Black Comedian: White People Aren’t Allowed to Decide What’s Racist

Many on the far left continue to claim that America needs to have “a discussion” on race–even though we’ve been talking about it since roughly 1787. But one black comedian, W. Kamau Bell, apparently doesn’t want to have that discussion. He says all whites are racist, that is that, and they shouldn’t be allowed to talk about what’s racist and what isn’t.

The extremist host of FX’s Totally Biased with W. Kamau Bell, told the media that white people should not speak of cases like the George Zimmerman trial.

The worst thing to say to a person of color is, ‘I don’t think that’s racist.’ I don’t think that’s your area. You can have an opinion but I don’t think you are the final word. That’s what’s missing, white people. You’ve got a lot of jobs” but should not have the ‘I know what’s racist’ job. I know what’s imperialism – that’s your job.”

So, white people aren’t allowed to talk about racism? OK, then how do we have this “conversation about race” that the left keeps clamoring for?

Ah, but we know how the left wants to “converse.” They want to tell us that all whites are racist and whites should just shut up and do what the left tells them to do.

There’s nothing like the sort of one-sided discussion, empty of truth that the left loves, eh?

Bell has made these sort of overarching, unintelligent claims before. In 2012 he said that he didn’t need the Tea Party to be 100% racist for him to “feel perfectly fine calling them racist.” Even if the Tea Party were only 10% racist, that was enough for him to call all Tea Partiers racist, he said.

So what do you think? Is this the way to have that “conversation on race” the left wants?

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  • Hank_M

    Chris Matthews isn’t going to like this.

  • Paul Hooson

    Oh crap, that sure puts the lid on my ethnic housefire jokes with those absurd and offensive ethnic stereotype punchlines! My whole act is gone now! I’m ruined!

  • pabarge

    The “W.” stands for weiner-sucker.

  • jim_m

    There is a belief by many on the left and especially so in minorities on the left that 1) minorities (well really exclusively Blacks and Hispanics) can never be racist and 2) that Whites are always racist and 3) Whites have no say what-so-ever in determining what racism is.

    It’s sad because what this really does is shield Blacks from criticism and allows them to wallow in their own racism without any sort of rebuke or criticism. Thus we get Jesse Jackson talking about “Hymietown” and making other antisemitic and racial slurs and we get Trayvon Martin routinely referring to White people as “crackers” and thinking that he isn’t a racist (an no one on the left is willing to call it racist either, frankly). Funny how the left is perfectly OK with breeding racial hate in the Black community while demanding that everyone else kowtow to their rampant and unfounded accusations of racism in others.

    • Constitution First

      Victimhood mentally is just another form of slavery.
      The shame is that it is self-imposed.

    • Harry Mann

      Part of the problem is that when someone is racist to you, or when a particular group of people exhibit racism towards you, and you don’t respond in kind, then you may begin to feel like it is all beginning to grind you down. Racist don’t typically reveal their racism when they are in a crowd of black people. They will do it if there is one black person participating in some activity in which the majority of the group is composed of, say for example, white people. Could be an Asian racist, Latino racist, whatever, same general principle. Also, in any kind of discussion at all, there are white people who will infer race into the discussion and try to make it the leading feature. You could be having a disagreement over the cost of tea in China, and they will become racially antagonistic towards you, in a very direct manner. And if you ever use the word “white” in a manner in which it is tied to a negative connotation, you will see people getting upset. But it is a matter of routine to use “black” in that fashion. And, on a psychological scale, that is known as “splitting”, and it’s a form of pathology. Black and white thinking is pathological.

  • Lawrence Westlake

    Empty tree falling in a vacant forest. Nobody of conseqence ever has heard of this guy, much less cares what he says or thinks. Plus Sharpton and Jackson were bloviating this sort of tripe 25 years ago; Bell is quite late to the race-baiter party. That all said, when you devolve into a third-world banana republic, as we have, you can’t sit around and act all surprised when the body politic behaves as if it’s a third-world banana republic. Our politics is defined by race along with other pure demographic and trait categories. We’ve become the mirror image of apartheid-era South Africa.

