Hey Colorado the horse is out of the barn

Colorado passed a ban on high capacity magazines and now they’re paying the price. Two Democrat Senators were recalled and a third was about to be recalled when she resigned, giving the Governor the opportunity to appoint a Democratic replacement. Had she been recalled, control of the Senate would have swung to Republicans.

When the law was being considered, the CEO of Magpul Industries, a premier manufacturer of gun accessories and especially high capacity magazines, told the legislature and the Governor that if the ban was passed he would move his company. They passed it, he’s moving his manufacturing operations to Montana and the company headquarters to Texas. Coloradoans probably didn’t need that thousand or so jobs anyway.

Now, a group of legislators is pushing to lift the ban.

As the report notes, the ban will be upheld this time but there’s an election coming up and it’s time to get Democrats on the record.

With respect to Mr. Sullivan who lost his son in a gun-free zone to a nut-case who authorities knew was a danger to society far ahead of his murder binge in the Aurora theater, you kidding yourself if you think a magazine ban will save one life.

In fact, even a moderately competent shooter can practice and change out 10 round magazines in under two seconds. Changing out magazines won’t reduce the death toll in a mass shooting. In fact, the only thing that has absolutely been proven to reduce the death toll in that type of situation is a “good guy with a gun”. There have been numerous instances where an active shooter has been faced with an armed citizen and the shooting stopped immediately, typically by the shooter’s suicide.

The agenda here isn’t banning magazines. The agenda is banning all firearms and the government confiscating them from private citizens. This is not about protecting the public from “mass shootings”, they get a lot publicity but the actual number of deaths is very small. More people die on a routine weekend in Chicago than from mass shootings. Gun confiscation groups have just used mass shootings as a media event.

If people really wanted to protect “the children”, they’d do what the Colorado legislature is going to consider, arming public school officials and taking down the “gun free” signs. In the recent school shooting event where a student showed up with a shotgun – Joe Biden’s weapon of choice – and Molotov cocktails, there happened to be an off-duty sheriff on premise and when he showed up after the young shooter had gotten off just a couple of shots, the shooter killed himself. If that armed citizen hadn’t been on scene it’s possible that the casualty count would have been very high. A shotgun typically holds five shells and is rather clumsy to reload, but the probability of being able to reload at least a couple of time is quite high in an active shooter situation.

We had a similar situation in a shopping mall in Arizona, active shooter with a rifle was confronted with an armed citizen before he could do any real damage, and the shooter killed himself.

The solution to “mass shootings” lies not in magazine bans or banning cosmetics on weapons – see assault weapon bans – it lies in applying the 2nd Amendment more liberally with open carry and “shall-issue” concealed carry laws.


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  • alanstorm

    “In fact, even a moderately competent shooter can practice and change out 10 round magazines in under two seconds.”

    True. The flip side is that that’s not something you want to count on in a self-defense role. If a predator is intent on a mass killing, a smaller magazine PROBABLY won’t change anything. He’s already decided on a course of action; he has the initiative, a magazine change isn’t going to be an issue. It wasn’t for the Virginia Tech shooter.

    For someone DEFENDING himself, a magazine change is an unnecessary, and potentially fatal distraction. On defense, you’ve already been ambushed and are playing catch-up.

    Magazine limits are one of those “Do something utterly symbolic, so it looks like we CARE!” actions.

  • Want to do something ‘for the children’?

    Mandate 4-sided barrier fencing for swimming pools. 683 children from 1-4 drowned between 2005 and 2009.
    If it saves just one life, as the saying goes…

    • jim_m

      Wrong. We should be banning swimming pools except when owned and operated by government officials.

      Same with 5 gallon buckets.

      If the answer to something dangerous is to prohibit access to that something then this is the only consistent response.

    • Michael Becker

      Let’s have the government hand out chips to families for approved fast food too. Each family gets a predetermined number of chips per month. They can be used for approved fast food menu items. No chip, no fast food. And, the government will insure that the food is healthy.

      No more fat kids.

  • 914

    Want to do “something for the children?” Take the pen out of King Putts hand.

  • Hank_M

    These bans are stupid, there’s no other charitable way to put it. Just ask Mark Witaschek, a successful financial adviser with no criminal record, who’s facing two years in prison for possession of unregistered ammunition. The ammunition?
    “One live round of 12-gauge shotgun ammunition,” which was an inoperable shell
    that misfired during a hunt years earlier. Mr. Witaschek had kept it as a souvenir.

    But they do placate the pajama boys and girls who always want just one more law passed when something bad happens. And it also does futher, albeit incrementally, the overall goal of banning all weapons.

    Problem is, when these pajama boys and girls are confronted by a lunatic shooter, they don’t start yelling for someone to pass a law, they start shouting and screaming for someone to stop the nutball.

  • stan25

    Magpul is moving to Cheyenne Wyo, not Montana.


    • jim_m

      Good choice. I believe that Wyoming is a constitutional carry state.

    • Michael Becker

      My bad. All those cold places look alike from my 77 degree porch in Phoenix. Thanks for the correction.

  • GarandFan

    In other news today, the 9th Circuit Court ruled that the 2nd Amendment protects the RIGHT of citizens to carry a weapon in public places, not just the home.

    Hell just froze over. Must be the global warming.

  • SteveCrickmore075

    I’m surprised no one on this site, included this wingnut argument in favor of allowing 100 round magazines. Colorado Republican state Senator. Bernie Herpin; “As it turned out, that was maybe a good thing that he (the Aurora theater gunman) had a 100-round magazine, because it jammed. If he had four, five, six 15-round magazines, there’s no telling how much damage he could have done until a good guy with a gun showed up. ‘Herpin explains why it was a ‘good thing’ Holmes (the Aurora theater gunman) had (a) large ammo magazine’.

    • alanstorm

      Do you have a point?

      Would you let us know what it is?

      Assuming you know what it is?

  • Lawrence Westlake

    Trying to explain the realities of “gun control” to a leftist is like trying to explain a Cirque du Soleil show to Helen Keller. That aside, on a larger point, the ghastly decline of Colorado is a textbook example of what happens when the irrationality of the right and the erstwhile right collides with core political realities. It wasn’t that long ago that Colorado was a conservative Republican state. A dead solid lock for GOP presidential candidates. Hell, even Bob Dole won there. It was run conservatively at the state level even when a Democrat happened to be governor. Businesses and jobs were moving to Colorado, not from it. Less than 15 years ago Bill Owens was reelected there with the largest gubernatorial majority in the state’s history. W. Bush easily won the ’04 presidential ballot there. But then the illegal immigration blowup happened. No Republican has won a major election there since ’06, inclusive. Now the state has turned into a farce. Connect the dots.

  • Michael Lang

    Methinks that November is not going to be a good month for Dems in Colorado.