Chris Christie for President!

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  • 914

    Yes, a good joke!

  • twolaneflash

    President….of his HOA.

  • Lawrence Westlake

    Doubtful in any event that Christie could have gotten through the Idiocracy elements of the GOP’s primary selectorate and its horrific demographics. Romney managed, granted, but that was for him the second time around that block, he had a colossal money advantage and after Perry imploded it was a historically weak field.

    • Sky__Captain

      Actually, it was the Democrats with the weaker field, both in experience and ability, as history has shown.
      Unfortunately for the US, the historically weak Democrat field had quite a propaganda arm – the mainstream (Democrat) media.

  • Paul Hooson

    Republicans probably cannot win the 2016 election if Hillary runs, but their best hope for a strong second place finish that could pull along some Republican candidates for congress was Chris Christie….until last week. Now, it’s a waiting game to see whether this moderate conservative can get his footing back, or whether he falls apart and doesn’t run, allowing some weak more conservative candidate to run a much weaker race against Hillary in 2016. Despite the failings of Obama, Hillary can more likely win an election than any candidate at this point. And I think a lot of Americans might just want to elect a woman at this point in time. It’s just not in the cards for any Republican candidate that’s currently known to run strong enough of a race to win at this point in time.

    • Vagabond661

      Hillary…hmmmm….what are her qualifications again? She can be easily fooled by her husband and a youtube video?

      • Paul Hooson

        Polls had Christie and Clinton in a statistical tie before this scandal, but some polls suggest that Christie would lose his home state of NJ in a general election to Clinton, strongly suggesting he won’t win the election. Further, other possible GOP candidates including Perry, Cruz, Ryan or others, trail Clinton by 8 to 21 points. A eight point lead could suggest an electoral vote edge for Clinton on the order of 100 more or better electoral votes. – What the GOP needs to count to win in 2016 is the emergence of a new strong candidate as well as voters souring on Democrats in a strong gut reaction to Obama, but polls don’t show that. Clinton left the Obama Administration early enough that she hasn’t been as badly tarnished as Republicans need to win.
        Another problem for Republicans is that White voters which are the bulk of the party strength are declining as the total of all voters, as many new voters are nonwhite, and tending strongly Democratic in their voting patterns. This trend is particularly true among Hispanic and Asian voters.
        Republicans best hope at this point? Hillary is not the Democratic nominee and Christie recovers from this scandal, otherwise there is little Republicans can do but sigh as they lose the White House for the third election in a row at this point in time.

        • Vagabond661

          It really doesn’t matter if Hillary runs or not. The Dems have proven they can run anyone and win. As long as the GOP and the media picks the candidate, i.e. McCain, Romney, and now Christie, the Dems will win.

        • LiberalNightmare

          If Hillary was unbeatable, we wouldnt have 0bama today.

          • Paul Hooson

            In the Democratic Party the strength of Black voters to determine the nominee is very powerful, hence Obama over Clinton in 2008. Read my larger explanation below regarding voter demographics to see why the current political demographics are the way they are.
            Besides being a businessman I have just a little less than a Ph.D equivalent of education in sciences such as psychology and sociology. I understand the psychology of the voters as well as their sociological makeup, and I just don’t see how White conservatives have enough numbers among all voters to elect the next president. The numbers aren’t there.

          • jim_m

            Besides being a businessman I have…

            Select one to correctly complete the sentence:
            – a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
            – a few cards short of a full deck.
            – two hub caps short of a Buick.
            – a few fries short of a happy meal.

          • – all of the above.

          • Vagabond661

            Question: Why “white” conservatives? Being conservative transcends race, religion, social position and wealth. And people who define themselves as conservative are the largest body of voters.

            Maybe it would be more accurate to split fiscal conservatives and social conservatives.

          • Paul Hooson

            There you go. I have many of the traits of a fiscal conservative with extremely liberal social views. I like to hear words like reduced taxes, reduced regulation, less government spending, but strongly oppose most social conservative views except their opposition to abortion.

          • LiberalNightmare

            Whats the equivalent of a PHD?

            2 quarts? or is it a metric thing?

          • Paul Hooson

            I’m only speaking of my 7 years of college in three colleges. – I look at things in terms of social psychology and sociology.

          • jim_m

            7 years of college down the drain.

          • LiberalNightmare

            In the Democratic Party the strength of Black voters to determine the nominee is very powerful, hence Obama over Clinton in 2008.

            Did the black voters leave? Is there some reason that they may change their minds about Hillary in 2014?

          • jim_m

            In the Democratic Party the strength of Black voters to determine the nominee is very powerful,

            What nonsense.

            Blacks are 12% of the total US population but they vote in smaller numbers than that.Let’s assume that for the sake of argument that dems and republicans are 50/50 (which based on the last few elections is not too unreasonable), since 95+% of blacks vote dem that would mean that the max influence they have is 24% of the primary vote. It should be considerably less than that given that they don’t vote and there are many open primaries allowing independents and conservatives to vote in dem primaries.

            So blacks cannot exert that much influence with their votes in the primaries and their ability to influence the general election is essentially nil seeing as they only ever vote for the dems. While their votes can certainly be decisive, their ability to influence anything is zero because there is no one trying to get their votes. The dems take them for granted and the GOP takes them as a lost cause.

