#Benghazi: Looking Like A Middle East Fast and Furious

For months we’ve heard nothing but lies about lies from this administration since four Americans were murdered by terrorists in Benghazi, Libya. One of the big questions that has plagued those following the story is why this administration chose to lie for weeks on end about the cause of the attack being an obscure YouTube video. We might finally be seeing a reason for that lie. From the NY Times, committing a random act of journalism:

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar last year, but American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants, according to United States officials and foreign diplomats.

No evidence has emerged linking the weapons provided by the Qataris during the uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi to the attack that killed four Americans at the United States diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, in September.

But in the months before, the Obama administration clearly was worried about the consequences of its hidden hand in helping arm Libyan militants, concerns that have not previously been reported. The weapons and money from Qatar strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to become a destabilizing force since the fall of the Qaddafi government.

The experience in Libya has taken on new urgency as the administration considers whether to play a direct role in arming rebels in Syria, where weapons are flowing in from Qatar and other countries.

The Obama administration did not initially raise objections when Qatar began shipping arms to opposition groups in Syria, even if it did not offer encouragement, according to current and former administration officials. But they said the United States has growing concerns that, just as in Libya, the Qataris are equipping some of the wrong militants.

The over the top, schoolyard like outrage feigned by this President over the criticism of Susan Rice now looks even more pathetic, as does this administration’s childish games of playing hot potato with who altered the now famous talking points.

This is looking like a Middle East version of Fast and Furious – or perhaps a terrorist version of a cartel turf war –  if you read the Times piece to the end.  There are several paragraphs dedicated to one Marc Turi, an arms merchant.

In March 2011, just as the Libyan civil war was intensifying, Mr. Turi realized that Libya could be a lucrative new market, and applied to the State Department for a license to provide weapons to the rebels there, according to e-mails and other documents he has provided. (American citizens are required to obtain United States approval for any international arms sales.)

He also e-mailed J. Christopher Stevens, then the special representative to the Libyan rebel alliance. The diplomat said he would “share” Mr. Turi’s proposal with colleagues in Washington, according to e-mails provided by Mr. Turi. Mr. Stevens, who became the United States ambassador to Libya, was one of the four Americans killed in the Benghazi attack on Sept. 11.

Mr. Turi’s application for a license was rejected in late March 2011. Undeterred, he applied again, this time stating only that he planned to ship arms worth more than $200 million to Qatar. In May 2011, his application was approved. Mr. Turi, in an interview, said that his intent was to get weapons to Qatar and that what “the U.S. government and Qatar allowed from there was between them.”

Two months later, though, his home near Phoenix was raided by agents from the Department of Homeland Security. Administration officials say he remains under investigation in connection with his arms dealings. The Justice Department would not comment.

Mr. Turi said he believed that United States officials had shut down his proposed arms pipeline because he was getting in the way of the Obama administration’s dealings with Qatar. The Qataris, he complained, imposed no controls on who got the weapons. “They just handed them out like candy,” he said.

Wherein this administration was possibly attempting to curtail US gun ownership via the orchestrated and botched gun running done during Fast and Furious, the Obama administration seemed to want to arm Arabs to the teeth.

It is noteworthy that the NY Times has already tried to insert itself into the administration’s narrative that this was about a YouTube video. (read: NY Times Inserts Itself Into Benghazi-gate)

The bigger questions surrounding the attack in Benghazi  still remained unanswered. Hillary Clinton has yet to testify.  At hearings last month, Clinton was unavailable. Mrs. Clinton made sweeping statements of responsibility then took off for Australia with Leon Panetta on “official business”. You’d think she’d know better after what she and Obama made sure Nakoula was jailed for making that video those pesky probation violations.  (Related: Benghazi-Gate: Falling On Her Sword Edition – UPDATES also, LL1885’s Nakoula posts here.)

Why was only one small CIA team dispatched to Benghazi when the attack began? Panetta would have us believe the Benghazi consulate didn’t request any assistance. Anywhere from 50 to 100 armed terrorists were assaulting our consulate with heavy arms and mortar, yet Panetta said no one called for help. Pardon me, but bullshit, Sir. What a sad and insulting attempt to distract from the reports there were indeed calls for help and attempts to aid the consulate were met with ‘stand down’ orders. (Related: Inside Benghazi: “No practical training”)

Why is there no evidence suggesting this President was involved in any of the decision-making the night of the attack? He’s been less than modest to date with his drone conquests and football spiking over Bin Laden’s death. (Related: Where’s the #Benghazi Situation Room Photo Op?)

