Wall Street Journal: Supporting Palestinians Means You Are a Blithering Idiot & Immoral, Too

The Wall Street Journal’s Bret Stephens has an excellent, clarifying piece explaining why if you support the so-called Palestinians that you are pretty much a moron, and an immoral moron at that. And he is dead on, too.

In his July 28 piece, “Palestine Makes You Dumb,” Stephens made the salient point that in a war set in an urban area, civilians die. Period. It happened in WWII, it happened in Iraq, it’s happening in Gaza. It is what happens when an enemy hides its facilities among a civilian population.

That latter part is key. Civilians are not dying because Israel is mean and evil. Civilians are dying because Hamas operates among the civilian populace.

Stephens goes on with another extremely important point. He points out that this body count we keep getting of dead Palestinian civilians is most likely completely bogus. Why? Because the media is using the numbers supplied them by… Hamas! The one group that has a vested interest in making sure there is a large civilian death rate–whether there really is one or not–is the one “reporting” those statistics. And the western media is lapping it up.

To cast doubt on the 82 percent civilian deaths statistic Hamas is reporting, Stephens notes that Hamas also reported exactly the same percentage in the 2008-09 Gaza conflict. Gee what a coinicdence, eh?

“When minutely exact statistics are provided in chaotic circumstances, it suggests the statistics are garbage,” Stephens says. “When a news organization relies—without clarification—on data provided by a bureaucratic organ of a terrorist organization, there’s something wrong there, too.”

“A reasonable person might conclude from this that Hamas, which started the war, wants it to continue, and that it relies on Israel’s moral scruples not to destroy civilian sites that it cynically uses for military purposes,” Stephen sensibly says.

Then are these two important, morally based paragraphs noting that this whole incursion is the fault of the so-called Palestinians, not Israel:

Let’s get this one straight. Israel is culpable because (a) it won’t accept a Palestinian government that includes a terrorist organization sworn to the Jewish state’s destruction; (b) it won’t help that organization out of its financial jam; and (c) it won’t ease a quasi-blockade—jointly imposed with Egypt—on a territory whose central economic activity appears to be building rocket factories and pouring imported concrete into terrorist tunnels.

This is either bald moral idiocy or thinly veiled bigotry. It mistakes effect for cause, treats self-respect as arrogance and self-defense as aggression, and makes demands of the Jewish state that would be dismissed out of hand anywhere else. To argue the Palestinian side, in this war, is to make the case for barbarism. It is to erase, in the name of humanitarianism, the moral distinctions from which the concept of humanity arises.

Exactly right.

So, the upshot is, if you support the Palis, you are an immoral cretin who supports terrorism, lies, and murder. On top of that you aren’t very intelligent.

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  • Retired military

    “This is either bald moral idiocy or thinly veiled bigotry. It mistakes effect for cause, treats self-respect as arrogance and self-defense as aggression, and makes demands of the Jewish state that would be dismissed out of hand anywhere else. To argue the Palestinian side, in this war, is to make the case for barbarism. It is to erase, in the name of humanitarianism, the moral distinctions from which the concept of humanity arises.”
    Call Chico aisle 1 calling Chico aisle 1

    • jim_m

      Bruce should be answering that call too.

    • Commander_Chico

      Remember the Liberty.

      • Retired military

        You wouldnt know Lliberty if it reached up and bit you in the ass.

        • Commander_Chico

          I mean the USS Liberty, destroyed in a perfidious attack:

          http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/

          http://www.gtr5.com/

          Wake up, if you are an American.

          • Walter_Cronanty
          • Commander_Chico

            I am with the Liberty veterans, the ones who were there and lived through the attack:

            http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/10000challenge.html

            $10,000 Challenge

            The Liberty Veterans Association offers a $10,000 reward to anyone who can establish the truth of A. Jay Cristol’s claim:

            “After ten official US investigations (including five congressional investigations), there was never any evidence that the attack was made with knowledge that the target was a US ship.”

