Benghazi. How far will they go…

… to continue the cover up? Probably as far as they have to.

I’m not going to recount the Benghazi murders, beyond noting that the Commander-in-Chief had a fundraiser to attend in Las Vegas the morning after and needed his sleep so he couldn’t be bothered to check in on a terrorist attack at our mission at Benghazi. Heaven forbid we send help.

There are about 30 survivors of that attack who’ve been held incognito for fourteen months. They’ve not been allow to speak to the Congress. It’s rumored that they’ve been forced to sign non-disclosure statements about the attack. One thing is for sure, they owe their lives to Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty who disobeyed a stand down order and provided cover fire so that those survivors could be rescued.

Congressional oversight committees have been trying to speak to the survivors for fourteen months. They’ve been stonewalled by the State Department and the Obama administration. It looks like Sen. Lindsay Graham is going to try a new tack to gain access to them by putting a hold on ALL Obama administration nominees who need Senate approval until they get access to the survivors.

Let me note that I have almost as much disgust for Senator Graham as I do for John McCain, but on this issue he’s on the side of the angels.

The Obama administration faces a Senate hold on all of its upcoming nominees — including Fed chair nominee Janet Yellen and President Obama’s pick for Homeland Security secretary, Jeh Johnson — unless it makes Benghazi survivors available to be interviewed by appropriate committees in Congress.

A coalition of longtime advocates of a full Benghazi investigation is also demanding to see the FBI transcripts from the interviews conducted with the survivors some 48 hours after the Sept. 11, 2012, attack when they were flown to Germany.

The lack of independent access for congressional oversight nearly 14 months after the attack on the diplomatic facility is setting a chilling precedent, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said at a press conference with allies on the Hill Wednesday afternoon.

As long as Democrats control the White House we’ll never have the full story on this or a dozen other scandals, but maybe this will be a start. I hope so, but I’m not holding my breath. After all…

Wizbang Weekend Caption Contest™
The Newest Strike in Obama's War on Journalists
  • Commander_Chico

    Was just watching Wolf Blitzer, he said he heard that the survivors are about “two dozen” Clandestine Service CIA officers whose careers will be over if they have to testify.

    I’d just like one person to tell me what they think is being “covered up.”

    • jim_m

      In other words you’ve been so busy trying to write bullshit to hold up the admin’s narrative that you haven’t even bothered reading a single article or comment on this subject for over a year.

      Hell, you’re probably the only person on earth still blaming the film maker.

      • Commander_Chico

        I note you did not answer my question: what do you think is being covered up?

        • jim_m

          I’ll note that I just pointed to a year’s worth of discussions on this subject and you are only now asking what the issues are. You’re an apologist for the obama admin. You have been posing as someone nominally opposed to obama but you have acted in every way as a supporter.

          There is no need to detail the issues here. They have been discussed multiple times on this blog. You think that just because finally after over a year of your bullshit we should cater to your ideological blindness? Screw you private pyle. Go back and do some reading to see what we have been telling you for over a year.

          If you finally want to discuss the substance of what we have been saying then it’s about time but you need to go back and look it up. There is no need for anyone here to waste time on a lying ideologue who has spent over a year trying to float some bogus narrative about the film maker.

          • Commander_Chico

            OK, the government lied to cover up a covert operation to transfer arms collected from Libya to the Syrian rebels.

            How about that?

          • jim_m

            The government lied about the nature of the consulate.

            The government lied about the ability to provide help to the people there.

            The government lied about what it knew of the attack and when they knew it.

            The government lied about the video.

            The government lied about knowing that they were lying when they were lying to the public.

          • Commander_Chico

            You mean the government didn’t tell everyone “This is/was really a CIA station?” Wow, shocking.

            How did they lie about the ability to provide help? There wasn’t any within the time period.

          • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

            What time period ? the 1st hour or the 10th hour of the attack and what if the attack lasted for days or until every American was dead … nobody knew how “long” the attack would last … nobody …

          • jim_m

            Harlem Ghost makes the salient point which is that it doesn’t matter in retrospect whether or not we had anyone who could have arrived in time. What matters is that a decision was made that sending any help was not important.

