Liberal, lesbian Camile Paglia approves of Phil Robertson

Camile Paglia is a self-described libertarian, but her views on virtually every issue toe the line with the Democratic National Committee. She’s a liberal, she’s a university professor, and she’s a lesbian who was “out” before it was cool to be a lesbian.

She can also put two rational thoughts together on the same day.

She was recently on Laura Ingraham’s show and Laura asked her about Duck Dynasty and Phil Robertson.

Here’s the text of her comment.

“I speak with authority here because I was openly gay before the ‘Stonewall Rebellion,’ when it cost you something to be so,” she said. “And I personally feel as a libertarian that people have the right to free thought and free speech. In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic as they have the right to support homosexuality — as I 100 percent do. If people are basing their views against gays on the Bible, again they have a right to religious freedom there … to express yourself in a magazine in an interview -– this is the level of punitive PC, utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist, OK, that my liberal colleagues in the Democratic party and on college campuses have supported and promoted over the last several decades. It’s the whole legacy of the free speech 1960′s that have been lost by my own party.”

We have only one small quibble with Ms. Paglia, “…people have the right to be homophobic…”

We happen to agree with Phil and we can say for a certainty that we are not “afraid” of homosexuals. We don’t speak for Phil, but we doubt he is either. If you haven’t guessed, The Curmudgeon is pretty tough to offend, but we do find the use of “homophobia” to be an offensive term used to refer to people who oppose a homosexual lifestyle on moral grounds.

We are willing to give Ms. Paglia a pass on that though given that she recognizes, and is willing to spell it out in very simple terms, that Democrats are “utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist” and have been promoting this claptrap for the last five decades.

If you think that Camile is outspoken about Duck Dynasty and Phil Robertson, take three minutes and listen to her deconstruct Barack Obama and ObamaCare. She’s certainly coming from a hard left position to attack The Imperial President and his policies, but the fun part is that she’s not afraid to take him on. She obviously doesn’t give a rip about being called a racist.

Thanks Camile, it was fun.


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Michael Becker is a long time activist and a businessman. He's been involved in the pro-life movement since 1976 and has been counseling addicts and ministering to prison inmates since 1980. Becker is a Curmudgeon. He has decades of experience as an operations executive in turnaround situations and in mortgage banking. He blogs regularly at The Right Curmudgeon, The Minority Report, Wizbang, Unified Patriots and Joe for America. He lives in Phoenix and is almost always armed.

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  • Hank_M

    “this is the level of punitive PC, utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist, OK, that my liberal colleagues in the Democratic party and on college campuses have supported and promoted over the last several decades. It’s the whole legacy of the free speech 1960′s that have been lost by my own party.”

    She is absolutely correct about this.
    So who’s going to label her as homophobic?

    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      Never thought I’d agree with Paglia.

      • Hank_M

        Agreed. You should see what Paglia said about modern media. She refered to them as preening bullies, cackling witches, twisted cynics and pompous windbags.” And goes further, this from 2009.

        “The vicious double standard is pretty obvious. Only the tabloids, for example, ran the photos of a piss-drunk Chelsea Clinton, panties exposed, falling into her car outside London clubs a few years ago. If Chelsea had been the scion of Republican bigwigs, those tacky scenes would have been trumpeted from pillar to
        post in the U.S…….

  • jim_m

    Paglia shows us the difference between someone who fights for principles and someone who fights for power. Alas that 99.999% of the left is the latter.

  • Brucehenry
    • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

      You deserve, and get, less respect on Wizbang than Camille Paglia.

      Ha ha!

      • Brucehenry

        Good job.

        • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

          I can’t begin to tell you how welcome you are to it.

    • jim_m

      She did not say that others could not disagree with her. It is a common misconception amongst the left that disagreement means that the other person is attempting to silence you.

      And because she disagrees with the fascist mainstream left does not mean that she has sold out.

      Like all leftists the measure of first resort is to defame the person you disagree with. Just like leftists make disgusting ad hom attacks on blacks who espouse a conservative point of view calling them Uncle Toms, race traitors and House N#####s, Bruce is now engaging in calling Paglia names for the purpose of discrediting her without having to address the substance of her remarks.

