Cops Murdered: ‘The Beginning of the Revolution’

Saying “this is the beginning of the revolution,” a couple gunned down two Las Vegas police officers as they ate lunch last weekend. The pair killed themselves in a WalMart not long afterward. As this incident was reported, it occurred to me that I have been warning of this horrible state of affairs, and I am afraid this is not going to be a one-off incident.

As we learn more of the pair of shooters we find that they have a history of seeing government as an enemy to the people. But they aren’t alone.

In the after math as police talked to the media about the shootings, Sheriff Doug Gillespie told the media, “What precipitated this event, we do not know. My officers were simply having lunch.”

But is the sheriff right? Is this incident really such a surprise?

The shootings that ended inside a Las Vegas WalMart with a pair of murderers insisting that they were killing “law enforcement” officers as a means to start a revolution is exactly the sort of thing I have warned about many times.

Firstly, we need to realize this is not a “gun” problem. This is a government problem.

This incident did not happen in a vacuum. It occurred after a decade of police militarizing themselves, after years of police treating we, the people, as enemies, it comes as police everywhere are turning their departments into miniature armies replete with their own air forces, and armored tanks. It comes after a wild rise in the number of SWAT teams and as so-called “law enforcement” agencies have increasingly developed an attitude that they are more important than we lowly citizens.

In fact, these two nuts that killed the Vegas officers–and make no mistake, these two were nuts–were directly affected by Obama’s militarization of the US government. The pair was supposedly in attendance at the Bundy Ranch (though I haven’t seen direct proof of that) when Obama sent his jackbooted government thugs to destroy a single ranger’s livelihood.

As a result of actions like Obama’s–and these actions are happening by law enforcement all across the nation–more and more people are seeing our various American governments, whether they be city, county, state, or federal, as an enemy force oppressing us all and destroying our freedoms.

The problem is, this interpretation isn’t really that far off base. It is an all too reasonable interpretation of the way our governments are abusing their authority. Sadly, this isn’t a groundless reaction to the growing police state in which we live.

We are edging past a healthy and quite American skepticism of government and into the out right hatred and literal fear of government. And Americans aren’t as weak willed as the people of other nations. When we feel oppressed we fight, we don’t just bend over and take it. Eventually we rise up.

So, as our various governments continue to erect barricades between the people and the elites in government, it is only natural that more people like these two in Vegas will begin to see “law enforcement” as an enemy and begin to target them for death.

I am loathe to say this but I am very much afraid this will not be a lone incident. It is likely to become a more common occurrence.

Unless something is done to reverse the trend our governments have started, it will become open season on anyone in authority. Worse, a real revolution just might occur.

Do I want this to happen? Certainly not. I’d rather see the power of government decreased the proper way, via the ballot box. I’d rather see government agencies disbanded and disarmed. I’d rather see the power of government muted and military hardware taken away from police departments (This hardware will only be abused and misused to oppress the citizens, anyway).

But if that doesn’t happen, if government continues down this path of putting itself above the people the way it is now doing, it will only be natural that more cops are targeted like they were in Las Vegas. And eventually, if it continues to get worse, it won’t just be policemen targeted. It will be clerks in offices, government workers, and politicians.

We need to disempower government while we still have time. We need to put an end to this growing hatred of our government by putting government back in its place. But we need to do it peacefully, not at the point of a gun.

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  • Hank_M

    I agree that any change has to be done peacefully.

    But it’s going to be difficult with a ruling class that goes out of it’s way to stoke
    disagreement, engages in uneven application of the law, demonizes specific segments of the population, rewards law breaking on our borders and seems intent on creating chaos everywhere.

    Put that together with the present liberal governing policies of income redistribution, corrupt IRS, politicized Justice Dept, an out of control EPA that seems hell bent on lowering our standard of living and it’s no wonder some people are starting to snap.

