Actress Kyra Segdwick On Hollywood’s Mistake: Ignoring Midwest

Actress Kyra Sedgwick might be tempting fate in Hollywood with a recent interview on the Tavis Smiley show on PBS where she scolded her industry for ignoring the great middle of the country.

Sedgwick was on the show discussing her recently concluded series The Closer on TNT and noted that the show was a great hit in the Midwest, but not in L.A. or New York City. At first she said she felt insulted at this ratings truth, but it wasn’t long before she realized that this wasn’t a bad thing at all.

She told Smiley that she came to feel that Hollywood was making a mistake to ignore everything outside New York and Los Angeles.

“I think that there’s a … huge difference,” Sedgwick said, “between what people politically believe and what interests people in Los Angeles and what interests people in New York, and what they believe politically [in the rest of the country] … and I think to ignore that is really cutting yourself out of a huge part of your population that I feel… they’re under-represented, and I think that was the great thing about [The Closer series].”

Hollywood is well-known for the extremist, left-wing sentiment observed by so many of its denizens and during the interview Sedgwick seemed to feel a bit uncomfortable making note of this mistake her industry is making. She even acknowledged that she might get “in trouble” with her entertainment industry contemporaries for this sudden realization.

Other conservatives in Hollywood have for years talked of the militant leftism in La La land and have asserted that their careers were put at jeopardy once they became open about their political leanings. Let’s hope Sedgwick doesn’t suddenly find herself persona non grata for her realization that there is, indeed, life outside L.A. and New York City.

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Posted by on September 8, 2012.
Filed under ArtsyFartsy, corruption, Culture Of Corruption, Democrats, Entertainment, Media, Movies.
Warner Todd Huston is a Chicago-based freelance writer, has been writing opinion editorials and social criticism since early 2001 and is featured on many websites such as Andrew Breitbart's BigGovernment.com and BigJournalism.com, RightWingNews.com, CanadaFreePress.com, RightPundits.com, StoptheACLU.com, Human Events Magazine, among many, many others. Additionally, he has been a frequent guest on talk-radio programs to discuss his opinion editorials and current events. He has also written for several history magazines and appears in the new book "Americans on Politics, Policy and Pop Culture" which can be purchased on amazon.com. He is also the owner and operator of PubliusForum.com. Feel free to contact him with any comments or questions, EMAIL Warner Todd Huston: igcolonel .at. hotmail.com "The only end of writing is to enable the reader better to enjoy life, or better to endure it." --Samuel Johnson

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  • Brucehenry

    Kyra Sedgwick has always been, and remains, extremely hot. I wouldn’t care if she was a member of the John Birch Society, I’d still watch her stuff.

    • jim_m

      She’s been married to Kevin Bacon since 1988.

      This statement does not make her conservative, only savvy with regard to marketing.

      • Brucehenry

        Yeah, I know. I like his stuff too.

        I don’t see why this is news. Lots of shows and movies are made to appeal to the red states. And I don’t think Transformers or Twilight appeal any less or more to East Coast or West Coast folks than they do to heartlanders.

        • Carl

          It;s just part of the conservative narrative. They lie and when called on their lies they like to claim the media is biased.

          Cause lies are only lies if they get caught, so when they get caught they are eager to claim there is bias.

          It works with idiots. The chronically stupid fall for this ruse over and over again. The morons want to believe Obama is bad, after all – they can tell just by looking at him that he’s a bad person. When someone suggests that the media calling Romney and Ryan on their lies is doing so because they are liberal and biased its a lie that feels good, so they buy into it.

          • jim_m

            As soon as someone ponies up a survey showing that ratings are the same in the center of the country as the coasts you will have proven the point. That hasn’t been shown yet.

            It’s typical of lefties to demand agreement based on a profusion of numbers that neither prove nor deny their point. That is what Chico posted. He posted national ratings that don’t prove anything. I actually think that Hollywood does care about ratings in the heartland, I am just telling you that you haven’t proven it yet and your crowing is just empty triumphalism.

          • Carl

            Yeah, facts don’t prove anything.

            Facts have a liberal bias too.

          • jim_m

            Show me the facts douchebag.