            The LVA has disputed the truth of this statement for years. We know it is untrue. The claim that there have been any official Congressional investigations into the culpability for the Israeli attack on USS Liberty is patently false. There have been NO official Congressional investigations on this subject. We believe that the best way to prove that the above statement is untrue is to offer a reward to anyone (including Mr. Cristol) who can prove that it is true.

            Address responses to challenge@usslibertyveterans.org.

            The challenge has been offered since March 1, 2004, with no takers.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Nice group you’ve thrown your support to:

            “It all started with former Illinois Congressman Paul Findley (who was defeated for re-election after he announced his support for the terrorist organization, the PLO) and former California Congressman Paul “Pete” McCloskey, also defeated for re-election. McCloskey speaks regularly at meetings of Holocaust denial organizations in California and Washington.

            Findley and McCloskey were the moving force in founding the Liberty Veterans Association. Findley served as its adviser, and McCloskey incorporated the association and served as its attorney. They continue to manipulate and distress Liberty survivors and their families by prodding this old wound and preventing its healing, all for their own political agenda. And what is that agenda? Findley and McCloskey are also the founders of the Council for the National Interest (CNI), whose publicly announced purpose is to be the anti-Israel lobby.”

            http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/viewpoints/articles/0715cristol0715.html?&wired

          • Commander_Chico

            In 2003, an independent commission of highly regarded experts was created to look into the matter. The Commission consisted of Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, United States Navy (Ret.), Former Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff; General Raymond G. Davis, United States Marine Corps, (MOH), Former Assistant Commandant of The Marine Corps; Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, United States Navy (Ret.), Former Judge Advocate General Of The Navy; and Ambassador James Akins (Ret.), Former United States Ambassador to Saudi Arabia.

            The “Moorer Commission” (Chaired by Adm. Moorer) investigated the attack and made the following findings:

            “We, the undersigned, having undertaken an independent investigation of Israel’s attack on USS Liberty, including eyewitness testimony from surviving crew members, a review of naval and other official records, an examination of official statements by the Israeli and American governments, a study of the conclusions of all previous official inquiries, and a consideration of important new evidence and recent statements from individuals having direct knowledge of the attack or the cover up, hereby find the following:

            1. That on June 8, 1967, after eight hours of aerial surveillance, Israel launched a two-hour air and naval attack against USS Liberty, the world’s most sophisticated intelligence ship, inflicting 34 dead and 173 wounded American servicemen (a casualty rate of seventy percent, in a crew of 294);

            2. That the Israeli air attack lasted approximately 25 minutes, during which time unmarked Israeli aircraft dropped napalm canisters on USS Liberty’s bridge, and fired 30mm cannons and rockets into our ship, causing 821 holes, more than 100 of which were rocket-size; survivors estimate 30 or more sorties were flown over the ship by a minimum of 12 attacking Israeli planes which were jamming all five American emergency radio channels;

            3. That the torpedo boat attack involved not only the firing of torpedoes, but the machine-gunning of Liberty’s firefighters and stretcher-bearers as they struggled to save their ship and crew; the Israeli torpedo boats later returned to machine-gun at close range three of the Liberty’s life rafts that had been lowered into the water by survivors to rescue the most seriously wounded;

            4. That there is compelling evidence that Israel’s attack was a deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill her entire crew; evidence of such intent is supported by statements from Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Undersecretary of State George Ball, former CIA director Richard Helms, former NSA directors Lieutenant General William Odom, USA (Ret.), Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, USN (Ret.), and Marshal Carter; former NSA deputy directors Oliver Kirby and Major General John Morrison, USAF (Ret.); and former Ambassador Dwight Porter, U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon in 1967;

            5. That in attacking USS Liberty, Israel committed acts of murder against American servicemen and an act of war against the United States;

