Pentagon Denies Reports That Marines At U.S. Embassy In Egypt Had No Ammunition

Making the rounds today is a report at (among other places) The Washington Free Beecon, that the Marines station at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo were not permitted to carry live ammunition:

U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo.

Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson “did not permit U.S. Marine guards to carry live ammunition,” according to multiple reports on U.S. Marine Corps blogs spotted by Nightwatch. “She neutralized any U.S. military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.”

All of this was sourced from a single report at NightWatch which based their reports on “marine blogs,” whatever that means. The story picked up steam today when it was featured on Drudge Report.

A Marine spokesman at Pentagon, Lt Col Chris Hughes, says these reports are false. He commented to Fox News on the record:

The Ambassador and RSO have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. No restrictions on weapons or weapons status have been imposed. This information comes from the Det Commander at AMEMB Cairo.

I think we can put this one to bed now…

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Posted by on September 13, 2012.
Filed under Egypt, Military.
Doug Johnson is a news junkie and long time blog reader, turned author.

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  • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

    There is plenty of ammunition at an embassy, this is ridiculous propaganda.

    The primary mission of Marines at an embassy is to safeguard and if necessary destroy classified information, not to protect the lives and the physical premises.

    • jim_m

      The question is not whether the embassy has ammunition. Nobody questions that. At issue is the ridiculously passive and appeasing order that the Marines not CARRY live ammunition. There is nothing like carrying an unloaded weapon and advertising to the world that those weapons are unloaded.

      Bottom line: The left hates the military and does everything in it’s capacity to disarm them and put them in harms way. As far as I can tell the obama admin sees the marine’s duty as being the first to die and not to defend anything except by piling their corpses in the doorway.

      Now we understand why obama called them “corpsemen”.

      • 914

        Obamas dream: To un-employ the military like he has the rest of the country and use solar powered drones to defend America!

    • GarandFan

      Oh? And just how do you “protect lives” when someone is shooting an RPG at you? Wave your ROE’s at them?

      • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

        ROEs and security procedures are classified.

        • herddog505

          Convenient, ain’t it?

          • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

            Yes, anyone can make any claims they want, like that there was no ammunition.

            It would be usual procedure to have different ROE for different areas of the embassy. The Cairo Embassy is a modern building which was designed to be secure in a layered fashion. The basic rule is to delay a mob while classified information is destroyed in the chancery building, not to machine-gun people by the score to prevent intrusion to an outer compound.

            Basically, these people are putting their asses on the line to protect the interests of the USA. They are brave.

            Of course, the retards are baying because there hasn’t been any machine-gunning.
            .

          • Olsoljer

            It will be interesting to hear why no shots were fired by the Marines, there is just no way I can envision them allowing the terrorists (muslims) to tear down and desecrate the American flag. I am sure there was ammunition at the embassy, quite probably locked up somewhere. The embassy is considered US soil, and the Marines were either ordered to “stand down” and not resist, or they didn’t have access to ammunition.

          • Commander_Chico_Cognoscente

            Shooting people to prevent “desecrating” the American flag? Yeah, that’ll cool things down.

            That is the same mentality as the nitwit protesters.

          • Olsoljer

            Are you really a craven coward, or just pretending to be? I suppose on a larger scale, invasion of the United States is ok if we are not armed. Fat chance you moron. That was US soil they attacked. It’s very apparent the only thing you commanded was a typewriter. With people like you around, no wonder the terrorist increase their atrocities.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Flint/1400175990 Kevin Flint

            Olsoljer. What country did you do your Marine embassy guard duty at that makes you such an expert? Yeah, I thought so.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            Where’s your DD-214, Flint?

          • Olsoljer

            Oh look, it’s Kommander koo koos’s butt buddy – SGT Schultz

    • 914

      Ridiculous propaganda by who for what?

      So why not just destroy the information before hand as it is assimilated and send it somewhere else?

      Matter of fact, if your whole mission is to protect or destroy classified info. Then you would only need one person to be staffed since they are not armed anyways? In other words , not very serious about life or death.

      Are you really that oblivious?

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        Based on what he has written here, yes, yes he is.

    • herddog505

      Oh, you mean like this:

      The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the “safe house” in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed “safe”.

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-inside-story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html

      But – GOSH! – I’m SO glad that Romney’s taking a beating in the media about this…

    • UOG

      There was plenty of ammo at the barracks in Beruit, but the Marine guards stood their posts with unloaded weapons due to political concerns. Our Marines in Somolia requested permission for the use of tanks, but it was denied due to political concerns. What in God’s name does plenty of ammo at the embassy have to do with the Marine guards having the necessary tools to do their job?

  • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

    Were the Marines on guard and the QRF provided with live ammunition.

  • GarandFan

    So Washington says. And they’d NEVER lie to us, right?

  • herddog505

    IIRC, the Marines in Beirut had unloaded rifles.
    Two hundred forty-one dead men later…

  • jim_m

    Kiss the presidency goodbye! According to the UK Independent, obama admin knew about embassy attacks beforehand and did nothing.

    According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had
    credible information 48 hours before
    mobs charged the consulate in
    Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be
    targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert
    and “lockdown”, under which movement is severely restricted.

    Read the whole thing. Documents have gone missing. The safe house where embassy employees fled to has been compromised and came under attack.

    obama’s incompetence and ignorance on display for the world.

    • herddog505

      Now we know why MiniTru is working so hard to make this about what Romney said.

  • http://www.wizbangblog.com David Robertson

    The editor of Fox Nation made the mistake on relying solely on The Washington Free Beacon for information. That particular website isn’t one that I would use as a source of information.

    • jim_m

      The embassy’s passive and appeasing posture throughout this does not make the denials credible. Sorry to say that when you spend the majority of your time trying to lay down for these people it is hard to believe claims that you are not continuing to do so.

    • Carl

      The 12 year olds at the Washinton Free Beacon have been outed as idiots already. Apparently, only idiots would read and quote them.

      http://www.salon.com/2012/08/02/the_free_beacons_tax_fail/

  • 914

    If You had live ammunition and the barbarians were at the gate.. Do you not think you would blow their heads off first and ask questions later?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Zimms/100003653414389 Jack Zimms

    The “suppose” Pentagon spokesman gave political double talk. He basically
    said that they were engage in the security situation while refusing to go into
    detail. He not did not say whether the marines were allowed ammo or not. Of course the MSM reads into it whatever will help Obama. They know it was political double talk but they don’t care. Assuming any of it is true

  • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

    How long until chicka starts parsing on the meaning of the word “is?”