            All I see is Chico posting nation wide ratings. There is no evidence one way or the other that Hollywood does or does not have a bias against the center of the country. You are so ignorant about numbers and statistics that you will believe anything.

            So we have numbers that are completely beside the point and the subjective commentary by Sedgwick and now the book that Vagabond links to. While subjective comment is not hard data it is better than the nothing you are showing me.

            Keep in mind that I am perfectly willing to believe that there is no bias with regard to programming. You just aren’t proving it.

          • Carl

            doucebag?

            So you’re claiming that the ratings are a lie?

            “You are so ignorant about numbers and statistics that you will believe anything. ”

            I believe the numbers are accurate, and reflect the popularity of the shows on television.

            What proof has Sedgewick shown? Other than the fct that her sorry ass got fired and nobody cared?

            Oh I see. Nobody cared so therefore its the liberalz fault cz teevee vu-ers hafe been branewashed by the liburul medea.

            Morons, you gotta love em – cuz it’s against the law to lock em up for being stupid.

          • jim_m

            First: No one asked Sedgwick for details. As Vagabond explains, it is highly likely that she has seen more detail on the ratings than is generally available to the public.

            Second: I believe the numbers are accurate too. I have already said that. But only a complete dumbass believes that national ratings say anything about regional ratings.

            Lastly: Yes we love morons like you. You make me feel good about myself, if only by comparison.

          • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

            What difference does it make? National broadcast and cable networks are national. Only under some socialist control of the media would it be necessary to make sure that there was a regionally-targeted and distributed programming strategy. Like the USSR having programming for Kazakhs or Armenians.

            Again, this is a free market. Hollywood is trying to make money. There are enough channels — multiple bible channels, multiple movie channels, multiple sports channels, shopping channels, Syfy, Spike, Oxygen, Lifetime, Discovery, TV Land, the gay Logo Channel, etc., to satisfy every need. If a program can draw a few hundred thousand viewers, it will find a national channel.

            If you think WWE, America’s Got Talent, or Pawn Stars particularly serve the coasts instead of the midwest, you’re living in some other USA.

          • jim_m

            OK. So you have your statement that you believe that these shows are indicative of an appeal to the heartland. I would suggest that this shows more about your own prejudice than anything else.

            I am not claiming that Hollywood has a bias against running shows that are popular in the midwest. I am saying that no one has shown any proof of that one way or another. National ratings are just that, national. I asked for regional ratings because otherwise all I have is Warner saying one thing, you saying the opposite, and no objective data to make a conclusion with.

            Well, actually I do have Carl claiming that your national numbers are proof that Hollywood pays attention geographically, but I suspect that you could post a picture of moldy bread and he would make the same claim.

        • jim_m

          I am not denying that they don’t appeal. I’m just asking for data. You claim that data for the whole nation proves that the media pays attention to the heartland. There isn’t anything proving your point. All you have is supposition. Your claim is reasonable, just unsupported. I am perfectly willing to agree with you (in fact I mostly do already) but you haven’t given any evidence of the fact.

      • EricSteel

        Have you never heard of the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon?

        • jim_m

          Yes, but I was not aware of it as a measure of conservatism.

    • EricSteel

      I have always wondered, since she is married to Kevin Bacon, what is her Bacon Number?

  • Wild_Willie

    She makes sense. Only the lefties will not heed it. ww

  • Bird666

    Isn’t Bacon one of us?

    • UOG

      No, bacon is part of every breakfast sandwich the Upset Old Gal and i make. Crumbled it’s also very nice in a salad.

      • jim_m

        No, no. Bacon is the 16th century philosopher that people thought had actually written Shakespeare’s plays.

  • GarandFan

    The East and West coast don’t care. They live in their own reality.

  • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

    Once again Warner is bitching about other people’s free expression and right to do business as they see fit. I suspect he fantasizes about being Minister of Information and Culture in a fascist government, so he could dictate to the press, TV and moviemakers. In other words, this is more Warner bullshit.

    Hollywood is a business. If Segdwick makes money for Hollywood, there will be no problem for her. There are several networks running series. Chances are everyone can find something on TV to watch.

