#BENGHAZI Closed Door Hearing Report: Multiple Stand Down Orders

Reports have surfaced out of a closed-door session that multiple stand down orders were given the night of the attack on the mission in Benghazi. Testimony from eight men have given testimony to the House Intelligence committee that points to stand down orders having been given in more than one instance.

“The whole issue about stand down orders is not an issue,” said Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., who sits on the House Intelligence Committee. “There clearly were stand down orders given to people not only in Benghazi but also in Tripoli and the State Department’s counterterrorism team.” – FOX

So requests for help were made and they were denied. Not once, but multiple times? The pleading and frantic calls from our people that night were rejected. It seems this topic has now come full circle.  Cue Susan Rice to spin it again, this time on 60 Minutes. Reminder – 60 Minutes questionably botched their Benghazi report last month. President Obama has referred to Benghazi as a ‘phony scandal’ and as ‘sloppiness’. In her interview with Leslie Stahl this past Sunday, Susan Rice didn’t want to be bothered with “a false controversy”.

“I don’t have time to think about a false controversy,” Rice said. “In the midst of all of the swirl about things like talking points, the administration has been working very, very hard across the globe to review our security of our embassies and our facilities. That’s what we ought to be focused on.” – The Blaze

Video clip of the interview via Gateway Pundit:

 

Flashback: Susan Rice perpetrates a false controversy on five separate morning talk shows by blaming a YouTube video.  About nine months later, the White House Press Secretary dodges answering questions about stand down orders. Carney refers reporters to the ARB instead of answering the question posed:

Other Benghazi Updates

Sharyl Attkisson still has not received anything on Benghazi under her FOIA request.

White House still hasn’t authorized release of Benghazi-night White House photos which we requested a year ago.

— Sharyl Attkisson (@SharylAttkisson) December 4, 2013

 

New photos of the Benghazi mission after the attack were released that showed more detail into the devastation wrought on the compound that night. Still no situation room photo op, however. Judicial Watch had submitted a FOIA in December and February but were only given seven photos this past June. The Washington Times followed up and and reported that after they contacted the State Department, a “treasure trove” of photos was released:

But this week, after weeks of inquiries by The Times about photos it received, the State Department released a trove of photographs showing buildings and vehicles ablaze during the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attack that killed U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans. Other photos show ransacked offices, burned-out cars and Arabic graffiti scrawled on walls.

Further down, emphasis added:

The new photos reveal a level of total devastation thoroughly belying Obama’s original cover story that the carnage was perpetrated by a bunch of random malcontents upset over an unpleasant video,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said Wednesday on the group’s website. “The fact that we’ve had to wait nearly a year and file a federal lawsuit for basic documentary material of the attack shows that this administration is still in cover-up mode. And now the Obama administration brings the Benghazi stonewall to a whole new level by withholding video of the attack using frivolous arguments such as ‘privacy.’”

Wait…There is video of the attack?

A teacher working in a school in Benghazi was shot and killed.  Just this week, 13 are dead after a terrorist attack on a Benghazi military facility. No group has claimed responsibility for either set of killings.

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  • LiberalNightmare

    If they admit that they let those soldiers die in order to win an election …

    It wont work the next time.

    • Commander_Chico

      No soldiers died in Benghazi. Soldiers died in Iraq to win an election. Thousands.

      • jim_m

        Wrong on both counts. Iraq was too soon and too unpopular to be done for winning an election. And in Benghazi the soldiers were allowed to die because to admit to a terrorist incident was too risky so the admin covered it up, blamed a video (which you still believe is the truth since you have never yet repudiated that lie) and have continued to cover up what happened that night.

        • Commander_Chico

          They were not soldiers, see above.

          • LiberalNightmare

            So the best you can do is argue the semantics?

            If that’s all you have, why even bother?

          • Commander_Chico

            Words have meanings.

            If you don’t know the difference between a 19 year old Army PFC in Afghanistan who can’t quit and is not getting paid much and those who died in Benghazi, I can’t help you. Ig’nrance!

          • jim_m

            Yes, idiot, words have meanings. And your words mean that you don’t give a rat’s ass about American lives, you only care if they wear a freaking uniform.

            As far as you are concerned you don’t care how many Americans die as long as your benefits keep coming and as long as there is no risk to military personnel.

            Not surprising seeing as how you never joined up to defend our nation and only joined to get paid. Everything for you is a financial calculation. Human lives have no meaning. American lives have no meaning.

          • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

            Who can’t quit ? what world do you live in … of course he can quit … happens all the time … idiot …

          • Hawk_TX

            From Dictionary.com:

            soldier [sohl-jer] ,noun

            1.a person who serves in an army; a person engaged in military service.
            2.an enlisted man or woman, as distinguished from a commissioned officer: the soldiers’ mess and the officers’ mess.
            3.a person of military skill or experience: George Washington was a great soldier.
            4.a person who contends or serves in any cause: a soldier of the Lord.