      When you stop being a fascist and actually address her remarks we will give you a measure of credence, but not until then.

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        Just another aspect of progtard projection.

      • Brucehenry

        Fine. Maybe she didn’t “sell out.” But she stopped being a “liberal” years ago.

        Not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course. But it’s amusing to see conservatives latch onto someone like Paglia and shout “LOOK! Even the liberal _________ says liberals suck on this issue!”

        • jim_m

          Yes, she is truly liberal in the classic sense which makes her an enemy of the state in the eyes of today’s left.

          Indeed, classical liberalism can only be found on the right as you say.

          • Brucehenry

            Yes it’s true that some modern conservatives would have been considered liberal in the Eighteenth Century.

          • jim_m

            And virtually none on the left.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            Some few of the generation did indeed grow wise while growing old, not that you’d be able to tell that from our progtard contingent.

        • jim_m

          Say what you want about her she is dead on correct about obamacare, obama’s military policies (from a left view point) and about his setting back race relations by a good 40 years. As she said, obama is the most racial divisive President we have had in a long time, possibly ever (for the pre civil war Presidents had no need to be racially divisive).

          • Brucehenry

            Shorter Jim: “Dead on correct” = “spouts the exact same FOX talking points I want to hear.”

          • Brucehenry

            One actual liberal’s take on Robertson:

            http://snarkypenguin.wordpress.com/2013/12/19/so-duck-dynasty/

          • jim_m

            I tracked with that right up to paragraph #3 when the author claimed that if people were offended that Robertson was morally obligated to apologize. I disagree with this. It appears to be more idiotic lefty, “people have a right to not be offended”, nonsense.

            People have a right to be offended. Robertson has a right to be offensive. Get over yourselves and grow up.

          • Brucehenry

            My point was that it was more of the actual liberal viewpoint than Paglia’s, which is basically a regurgitation of every FOX butthurt talking point of the last 5 years.

    • jim_m

      I must say Bruce, I don’t think that anyone (even Chico) has ever posted a link where the comment thread contained discussion about how good the article was to masturbate to. You must frequent that blog often I take it.

      • Brucehenry

        LOL does it? It IS a Wonkette subsidiary.

  • Vagabond661

    Not homo-phobic. Homo-disgusted. Many things disgust me. French kissing on TV. People who put ketchup on hot dogs. Untrimmed nose hair. The list goes on but like Phil Robertson inserting anything in another man’s anus grosses me out.

    • Brucehenry

      So trim your nose hair, eat your hot dogs with mustard, chili, and onions as God intended, watch only Sesame Street on TV, and don’t insert anything in another man’s anus. What’s your point?

      • Vagabond661

        My point is I do not have an abnormal, irrational fear of homosexuals. Hence phobic does not apply.

        My dad has untrimmed nose hair, my wife puts ketchup on hot dogs. I still love them. I am just disgusted with the thought or sight of it.

        And another thing. They don’t hate me because I don’t like it.

        • Brucehenry

          A “bibliophile” doesn’t actually “love” books in the sense he wants to marry one. “Beatlemania” was not a phenomenon in which people actually went clinically insane over John, Paul, George, and Ringo. And similarly, despite the Greek root of the suffix, phobia does not have to specifically mean, literally, “an irrational fear of homosexuals.” It is a modern term that defines a fear AND/OR loathing of homosexuals and homosexuality.

          Just as a “xenophobic” individual doesn’t necessarily LITERALLY fear Mexicans or Asians, for example. He may hate them and discriminate against them, but he has no physical fear of individual Mexicans or Asians.

          See how that works? The English language is nuanced and versatile.

          • Vagabond661

            From the reaction to Phil’s comments, I’d say the fear and loathing comes from the homosexuals.

          • Brucehenry

            Really? Because most of the comments I’ve seen from the liberal side of the blogosphere have been along the lines of “Who cares? He has a right to be a bigot if he wants…Who watches that show anyway?”