    I don’t condone it and I hope to god we never reach the point of an armed revolution. But I have increasing doubts about the sanctity of the vote.

    And if there is a voter revolution and the present ruling class is somehow thown out, I have no doubt that we’ll once again see headlines and reports that the voters have thrown a tantrum and white privilege wins out.

    • jim_m

      Peaceful change is unlikely. The left occupies the vast majority of the bureaucracy. They will not easily let that power over the lives of the public go. Nor are they likely to willingly let go of the enormous transfer of wealth from the public to the democrat party through the extraction of union dues on public workers paid with taxpayer money.

      My expectation is that should middle of the road and conservative people, who want less government and more freedom, gain the upper hand that the left will foment the violence. They have far more to lose and they have already demonstrated their willingness to murder people in the name of their ideology.

  • Commander_Chico

    There is no doubt that the USA is moving in the direction of a police state. But local regular cops like those Las Vegas cops are usually ok.

    In a country of 300 million plus, there are going to be a lot of nuts.

    • Retired military

      And your man Barrack Hussein Obama mmm mmm mmm is moving us there as fast as possible. Arent you happy?

    • At least two of them here, based on your updings.

  • Paul Hooson

    It was of course Homeland Security measures starting with the Bush Administration after 9/11, and continued with the Obama Administration that meant an erosion of civil liberties and more methods of surveillance to stop just this type armed screwballs before they become a public safety threat. Extremists on the far left and far right have always presented threats to public safety and will continue to find themselves under the radar of government that will look at whether they are just crazy or whether they are crazy and willing to back up their delusional thinking or politics with some threat to themselves or public safety.

    The fact of the matter is that for just $49 a month, normal persons can have access to a lawyer all month long through a prepaid legal service like Legal Shield, and have these lawyers peacefully address any problem they may have with any business, neighbor or government agency, all for this one single $49 charge, except filing fees if you want to go to court.

    Instead, this couple wear bizarre make-up like they’ve watched one way too many Batman movies and made a pathetic video crying into the camera like they’re having a mental breakdown and act totally bananas in public before killing themselves. Normal people don’t do stuff like this. This a full blown mental health crisis here, and some friend really needed to get these people mental health help before things got to this point. Mentally ill and with weapons is not a good combination. Unfortunately, it is also just the mentally ill who often find themselves so attracted to weapons because it must help them to feel less weak and inadequate to resolve their problems. This same sort of disturbed mentality is like the weird kid who shoots up his school. The problem remains how to keep weapons from these sort of disturbed persons and how to get them professional help for their delusional and paranoid psychiatric issues.

  • Brucehenry

    God you fuckers are nuts. Irresponsible nuts, too.

    Bloggers like Warner beat the drums for years, crying wolf about “jackbooted thugs” and “tyranny” and “government oppressors destroying our freedoms” and on and on ad nauseum.

    Then, when two of the lunatics who’ve fed themselves a steady diet of this paranoid nonsense finally, you know, murder a couple of police officers at a pizza joint, hey, it’s “only natural.” And unfuckingbelievably it’s OBAMA’S Fault, along with every other ill in the world.

    Whining about income redistribution fucking spare me. Ain’t nobody gonna redistribute YOUR income, Hank. Jesus.

    Linking to this Brandon Darby crap while making excuses for cop-killers. Good job, Jim.

    Finding it reasonable to believe as Jared Miller and his dumbass wife believed. Hey, aren’t we all Jerad Millers now, Warner? Or we will be soon, or something.

    “Who, ME? No, really, I want to have a revolution WITH VOTES, I swear!” Says Warner.

    Yeah, right.

    You know, usually I find you fucking wingnuts amusing but damn, you’re too crazy to see the consequences of slinging around this kind of paranoid rhetoric, and this time it ain’t funny. Good people are dead and nuts all over the country are making plans to emulate these lunatics. And you make excuses for them.

    Too far gone. Down the fucking rabbit hole.

