Paul Ryan increases government spending, cuts military pensions

The US government spends about $11 billion every day, Ryan’s sell out will save $7 billion. Oh, that’s seven billion over ten years.

Ryan contends lowering the cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) for military retirees under 62 will decrease the deficit by $7 billion over 10 years.

This provision was part of the Ryan/Patty Murray deal to scrap the sequester that was actually reducing government spending by a few bucks. The budget compromise passed the House by a 332-94 vote with most Republicans falling into line behind Speaker Boehner and Finance Chairman Ryan’s fiscal sell out.

13-1217 Spending IncreasesYou might wonder how a provision like this could pass the House.

These concerns over military pensions could prove problematic in getting the budget deal passed in the Senate. While the House passed it 332-94 Thursday evening with 169 Republicans voting for it–largely based on Ryan’s selling of it to the conference–these pension issues had not fully come to light by the time of the vote.

In other words, Boehner & Ryan jammed the bill through the House without giving members time to read it. We’re shocked. We also want to take a moment to thank our Representative, David Schweikert, for bucking the leadership – as he frequently does – and voting against this monstrosity.

Some are holding out hope that the bill won’t get through the Senate, Dick Durbin said on Sunday they didn’t have the votes. But never fear.

“Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, announced his support for the measure on Monday, appearing to give it the 60 votes it would need to overcome a filibuster threat and bring it to a final vote, which would need only a majority,” the Times’ Jonathan Weisman wrote Monday. “Mr. Hatch joined Senators John McCain and Jeff Flake of Arizona, Richard M. Burr of North Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine, and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, all Republicans who have said they will vote to cut off debate.”

According to the Times, Hatch said he would support it even though he did not agree with the details of the plan.

We’re ashamed of our Arizona Senators. John McCain is a senile, old, reprobate who believes in nothing but publicity and he’s very successfully co-opted Jeff Flake in his first year in the Senate.

Orrin Hatch is a two-faced back-stabber. Remember just a year ago when he was making nice-nice with the Tea Party and conservatives in general so he could get past a primary battle? Well, he’s back to his true colors, voting with the Washington establishment “even though he did not agree with the details of the plan”.

We used to be a supporter of term limits, we long ago gave up on that. These days we support allowing House Members three terms and Senators two and at the end of their service throwing them off the top of the Capitol Dome head first onto the Capitol steps and leaving their bodies there for the vultures, at least until the new Congress is seated.

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Posted by on December 17, 2013.
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Michael Becker is a long time activist and a businessman. He's been involved in the pro-life movement since 1976 and has been counseling addicts and ministering to prison inmates since 1980. Becker is a Curmudgeon. He has decades of experience as an operations executive in turnaround situations and in mortgage banking. He blogs regularly at The Right Curmudgeon, The Minority Report, Wizbang, Unified Patriots and Joe for America. He lives in Phoenix and is almost always armed.

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  • Jwb10001

    Why should Chico get cost of living increases, most of us in the private sector if we have a retirement at all it’s fixed.

    • Commander_Chico

      Chico ain’t getting anything yet, and this won’t affect him much, because he only starts getting paid at age 60 as a reservist, anyways. Plus, he’s doing OK in the private sector.

      What this is screwing over is the 45 year old retired E-7 or E-8 from the infantry or special operations who’s been rode hard and put away wet the last ten years. He might be too broke down to get another job to make up the difference. And because of this, he’ll be hurting, poor and desperate when he’s 60.

      Fuck you, that pussy Ryan and these other assholes. They could raise marginal tax rates and close some loopholes for hedge fund managers, but they’d rather take it out on vets.

      Kipling said it … .

      For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck ‘im out, the brute!”

      But it’s “Saviour of ‘is country” when the guns begin to shoot;

      An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;

      An’ Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool – you bet that Tommy sees!

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        Says the soi disant veteran who could muster no outrage when 0bama ceased paying death benefits to the survivors of our servicemen who died under his command.