            The butthurt has come, as usual, from those claiming hilariously that he is being “persecuted for his faith.”

          • Vagabond661

            Was using the term “butthurt” meant to be funny? Cause I chuckled.

            I suppose if I googled Phil Robertson and homosexual, I could come up with scores of stories on how the left is frothing at the mouth ovr his comments. Wanna try?

          • Brucehenry

            Oh I’m sure you could, the internet is a big place. But I’m just relating what I’ve seen as one who regularly (daily) peruses several liberal sites. I’ve even posted a link or two here.

            http://snarkypenguin.wordpress.com/2013/12/19/so-duck-dynasty/

            http://happynicetimepeople.com/duck-dynasty-new-white-santa-derp-round/

            See, mostly they’re just making fun of the Oppressed Christian ™ butthurt that is more fun than the supposedly outrageous remarks that (SHOCKER!) a 71 year old white guy raised in rural Louisiana vomited up in a gotcha interview.

            Here’s another, from a moderate conservative, I’ve already posted:

            http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/duck-dynasty-free-speech-and-the-culture-of-perpetual-outrage/

          • Vagabond661

            What is your point? You got a bumper crop of cherries? Congrats.

          • Brucehenry

            Stated my point. Twice, at least.

          • Vagabond661

            Cool. Not homophobic. The left is redneckphobic. got it.

          • Brucehenry

            Yes, in the more expansive sense of the term “phobic” that I have been talking about. Glad to be of service.

          • Vagabond661

            So let’s redefine phobia while we are redefining marriage while we are rewriting the Constitution. I reject this notions. Got it?

          • Brucehenry

            What is the definition of “hydrophobia” genius?

            Literally it’s “fear of water.” However, it’s more common to use it as a synonym for “rabies.” See how the language, and that suffix, can be used to express a variety of ideas?

            You can “reject this notions” until the cows come home but you might not get the point of the conversations that are being had all around you if you do.

            Until someone comes up with another widely accepted term for the discrimination against, loathing of, and yes, fear (admitted to or not) of homosexuals and homosexuality this one will probably have to do. If you refuse to accept the terms that’s up to you of course.

            You remind me of my crotchety old grandfather who refused to accept Daylight Savings Time. Asked what time is it, his reply would be, “Well, THEY say it’s nine o’clock, but it’s REALLY eight.”

          • Vagabond661

            Then we need to coin several more phobias. Heterophobia, Christophobia, Oldwhiteguyyophobia (geezerophobia?)…I’m sure there are others. Any suggestions?

          • Brucehenry

            No but those would all be fine with me. When they gain the wide acceptance that the word “homophobia” enjoys let me know and I’ll use them too. After all, what kind of a willful, stubborn jackass would I be if I didn’t?

          • Vagabond661

            A lot of my responses are tongue-in-cheek (omg! did I upset the gay pedophiles again?), however we, the silent majority, don’t control the media.

            You know as well as I the chances of those terms being picked up is as slim as the media widely reporting that an armed HS guard stopped the Arapaho shooter.

            Sadly, politics is involved in what is reported. So the only recourse we have is with our wallets. A&E will either drop Duck Dynasty and it will be immediately snapped up by another network or they will come out with another statement saying they have decided that freedom of speech should not be impaired and keep the show. Either way A&E will be the only people suffering financially.

            The same happened with Chik-fil-a last year. I still see Chik-fil-a stores. The parking lot of the one here in our town is full…except on Sundays of course.

            I do not fear homosexuals. Why would anyone fear someone for that lifestyle? Loathe is a strong word too. Like I said, it grosses me out. And by the way, Ellen would agree that a women’s vagina is more desirable than a man’s anus.

          • Brucehenry

            The self-delusion of Tea Party conservatives who characterize themselves as “the Silent Majority” always slays me, but whatever.

            As ackwired notes below, this will probably blow over and may have been a stunt and both A&E and Duck Dynasty will benefit financially from this whole thing.

            I myself could never bring myself to boycott Chick-fil-a because it is the best fast food chain in the country, in both food quality and service. Clean as a whistle too, so if Cathy wants to give some small portion of my 8 bucks to anti-marriage equality groups that’s something I’ll just have to live with, lol.

