hairs. Between the two of them they pulled out all of his hair.

    • Commander_Chico

      Yes, I could definitely see the two-wives thing not working and three wives being a better balance of hatred and jealousy.

      There’s a Turkish soap opera, Muhteşem Yüzyıl (Magnificent Century). It’s about Sultan Suleiman in the 16th century Ottoman Empire. Since it’s a soap opera, most of the plot is about the sultan’s wives and concubines scheming against each other. It’s pretty entertaining.

      • http://www.rustedsky.net JLawson

        A balance of hatred and jealousy… that’s a good summation of it, I think.

        “Whom the gods hate, they encourage to have multiple wives… on a tight budget.”

        I’m happy without a lot of drama in my life. Call me old-fashioned, but multiple wives just seems like more of a pain in the ass than a pleasure.

        • Commander_Chico

          It would only work if you had absolute power over them, either mental or physical.

          • http://www.rustedsky.net JLawson

            Well, I’m not culturally wired that way. And, oddly enough, I don’t think it much of a problem…

  • sabbahillel

    I think that this speaks for itself.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/five-jealous-wives-rape-nigerian-man-to-death/979270/

    Five ‘jealous’ wives rape Nigerian man to death

    Agencies Posted online: Wed Jul 25 2012, 15:40 hrs

    Abuja : In an extraordinary
    case of jealousy, a Nigerian man – husband of six – was allegedly raped
    to death by his five spouses as he was paying too much attention to his
    sixth wife in east-central Benue state.
    Uroko Onoja, a wealthy businessman, was having sex with his youngest
    wife when the other five women attacked him with knives and sticks,
    demanding that he have sex with all of them at once.
    Onoja, who resisted their attack, was overpowered by the women
    who ordered that the sex march begin with the youngest wife and to
    continue in that order to the top, Nigeria’s Daily reported.
    Onoja stopped breathing when the fifth woman was making her way to the bed.
    According Onoja’s youngest wife, five other spouses ran into the forest realising that their husband is no more.
    Village head Okpe Odoh said that the matter had been reported to
    the police, who have already arrested two of the wives following the
    incident last week.

    • Commander_Chico

      Yeah, six is too many.

  • Kelly

    I think the show is not helping it to me it is hurting the whole concept and if you ask me I think there is a lot of double standard going on and it is contradictory to what they say that it is the best I am sorry I am monog and my Husband and I are very happy like this and do not have so much drama that seems so exhausting and to Jen get out of there you clearly are unhappy and you have three against you I do not think you like this at all there are good men who will only love you!!!

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