Fear of being committed may have caused Connecticut madman to snap

Lots of speculation in the media about motives, and like everything else we’ve seen so far this should be taken with a grain of caution.  Fox News is reporting the madman in Newtown snapped over his mother’s attempts to have him committed to a mental facility against his will and targeted the school because he believed his mother cared more for the students than him.

The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families.

(The murderer) targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown after killing his mother early Friday because he believed she loved the school “more than she loved him,” said Joshua Flashman, 25, who grew up not far from where the shooting took place. Flashman, a U.S. Marine, is the son of a pastor at an area church where many of the victims’ families worship.

Much time will pass before we know the truth about what drove him to kill.  He was clearly not well and his mother was ill-equipped to deal with him by herself.

Related update:

Psychiatrist: (Killer) Was ‘Pseudocommando’ with ‘Wounded Narcissism’

The report continues: “[The pseudocommando] most often kills in public during the daytime. And has no escape planned. Pseudocommandos are ‘collectors of injustice’ who nurture their wounded narcissism and ultimately retreat into a fantasy life of violence and revenge.”

Knoll wrote that killers like Lanza have an “obliterative mindset … his ‘self’ is already dead and … his physical death is of little consequence” in his own mind.

 

 

 

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  • MichaelLaprarie

    This certainly sounds reasonable to me. Of course there is no justifiable “reason” for gunning down kids, but my first thought after I heard about the shooting, and that the shooter’s mother was connected to the school (teacher or substitute teacher) was that the killer had snapped and somehow considered the children to be a threat to his relationship with his mother.

    • SteveCrickmore075

      Yes, the more i read, the more I believe Nancy Lanza took such a risk leaving so much ammunition, she was probably stockpiling this as well as her gun collection. He would have known where the key was if the guns and amo were locked up., but she could probably not bare to part with her guns, maybe she felt she needed them to deter her son. As parents of young kids we make sure a house is child proof, but to tell a young disturbed man with a raging temper that you are about to commit him involuntarily, and he has no way out (but the unthinkable), must have been devastating to him! The linked psychiatric report Baron provides, could have described to a ‘ t ‘ everyone of the nerd /extremely antisocial/ lover of violent video games and guns who go on a gun rampage, as if it were a finger print or phtograph!.

      • jim_m

        You know it’s funny. My father had my grandfather’s colt model 1917 from WWI and I knew he had it but never knew where he kept it. Heck I still don’t know where he keeps it.

        The point is that parents can keep guns safe and this was an error on her part. Perhaps she thought she had taken sufficient precautions. Kids can be pretty persistent in finding out secrets (it’s Christmas, how many of us never found out what our presents were?) it would not surprise me if she thought the guns were secure but he had already figured out how to access them.

        • SteveCrickmore075

          You were luckier, my grandfather was a sniper in WW1 and only came back with half a lung, from a shell injury. I remember he had a old rifle somewhere hanging up in the cellar unloaded for hunting,That was the extent of his gun collection in those days.

          • jim_m

            My Grandpa was in the very beginning of the Army Air Force His experience in hardware and woodworking got him assigned to the department collecting inventories of wood for the construction of airframes. Given the carnage that was WWI I think he was the lucky one.

          • SteveCrickmore075

            Yes, anyone that survived, more than a year in the trenches was fortunate.My grandfather was the only survivor in a ambulance that was shelled.That is why I think these preppies are embarrassingly nuts… stockpiling water in a two acre estate house in a rich section of Connecticut as if they were living under a siege in Stalingrad. They should get some perpective about what a real armageddon was like on the western front or the eastern front. The only thing my grandad could do to ‘prepare’ for the mustard attacks in the trenches, was to pee into his hankerchief and put it over his mouth.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/ Baron Von Ottomatic

            The folks in my office used the same technique on afternoons when I had Mexican food for lunch…

        • Conservachef

          Jim, I’d say it’s a pretty fine line to walk. In normal circumstances, once your child is old (and responsible) enough to handle it, I’d consider the idea of teaching them where the self-defense gun(s) is/are. Now, that is in normal circumstances with a relatively mature and responsible child, having already learned about firearm safety, use, and care.

          I keep looking at this case, and wondering how one could secure the guns safely. We’re talking about family here- (a) most families will share that sort of knowledge, and (b) could you really tell your child that the self-defense gun(s) are locked where they can’t get them, even in an emergency?