    • Projects the hemorrhoid very much indeed.

      • Brucehenry

        Pithy and clever as usual. My fedora is off too you sir.

        • Keep your hat on, it hides the point and contains the stench.

          • Brucehenry

            I never wear hats, they make middle aged guys look pathetic and ridiculous.

          • Another public service not performed.

          • Brucehenry

            Again with the pith.

          • Pithing the excretia-cephalic is a public service, even if malodorous.

          • Brucehenry

            Coprophilia is treatable, M Soi Disant.

          • Not once the excretia-cephallic reach physical maturity.

          • Brucehenry

            I’m sorry that your parents didn’t intervene before it was too late then.

          • You’re just a sorry specimen (though a potent argument for 100th trimester + abortion).

          • Heh…

            I never wear hats…

            quoth he who earlier in the same thread wrote:

            My fedora is off too you sir.

            Consistent, much?

          • Brucehenry

            Figure of speech genius

          • and there you were trying to play ipse scripset on down the thread…

          • well at least you won’t LOOK pathetic and ridiculous … how can we hide the way you act ?

          • The uncontrolled salivation and spasmodic legs give it away anyhow…

    • jim_m

      You’re free to not come here.

      I’m not making excuses for cop killers. I am also comparing lefties to the same insane lunatics that did this. Too fucking bad if you dislike it that people who are celebrated by the left for domestic terrorism are compared to these scumbags. Fact of the matter is that you are no different. Either clean up your house or deal with hearing this.

      • Brucehenry

        Yeah you are and so is Warner.

        • jim_m

          Learn how to read dumbass. No one is excusing these murders.

          Nope, I will expect that we will have plenty of lefties trying to stand on the dead bodies of these officers trying to make some political gains from their deaths. Of course, you will think that ghoulishly attempting to profit from these deaths is OK.

          • Brucehenry

            No no excuses it’s “only natural.” Their views are “all too reasonable.” Their interpretation of recent events and politics is “not too far off base.”

            And lefties do it too, or something. But no excuses, nosiree.

          • jim_m

            I used none of those phrases so I think you owe me an apology.

          • Brucehenry

            Gee I’m sorry. That’s hilarious coming from the guy who is forever telling us what our comments are ACTUALLY saying, not the plain meaning of what we wrote.

          • jim_m

            I don’t put my interpretations in quotations and then claim that you said those things word for word as you just did by claiming that I said a bunch of things I never did.

          • Brucehenry

            OK. Warner is making excuses for cop-killers by using the quoted phrases. You are making the excuse that lefties do it too.

          • jim_m

            Not at all. I said that I expect that when political violence really comes (not just an isolated incident by two crazies) that I expect it will come form the left.

            That was not an argument that the left does it too. If you were educated you would have understood that, but as it is your 3rd grade education probably missed the meaning of the simple words.

          • Brucehenry

            All Wizbangers can read. You can explain it away all you like your words are here on the page unless you go back and edit them ex post facto, Which I don’t put past you. You’ve already done it on this thread.

          • jim_m

            A lie (not surprisingly) I correct typos as I find them and occasionally I will ADD additional comments, but I do not change the meaning of my comments and you know it. Being desperate to bail yourself out of your earlier hyperbolic lies and misrepresentations you are now doubling down. You’re pathetic.

          • Brucehenry

            We can all read. And you’ve been commenting here for years. Everyone knows what I’m talking about.

          • Your writing here shows no evidence of your reading comprehension.

          • jim_m

            Everyone knows your full of crap.

            And yes, I added this last sentence just to piss you off.

            I think that I will make it a practice to post my comments one sentence at a time and then edit for each additional sentence.

          • Brucehenry

            Well you do spend most of your time here. Might as well give it the rest.

          • jim_m

            I spend a lot of time doing other things

          • Crazy is crazy, the motivations of the crazed are effectively irrelevant.

          • Brucehenry

            Editing after being replied to is a cheap trick.