  • jim_m

    “Not accepting of others. Is that what liberal means?”

    Why yes, Mr Bell. I think you have hit the nail right on the head.

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  • GarandFan

    “He says all whites are racist, that is that, and they shouldn’t be allowed to talk about what’s racist and what isn’t.”

    That’s a rather RACIST! statement Mr Bell. But then, I wasn’t expecting anything intelligent to come out of your mouth.

  • Vagabond661

    Telling me I can’t decide what is racist is like telling me I must sit in the back of the bus.

    • jim_m

      That’s just it isn’t it? The left does not want a national discussion on race. It wants racial retribution. Until Whites are sufficiently punished for the sins of people who lived 150 years ago the Blacks won’t be ‘even’. It’s more social fairness from the left.

      And the fact that Whites lead the abolitionist movement, participated in the civil rights movement and most of the Whites today have grown up in a post civil rights act world has no impact on their thirst for retribution. Our crime is our skin color and in order to make America a race neutral nation we must be punished to make up for the sins of people we never knew or met.

      • Harry Mann

        Actually, a couple of liberals, sitting in the White House, said that they were going to start a national dialogue on race. But when push came to shove, Hillary Clinton announced to the nation’s democrats that she was the better Party nominee, because some folks would simply never vote for Obama, given the fact that he is biracial. She didn’t say that she would hope that race wouldn’t play into the contest. She basically said, owing to the color of his skin, she had the best chance. My argument at the time was that Hillary was correct, there were democrats who would not vote for Obama, owing to the color of his skin, but there were republicans who would more than make up the difference. And I was correct.

    • Brucehenry

      Yes a comic making an unfunny joke is exactly like systematic legal discrimination.

      • jim_m

        Since those of us who actually talk to minorities have experienced multiple instances of this sort of attitude, Yes it really is like systematic discrimination.

        Perhaps if you knew some minorities you would be able to relate,

        It’s like my staff member who pronounced that her black studies teacher in college had told her that the GOP was the party of slavery. When I informed her that Lincoln was a Republican she just gaped at me. Racism and disinformation is rife on the left.

        • Brucehenry

          Yeah, you’ve told that story a couple of times. Is she the only black woman you know?

          “Yes it really is like systematic discrimination.” Oh you poor poor thing.

          • jim_m

            Nope. Just the most ignorant one.

          • Brucehenry

            And maybe the only example you have.

          • jim_m

            The only example of shocking ignorance. I had a very multicultural staff. People from Kenya, Ghana, Panama, Antigua, Puerto Rico, Russia, The Philippines, Hospital lab staff tends to be that way , especially in large cities. Actually, I have found the non US raise blacks to be far more intelligent that the ones that have had our public schools inflicted upon them.

          • Commander_Chico

            Black descendants of slaves make up about 13% of the U.S. population. Like just about any ethnic group, they have a full range of culture, from high to low. Do American black athletes seem less “intelligent” than white ones in locker room interviews? Not that I see.

            High to middle black American culture is a major part of what makes America unique and attractive in the world.

            The “ghetto” culture is as much of a cause of bad public schools as a result. Kids raised in disorderly houses disrupt schools. To the extent it is a result of public schools, white racism is a contributing factor to the bad public schools, see Death at an Early Age and Savage Inequalities: Children in America’s Schools,by Jonathan Kozol.

            Since the proportion of the descendants of slaves is so low, over time “black America” will be absorbed or changed by the larger white and immigrant groups surrounding them.

      • Vagabond661

        If Oprah can compare Trayvon Martin to Emmet Till, then I can make a comparison too. …except mine is more accurate.

  • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

    Surely one of the most racist statements to be publicly uttered of late.