          Not knowing the intimate details of the boy’s psychology, and his mother’s, I have to go on what I’ve learned so far- maybe she didn’t do enough to secure the guns from him. Not to the point of negligence, but not secure enough for their specific situation. Maybe she could have rented a storage locker at the gun club, or kept them at a relative’s house (except one for home defense). But in the end, he’s the one that went on the rampage and every gun control solution I’ve heard so far wouldn’t have stopped him.

  • SteveCrickmore075

    We still don’t know if she was a teacher or subsititute or had no connection with the Sandy Hook school? There have been so many rumors by the media and the police even four days after the shooting, Susan Rice’s reporting as to what happened in Benhgazi seems pellucid, by comparison.

    • jim_m

      I have seen several reports that say the school has no record of her and has never had any relationship with her as a teacher or a teacher’s aide.

    • retired.military

      The only difference is within 2 weeks we will have a detailed timeline step by step of what happened at the school. After 4 months we still dont know that about Bhengazi.

      • SteveCrickmore075

        You have time, it took over a year to get the real story, more or less on Bin Laden’s death!

  • $8105658

    this is so bogus. she was NOT a teacher, or a teacher’s aide. She had NO connection to the school. Where do these half-a$$ed reporters come up with this garbage? ‘I talked to guy guy who might have known…” Sheeze. He met some influential people (I’ll leave it at that) through online gaming who took advantage of his Alsperger’s

  • MichaelLaprarie

    A relevant quote from the article:

    “Adam Lanza attended the Sandy Hook School as a boy, according to [Joshua] Flashman [a family friend], who said Nancy Lanza had volunteered there for several years. Two law enforcement sources said they believed Nancy Lanza had been volunteering with kindergartners at the school. Most of Lanza’s victims were first graders sources believe Nancy Lanza may have worked with last year.

    Flashman said Nancy Lanza was also good friends with the school’s principal and psychologist—both of whom were killed in the shooting rampage.”

    At this point we don’t know all the details, but there has to be some connection between Lanza, his mother, and the school. It is entirely possible that a quick records check by school officials done in the wake of such a disturbing event might not have been accurate. There have been multiple sources from the community who have stated that Lanza’s mother had some sort of relationship with the school, so at this point I would treat that information as credible.

    • jim_m

      Sigh. I wish our media could just get one story straight on this event.

      • Constitution First

        The m a l f e a s e n t media only publishes what serves their ideological agenda.

  • http://www.traveLightgame.com/ ljcarolyne

    No, the real reason for this is simple. Lanza’s father was to testify in the Libor Scandal, same as Holmes’ father was. All a conspiracy by our lousy commie government to cover up, gun running lies, kill and steal when & where ever they can.
    Bengazi plays a part in this, Hitlary too. Wake up folks and report this right.
    Who’s kidding who??????????????? The Usurper has no one fooled if he thinks so, he can think again. POS!

    • Brucehenry

      Kook

      • jim_m

        I thought that was the plot summary for the next Oliver Stone movie.

    • Constitution First

      ijcoarolyne, If you’re going to make outrageous accusations, you had better cite your sources. The timing sure smelled of a false-flag operation, but as of this moment, there is zero evidence (not even a hint) of such a conspiracy, unless you know something we don’t.

  • Paul Hooson

    Unfortunately, mental illness tends to run in families and is usually never completely unique to just one family member. And, although Nancy Lanza received alimony payments close to $290,000 last year, there is some question why she stockpiled so much in dangerous weapons such as Glock weapons, that are generally associated with drug dealers or gangsters. This might have a higher income single parent family, but too many facts here suggest a highly dysfunctional household where a tougher male babysitter had to be hired to watch the disturbed son, with a warning from Nancy Lanza to him, not to turn his back on the disturbed kid. Unfortunately as disturbed as he was, Nancy Lanza often took him out to target practice with her, and helped to make him a deadly shot where every shot he fired killed someone, and the children’s heads and bodies were so badly damaged by bullets, that parents had to identify their dead via photos. Unlike most shooting incidents, there wasn’t a number of merely wounded this time.

    • jim_m

      dangerous weapons such as Glock weapons

      Sheer ignorance. Shock me by telling me why a Glock is more dangerous than another pistol of the same caliber.

