Petraeus, Clapper and Timing

Does anyone else find it a bit weird Clapper urged him to resign but yet ‘official sources’ are saying there was no evidence of blackmail or related vulnerability?

Clapper still has to testify and apparently, so will Petraeus if we go by Rep. Gowdy’s statements. So, why urge him to resign? Clinton went through an impeachment and didn’t resign. There has to be more to it.


Reuters via Yahoo:

Director Clapper, as a friend and a colleague and a fellow general officer, advised Director Petraeus that he should do the right thing and he should step down,” the official said.

Clapper is a retired Air Force lieutenant general; Petraeus served nearly four decades in the U.S. Army.

On Wednesday, Clapper notified the National Security Council at the White House that Petraeus was considering resigning and President Barack Obama should be informed, the official said.

U.S. law enforcement and intelligence officials agreed to discuss the Petraeus matter only on condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity and because it is the subject of a law enforcement investigation.

Once Petraeus’ name turned up in the investigation, the importance of the FBI inquiry was immediately escalated, as investigators became concerned the CIA chief somehow might have been compromised, the law enforcement official said.

However, the official and two sources briefed on the matter said no evidence has turned up suggesting Petraeus had become vulnerable to espionage or blackmail. At this point, it appears unlikely that anyone will be charged with a crime as a result of the investigation, the official said.

There seems to be a lot of concern and stressing that the White House had no knowledge of this investigation. I don’t know if I buy that.

From the same article:

Several officials briefed on the matter said senior officials at the Pentagon, CIA and Congress knew nothing of the FBI’s investigation of Petraeus until Thursday afternoon at the earliest, and some key officials were not briefed on the details until Friday.

There is no evidence at this time that anyone at the White House had knowledge of the situation involving Petraeus prior to the U.S. presidential election on Tuesday, which saw Obama elected to a second four-year term.

The FBI was conducting an investigation regarding the CIA on one of the most well-known and visible former Military we have and NO ONE ELSE KNEW? You’re kidding me, right? This bit about no one knowing contradicts a post over at Ace:

FBI Agents “Outraged” That Compromised CIA Director Was Left In Place For Months, To Avoid Political Problems

Impeachment is a matter of time.

I realize that will be unsuccessful, as far as removal from office. But at some point you have to make the point.

Still, the White House, with concurrence by the FBI and Justice Department[go figure on that– ace], held off on asking for Petraeus’ resignation until after the election. His resignation occurred three days after the election, avoiding the possibility that Obama’s ill-fated appointment of Petraeus could become an issue in the election.FBI agents on the case were aware that such a decision had been made to hold off on forcing him out until after the election and were outraged.

“The decision was made to delay the resignation apparently to avoid potential embarrassment to the president before the election,” an FBI source says. “To leave him in such a sensitive position where he was vulnerable to potential blackmail for months compromised our security and is inexcusable.”

So wait, the DOJ knew but not the CIA, White House or anyone else?  Color me unconvinced. Who knows if this is related, but the timing is uncanny.


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  • GarandFan

    Hmmmm…..The FBI investigation starts because they believe the head of the CIA is ‘doing something under the desk’, which escalates to ‘he may be compromised’. And NO ONE tells the White House?

    As for impeachment, ain’t gonna happen.

    • Carl

      Impeachment is just the racists’ latest wet dream.

      • jim_m

        FYI, If the only contribution you have to every thread is to call the commenters here racists you won’t be staying much longer if history is any judge.

      • GarandFan

        You and Hugh seem to have a fixation with nocturnal emissions. And, of course, were would Carl be without his “race card”. It’s the answer to everything.

  • ackwired

    There is much more to this than we know at this time. The FBI would not have been investigating unless a serious crime was involved.

    • jim_m

      Whatever happened to the vacuous left wing cant that “It’s just about sex”?

      • Commander_Chico

        What do you think this was about?

        • jim_m

          The lefty excuse was meant to say that it wasn’t important or significant and therefore should be ignored. I am sure that you have conveniently forgotten that fact.

          • Commander_Chico

            I am too busy imagining how Paula and David got started. Was it in the General Officer quarters in Afghanistan? How did it go from interviews to the sexy-sexy?