  • Brucehenry

    You guys get that this guy is trying to be provocative, right? For, you know, ratings.

    His schtick is (or he would like it to be known as, I’ll bet) the mirror image of Limbaugh’s.

    • jim_m

      yeah, Limbaugh never ceases talking about those N*****s on his show. What an ignorant fool you are.

      Yes we know he does it for shock value. What escapes you is that you blithely accept his racist rants and call them funny. If anyone made the reciprocal speech they would be run into hiding by you and your racist lynch mob friends.

      • Brucehenry

        Actually this bit isn’t very good. I don’t think it’s the material so much as it is the strained, heavy-handed delivery. We have a local AM station here that plays stand-up comic bits 24 hours a day, and I’ve heard him do other stuff that was OK. He’s no Pryor or Murphy, and definitely no Dick Gregory.

        But no, I didn’t call this stuff funny. I said he was trying to be provocative, like Limbaugh does. Or for that matter, like Maher does. But you go ahead and read words I never wrote like usual, Jim.

        • jim_m

          What? You don’t like being called a racist and that you spur on racist hate? Too bad. Maybe it was my new comedy routine. You should support that.

          Some of these are jokes as you say.

          • Brucehenry

            I got that I was being called an “ignorant fool” and I know you think my “lynch mob friends” lol are racists, but I didn’t think I was personally being called, specifically, racist. Was I? Oh dear, what ever shall I do?

          • Vagabond661

            OK Paula Dean says n***** to her husband 30 years ago and she gets kicked off food network. We can’t have a racial discussion until past transgressions are forgiven on BOTH sides.

          • Brucehenry

            Yes that’s the only thing Paula did. Made that one remark to her husband 30 years ago.

            “What’s the big deal?” asks the uninformed white guy.

          • Vagabond661

            That is the only proof anyone has right now right? Unless you have proof somewhere you would like to tell the courts. Maybe you can help the prosecution’s case. Go for it.

          • Brucehenry

            There is a court case, but no “prosecution.” It’s a civil matter, genius. The deposition is what got Paula in trouble. There are a few more things in there besides a remark she made to her husband 30 years ago. Google it.

          • Vagabond661

            Yes and again I will repeat We can’t have a racial discussion until past transgressions are forgiven on BOTH sides. Or in this case, your side.

            I did google it. You know why she used the n-word?

            In her deposition, which was taken May 17, Deen said she used the word after a black man had held a gun to her head during a robbery at the bank where she worked at the time.

            Yeah i would use the n-word and several others if that happen to me.

            And while you are at googling, try “conflict resolution”.

          • Brucehenry

            Did you see any of the rest of the deposition? Did you know the whole case is about sex discrimination and sexual harassment by Deen and her brother, and that during discovery all kinds of allegations of racist and sexist behavior came up? Allegations that she not only doesn’t deny, she has apologized for? After getting caught, of course.

            Did you know about the fantasy “plantation wedding?” Have you seen the video in which she patronizes her long time gopher, calling him “black as that blackboard”? There’s lots more out there, you know.

            Nobody would give a shit that a sixty something white Mississippian once used the N word. It’s kind of a fucking GIVEN. It’s the pattern of behavior revealed by the lawsuit, and her answers in the deposition, that crashed her career. Headlines about “Deen Used N-Word” were just that — headlines meant to grab attention and get readers to read the rest of the story. Sheesh.

          • Vagabond661

            So what were the results of the court case?

          • Brucehenry

            I thought it was still being litigated. But in any event whoever wins the lawsuit is immaterial to the issue of whether or not Deen should be given a pass. Her sponsors, on hearing what she has said and done over the years, decided she was toxic and dumped her.

            The lawsuit wasn’t about whether or not she should keep her TV show or her endorsement contracts. It was about whether she and her brother should pay damages to the plaintiff for discrimination.

          • Vagabond661

            Ah, then they are just allegations to be proven in a court of law and not to be proven in the media or alternate media.