        • Commander_Chico

          Wash’t that part of Cruz’s government shutdown? Did anyone end up not getting death benefits?

          I’ll answer that: no.

          This Ryan deal is a long-term fuckover for retired military in law, not a stunt of a few days.

          Can you say something cogent, relevant and beyond your narrow partisanship, and without your trite and pretentious “soi disant,” for once?

          At least stand with those who served like you, but beyond their minimum obligation for a free education.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            It was part of the “limited” Government shutdown.

            Obama claimed he had no discretion to make death benefit payments under those circumstances. That was another of his lies. You could not be bothered to object to that.

            And Tommy don’t know you from Adam.

          • Commander_Chico

            Whatever, it lasted about one day. I have no idea whether Obama had discretion or not, I’m not a lawyer.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            You’re not much of anything.

          • Commander_Chico

            That’s not what the women say.

            Anyways, I grow weary. It’s late here, and I’m invited to the Emir’s tent tomorrow for national day.

          • jim_m

            More self exalting lies.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            No camel jockeys were available for “entertainment,” so the soi disant cognoscenti got the “position.”

          • Retired military

            Do they make you take off your suicide vest before going in?

            Hey while you are at it why not get the emir to provide you some answers which you cant seem to come up with yourself.

            “As I said before, try answering what people say, and not try to put words in others’ mouths, debate goes better” – Chico, Famed Wizbangblog poster

            How about practising what you preach Chico.

            1 Oprah,the Lamestream media, Reid, Pelosi, and other major dems have called people racist simply because they oppose Obama’s
            policies. Yet when they oppose those same policies when espoused by Bill, Hillary. Reid, Pelos, Gore, Kerry, etc etc they weren’t considered racist then by Oprah, etc etc (I don’t know isn’t good enough)

            2. People were called racist anarchist terrorists when they tried to delay Obamacare yet Al Franken who did the same thing wasn’t called Racist. Do you feel that it is because he is a democrat and the people doing the call just playing the race card because that is all they have?

            3. People were called racist anarchist terrorist when they called for the delay of all or part of Obamacare and Obama who is unconstitutionally doing the same thing is not called a racist anarchist terrorist. Do you feel that it is because he is a democrat and the people doing the calling are just playing the race card because that is all they have?

          • jim_m

            Riiiight. It’s National Day in Qatar tomorrow and you expect us to believe that you are going to be the guest of the Emir of Qatar in the morning when you are up after 2AM commenting on this blog.

            What a bunch of crap. Like I said, your lies become less believable by the minute.

          • Commander_Chico

            Well, the Emir has several tents open to the public, so it’s not that big of a deal.

          • jim_m

            Yep. As expected, when called on the lie Chico runs away. Don’t forget to post a pic of yourself with the Emir. I’m sure he pals around with the catering staff.

          • Jwb10001

            I’m having tea with the queen myself.

          • jim_m

            He’s a parasite. That’s something.

          • Commander_Chico

            I am sure I pay more taxes than you do. Probably as much taxes as your gross income, if I added it all up, income and property taxes.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            Show your income tax returns for the last five years.

          • Commander_Chico

            You first.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            I made no claims as to taxes paid.

          • Retired military

            Rodney Rodney
            You know that Chico will never carry out his part of a conversation when he knows he is wrong.

          • jim_m

            yeah, like you pay over 6 figures in taxes. Maybe over your whole lifetime. Your lies are becoming less believable by the minute. Once you exalted yourself as knowing as much as the joint chiefs and now we find out you’re just a reservist. Keep up the lies, maybe even you will start to believe them.

          • Jwb10001

            I paid 10 gazzillion dollars in taxes last year top that! I’m in the 400% tax bracket and my IQ is 300. First liars never stand a chance……

          • Retired military

            Funny Chico I seem to remember that there was a dem who worked on the budget with Ryan. Also Harry Reid has to bring it up to vote in the Senate which is something that he is loath to do on so many things passed in the House the past few years (like numerous health plans which the republicans had).