    This is the Variety box office for last week. I don’t see a bias for anyone, except juveniles:

    1 Possession, The $23,849,110
    2 Lawless $15,375,972
    3 Expendables 2, $13,308,234
    4 Bourne Legacy, $10,661,055
    5 ParaNorman $9,778,275
    6 2016 Obama’s America $9,639,265
    7 Odd Life Of Timothy Green, $9,479,692
    8 Dark Knight Rises, The $9,250,343
    9 Campaign, The $8,368,768
    10 Hope Springs $7,362,932
    11 Premium Rush $6,076,493
    12 Hit And Run $3,957,214
    13 Marvel’s The Avengers $2,778,553
    14 Sparkle $2,667,232
    15 Brave $2,303,215

    http://www.variety.com/charts/film/domestic-film-box-office/weekly/?layout=b_o_layout&dept=Film

    Here are the Neilsen ratings of the top ten TV series, on network and cable. Glad to see that east/west coast elite show “Pawn Stars” there, that is a communist favorite of mine. But again, where is the bias towards the coasts? WWE? Big Brother? America’s Got Talent?

    1 NBC NFL PRE-SEASON GM8/26(S) NBC 6.2 9,819
    2 AMERICA’S GOT TALENT-TUE NBC 6.0 9,903
    3 60 MINUTES CBS 5.7 8,583
    4 NCIS CBS 5.4 8,094
    5 AMERICA’S GOT TALENT-WED NBC 5.2 8,602
    6 BIG BANG THEORY, THE CBS 4.8 7,444
    6 NCIS: LOS ANGELES CBS 4.8 7,145
    7 BIG BROTHER 14-SUN CBS 4.5 7,367
    8 MENTALIST, THE – TUE CBS 4.2 6,292
    9 20/20-FRI ABC 3.9 5,934
    10 BIG BROTHER 14-THU CBS 3.9 6,278
    Source: Nielsen. Primetime Broadcast Programs. Viewing estimates on this page include Live viewing and DVR playback on the Same Day, defined as 3am-3am. Ratings are the percentage of TV homes in the U.S. tuned into television.

    Cable Network TV – United StatesWeek of Aug 20, 2012
    Rank Program Network Rating Viewers (000)
    1 MAJOR CRIMES (102 BEFORE AND AFTER) TNT 3.5 5,399
    2 NFL PRE-SEASON FOOTBALL L (PHILADELPHIA/NEW ENGLAND) ESPN 3.3 5,066
    3 BURN NOTICE USA 3.1 4,958
    4 PAWN STARS HIST 3.0 4,818
    5 TRUE BLOOD (60) HBOM 2.9 5,049
    6 SUITS USA 2.9 4,482
    7 WWE ENTERTAINMENT (WWE RAW) USA 2.8 4,657
    8 PAWN STARS HIST 2.8 4,491
    9 WWE ENTERTAINMENT (WWE RAW) USA 2.7 4,426
    10 WWE ENTERTAINMENT (WWE RAW) USA 2.6 4,352
    Source: Nielsen. Total Day Cable Programs. Viewing estimates on this page include Live viewing and DVR playback on the Same Day, defined as 3am-3am. Ratings are the percentage of TV homes in the U.S. tuned into television.

    http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/top10s/television.html

    • Brucehenry

      You got a “down” vote there, Chico, because some here don’t like being reminded that their world view is a groupthink circlejerk.

      • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

        I got two down votes! Warner +1. Badge of pride. Winning!

        The Warner circlejerk is: “don’t confuse me with the facts, I’ve got my feeeelings,” and “why is everybody always pickin’ on me?”

        Is that female (emotion) vs. male (facts and logic)? After all, we started this with Kyra Segdwick.

        I won’t say that, it would be “sexist.” Or is it just “Charlie Brown (Warner Todd), he’s a clown?”

      • jim_m

        Not everyone is in the groupthink circle. Jerk.

      • warnertoddhuston

        Awww, poor widdle Broocehenwy, all upset that he got a down vote. Let’s hope it doesn’t hurt your delicately balanced mental state. We wouldn’t want you committing suicide over down votes. No. Really. We WOULDN’T want that. Really. No, I mean it.

        • jim_m

          I’m on your side, but that wasn’t funny.

          • herddog505

            I agree.