            I didn’t watch the paula deen show because she came off as a phony to me. and food network showcased her like Giada’s cleavage. I went thru youtube and could find nothing else she has admitted to except using the n-word that time. by the way, if you google plantation weddings you will see it is a theme used in many weddings. if you were doing a pirate wedding you would need people dressed as pirates. you are a tad too sensitve to things like that. don’t feel bad. many of your ilk are.

            You may want to check out these links too.

            http://www.wsav.com/story/21208593/earl-bubba-hiers-files-response-to-lawsuit-and-counterclaim

            http://savannahnow.com/news/2012-04-17/paula-deens-brother-responds-suit-alleges-theft#.UgKzA5L2aIc

            Whatever happens in court, happens. I don’t care who wins or loses here. I have no dog in this race. I liked Uncle Bubba’s restaurant and have visited ever time i went to Savannah.

          • Brucehenry
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          • Brucehenry

            Say hi to Mr Potshot for me.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            As amply demonstrated here by our tarbaby racism is “fur shure” not over on Wizbang.

          • Brucehenry

            And some of your jokes are funny. But not this one. Just like some of Bell’s schtick is OK. But this bit, not so much.

          • jim_m

            My point was that you are OK with leftist racial division but you really get incensed when it comes at you from any other direction. But then again the lefty racial hate isn’t generally aimed at you is it?

          • Brucehenry

            LOL, no, but some of the “righty” stuff is.

            I’m a grown man though, and can take it.

          • Brucehenry

            “Racial division.” L.O. Freaking. L.

            Y’all really hate it when these here outside agitators stir up the local coloreds, don’t you?

            The whole right wing schtick about “race baiting poverty pimps” is, when you think about it, a massive exercise in concern-trolling.

          • jim_m

            NO. It’s not a comedy routine and we are not concern trolling. We are pointing out your hypocrisy and the fact that the left does not ever want the race issue to go away and his heavily investing in making it worse.

          • jim_m

            If the left really wants a discussion on race (which they don’t. They NEVER want racism to go away as an issue), it would behoove them to rein in jackasses like Bell who only make the divide deeper.

            But the reality is that the left wants to make the divide deeper while giving lip service to fixing the problem. As usual.

          • Brucehenry

            How would you suggest “reining in” Bell or guys like him? Would that be in the same way the right “reins in” guys like Ted Nugent or similar nutjobs who regularly gab on FOX or Talk Radio?

          • jim_m

            Social disapprobation. Stop giving him his own HBO show. Why is it that the left can run Jimmy the Greek off of TV but gives racist asses like Bell ever increasing amounts of air time.

          • Brucehenry

            Jimmy The Greek was what, thirty years ago? And do you remember what he said that got him shit-canned?

            He said black athletes could jump higher and run faster because the slave masters bred them to have “bigger haunches.” I shit you not.

            It wasn’t just “the left” who ran off the Greek. Most people were pretty appalled by that one.

            EDIT: Tell it to the FOX bookers who keep having Nugent on.

          • jim_m

            Yes, but Bell’s comments are little different. You call them humor. It isn’t and never really was. I cannot believe that he does not believe it in his heart.

            [edit] The point is that both comments were ignorant and awful. But you think the left wing one is funny, basically because there is racism in your heart too.

          • Brucehenry

            And he isn’t on CBS, or even HBO. He’s being moved from the niche FX to the even MORE niche FXX. Kind of like Limbaugh’s on Clear Channel and the really kooky talk show guys are on local stations or the internet.

          • Brucehenry

            So you think that saying that many of the white guys offering opinions on the Zimmerman trial were buffoons, didn’t know what they were talking about, and would have been better off shutting the fuck up, is equivalent to saying that slavers bred blacks to have “big haunches” and that’s why they’re better athletes, on the 1-10 Racistometer?

            And, once again, I never said it was funny. Once again, I said it was meant to be provocative.