            Clearly Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods were no longer enaged in military service. But as former navy seals they were both persons of military skill or experience. As contractors for the State Department Diplomatic Security they were both serving in the cause of providing security to the embassy in Benghazi.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            That’s more than he usually has…

          • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

            naw … former Seals employed by the CIA not soliders …

          • 914

            Beating a dead horse does not make it breathe.

          • Liberallunitic

            You are right Obama let civilians die, does that make you feel better libtard?

          • Commander_Chico

            I have seen no evidence that there was an adequate force able to execute an adequate plan to save these men within the very few hours that the Benghazi incident took place.

            Giving stand-down orders may have been the right choice.

            You don’t throw a squad of guys with no plan up against hundreds of militiamen armed with heavy caliber automatic weapons and rockets.

            It’s a tragedy, but these guys were at the tip of the diplomatic/intelligence spear and were fully aware of the risks.

            It seems a lot of this “Benghazi” stuff amounts to:

            But, but — Obama didn’t order a suicide mission for five guys to rescue four guys, which we would have called an outrageous order for a suicide mission after the five guys were also killed!!!

      • LiberalNightmare

        From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack

        Four Americans died in the attack: Ambassador Stevens, Information Officer Sean Smith,[90] and two embassy security personnel, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods,[91][92] both former Navy SEALs.[93][94] Stevens is the first U.S. ambassador killed in an attack since Adolph Dubs was killed in 1979.[95] Senior intelligence officials later acknowledged that Woods and Doherty were contracted by the Central Intelligence Agency, not the State Department as previously identified,[96] and were part of a Global Response Staff (GRS), a team that provides security to CIA case officers and countersurveillance and surveillance protection.[97] On September 14 the remains of the slain Americans were returned to the United States. President Barack Obama and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton honored the Benghazi victims at the Transfer of Remains Ceremony held at Andrews Air Force Base, Joint Base Andrews, Maryland.

        Initial reports indicated that ten Libyan guards died; this was later retracted and it was reported that seven Libyans were injured.[98] An early report indicated that three Americans were injured in the attack and treated at an American Military Hospital in Germany.[99]

        Glen Anthony Doherty (c. 1970 – September 11, 2012) of Encinitas,[103] was a native of Winchester, Massachusetts,[104] and a 1988 graduate of Winchester High School.[105] Doherty was the second of three children born to Bernard and Barbara Doherty. He trained as a pilot at Embry–Riddle Aeronautical University before moving to Snowbird, Utah for several winters and then joining the United States Navy. Doherty served as a Navy SEAL, responded to thebombing of the USS Cole, had tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan, and left the Navy in 2005 as a petty officer, first class.[106] After leaving the Navy, he worked for a private security company in Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, Kenya and Libya.[104] In the month prior to the attack, Doherty as a contractor with the State Department told ABC News in an interview that he personally went into the field in Libya to track down MANPADS, shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles, and destroy them.[107]

        Doherty was a member of the advisory board of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an organization that opposes proselytizing by religious groups in the United States military.[108] Doherty was co-author of the book The 21st Century Sniper.[108][109]

        Doherty’s funeral was held at Saint Eulalia’s parish in his native Winchester on September 19, 2012.[110] His celebration of life was held in Encinitas, California the weekend of October 12–14, 2012.[111][112]

        Tyrone S. Woods

        Tyrone Snowden Woods (January 15, 1971 – September 12, 2012), of Imperial Beach,[103] was born in Portland, Oregon.[113] Woods graduated from Oregon City High School in 1989,[113] south of Portland, Oregon, and served 20 years of honorable service in the U.S. Navy before joining State Department Diplomatic Security[114] as a U.S. embassy security personnel,[92] working under a service contract.[115] Since 2010, Woods had protected American diplomats in posts from Central America to the Middle East.[116]

        As a Navy SEAL in 2005-06, Woods was awarded the Bronze Star Medal with combat “V” Device for valor in Iraq.[114][117] He led 12 direct action raids and 10 reconnaissance missions leading to the capture of 34 enemy insurgents in the volatile Al Anbar province.[114] He served multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Middle East and Central America.[118] He retired as a senior chief petty officer in 2010.[119][120]

        Woods also served with distinction at the Naval Medical Center San Diego as a registered nurse and certified paramedic.[117] Having settled in Imperial Beach, California, for a year of his retirement he owned The Salty Frog bar there; he is survived by his second wife, Dr. Dorothy Narvaez-Woods, their one child,[121] and two sons from a previous marriage.[120] Woods was buried at Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery.[122]

        • Commander_Chico

          They were not soldiers. They were State Department Foreign Service Officers and CIA paramilitary contactors.