        • Brucehenry

          I didn’t say anything about ME getting downvoted, genius. I was pointing out that CHICO got downvotes when he posted data refuting your headline.

          You’re a hoot, Warner.

          • Guest

            Chico invites your down votes. Bring it on, sucker!!!

        • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

          @warnertoddhuston:disqus

          Chico invites your down votes. Bring it on, sucker!!!

    • jim_m

      I think it is interesting that “Major Crimes” leads the ratings for cable shows. That happens to be Sedgewick’s show without her character. It would be interesting to see the ratings before she was kicked off. That would tell the difference between whether she was a drag on ratings or if she was just pissing people off on the show.

      • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

        Yah, it makes it seem like she was just whining about being cut from the shows.

        • Brucehenry

          In any event, your posting of the box office and ratings numbers above clearly disprove Warner’s — and Sedgwick’s — thesis here — that Hollywood is ignoring the Red States. You get multiple down votes for posting it because some of the commentariat here enjoy their echo chamber and don’t wish to be reminded that reality, ummm…… differs.

          • Carl

            Ain’t no room for those truth-spouting liberals. Especially when they prove the conservatives are lying again….

          • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

            First, I do not consider myself a liberal as that term is used in the USA. I do not believe in racial or gender quotas, unlimited free money to the able-bodied- and- minded, feminism, nanny-state controls for health reasons, restrictions on “hate speech,” or imposing liberal values by military force.

            I am probably closest to a British Conservative or German Christian Democrat.

            Second, I think Warner actually believes in the stuff he posts, like a child believes in the boogieman or a paranoid schizophrenic believes in the people stalking him. So he is not lying.

          • Carl

            I disagree. The man can put words into sentences. He understands and it appears form my limited time around here that he’s adept at fleshing out lies in the news and giving them prominence. I don’t believe he’s so stupid that he actually believes the bullshit.

            But I could be wrong…

          • jim_m

            How does it disprove anything? It does not break down ratings between geographic areas. It does not show whether or not shows that rate well in the heartland are disfavored over shows that rate well on the coasts.

            While I did not down vote it, I would suspect that it gets down votes because it does not make a point. And yes, there are those who will down vote Chico just because he s Chico (just like there is someone who down votes me simply because it is me)

          • Brucehenry

            Duh, it disproves that Hollywood ignores the heartland, as Warner and Sedgwick assert. Or, at least, as Warner does.

            Hollywood is making lots of shows and movies that appeal to the heartland. As evidence by Chico’s post.

          • jim_m

            wow, you really have been hitting the kool aid a lot lately. Exactly where does Nielsen have ratings comparing the viewership on the coasts vs the center of the country as I asked?

            All I see is bullshit supposition not backed by facts. Typical of an ignorant leftist to make assertions and then link to something that doesn’t back them up and claim that they provided objective proof.

          • Brucehenry

            Warner’s point, as indicated by his headline, is that Hollywood is making a mistake by ignoring the Heartland. But Hollywood is NOT ignoring the Heartland.

            “Hollywood” as a group of people may, indeed, think of the great middle of the country as rubes living in flyover states. But that was not what the headline claims, is it?

            And, whether or not the shows Chico lists as getting great ratings actually GET better ratings in one part of the country as opposed to another is irrelevant — Hollywood is NOT ignoring the Heartland.

            They make shows, will continue to make shows, and always have made shows that appeal to the Heartland. Do you think New York’s elite liberals are glued to their screens watching Honey Boo-Boo? Where do you think most of the audience for “Touched By An Angel” lived? “Seventh Heaven” ran on ABC for how many years?

          • jim_m

            My point was not to dispute whether or not Hollywood ignores the heartland. I actually agree that Hollywood does create and air shows that appeal there. I have simply stated that the ratings are meaningless as proof of anything as they do not show where a show is popular.

            Technically, all the shows you mention could be popular on the coasts as well, we just don’t have the data to differentiate. I find it amusing that you attracted your own idiot sycophant who actually believes that the data showed something that it did not.

          • herddog505

            I think that’s a good point. Consider NASCAR: I believe that many of the races are televised nationally despite the apparent fact that NASCAR is most popular in the South. Ditto certain other sports: hockey is more popular up north than it is down here or in the west.