            But you don’t seem to blame the dem that worked with Ryan on the budget.

            Not suprising since you are so single minded on things.

            Things like umm debate.

            “As I said before, try answering what people say, and not try to put words in others’ mouths, debate goes better” – Chico, Famed Wizbangblog poster

            How about practising what you preach Chico.

            1 Oprah,the Lamestream media, Reid, Pelosi, and other major dems have called people racist simply because they oppose Obama’s
            policies. Yet when they oppose those same policies when espoused by Bill, Hillary. Reid, Pelos, Gore, Kerry, etc etc they weren’t considered racist then by Oprah, etc etc (I don’t know isn’t good enough)

            2. People were called racist anarchist terrorists when they tried to delay Obamacare yet Al Franken who did the same thing wasn’t called Racist. Do you feel that it is because he is a democrat and the people doing the call just playing the race card because that is all they have?

            3. People were called racist anarchist terrorist when they called for the delay of all or part of Obamacare and Obama who is unconstitutionally doing the same thing is not called a racist anarchist terrorist. Do you feel that it is because he is a democrat and the people doing the calling are just playing the race card because that is all they have?

      • Retired military

        Chico finally admitted he was in the reserves.

        But he still hasn’t followed through on all his big talk,

        “As I said before, try answering what people say, and not try to put words in others’ mouths, debate goes better” – Chico, Famed Wizbangblog poster

        How about practising what you preach Chico.

        1 Oprah,the Lamestream media, Reid, Pelosi, and other major dems have called people racist simply because they oppose Obama’s
        policies. Yet when they oppose those same policies when espoused by Bill, Hillary. Reid, Pelos, Gore, Kerry, etc etc they weren’t considered racist then by Oprah, etc etc (I don’t know isn’t good enough)

        2. People were called racist anarchist terrorists when they tried to delay Obamacare yet Al Franken who did the same thing wasn’t called Racist. Do you feel that it is because he is a democrat and the people doing the call just playing the race card because that is all they have?

        3. People were called racist anarchist terrorist when they called for the delay of all or part of Obamacare and Obama who is unconstitutionally doing the same thing is not called a racist anarchist terrorist. Do you feel that it is because he is a democrat and the people doing the calling are just playing the race card because that is all they have?

        • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

          I still haven’t seen his DD-214, nor is any such on record under the name he uses here.

        • Commander_Chico

          Chico did some years active, some years reserve, for a total of about 25 years.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            There is no DD-214 recorded for “Commander_Chico.”

          • Commander_Chico

            Really? Keep looking. Did you look under “Chico Cognoscente?”

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            Even checked under shit-head_Chico…

      • jim_m

        Wow. Threaten Chico’s bene’s and he gets all upset. If you actually cared about serving your country you would still have something that you would value, but instead all you have is the grasping desire to have what the government can no longer afford to give you. Tough luck parasite. I will enjoy listening to you whine.

        I really hope that example you gave is from your own experience. Really I do.

        • Retired military

          Actually he wants what the govt cant afford to give him.

          • jim_m

            True. He has long advocated cutting anything but his benefits. That’s why I said that if he had served because he loved the US he would still have something, something that no one and nothing could take away from him, but now that his benefits are being cut he is losing the only thing he retains from his service.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            This particular piece of karma is not acceptable due to the impact on those who actually served and did so honorably.

          • jim_m

            If we don’t have the money then we don’t have the money. And while I would rather see funding cut for the NEA, NEH and CPB, I will gladly take the entertainment of seeing Chico discomfited over the loss of a few dollars.

          • Retired military

            Just remember John Kerry just promised North Vietnam $17 million to help combat the effects of global warming. Speaking of global warming there is the chief global warming expert in the EPA who didn’t show up for work much over the past 6+ months, taking first class flights to Europe, 5 star hotel rooms, and committing fraud to the tune of over $1 million .