          They were in Benghazi completely voluntarily, and could have quit at any time. Soldiers cannot quit at any time.

          They were also paid a lot more than soldiers.

          • LiberalNightmare

            Your such a tool.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            It took you this long to figure that out?

          • http://www.harlemghost.blogspot.com/ HarlemGhost

            soldiers quit all the time moron …

          • Commander_Chico

            If a soldier “quits” before the end of a term of years of enlistment it’s called “desertion” or “absence without leave” (AWOL). It is a crime.

            Obviously never served in the military. Go back to haunting Harlem.

          • jim_m

            Chico comes with more BS and lies.

            Active military can ‘quit’ under a number of circumstances:

            – Hardship
            – Pregnancy
            – Sole Surviving Son or Daughter
            – Early Separation to Further Education
            – Convenience of the Government
            – Conscientious Objectors

            Plus there are others. None of these are a gimme and just because you request separation doesn’t mean that it will be granted. But it can and does happen. Maybe if you spent less time coveting your benefits you would know these things.

          • Commander_Chico

            Of course you are speaking from complete ignorance of the procedural and other barriers to any of those reasons.

            A male soldier in Afghanistan won’t be able to just “quit.” A female may manage to get pregnant, true.

          • jim_m

            SO you failed to read my whole comment and missed the part where I said “None of these are a gimme and just because you request separation doesn’t mean that it will be granted”.

            You claimed that it was impossible and could never happen. I said simply that it was possible and listed several ways in which it could be accomplished. I made no specific claims as to circumstances and stated clearly that it was not a simple thing to do.

            Tough that this civilian just embarrassed your ass by knowing more about military procedure than you.

          • Commander_Chico

            Being released for extremely narrow conditions after an application and a process that requires your bosses’ OK is not “quitting” in any sense that you or other civilians can quit your job at any time.

            You might as well have added you can “quit” the military when you have a leg blown off.

            But you can be proud of “embarrassing” me if you wish. You can buy yourself a blue ribbon.

          • jim_m

            I demonstrated that you can get out of the military which you claimed was impossible short of deserting.

            You were wrong. Period. Enjoy your bitterness.

          • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

            Looks like the 55 gallon drum of bitterness landed under out soi disant veteran’s tree…

          • Scorpion

            Riddick Bowe, the boxer, quit the Marine Corps after 3 days of training at Parris Island.

          • Commander_Chico

            Yeah, that happens all of the time at Parris Island, guys just quitting. I’m sure.

            They do let a few guys who are clearly unsuitable out during initial training.

          • LiberalNightmare

            You know what offends me about this?

            Your not making an argument.

            You don’t argue for or against the main point of the post. You don’t proclaim or deny the administrations innocence.

            You crap over dead american soldiers and you have no higher purpose, other than to stir up shit in a web forum.

          • jim_m

            That’s unfair. He gives a crap about his benefits. He also gives a crap about why soldiers die. If they die advancing his agenda or his candidate then there is no limit on how many 1000′s can die before Chico will ever utter a word.

          • Hank_M

            So it’s ok they died while requesting help and that help was denied?

          • Brett Buck

            So what, your point is that it was just fine to leave them to die?

          • Jwb10001

            That is his point exactly.

          • jim_m

            Of course that is his point. They were serving his political agenda therefore their deaths are both useful and acceptable.

          • Jwb10001

            So letting people die has something to do with their pay scale? You’re making less sense than usual.

          • jim_m

            Chico is a communist. He believes that people who earn more money deserve to be killed.

      • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

        A soi disant veteran of the Markos Screw Them Zuniga mold.

  • Walter_Cronanty

    Lying liars who lie. Who said what? – note, two of the quotes are from the same person:
    “This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing do to with.”

    “What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?”

    “But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy– –sparked by this hateful video.”

    “There’s a sealed indictment. It’s sealed for a reason, but we are intent on capturing those who carried out this attack. And we’re going to stay on it until we get them.”

  • Lawrence Westlake

    Chicago-style politics is bad enough when confined to Chicago. When it goes nationwide the inevitable result is de facto third-world banana republic.

  • Scorpion

    Lets see where the troll is coming from:
    We can’t throw a squad of guys with no plan against hundreds of heavily armed demonstrators, er militia. However, a couple of Cobra gunships can sure as hell disrupt any attack until a reactionary force can be assembled. No need for a complicated plan there. Besides, very few battles follow a specific plan.

    Benghazi is less than 1 1/2 hours away from a major base in Italy. The battle lasted over 7 hours. How do you say that you can’t get there in time before the fact?

    “Letting them die may have been the right choice”. At a loss for words on that one.