          • jim_m

            It is equally ignorant yes. You may be offended more by one man’s ignorance than another but they remain both deeply ignorant.

            And Jimmy the Greek’s depiction of slave owners as scheming eugenicists is at least as funny as Mr Bell.

          • Brucehenry

            I guess the difference is Bell, I suspect, is being deliberately provocative while the Greek thought he was just talking common sense.

          • jim_m

            As I said, I believe that Bell, like Wanda Sykes, believes every bit of what he said and if you challenged him on it he would defend it.

          • Brucehenry

            How’d Wanda Sykes get into this?

            I’m not aware of anything she’s said that you could be offended by, but most of what I’ve seen from her is hilarious.

            She was great in “The New Adventures of Old Christine.”

          • jim_m

            She’s another example of a lefty racist that you think is funny.

          • Brucehenry

            Well, I like Paula Deen’s recipes, too.

            If Wanda’s said or done something I should be shocked about, clue me in.

          • jim_m

            Go google “wanda Sykes racist and you will get a plethora of pages with her idiotic comments accusing anyone white and conservative of being racist simply because they are white and conservative and she needs no other evidence other than that .

          • Brucehenry

            I see a plethora of pages of wingnuts being butthurt about Wanda’s tasteless joke about Limbaugh at the WHCD.

          • jim_m

            And promoting the baseless lefty meme that the TEA Party is racist. The only racists at TEA Party events have been lefties with bogus signs.

          • jim_m

            The point on the Zimmerman trial is that White people should STFU and accept that they should be convicted based on their race. There is no other point to what he said other than that. It’s pure racism and advocates and supports the lynch mob mentality on the left,

          • Brucehenry

            You have interpreted his remarks in a way that I do not. Nor do many other people who aren’t paranoid and perpetually butthurt.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            Racist tarbabies…

          • LiberalNightmare

            Im pretty sure that his show was replaced. More like he was replaced … new name on the show, new black guy with funny hair as the host.

          • jim_m

            Maybe they found a funny black guy.

    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      It’s racist screed, and any who are accepting or approving of it are likewise, racists.

      • jim_m

        Or condoning it as “merely humor”.

        • Brucehenry

          What are the quotation marks for, Jim? Who are you quoting?

          • jim_m

            Your claim was that it was just “schtick”. That paraphrases to being humor. Obviously I was not quoting anyone in particular but trying to frame the phrase as representative of the attitudes of certain group of people (of which you are a member).

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            The smug “we’re not really racists” racist set?

          • Brucehenry

            Schtick roughly translates to “schpiel,” or “stuff this guy says.” It need not even BE related to comedy or comedians, although in this case I can see I guess where you made your mistake.

          • jim_m

            Please. Schtick is routinely used to refer to humor or a comedian’s routine. What a laugh that all of a sudden when it becomes inconvenient you call it something else.

          • Brucehenry

            Fair enough. Where I made MY mistake, then, in choosing that word.

          • jim_m

            No. You meant what you said. You just regret saying it.

          • Brucehenry

            You’re a hoot.

          • jim_m

            I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to visit the buffet.

          • Brucehenry

            And tip the bartenders and waitresses.

          • jim_m

            Or you can just write “No justice for Trayvon, no tip!” like your lefty friends do.

          • Brucehenry

            Many of the commenters on your one link are “calling fake” on this. But I bet it has indeed happened at least once or twice.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            Saint Skittles got more justice than he could handle…

          • Brucehenry

            What’s the Number Two definition in your link, Jim?

          • jim_m

            Less commonly used than the first one. By definition.

            Please tell us what product Mr Bell was selling? How much did it cost? I thought he was doing a stand p routine (my definition), you claim he was selling something. What is the product? Come on Bruce. You are defending your definition. Tell us what we could have purchased and gone home with. Idiot.

          • Brucehenry

            He made the comments in question in an interview, promoting (selling) his FXX TV show. Not in his routine.