          • jim_m

            If your page is open with just the tag that a reply is there and I edit it before you click on the tag, it will open up and not show the edit until you refresh the page. I have seen that in your comments too so fuck off you freaking pussy.

          • Brucehenry

            So you’re technically not a weasel, got it.

          • jim_m

            Just pointing out that I am clearly more observant than you and can correctly understand the reality around me. You seem to need a lot of help with that.

          • Hey, I’m the weasel around here! He must be a ferret!


            (Noble creatures, they, as Richard Bach plainly shows…)



        • Are you having a hard time finding the exit again?

    • LiberalNightmare

      yap, yap, yap , insert obscenity to draw attention, yap yap yap.

    • warnertoddhuston

      Learn to read, asswipe.

    • Retired military

      Whereas the idiots who killed the cops did so out of idiocy. And the left will use this drumbeat to try to get strickter gun control laws (ignoring the fact that killing cops is illegal).
      I do have one bone to pick with you.

      “Ain’t nobody gonna redistribute YOUR income, Hank

      Who do you think is paying for all those illegal aliens that aren’t going home?
      I guess you could say China since that is who we are borrowing the money from and paying them back in our taxes.

  • GarandFan

    While I can see people getting disaffected by government, coupling this with the shooting of two cops is way off the mark.

  • jim_m

    Bruce’s whining aside, Warner makes a good point. As police departments become more “militarized” and as the federal government creates more and more of a police state (as even Chico admits, even though he keeps voting for it), the police will become more and more of a target.

    This is not helped by the fact that even though the regular patrol officer is not necessary the sharp end of the spear of the police state they are often accessories used to secure the perimeter of operations like the one surrounding Cliven Bundy.

    Crazies will see them as relatively easy to access representatives of a government they dislike. Like it or not, as the government makes itself less and less liked by the public, its most publicly accessible representatives will increasingly become targets of the unbalanced. Perhaps we should have Bruce committed before he hurts someone.

    • Brucehenry

      Crazies will be egged on by cynical bloggers — who I doubt believe half the hyperbolic nonsense they spout — and there will be more murders of public servants.

      Some people got no fucking shame.

      • jim_m

        You show very little shame indeed. Great job of leaping up on top of the dead to make a political gotcha Bruce.

        Public servants have always been the targets of the unbalanced. Of course, people like Squeaky From and John Hinkley were lauded by the left because their targets were conservatives.

        • jim_m

          Wait Bruce, can you tell what I added?

          • Brucehenry

            Funny you should mention Bundy. Miller and his old lady were big fans of his, as was Warner and many others here.

          • jim_m

            You didn’t answer my question.

            But yes the point was that crazy people will target the police for any number of reasons.

          • Brucehenry

            A lie that they were “lauded”? No, seriously, first names? In any event you didn’t add the correct spelling of their names.

          • jim_m

            Trick question. I didn’t change anything, but I did in my last 😀

          • Brucehenry

            Is my face red, or what?

          • jim_m

            You should drink less then.

          • Brucehenry

            June 16th will be five years for me.

          • jim_m

            You’re running out of fingers to count on.

          • Brucehenry

            I got toes

          • jim_m

            Apparently you have toes but no proper sentence construction.

          • He’ll never make it to 21…



            yes, it’s true, this man has no dick. /Ghostbusters mode.

          • jim_m

            Tell you what, I’ll drink to your sobriety.

          • Brucehenry

            Thanks enjoy!

          • jim_m

            Bulleit Bourbon tonight. It’s quite nice.

          • Brucehenry

            I only miss alcohol on cold evenings when I would like to drink Bushmill’s. I don’t miss the buzz at all.

          • Marlborough (Kirkland) Sauvignon Blanc,2013.

            You Health, Jim.

          • I’d drink to his interment…

          • Brown, actually…

          • Your evidence in support of those accusations?