    The Benghazi defenders were fully aware of the risks. So were the people who enlisted in the armed forces. Duh.
    No soldiers were killed in Benghazi. No, only US citizens.

    This begs a number of questions
    Since the situation in Libya was still volatile, why wasn’t there a plan?
    Who would be responsible for implementing it or rejecting it? Why is it taking so long to find out?

    • Commander_Chico

      Here we have the usual retarded ignorance of military affairs in full display.

      1. The distance from Sigonella Naval Air Station to Benghazi exceeds the range of the Super Cobra by 100 nm.

      2. Moot anyways, because – are there any Cobras stationed at Sigonella Naval Air Station? No.

      • Scorpion

        As a person with a retarded ignorance of military affairs to another; Did you ever hear of a concept of Air-Air Refueling?
        BTW The Cobra was only used as an example. Any gunship would be as effective to quell an attack with night vision capabilities.
        http://theaviationist.com/tag/helicopter-air-to-air-refueling/

        • Commander_Chico

          Cobras can’t be refueled mid-air. And you “assume” there were KC-130s or AC-130s around.

          Given that they are in demand in Afghanistan, Dijbouti and other places, I highly doubt it.

          You know nothing.

          • Scorpion

            Read the post. Chinooks and Sea Stallions are also gunships. BTW Cobras can be refueled through the cabin while hovering above any destroyer or similar ship underway. You know there wasn’t any KC’s in the area?
            They are based in Italy. But, what do I know, you’re the infallible expert.

          • Commander_Chico

            Yes, what do you know? You made a statement that relief was less than 2 hours away in form of Cobras in Sicily. That is utter bullshit.

            Now you’re nattering on about Chinooks, which are Army helicopters stationed a long way away from Sicily.

            As I started out saying, there is zero evidence of any possibility of organizing a rescue mission for those at Benghazi within the time period possible.

            There is still zero evidence. Your Tom Clancy fantasies mean nothing. Go back to World of Warcraft or whatever game you’re playing.

          • OldSarg

            When the story first came out we were told the SF troops in Tripoli were told not to board the Libyan C-130 heading to Benghazi. The C-130 is not operated by the Libyan military but is operated by the US Spec Ops yet here is a picture of Libyan C-130 gunships taken at Robbins AFB in GA: http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/1035/United_States/Georgia/Marietta/Libyan_C_130_planes_in_the_US_2_

            The Operators on the ground in Benghazi lasered the AA gun shooting at the compound. When you lazer a target your position is given away and the only reason you would do so is because you “know” you have resources available overhead. Assets including an armed UAV were overhead recording the entire battle.

            This can no longer be explained away. Our people were abandoned in Benghazi to protect the reelection of this man in the president’s position and Hillary’s future.

      • Jwb10001

        Well then riddle me this brianiac, since we clearly have no capability to protect our diplomatic personnel (which is complete bull shit) after they are attacked, why would we not grant their requests for additional security before they were attactked? You are a complete tool on this issue, you want it both ways, no way to save them no chance to prevent the disaster. Either way it’s a complete and total screw up by the Obama team PERIOD. Now please trot out your standare Iraq deflection so the group can beat you around the head on that too.

        • Commander_Chico

          There’s a big report out in the NYT today, says the militias the CIA was depending on to protect them were among the attackers.

          It’s always easy to have 20/20 hindsight. This was a CIA station in a dangerous area. They should have had more security, yes. But the money was spent on the US Embassy to the Vatican instead.

          http://wizbangblog.com/2013/11/29/obama-disrepecting-the-vatican-catholics-jews-everyone-but-muslims/

          • Jwb10001

            So let me understand you agree that Obama;s team failed. They misallocated resources, got involved in Lybia helped create a dangerous situation then placed our people in harms way with a crappy plan to protect them and no resources within reach should something go wrong. So one should assume you would not be supporting Hillary since it’s her deptment that is most responsible for this debacle, right?

          • Commander_Chico

            Yes, the Obama team failed. First, the intervention was unnecessary. Second, poor planning. Third, lack of resources, including personnel.

            The difference between Chico and right-wing zombies is that Chico sees this as just another fuck-up in a string of worse fuck-ups. The difference is that CIA paramilitaries were fighting instead of military. And, of course, the scale – Iraq was much worse – more than a thousand times worse on the scale of US deaths. Everything you mention – misallocation of resources, crappy planning, creating a dangerous situation – was present in Iraq, right? Up to ignoring the recommendations of the Army Chief of Staff and “you go to war with the Army you have” and “stuff happens.” So where was the right-wing outrage on that?

            No way will I ever vote for Hillary – she is the worst of foreign interventionism with nanny-statism. Whether I can vote for the Republican remains to be seen. I could support Christie if he abstains from warmongering.

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