Why was security for this consulate and Ambassador Stevens scaled back when all evidence for over 6 months leading up to the attack on 9/11 pointed to the need for more security?  Who denied him additional protection? Stevens himself wrote several cables requesting more security; he knew he was an assassination target. There was a violent history in the region and an attempt on the British Ambassador’s life. It’s pretty clear that this administration seems capable of defending only one Ambassador – their useful idiot, Susan Rice. (Related: Colonel: Hillary Made Decision Not to Post Marines at Benghazi)


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  • Here’s another question: Why is the CIA now claiming that the talking points were watered down to protect sources, and the investigation, when we know from the declassified email alerts sent from US Embassy-Tripoli to the Whitehouse, CIA and State, during the attack, that all were informed then that al-Qaeda affiliate Ansar al-Sharia was already publicly claiming responsibility on Facebook and Twitter? Are we to believe the CIA was worried about being unfriended? It’s ridiculous. Facebook and Twitter posts made by the terrorists themselves hardly qualify as sources that need to be protected, and the lies just keep on coming.

    Email alerts from Tripoli during the attack are here:


  • Carl

    Aside from spamming for your personal website – is there any point to dragging this non-story forward?

    If there is I don’t see it, but knock yourself out LL. Make political hay out of the death of Americans, cause embassy attacks never happened under Bush’s reign of terror.

    • The_Queen_of_France

      Carl, you’re really Jay Carney, aren’t you?

      • Carl

        Only if you’re really the Queen of France.

      • No, he’s not Jay. He only mindlessly repeats Jay’s lies.

    • spatch1

      You can point to other attacks and citizens of this country were equally shocked and outraged as they are over Benghazi. With Benghazi the fact that it was happening in real time and these four brave honorable men had asked for support and rescue and were allowed to die clouds and angers most Americans. I don’t care what your politics are, these are four men who were murdered because this technologically advanced military were told to stand down and we have a right to demand a full exposure of the response by the White House. This is not a non-story, four men murdered and you resort to a political red herring instead of being just as angered and outraged over their deaths. I don’t know what your moral compass is when you attempt to use the political devisiveness response.

      • Carl

        It’s clear that mistakes were made and things should have been handled differently.

        To suggest that this is some grand conspiracy worthy of a public hanging is just partisan bullshit. This never happened to the Bush administration? Bullshit. What didn’t happen under the Bush administration is that you didn’t have these kind of partisan witch hunts.

        As I said on another thread, GTFU. This kind of positioning bullshit has caused the right to lose the popular vote in presidential elections 5 out of the last 6 times. Americans are tired of you haters and your incessant whining and complaining like children. GTFU.

        • Four dead Americans = “mistakes were made and things should have been handled differently.”

          Forget what I said above. To call you an asshole is an insult to assholes.

          • Sky__Captain

            Carl’s also a racist, immature troll.

            And I’ll state it emphatically, even though I may insult racist, immature trolls everywhere.

    • Four dead Americans = a “non-story.” You’re an asshole.

    • Sky__Captain

      Nice try at deflection, little troll.
      However, the Bungle in Benghazi has a LOT of unanswered questions.
      Someday, they may get answered. But L’il Carl here won’t like the results.

    • Commander_Chico

      The point should be, if you’re so concerned about the 4 Americans killed at Benghazi, what about the 40+ killed in Afghanistan since then?

      When LL asks questions about why they died, I might think she really cares about Americans killed in overseas fiascos.

      • herddog505

        You’re right: why is Barry letting our men continue to die to no good purpose in A-stan?

        Oh, wait… you didn’t really want that question asked, did you? Um… OK, so:

        Why is Barry continuing to inflame Muslim passions by keeping Muslims locked up without trial in Gitmo?

        Oooops…. Was that a bad one, too? Then, how about:
        Why is Barry continuing to outrage the Islamic world and flaunt international law by continuing to order drone attacks – that often kill innocent women and children as “collateral damage” – against people who are only “suspected” of being terrorists?

        Oh, man… I’m sorry. I guess that was another bad question. WAIT! I KNOW!

        Why are people such RAAAAACIST a**holes for daring to suggest that Barry ever does anything wrong?

        • Commander_Chico

          Hey, I agree with you on all of that. I didn’t vote for Barry. I ended up not voting at all, was in Malaysia at the time and did not file for an absentee. I gave $500 to Gary Johnson, though.