            For them to influence anything they have to have the ability to choose where their votes go. Since they will nearly automatically vote for any black candidate in the primary and for a dem in the general, their ability to influence anything is small.

            This is why, once elected, dem officials do nothing to better the fate of blacks in this country. There is no incentive for them to do anything. If they are going to get the votes anyway why expend any political energy to do anything for blacks?

    • JWH

      Actually … When a party holds the White House for eight years, it often has a hard time continuing for another term. Therefore, Hillary will be quite vulnerable in 2016. I don’t agree with them politically, but the GOP actually has a pretty strong back bench for 2016.

      • Paul Hooson

        Besides the voter demographics changing, including huge influxes in minority voters such as Hispanics or Asians, Republicans no longer hold a safe electoral base to win the presidency, except if they can win Ohio, which tends to be a smaller model of the entire U.S. electorate. But, even in that state, minority voters, who tend heavily Democratic are beginning to amass larger numbers outweighing White voters who split between the two parties.
        One of the biggest factors why Republicans are unlikely to defeat Clinton in 2016 is that they are so divided, while Democrats are so united. Among Republicans this division is quite evident even here at Wizbang where the conservative core of readers talks down a mainstream conservative like Christie, and instead supports far less popular more extreme conservatives who sell even less well with the mainstream of all voters. Ideology is placed over winning elections for many Republicans right now.
        Listen to this very carefully. This is why Republicans will more likely than not lose in 2016: Many Republican voters are more interested in electing conservatives than electing Republicans. In the Democratic Party, the world’s oldest political party, and for good reason, Democrats are only interested in electing Democrats. – Democratic voters don’t care about the political ideology of their candidates, while many Republican voters do. Republicans are the #2 political party in the U.S., and also suffer heavy ideological fractures that the Democrats don’t have. Democrats long ago solved party fractures between the pro-slavery or pro-segregation units in the party, where Black voters are now one of the largest factions in the party helping to determine the Democratic nominee. This is also why many Black voters felt so offended by Bush being declared the winner in the disputed 2000 election, and it only helped to propel Obama to both run and be elected by Black voters in the last two elections, where he won 90% or better of the Black vote in nearly all states.
        If Christie is so damaged he cannot run, that probably leaves Paul Ryan as the likely nominee for the Republicans. However, he has proven that he cannot even win his home state and failed to move very many voters over to the Romney side in Wisconsin. I don’t know of any candidate that has ever been elected president who has lost their home state. Al Gore lost the presidency in 2000 not because he lost the disputed Florida vote, but because he lost his home state of Tennessee. Mitt Romney lost the election in 2012 because he could not win his home state of Michigan or Massachusetts, where he was governor, and Ryan could not deliver Wisconsin either. Some other Republican candidates like Perry, proved he could win his home state of Texas, but fails to show much of a political base outside of the South and a few states like Utah. That’s not enough electoral base to win the election.
        Based on the actual voters who are actually registered to vote, most Republican candidates just don’t enough of a support base to win the electoral college right now. White conservatives are simply a minority of voters, and a shrinking minority of voters, compared to all voters. Republicans need to broaden their tent and party to win a national election, unless they are just content to try to drive government from the backseat with a slight edge in congress. But masterminding efforts like government shutdowns until they get their way on issues hardly proves a real position of strength on their part. It’s still driving government from the backseat, and not from the White House itself.
        Many here may wish that many of these realities were different. But, they are not. These are the political realities here. The cold truth at this point of time in politics.

  • It just may be a bridge too far.

  • LiberalNightmare

    The only people that really wanted Christie to run for pres are democrats.

    They view Christie as a candidate they can beat, and if not that, then at least a republican president they can live with.

    He’s soft on the 2nd amendment, and he believes the liberal talking point that if those darn republicans would just compromise, then it would all work out (for the liberals).

    I like Christie as a character. Its fun to watch him bitch slap liberals in town halls and press events. But he wont get my vote.

  • Par4Course

    No Republican will become the next President for two reasons: (1) When someone looks like he (or she) might be a front-runner or have any chance of winning, the MSM will launch a full out assault, such as we saw this week with Christie. (A traffic jam is 17X more important to the MSM than Benghazi or Fast and Furious or the IRS targeting Tea Party groups.) (2) No one will pass the standard of perfection needed to attract the votes of all those who call themselves Republicans. Thus, although Chris Christie would be a huge improvement over Obama, Biden, Hillary, et al., if CC is the nominee, many nominally GOP voters will stay home from the polls, assuring 4 more years of Dem rule. Hopefully, the GOP will hold the House and maybe pick up some Senate seats to help moderate the country’s decline. (There is no second coming of Ronald Reagan on the horizon. Another Reagan is the only way the Grand Old Party will ever recapture the White House.)

    • Paul Hooson

      Part of Reagan’s magic was that most people would overlook his short comings, disagreements with his policies, or ignore his rampant Administration scandals with the CIA, Oliver North, Iran-Contra, etc. because they loved the man so much as a witty and gifted communicator. People look back the Clinton years as being good, and that benefits Hillary, at least for now. But, with the exception of Christie, none of the known likely GOP field has the warmth of Reagan. Reagan was a one of a kind personality.

      • jim_m

        All you heard on the news every night was Iran Contra. I suggest that your memory is faulty.

  • Retired military

    “Chris Christie for President!”

    Umm No thanks