      • Paul Hooson

        In the hands of law enforcement or the military, any weapon that fires 5 bullets a second is fine. In the hands of an insane person, this is very lethal force. The Second Amendment probably protects the public ownership of the Glock 9mm, and Sig Sauer 9mm. However, the Bushmaster is likely to disappear from the marketplace for several reasons. After this shooting, a powerful teacher’s union pulled their mutual fund money from the company that produces this weapon, and this company announced that the Bushmaster line of guns will be discontinued. Further, assault rifles could face new legislation limiting magazine size or even the new public sale to civilians. Likely this is the only changes that you will see among these three weapons used by this crazed gunman to mow down 6 and 7 year old school children. If assault rifles survive, it might be with smaller magazines, or a slower rate of firing. But, the Second Amendment will never allow for government to outlaw public ownership of guns, but only to prevent certain military or law enforcement weapons from ownership by the public. Hunter or gun collector’s rights are highly unlikely to be infringed on here except in the narrow realm of some assault weapon legislation.

        • jim_m

          any weapon that fires 5 bullets a second is fine.

          Except that such weapons are illegal for sale to civilians and none of the weapons used in this crime were capable of doing so. ALL required a pull of the trigger to fire each individual round. When conservatives get PO’d at you and mock you for being ignorant THIS is what we are talking about. Fully automatic weapons have been illegal since 1934.

          As for the rifle. LOL, There are dozens of similar rifles on the market. And NONE of them are going to to be made illegal by renewing the assault weapons ban. In fact had you bothered to do even a superficial bit of investigation you would have found out that the Bushmaster was in compliance with the assault weapons ban and that Connecticut has a state ban which it is compliant with.

          Rational debate with people like you is impossible because you are so completely ignorant about the subject. You don’t know what the law is, you don’t know what the weapons are capable of, you don’t know what you don’t know.

          The only effect of renewing the assault weapons ban would be to reduce the capacity of new magazines. And based on studies by the CDC and others I can guarantee you that it will have no effect in reducing homicides.

          • Conservachef

            Rational debate with people like you is impossible because you are so completely ignorant about the subject.

            And yet he seems to think that he is very knowledgeable on the topic.

            For what it’s worth, you might could squeeze off five shots in 1 second with a semi-auto pistol. You’d probably also be lucky to hit anything even remotely close to your target. Of course, I’ve seen some pretty fancy quick-shots by trick shooters, but those were with shotguns or revolvers.

          • Conservachef

            Rational debate with people like you is impossible because you are so completely ignorant about the subject.

            And yet he seems to think that he is very knowledgeable on the topic.

            For what it’s worth, you might could squeeze off five shots in 1 second with a semi-auto pistol. You’d probably also be lucky to hit anything even remotely close to your target. Of course, I’ve seen some pretty fancy quick-shots by trick shooters, but those were with shotguns or revolvers.

        • Conservachef

          Paul, I’m fairly sure that law enforcement & military personnel aren’t interested in getting 5 shots off in a second from their pistol. For the most part, they look for accuracy over volume.

          As has been pointed out, and repeated over and over, the current liberal “idea” to re-institute the ’94 Clinton gun ban would be useless because the Bushmaster complied with it as well as CT’s current, very strict gun control laws. The ’94 gun ban was based almost entirely on cosmetic criteria- not a very logical way to approach firearms. You might as well ban all pink guns.

          You may know more about the mechanics of semi-auto rifles than me, but I don’t know how you can effectively slow the rate of fire in a rifle. A lot of what goes on inside them relies on spring tension and gas pressure- not really something you can soften (slow down) and keep working properly. In any case, with all semi-automatic weapons, one pull of the trigger means one shot. You’re really limited by how fast you can pull the trigger and keep the rifle on target.

          Limiting magazine size is a very weak argument. Seriously, all you have to do is push a button to drop the old magazine out and push another in it’s place then release the bolt/slide. If you can get 5 good shots off in one second, then I can easily change mags that quickly. If you were in a firefight with other armed individuals, then higher capacity magazines would be helpful, but so many of these tragedies happen in gun-free zones. The nutjob usually ends it when armed resistance arrives, so magazine capacity, reloading, etc. doesn’t really become a factor.

          Seriously, when was the last time you heard about an honest-to-goodness firefight between armed individuals?

    • Evil Otto

      Glocks are very commonly used by law enforcement officers, and are popular thoughout the county.They are not “associated” with gang bangers or drug dealers, except in the minds of people who know nothing about firearms.

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