    • Commander_Chico

      FBI does security investigations on top officials and counterintelligence.

  • Commander_Chico

    Petraeus was a national hero and had an affair with an ambitious and apparently very competent woman, a major, military intelligence branch in the USAR.

    She turned out to be a bunny boiler.

    You can scratch Superwoman and just beneath the surface you find Drama Queen.

    Just like there’s a Bubba Horndog inside every hero.

  • retired.military

    “impeachment is a matter of time”

    I dont know where you came up with that. Yes House republicans may impeach but the Senate Dems will never vote for it. Cries of racsim will be headlines in the news for weeks. charges of hate over the election results.
    I always believed in trying to do the right thing but this will be cutting off ones nose to spite the face.

    • jim_m

      Agreed. As I have said before, obama could be caught on live national television murdering a congressional page with a machete and Harry Reid and the dems in the Senate would never vote to convict and the MSM would refuse to cover the story.

      obama could trample every article of the constitution and there would be no interest in impeachment.

      • Carl

        What an over-the top idiot.

        You know, if you extremists werent’ so racist you might come down to the reality that Obama isn’t any different than the rest of us. His skin color is different from yours, Jim, but he’s flesh and blood and as American as anyone else here.

        Why does his skin color drive the Tea Party right to go so over the top in their hatred?

        obama could be caught on live national television murdering a congressional page with a machete and Harry Reid and the dems in the Senate would never vote to convict and the MSM would refuse to cover the story.

        obama could trample every article of the constitution and there would be no interest in impeachment.

        That’s so over the top stupid its obvious that your hatred, outright HATRED for the black man in the white house will drive you to say the stupidest shit.

        Get real for a change. Maybe you idiots won’t cause the GOP to lose the next election….

        • jim_m

          You are the racist injecting race into every thread on this board. I did not mention anything about race and my remarks were entirely about ideology.

        • 914

          You lunatic. He said nothing about race.

        • retired.military

          Why do you keep on bringing up race when Jim never mentioned it?
          Again you see why some on the right gets so upset about crap. Both sides make sweeping statements like Carl’s and it does nothing to add to the conversation.

      • he has trampled most if not all

    • 914

      True.. But they would have said the same thing before the election. At this point I do not care what or how much they scream and holler. The guy is running 3 simultaneous cover up’s and needs to go period.

      • retired.military

        But the fact is he wont go. Not until the people who put the dems in power say he has to. Sadly for the vast majority of them the free stuff they are getting is more important to them than anything else. That is why some dictators are loved by the poor in their country. They give them things (without improving their standing in life) and rape the country for billions and the poor love them.

  • Hugh_G

    It’s pretty simple. Adultery is a crime in the military. is it prosecuted? Not that often. Is it unacceptable for a general officer? Absolutely.

    Is adultery a dischargeable offense in the CIA? Absolutely.

    Did the president hold off asking for his resignation? We’ll see. But so what.

    • jim_m

      Petraeus retired from the army 8/31/2011 so whatever the Uniform Code of Military Justice says about adultery is immaterial.

      • Hugh_G

        OK. Thanks for the correction.

        Is it unacceptable for a retired general officer? Of course.

        • jim_m

          NO. Apparently only acceptable in dem Presidents.

          • Hugh_G

            Or IKE.

            Your faux moral superiority is just a tad sickening.

          • jim_m

            Let’s be honest. The only President where an affair has really come out during his term has been Clinton. There are moral failings on both sides. The difference is that the left does not take those failings seriously on their own side. Everyone takes them seriously when they happen to a right wing politician.

          • Hugh_G

            That makes a difference?

            And, as usual, you’re wrong – about your moral superiority.

        • retired.military

          Ask Colin Powell. I know of several people who worked on his staff who have stated that the reason he never ran for public office were that “Women issues” would come out. I cant verify the truth of those statements but I believe those who told me believe it to be true.

    • GarandFan

      “So what.”

      How appropriate. Well Hugh, if it was such A SECURITY RISK, it couldn’t really have been much of one…seeing how long (and conveniently) Barry let it go on. Barry could have put him on administrative leave while the investigation was going on. But he didn’t.