            What matters is that obama decided that losing these lives was not a big deal. Losing these lives was (to use his own words) merely, “sub-optimal”

            Or are you making the claim that obama has omniscience and knew the outcome before anything happened at which point the question comes that if he could predict the outcome then why could he not have predicted the attack in the first place and planned against it? After all they had intel suggesting an attack was coming. You are a truther who claims that Bush is complicit in 9/11 because he had intel and therefore knew it was coming. obama had the same kind of intel, why not stop it?

          • Commander_Chico

            There’s already been testimony that forces were alerted for movement soon after the attack commenced. Preparations were underway, but the clock just ran out.

            They call this OBE in the military – overtaken by events.

          • Vagabond661

            Since this is now known, why not do an investigation?

          • Commander_Chico

            Because the establishment is supporting regime change in Syria so we can change the regime in Iran, too. It will mean plenty of contracts.

          • Vagabond661

            Chico writes: I’d just like one person to tell me what they think is being “covered up.”

            I think you answered your own question. But if we know all of this, why not investigate? You are not giving me a reason. You are giving me an excuse.

          • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

            How does blaming it on a video cover up the covert operation ? Logic much ?

          • Hawk_TX

            A covert operation to send arms to terrorist in Syria illegally would constitute an act of treason.

            Article 3, Section 3 “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort….”

            Supplying weapons to Al Queda in Syria would clearly be giving them aid and comfort. The administration only defense could be claiming that they were acting within their diplomatic authority. However they can’t even claim diplomatic authority since they were violating an embargo on weapons shipment to Syria.

          • Commander_Chico

            Tell it to John McCain, Lindsay Graham and the neocons.

            Are you saying those guys killed in Benghazi were traitors?

          • Hawk_TX

            No, I specifically said the administration committed treason not those who were only following orders and were betrayed and left to die. Who ever gave the order to aid the terrorist committed treason.

          • Commander_Chico

            Following orders is no longer a defense. If you follow traitorous orders, you are a traitor.

          • jim_m

            The purported CIA outpost was a separate facility from the Consulate. The people killed were at the consulate.

        • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

          who made the decisions and when did they make them … location and availablity of military assets that night … that enough for you ?

    • Jwb10001

      Have you ever heard of closed door hearings they go on all the time on Capital Hill. If you’re satisfied that everything was handled properly and no one screwed up and Obama has performed admirably fine, I think we disagree.

      • Commander_Chico

        Yeah there’s still about 50 people inside those “closed door hearings” the possibility of a leak is there.

        I note you did not answer my question: what do you think is being covered up?

        • Jwb10001

          I don’t know that’s why it’s called a cover up. I’m guessing gross incompetence, criminal negligence, perhaps illegal gun running to Syria, but those are just guesses. Why are you so satisfied with the situation after all the lies you’ve been told?

          • Commander_Chico

            I’m curious about it, but I know that bad shit happens in dangerous places. This looks like that kind of case. You can always rant and rave about how they should have had more security, but diplomats have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, too, didn’t hear much about that from the Republicans.

            “Illegal gun running.” What law is violated by a clandestine operation run by the CIA overseas? Give me a break.

            I saw some idiotic blog post today about how there were 8 commandos in the area and they should have been ordered in to rescue the consulate people from the scores of armed militiamen attacking them. Dumb.

          • Jwb10001

            You’re curious about it but not enough to see it splatter shit all over your newest crush Hillary. You’re a tool. If this happened on Bush’s watch you’d want his head on a platter, you’re getting more and more transparent with every word you type.

          • Commander_Chico

            Much worse fuck-ups happened on Bush’s watch, I don’t see you wanting his head on a platter.