          • jim_m

            I agree, there are plenty of places to cut the budget. Spending anything to do with AGW is a boondoggle. But then this admin has always prioritized ideology over the welfare of the republic and its people.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            We shall have to agree to disagree. While I would have no objection to seeing our soi disant cognoscenti beggared, I’m not willing to see a single bona fide retireee nor disabled veteran impacted. They’ve EARNED what was promised them.

          • jim_m

            I don’t disagree with you. I said that there are better places to cut spending and I would have advocated that veterans spending be cut only after such sources are exhausted.

            And yet since we are going to see the spending for veterans cut anyway, I will take no end of pleasure in seeing Chico get all bent about it.

          • Retired military

            Chico did serve. I don’t know how honorably but until proven otherwise I will take it as being honorable as in service to the country.
            I don’t believe Chico has much honor in him based on his current actions but that can be true and coexist with the above statement as well.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            He has presented no proof. He’s a soi disant veteran.

          • Retired military

            What proof have I presented that I served honorably? I am far from a Chico supporter as you know.

          • jim_m

            Agreed. He did something in the military (most likely Navy Reserves) and probably got away with a honorable discharge. He just didn’t have all the connections he claims to have had and he’s been honest enough to admit that he did it for no reason other than the benefits.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            You don’t hang your hat on the claim.

        • Commander_Chico

          My example? You would want a 45 year old retired infantryman or SEAL who fought extremely hard the last ten years to lose benefits? I’m not a 45 year old retired infantryman – that’s been a tough gig, being a squad leader, platoon sergeant, first sergeant for units deploying again and again to Iraq and Afghanistan.

          I said this barely affects me – I would only have my cost-of-living raise reduced from age 60 to 62.

          This would seriously affect retired active duty. More like RM, if he is much under 62. Those retiring now in their 40s (or even 37) would take a big hit over the years.

          • jim_m

            Obviously, if you actually attained the rank of Commander, you would not be an infantryman. You’re apparently an Navy reservist with an enormous ego.

          • Retired military

            Yes I would take a hit for a few years (8 or so since this kicks in as I understand it in a few years). I wouldn’t mind so much if there wasn’t so much waste that could be cut on things like Global warming, Obama’s clean energy friends, Obama bailing out his union buddies, etc etc …………………………..etc. (Obama is wasting lots of money)

  • Jwb10001

    Why should Chico get cost of living increases, most of us in the private sector if we have a retirement at all it’s fixed.

  • Lawrence Westlake

    The headline of this screed is the funniest part, in the same sense that slapstick is funny. Paul Ryan is a Congress of one? The other fully-retarded component of this post is that it actually confuses a reduction in COLA with a “cut” in spending. It’s the flip side of the same mistake that leftists always make. How does reducing the growth rate of spending to a lower growth rate of spending constitute a “cut” in spending? Obviously military pensions aren’t being “cut.” And obviously if and when inflation kicks back into gear then Congress simply will reverse this decision and increase the COLA. This all is quite sophomoric, but in Internet/talk radio circles it’s tantamount to quantum physics. A function of horrible demographics. On the Internet much if not most of the audience and the authors wouldn’t know COLA from Coca-Cola. Then there’s the other obvious elephant in the room: given the realities of military disability benefits, private and other public sector pensions for those who continue working after their military retirements, Social Security, SSDI, SSI, Tricare, Medicare, Medicaid, etc., why shouldn’t COLA for the military like everything else be subject to growth rate reductions? Lastly, what takes this sort of nonsense from the absurd to the sublime is that so many “true conservatives” of the Internet don’t actually participate in elections. They stay home and don’t vote. People like Obama, Reid, McCaskill, Coons, et al. get elected. Then in the next breath, however, the non-voting “true conservatives” are the very first queued up in line reflexively to complain about our politics, without being able even to grasp the obvious ironies.