          • Brucehenry
        • Brucehenry

          Yeah the Clinton administration put Fromme and Hinckley on stamps, didn’t they?

      • Some people got no fucking shame.

        Quoth the shameless hemorrhoid.

  • SteveCrickmore075

    It would be nice to hear from conservative moderates, they have largely disppeared (I wonder why) since the site was taken over by the irresponsible, abusive, far right wingers. Canada has had its experinece with a right wing conspiracy, anti-government gun nut who just last week shot three mounties to watch them die in Moncton, New Brunswick. I suppose this nut make no mistake about it –”was directly affected by Obama’s militarization of the US government”, or would that be Stephen Harper, the Conservative Prime Minister’s militarization of the Canadian government.

    • jim_m

      Steve is apparently off his meds as he is commenting in incoherent and incomplete sentences.

    • jim_m

      Careful, Steve. Bruce will be coming to scold you for altering your comment.

      For obvious reasons Warner’s article was addressing events inside the US. I am not surprised to find that you missed that rather obvious point.

      As for me, I think that you would have to be off your rocker to live in that frozen wasteland anyway. But I would also point out that a lot of mass shootings occur in blue states down here, but I don’t think that it’s really so much a matter of red vs blue as crazy happens everywhere.

      • SteveCrickmore075

        I couldn’t edit my original comment for the typing erors before I sent it, so I edited aftewards. You are sounding more resonable at least. The point i was making about the Canadian shooting- is that you can’t lay this at the foot of any federal government. Harper has been pro gun ownership, as best I can tell. America has a history of the wild west ,Turner’s frontier thesis, even before the 20th century. Another mutiple shooting, in a Portland área high school today…every couple of days in seems, the price of freedom and America’s indulgence that everyone has the right to own and carry a gun before being judged responsible.

        • jim_m

          Gun ownership has increased, availability of legal concealed carry has increased all the while the murder rate has declined in the US. Any claims of a wild west environment in the US is unrelated to the actual numbers of gun owners, guns and ability of people to legally carry in public.

          SO as the number of guns has increased over the last 40 years the murder rate has declined.

          Compared to violent crime in the UK which has increased unabated despite a total ban on guns.

          But if you want to see a real correlation between the murder rate and something else, take a look at the inverse correlation between the number of executions and the murder rate.

          So if you think that guns cause crime or murder you are full of crap. But then you also believe in global warming which is another leftist religious belief that has no foundation in fact.

        • jim_m

          As to crime in general being related to the ability of gun owners to legally carry their weapons:

          So there is no relationship between gun ownership, concealed carry and increased crime. In fact crime rates are declining. What you have, Steve, is an argument that is not based in any form of reality. You are arguing completely from ideology and not at all from fact or evidence.

          • SteveCrickmore075

            The rate of gun homicides is down in part, because of better hospital treatment. The rate of intentional gunshot wounds is not down.

          • jim_m

            Homicide and ALL violent crime are in decline. Provide whatever bogus excuse you want, the anti-gun crowd made hysterical claims that there would be gunfights in the streets that the crime and murder rate would soar. These have been proven false. The sad thing is that even in the face of that evidence you cannot bring yourself to acknowledge that those claims were idiotic and hysteria-induced hallucinations.

          • jim_m

            More lies from Steve.

            Let’s look at the actual CDC report:

            During the 6-year period, estimates are that quarterly fatal firearm-related injury rates declined 29.3%, and quarterly nonfatal firearm-related injury rates declined 46.9%. Firearm-related injury rates declined for intentionally self-inflicted, assault, and unintentional causes.


            Injuries declined for assault cases. What you just claimed is a lie and you failed to show any evidence that what you claim could be supported by anything pother than your ideology.

            More recent reports can be found that claim that the total number of firearm related injuries has remained flat over the 2000-2009 time period, but it is the rate that matters and if the total number remains relatively flat in a growing population that means that the rate is declining.