            I thought your argument was about the word “homophobia.” As demonstrated, the word means more nowadays than the Greek roots of the word would suggest. I find hilarious the oft-used objection, “I ain’t no homophobe! I ain’t a-skeered!” Again, as used these days, the word as a whole is more than the sum of its parts.

          • Vagabond661

            homophobe: : a person who hates or is afraid of homosexuals or treats them badly

            http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobe

            Yeah, I ain’t one of those.

          • Brucehenry

            Who said you were? I thought your argument was that the word itself was being used improperly. It’s not.

            Although your apparent inability to type the word “gay” without also typing the word “pedophile” would suggest at least a leeetle bit of an ignorance/ tolerance issue, and at least a modicum of fear. Just sayin’.

          • Vagabond661

            You can be a pedophile without being gay. I was merely pointing out for “butthurt” to apply it would have to be a gay pedophile.

            Ignorance ball in yer court.

          • Brucehenry

            I was just messin’ with ya anyway.

          • Vagabond661

            No harm. No foul.

          • Brucehenry

            BTW I see that you admit that one can be a pedophile without being gay. Do you also concede that one can be gay without being a pedophile? And is your repeated juxtaposition of the two words a deliberate attempt to stoke a certain discomfort?

          • Vagabond661

            I was trying to be accurate. You drew the wrong conclusion for whatever reason.

          • Brucehenry

            Well, is it accurate to say that one can be gay without being a pedophile? Don’t try to be slippery — a simple yes or no will suffice.

          • Vagabond661

            Of course. Or yes to appease the slipperyphobes. Just as someone who is a pedophile can also be gay, which is proven by NAMBLA.

          • Brucehenry

            You have foiled my gotcha, sir! I demand satisfaction.

          • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

            so you agree that one can disagree with the gay lifestyle and not be homophobic then … cool …

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            It usually is.

          • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

            Robertson did not treat gays badly … nor is he afraid of them …

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            Build your barricade and stand to it. I promise I shan’t miss you.

          • Brucehenry

            I have no idea what you are talking about.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            The already coined hoplophobia…

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Bruce, did you learn a new word, “butthurt”? I can’t decide whether you now bring to mind super-cool pajama boy or some stereotypical prog woman, like Rachel Maddow.

          • Brucehenry

            No the term has been in use for some time, it’s just that it is useful when discussing the Persecution Of Christians By The Left that many on the right are always whining about.

            BTW I haven’t checked out this Pajama Boy character but I’ll do that soon. I do like Maddow, though…

          • Vagabond661

            It would seem the term butthurt would be offensive to gay pedophiles. Bruce should apologize.

          • Brucehenry

            Looked into Pajama Boy. Another yawner of a tempest in a teapot.

          • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

            he got fired … seems like oppression to me …

          • Vagabond661

            Depends on what the meaning of “is” is? Yeah I do know how the liberals like to twist things to mean what they want. Take the Constitution for example…

          • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

            no, phobia has a meaning … and you can discriminate against gays without fearing them you idiot …

          • Brucehenry

            A day late and a dollar short, Ghost arrives at the party with a couple of lame potshots.

            Did you even READ the conversation Vag661 and I were having— yesterday?

            As for oppression, did you whine about oppression when Bill Maher’s show “Politically Incorrect,” was canceled back in 2001? How about when Baldwin or Bashir lost their gigs at MSNBC? Was that oppression?

            To paraphrase a certain phantom oppression has a meaning…and you can get fired for saying offensive shit without being oppressed you idiot.

  • ackwired

    So left vs. right does not define the world.
    By the way, I would like to nominate A&E for the Most Brilliant Marketing Move of 2013. Their suspension of Phil Robertson did not cost them a cent, and it has generated more publicity for their show than if they had spent $1 billion in advertising. After the din dies down they can simply “give in” to the anti-gays and bring him back to resume filming. Meanwhile a whole new audience has checked out the show to see what all of the controversy is about. Brilliant!