          Barry sucks. Romney was hardly an alternative given his bellicose chickenhawkery on Iran, Libya and Syria and the clowns and liars he had around him on foreign policy (Bolton, Senor)

          The USA is fucked until it wakes up from the idea that it’s got to run the world, no matter how much it costs and how many wars it takes.

          • Brian_R_Allen

            …. was in Malaysia at the time ….

            Scary. I was next door.(s)

            In Thailand and in Singapore.

            But where was Mister-Tea?

          • Commander_Chico

            Ha, did you fly Air Asia or Tiger or Bangkok Express between SIN and BKK? Do you live there? I might go back soon.

          • Brian_R_Allen

            Have homes in Singapore and Chiang Mai – Usually fly Silkair SIN CNX – I like a bit of pandering & MI has a nice Business Class. But use Tiger and Air Asia heaps, too — and, lately, Scoot Biz, regularly, to and from Aus.

          • Commander_Chico

            Excellent, I’ve been wanting to visit Chiang Mai in particular, I’ll send a message here if I do. I loved Georgetown in Malaysia, want to go back there.

          • Brian_R_Allen

            Have homes in Singapore and Chiang Mai – Usually fly Silkair SIN CNX – I like a bit of pandering & MI has a nice Business Class. But use Tiger and Air Asia heaps, too — and, lately, Scoot Biz, regularly, to and from Aus.

          • Commander_Chico

            Ha, did you fly Air Asia or Tiger or Bangkok Express between SIN and BKK? Do you live there? I might go back soon.

          • 914

            You would have done better to gamble the five hundred on the lottery.

          • Commander_Chico

            It made me feel good. Not as much as some other $500 I’ve spent, but I’m glad I did it.

          • Commander_Chico

            It made me feel good. Not as much as some other $500 I’ve spent, but I’m glad I did it.

          • 914

            You would have done better to gamble the five hundred on the lottery.

  • 914

    The cover up to keep from covering the cover ups are getting harder to cover up..

  • spatch1

    It is becoming more and more apparent by the silence and lack of information coming out of the White House that our President was not involved in responding to the Benghazi slaughter. No public release of the Presidential order to give aid, no time line of what was happening in the WH over the eight hours, who was directing any action to help these four brave honorable men who died after calling for help. No one will publicly show documentation of any kind written or photographic to show anyone was doing anything to send aid.

    • Carl

      And President Obama doesn’t have a long form birth certificate — until he did. I have faith that those in Washington did the best they could with the information they had at hand.

      It’s not like they got us into a extended war over phony, trumped up bullshit…. now, is it? No, that would be you clowns.

      And you’ll no doubt tell us that Bush did the best he could with the information he had at hand. And you’d be right. Yes, mistakes were made. Welcome to war.

      • LiberalNightmare

        Are we at war with Libya all of a sudden?

      • “I have faith that those in Washington did the best they could with the information they had at hand.”

        Holy crap. I wouldn’t say that about ANYONE in Washington. I vote Republican, but I still keep the ones in Washington at arm’s length and put no faith in them.

      • Vagabond661

        Mistakes made is a lot different than lies told.

    • Christopher Larson

      Or that it isn’t worth the time for the Republicans to make hay out of it anymore. Like in Fast and Furious when the agents were interviewed by Forbes, but not Daryl Issa. We want answers? If you sit and yell it enough times, and you don’t find anything, you can always pretend like there is a massive cover up.

  • Brian_R_Allen

    …. No evidence “has emerged” linking American weapons provided via the Qataris … to the attack that killed four Americans ….

    Horse poop.

    Check the videos!

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  • who_are_the_brain_police

    Is it not a bit odd that there were no spontaneous protests of any kind at the main US (Libyan) embassy in Tripoli on 11 September 2012. The only reaction was after the news of Benghazi that a day later protest and vandalism at the KFC was staged in Tripoli.

  • Christopher Larson

    Do you know why nobody cares? Because the only investigation Republicans care about is one that shows that Obama is crooked, and is the worst President in the history of America. We get it. If it isn’t this, it will be the next time Obama farts that you will be there to point it out.

    You MIGHT have some credibility if you weren’t sleeping from 2001-2008 as we were lied to on a scale never witnessed in my lifetime. The trillion dollar kind.

    Yawwnnn…….Maybe next time. This one isn’t getting any traction. It certainly isn’t going to be as huge as the next Whitewater or anything. HAHAHAHA!!