      • Hugh_G

        As usual you are deep into your wet dream.

        Anything wrong with waiting for the facts?

        Got your watermelons ready and your gun all loaded up?

        • GarandFan

          TRANSLATION: I got nothing.

          • jim_m

            It’s marginally better than Carl’s immediate accusation of racism.

        • 914

          We have been waiting for the facts on Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Barry’s college transcripts and where all the jobs went?

          I sense a pattern of evasion, secrecy and malfeasance here?

          • It’s called ‘transparency’. We should remember it, and use the same sort of transparency in the future…

          • 914

            It’s transparent alright.

    • retired.military


      Petraeus resigned Aug 2011. He is no longer on active duty.

      He is still authorized to wear the uniform though and to be called General.

      His military service had nothing to do with his resignation.
      In addition, since the affair was to become public I doubt the security clearance issue that Chico keeps bringing up had anything to do with it either other than maybe appearances.

      • Hugh_G

        Yes, I was corrected about that. I also read that his mentor and the man who advised him to retire was or had been a general also.

  • Laddie_Blah_Blah

    The CIA vetting process should have revealed the affair. Everyone entering the CIA takes a lie detector test and one of the key questions is “Is there anything in your background that could be a problem,” or something to that effect. My guess is Petraeus came clean when he was vetted but got the gig, anyway. He broke off the relationship at about the same time as he became Director (circa September, 2011) according to press reports. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

    My guess is the CIA knew, but did not view it as enough of a threat to disqualify Petraeus. It is almost unthinkable that the CIA did not know, and knew long before the FBI got involved.

  • Carl

    Petreus was the darling of the right 6 years ago. Now they can’t wait to throw this genuine American hero under the bus.

    A black president changed everything…. and the Tea Party haters show no signs of coming back.

    • jim_m

      In what alternate reality are you living? No one wants to throw Petraeus under the bus other than obama. The right wants Petraeus to testify. Everyone who wants him to disappear is on the left.

      Plus I’ll note that you (Once again) are the first to interject race into the issue, demonstrating again that racism comes most frequently from those who see it first. If you are hearing the dog whistle it’s because you are the dog.

      • Carl

        Obama’s not throwing anyone under the bus. That’s just more race-based lies from the race-based haters on the right.

        The racists are so besides themselves they are frothing at the mouth at any chance they perceive to nail that black man.

    • 914

      Was never a darling of anything. Whenever the msm props someone up, You know they are phony.

  • Not_Phyllis

    I hope Darrell Issa convenes an oversight hearing to find out what Eric Cantor knows, and when he knew it!

    • Carl

      He knew everything back in October. He said nothing. He did nothing.

      House majority leader Eric Cantor talked to an FBI official in late
      October about former CIA Director David Petraeus’ involvement in an
      affair, a spokesman for the congressman told CNN Sunday.

      • jim_m

        Wrong again, liar.

        Cantor’s chief of staff, Steve Stombres, later spoke with FBI officials to pass on the accusations

        So your complaint boils down to the fact that Cantor heard about the affair and reported the rumor to the FBI but failed to run to the MSM to turn it into a public scandal.

        Apparently you believe that doing what you are obliged to do under the law is a concern for a congressional investigation but knowing that our embassy is being assaulted by al quaida and doing nothing about it is not.

        Additionally, it appears that the FBI was already investigating Petraeus for several months before Cantor gave them this information. The story you link says that Cantor learned about the info 2 weeks ago and reported it on 10/31 so there was not any significant delay in reporting the info.

  • herddog505

    One would think that a man of Petraeus’ unquestionable intelligence and long experience would know better than to so obviously open himself to potential blackmail. Jebus… Draw and quarter the SOB for gross stupidity if nothing else.

    • Commander_Chico

      I wonder how Petraeus’s prostate cancer figured in this. An older guy, likely worries about potency – I understand why he might have gone the way he did.

      I met the guy once, had a chat at an event after his first Iraq tour. Seemed sincere and humble, so I wish him well.

  • Solitairedog

    If the president didn’t know about it, you’d be screaming “why not?” If he did know about it, you’d be screaming “coverup!” Anything to smear the President of the United States, eh?