            Just as I have used the term “schtick” to refer to what Limbaugh does. He sells himself and his viewpoint. In a non-political context, Dave Ramsey has a schtick he uses on the radio to sell the wares of his sponsors, and the Dave Ramsey brand.

          • jim_m

            Nice try. The purpose was a stand up routine and that is obvious. You are now just looking sad and desperate.

          • Brucehenry

            The article Warner wrote was about what the guy said in an interview. That’s where he says “white people don’t get to decide what’s racist,” or words to that effect.

          • jim_m

            So as I say below, he really does believe his racist crap. Thanks for the verification.

          • Brucehenry

            So all that hairsplittin’ was just so you could get the last word? Talk about desperate!

          • jim_m

            No. It was about being right.

          • Brucehenry

            You claim above that the left is “heavily investing” in racial divisiveness. How much, in dollars, is the left “investing,” Jim. After all, the most commonly used definition of “investing” is “Expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit.”

            Hairsplitting.

          • jim_m

            I don’t know. How much is MSNBC’s budget? How much did obama spend on his campaign? How much do Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton earn? (and Ben Jealous for that matter)

            I’d guess that is far in excess of a billion in the last few years and many millions annually on a regular basis.

          • Brucehenry

            The point is many words have more than one definition. Even Yiddish ones. Maybe ESPECIALLY Yiddish ones.

          • jim_m

            The point is that some have an obvious meaning and you chose a less obvious meaning.

          • Brucehenry

            And you chose to fixate on a choice of words when my intent was clear.

          • jim_m

            Yes to excuse and obfuscate an obviously racist sentiment spoken by a lefty. I understood your meaning exactly.

          • Brucehenry

            Again, a hoot. Good night Jim.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            And not letting the racist tarbabies racist proclivities go un-remarked and un-recorded.

  • RichFader

    Sorry, who?

  • The_Weege_99

    So, let me get this straight, KaMauMau is judging whites as racist based simply on the color of our skin?
    So, what’s the definition of racism again?

  • http://www.traveLightgame.com/ ljcarolyne

    Now it’s called Usurper Engineering – no longer can U say _______ rigging., huh?
    Well I will say what I want, when I want, if I want. How is that Muzz, as they all say what they want, and burn our flag. They can, go you know where!
    GRRRRRRRRRRRR – up their’s

  • BillClintonsShorts17

    Who the f*** is Bell? Never heard of him.

  • Harry Mann

    The fact of the matter is, Dr. Laura (radio) remarks that their is nothing wrong with using the word n—–, and yet if someone were to use the word “kike”, I am certain she would tell you that she found it personally offensive. Sarah Silverman (film) decided it would be entertaining to say n—— about 20 times in short succession in her lame production, “The Sarah Silverman Show”; Michael Richards (comedy stage) went on a notorious rant in which he described an audience member as a n—–; and, Eve Ensler (theater), thought to compare a colored woman having a bowel movement, with giving birth. Now, the fact that Jewish individuals are using film, radio, and the stage in this manner is pretty sad, pretty ironic, given the history of their people, but mainly just sad. As far as racist among whites go, they like to provoke, antagonize, harass, and race bait; they also try to reserve the right to gas light the person the are persecuting. By so doing, they try to control the frame and the individual. It’s a malicious form of bullying. There was a black man who recently attacked a few people with his fist, shouting that he hated white people. He typically played chess out of doors, near passerby. I wonder how many looks and remarks it took before he lost it; were they in the tens or dozens? And then to read comments by racist individuals stating things like, “Now you know what you are up against”. And, “They should all be sent to Africa.” Judging all by the actions of one person who lost it, most likely out of bitter frustration, owing to a lifetime of harassment. But what about when a white individual starts shooting up their school? Does anyone try to judge all white youth by the actions of such individuals? Do they look at white youth any differently, as a potential threat? Probably not.

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