          • Retired military

            Well since you qualified INTENTIONAL that tends to lead me to believe that if guns weren’t available they would use something else genius. What else do you suggest we bans? Knives? cars? Poison? baseball bats?
            After all if it saves just one child

    • Walter_Cronanty

      I don’t know if I’m a “conservative moderate” or not – on some things I’m extremely conservative, on others I’m sure some might consider me liberal, but hopefully, never progressive.
      I always cringe when someone tries to smear an entire portion of the population for the acts of a nutbar – whether it’s branding the left because of the apparently leftist dipshit who shot up some place because the hate-mongering Southern Poverty Law Center listed it as “hate” group, or smearing the Democrats because Fred Phelps, founder of the Westboro Baptist Church, was a delegate for Al Gore at a long past Democratic Convention, or tying all green weenies to Ted Kaczynski [although there certainly is a branch of the CAGW group that looks a lot like Ted].
      So, in summary:
      Crazy people are crazy.
      The militarization of local police departments is worrisome.
      The Federal government, and to a somewhat lesser extent, local and state governments, are increasingly and with alarmingly rapidity, taking away our civil liberties.
      So, am I a “moderate conservative?”

      • SteveCrickmore075

        “The miltarization of local pólice is worrisome” It depends what you mean by militarization and civil liberties .and which ones they are and were if you think they were better in the past before Obama. For example, you don’t want to take us back to 20-years-in jail-for-a-joint, I hope The president is trying to change that no matter what the DEA and law n order prosecutors and judges prefer.

        • jim_m

          By militarization of the police people are generally referring to the excessive use of SWAT teams to execute an ever increasing number of arrests, the purchase of armored vehicles and other needless items that have little relation to police work and a lot more to do with controlling the public through threat of force.

          No one is saying anything one way or the other about the laws, this has solely to do with the attitude of the police and their approach to conducting their work.

        • Walter_Cronanty

          Exactly what was it about my comment about the Federal Government, together with local and state, taking away our civil liberties that caused you to veer into a question as to whether I “want to take us back to 20-years-in jail-for-a-joint”?
          If you don’t know what I mean about the militarization of the local police, see Jim M’s reply below.
          And I don’t care what Obama wants, contrary to his, and apparently your, belief, he doesn’t write the laws. His extra-legal forays into dictatorship are one of the most alarming aspects of our ever shrinking civil liberties.
          Have him, for a change, propose a bill for Congress to act on – which he didn’t even have the balls to do for Obamacare.

    • Paul Hooson

      Check out OUTSIDE THE BELTWAY where Rodney Dill also does a weekly caption contest, Steve. The articles there are very scholarly, some penned by very learned lawyers or others, and it draws a nice cross section of civil discussion between moderate conservatives and liberals. It’s a very impressive site with few examples of rudeness.

      Sometimes this site reminds me of the political meltdown over at Polipundit where it turned into some sort of a one-note anti-illegal immigration site for a time, before improving a little to what it is today.

      I’m devoted to keeping good ratings over at Wizbang Pop, but strangely my best written pieces there hardly ever do as well as some nudie piece that I can quickly throw together and pass off as an article. My yearly coverage of the World Nude Bicycle Ride drew big ratings since Saturday, mixing nudity and some journalism and first hand reporting together.

      It seems that Warner is doing most of the heavy lifting here at Wizbang, while I’m doing most of it at Wizbang Pop. That hardly says that either of us are the most qualified or very best writers, but I think both Warner and I put in a good effort on both of Kevin’s sites.

      • SteveCrickmore075

        Paul, now you know why your peeler bar draws in customers? hahah

        • Paul Hooson

          I think I have a real PhD. in female nudity, Steve. I don’t think that Kevin could have ever anointed a greater expert in that area than me to write for Wizbang Pop. LOL!

  • Tape Operator

    You TEA Party zealots are afraid of the war you’re starting.

    You should be.