          • Jwb10001

            Ha ha damn that’s a new one! Here I thought you’d pull out the Bush was worse canard you always …. oh wait…

          • Commander_Chico

            You brought up Bush, I didn’t. But since you did, there was like one “Benghazi” a week during his presidency. The most flaming foolish fuck-up to ever occupy the Oval Office.

          • Jwb10001

            Only to point out your absolute predictability. And once again you sing out your one note symphony.

          • Commander_Chico

            Fact remains, Bush’s fuck-ups killed more than a thousand times more Americans than Benghazi and no peep from you. Talk about predictable.

          • jim_m

            The people who died in Iraq and Afghanistan died serving in the military in a war zone in a military action endorsed by Congress. No one ever lied about what they were doing there (conducting a war) or why they died.

            That is different from the people who died in Benghazi where there was no war, Congress approved no action, and the people were not military serving in a war zone. Also, obama, Clinton and others lied repeatedly about what happened and why it happened.

            SO predictable that you would conflate a legal military operation to an obvious screw up by obama. Funny that you would gloss over the lie that you still believe (that it was the film maker’s fault) and that obama deliberately perpetuated that lie in order to avoid the fact that this was al qaeda terrorism almost immediately after he had declared al qaeda to be finished. Funny that you ignore that obama deliberately lied to the American public and that had he told the truth we would almost certainly be complaining about President Romney.

          • Jwb10001

            First of all the last time this came up I said I’d love to see a fair investigation of Iraq intelligence and the failures of so many to get it right, if indeed they got it wrong.

            Secondly, Iraq was an authorized military action, supported by democrats and republicans, why is it only republicans and Bush are targets for such scorn? Hillary made the most egregious statements trying to justify her vote then subsequent undermining of the Iraq action. How about a little of your phony outrage directed at the likes of her. After all she and her friends did all they could to undermine the confidence of the American people while our troops, you claim to love so much, were in harms way.

            You don’t really want an investigation because any real/fair investigation would not give you the outcome you want.

          • Vagabond661

            That’s a lot of dead diplomats. Wonder why that didn’t make the news.

          • Commander_Chico

            They were called “soldiers” “Marines” “sailors” “Airmen” along with the diplomats.

            I guess it’s not a fuck-up to you if only military dies, huh? They don’t matter.

          • Vagabond661

            Get real. Are you saying there have been no military personnel who have died under Obama? Or were you just trying to shut down the conversation by an illogical fallacy?
            Unarmed diplomats died. armed soldiers died.

            If you really care about their deaths, make it count. Make it matter smart ass. Investigate and punish ones who fucked this up and punish the assholes who enabled them to get away with it. That would be you and your ilk.

      • Retired military

        JWB
        Don’t confuse Chico with the facts. He still thinks that if you like your healthcare you can keep it. Period. Noone will be able to take it away from you.

    • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

      who made what decisions and when they made them for starters …

  • GarandFan

    Let’s see Chico, ‘what was covered up’.
    1. Hillary! refused to provide adequate security. Money problems because of those damned Republicans. Gotta buy those ‘green’ cars for the embassy in Vienna. Priorities ya know!
    2. Hillary got the 3am phone call and didn’t know what to do, so she used King Barack’s management approach – a problem is only a problem if you recognize it as a problem. Ignore it! Go home, get a good nights sleep and dream of when you can run for the Oval Office.
    3. Barack – See above. Gotta get my beauty sleep. Gotta be sharp tomorrow. Lots of folks to con and pick up some heavy cash before hitting up those liberal idiots in Hollywood. Let Jarrett come up with a cover story. She’s been so good at it in the past.

    • Commander_Chico

      Yeah, you can always have more security. U.S. embassies around the world already look like prisons, because we’re so loved. If you’re overthrowing governments and intervening in other countries, you have to get out in the field, which is dangerous.

  • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

    The GOP 2016 Presidential candidate should make this a plank in his platform … that he/she will get to the bottom of this …

    • Commander_Chico

      Yeah, I’m sure that will be a winning strategy.

      • Vagabond661

        That and Obamacare.

Optimization WordPress Plugins & Solutions by W3 EDGE