            I suggest that it is therefore possible to broadcast a TV show and have it garner good national ratings simply because many people in the heavily-populated – and politically liberal – northeast and west coast watch it while virtually nobody in the more conservative South and midwest do. A historical example of this sort of regionalism is the 1968 Star Trek episode “Plato’s Children” that featured Kirk and Uhura kissing: NBC was VERY concerned about how this (dare I say “liberal”?) scene would be received in the South.

            It would be of some interest, therefore, to know how shows like Glee and Modern Family, which prominently feature gay characters, do in various markets. My guess is that they do better on the coasts than in the South or the midwest.

          • jim_m

            Not only that but some programs, where elitist lefties will claim that they are popular with ignorant right wingers, are actually VERY popular in blue states. I will cite WWE, which is very popular in New England. Stupid cuts across all political lines.

          • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

            Everybody loves WWE. all around the world. I once watched a bunch of Arabs practically rioting to see The Big Show and Torrie Wilson. Especially Torrie Wilson. They knew more about them than I did.

            Which is another point – entertainment can be a global brand. I’ve flipped through more versions of the CSI shows dubbed in German, Italian, Spanish, Turkish, Arabic, etc., than I care to remember. So it’s not all about the USA, either.

            Again. it’s all about making money.

          • herddog505

            I had to have stitches from my jaw hitting the floor when I saw a rerun of “Hogan’s Heroes”… in Germany… dubbed into German.

            I can see why AMERICANS would enjoy that program, but Germans???

          • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

            Probably because Klink and Schultz are not one-dimensional evil Nazis.

          • herddog505

            I dunno. Seems to me that there’s damned little humor to be mined from seeing smart Americans outwit hapless Germans OR that the Germans lost. Further, Klink and Schutlz aren’t the only characters in the show. Indeed, though he isn’t exactly a character, Schickelgruber is frequently featured as Hogan has a hidden mike in his photo hanging in Klink’s office. Again, not what I’d think Germans would like to watch.

          • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

            The Germans have pretty much internalized the U.S. view of the war – at least they accept they were on the wrong side. Klink and Schultz are also shown loathing and resisting the Gestapo guy. This fed into the wish of the Germans to believe “we weren’t all bad.”

            The show also probably appealed to younger Germans who wanted to see their parents made fun of by proxy. Klink, Burkhalter and Schultz stood in for Daddy.

          • warnertoddhuston

            Oh, poor widdle Bwoocehenwy all upset that he and Commander_Cheapo’s been down voted. Gosh, we feel so bad for ya, bunkie.

          • Brucehenry

            You’re a hoot.

    • SCSIwuzzy

      Just a little bit of a leap there, Chico.

    • Vagabond661

      So are you saying there is no liberal bias in Hollywood?
      http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-accused-rampant-liberal-bias-193304

      • Carl

        You cite another loser spewing nonsense of proof of what? Proof of a liberal bias?

        No, it’s just proof there’s more than one idiot lying about it.

        Conservative politicians lie then conservative losers like Ben Shapiro, a book-selling conservative radio talk shot host, try to discredit the mainstream media so when the GOP politicians are called on their lies idiot bloggers can claim it’s just liberal bias.

        • jim_m

          Actually, he cites a book of interviews with Hollywood figures who admit their own bias voluntarily. On the other hand you seem to think that a series of numbers showing national ratings are somehow empirical proof that Hollywood does not ignore the middle of the country.

          In order for that to be the case we would need a geographic breakdown of the ratings. I am not saying that the bias alleged by Sedgwick is true. I am saying that neither side has proven their case.

          Your claim is based on an ignorant belief that numbers prove whatever you say they do without actually examining what they detail. Warner’s is based on the subjective claims of a Hollywood actress. Frankly, you appear more ignorant than Warner in this case.

          • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

            There is a bias, but it is demographic: those with higher consumer purchasing power.

            I’m not a marketing expert, so I don’t know how that corresponds with liberal beliefs, but isn’t there a group of people out there living in posh suburbs and buying Stuff White People Like who are “liberals?”

          • Vagabond661

            I would imagine Kyra would have access to all kinds of marketing data and knew where the demographics are.

          • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

            I don’t think she’s that deep.

            They cut her from a show, she’s complaining. The sequel is now the #1 rated cable drama.

            Kind of easy to figure out.

          • Vagabond661

            I was in the radio business and everytime the books came out all the on air personalities knew by nightfall where they were in the demos. Hard to believe that Kyra didn’t pay attention to it during the own run of her series.

            The funny thing is she said in the interview that the midwest was their ratings winner. So she kinda shot down your theory that she’s not that deep. Maybe you are shallow in your thinking.

          • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

            Yeah but the point is that the sequel to the show she was in – now without her – is the #1 show. Same plots, same theme – isn’t that doing well in the midwest – without her?

          • Vagabond661

            This is the first time I saw that you mentioned the sequel at all so i fail to see that was your point.

            She didn’t mention the sequel either. So I fail to see your “sour grapes” point.

          • jim_m

            Not only shallow but revealing his leftist sexist attitude. More of the left’s war on women.

        • Vagabond661

          Gee grumpy that was just one link when i googled “liberal bias in hollywood”. There were many more links. You probably don’t think there is a liberal bias in the news media either.

          • Carl

            Next time use a link that supports your point rather than using one the doesn’t while claiming that there are many more that do.

            It’s kind of like the Romney/Ryan budget balancing plan. “Trust us, we’ll reduce tax loopholes. Just don’t ask for us for details because.. well, we’re lying and the fact checkers would point that out. (Insert Ryan’s smile and deer in the headlights blank stare here).”

          • Vagabond661

            hmm…let’s go to the tape: “So are you saying there is no liberal bias in Hollywood?” Link goes to “Hollywood Accused of Rampant Liberal Bias in New Book”.

            then I said: “that was just one link when i googled “liberal bias in hollywood”. There were many more links.”
            Heck, I “binged” it and got over 3 million hits.

            Then you tried to move the goalposts and go waaaaaay off topic. Nice try, grumpy.

          • http://www.wizbangblog.com David Robertson

            Warner’s post has nothing to do with upcoming presidential election. So, how about sticking to the topic?

        • http://www.wizbangblog.com David Robertson

          This discussion is about Hollywood , not about politicians. Are you incapable of sticking to the topic?

  • Par4Course

    The fact that she’s had a long-term (24 year) marriage is more a sign that Kyra is a conservative than her statement on a PBS talk show. ( I wonder how many Wizbang readers watch PBS.) It sounds like she’s come to the common sense conclusion that there is a difference between what she thinks makes political sense (left wingery in Hollywood) and what makes good business sense (appealing to a broad spectrum of viewers including midwest conservatives). It’s nice to know Kyra’s getting some business sense, as I recall she and husband Kevin Bacon were victims of Bernie Madoff’s multi-billion dollar investment scam. BTW, I’m a fan of The Closer – although a bigger fan of Michael Connelly’s 2005 book The Closers.

    • jim_m

      My parents have been married for nearly 60 years and are so far left that Karl Marx had to move over.

      • herddog505

        This is always a problem when using terms “left” and “right”: they mean different things in different contexts. One can, for example, be a fiscal conservative but a social liberal.

      • Brucehenry

        I’ve been married 23 years.

  • http://www.wizbangblog.com David Robertson

    I find this brouhaha about Hollywood to be silly.

    The purpose of any TV show is to keep people entertained long enough for those people to watch the commercials, because the producers of TV shows obtain revenue through the sales of advertising time during the shows.

    If advertisers believe that a show has enough people watching the commercials, then the advertisers will keep providing the producers with revenue.

    So, in the end, politics has nothing to do with the success of a TV show.

    Can a TV show appeal to a certain segment of the national population but not to another segment? Of course. If such an appeal is what it takes to generate enough viewers to satisfy advertisers, then that is what producers will go for.

    That famous philosopher Foghorn Leghorn said, “There might be a market for bottled duck.” In general, TV producers strive to produce shows that will appeal to the largest market of viewers, regardless of the political orientation of those viewers.

  • http://twitter.com/shanemarr66 shanemarr66

    I haven’t been to a movie since 2006. I haven’t watched a network TV show since 24 was cancelled. Can’t say as I miss it.