            6. That fearing conflict with Israel, the White House deliberately prevented the U.S. Navy from coming to the defense of USS Liberty by recalling Sixth Fleet military rescue support while the ship was under attack; evidence of the recall of rescue aircraft is supported by statements of Captain Joe Tully, Commanding Officer of the aircraft carrier USS Saratoga, and Rear Admiral Lawrence Geis, the Sixth Fleet carrier division commander, at the time of the attack; never before in American naval history has a rescue mission been cancelled when an American ship was under attack;

            7. That although Liberty was saved from almost certain destruction through the heroic efforts of the ship’s Captain, William L. McGonagle (MOH), and his brave crew, surviving crew members were later threatened with “court-martial, imprisonment or worse” if they exposed the truth; and were abandoned by their own government;

            8. That due to the influence of Israel’s powerful supporters in the United States, the White House deliberately covered up the facts of this attack from the American people;

            9. That due to continuing pressure by the pro-Israel lobby in the United States, this attack remains the only serious naval incident that has never been thoroughly investigated by Congress; to this day, no surviving crew member has been permitted to officially and publicly testify about the attack;

            10. That there has been an official cover-up without precedent in American naval history; the existence of such a cover-up is now supported by statements of Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, USN (Ret.), former Judge Advocate General of the Navy; and Captain Ward Boston, USN, (Ret.), the chief counsel to the Navy’s 1967 Court of Inquiry of Liberty attack;

            11. That the truth about Israel’s attack and subsequent White House cover-up continues to be officially concealed from the American people to the present day and is a national disgrace;

            12. That a danger to our national security exists whenever our elected officials are willing to subordinate American interests to those of any foreign nation, and specifically are unwilling to challenge Israel’s interests when they conflict with American interests; this policy, evidenced by the failure to defend USS Liberty and the subsequent official cover-up of the Israeli attack, endangers the safety of Americans and the security of the United States.

            WHEREUPON, we, the undersigned, in order to fulfill our duty to the brave crew of USS Liberty and to all Americans who are asked to serve in our Armed Forces, hereby call upon the Department of the Navy, the Congress of the United States and the American people to immediately take the following actions:

            FIRST: That a new Court of Inquiry be convened by the Department of the Navy, operating with Congressional oversight, to take public testimony from surviving crew members; and to thoroughly investigate the circumstances of the attack on the USS Liberty, with full cooperation from the National Security Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency and the military intelligence services, and to determine Israel’s possible motive in launching said attack on a U.S. naval vessel;

            SECOND: That every appropriate committee of the Congress of the United States investigate the actions of the White House and Defense Department that prevented the rescue of the USS Liberty, thereafter threatened her surviving officers and men if they exposed the truth, and covered up the true circumstances of the attack from the American people; and

            THIRD: That the eighth day of June of every year be proclaimed to be hereafter known as

            USS LIBERTY REMEMBRANCE DAY, in order to commemorate USS Liberty’s heroic crew; and to educate the American people of the danger to our national security inherent in any passionate attachment of our elected officials for any foreign nation.

            We, the undersigned, hereby affix our hands and seals, this 22nd day of October, 2003.

            Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, USN, Ret.
            Former Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff

            General of Marines Raymond G. Davis, USMC, MOH

            Former Commandant of the United States Marine Corps

            Merlin Staring
            Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, USN, Ret.,
            Former Judge Advocate General of the Navy,

            James Akins
            Ambassador James Akins, Ret.,
            Former United States Ambassador to Saudi Arabia

            http://www.gtr5.com/about.htm

          • Walter_Cronanty

            This non-governmental, “independent commission” was set up by Moorer who had been critical of US policy, and which included a former Ambassador to Saudi Arabia, and it came up with conclusions that squared with Moorer’s pre-conceived ideas.

          • Commander_Chico

            Yeah right they are all anti Semites, the veterans, Admiral Moorer, yadayada.

            One guy – Jay Cristol got it all right of course.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Well, if the “one guy” who got it right was Admiral Stansfield Turner, then Director of CIA, you’re right:

            “On 19 Sep 1977, the Director of Central Intelligence appeared on the ABC television program Good Morning America and stated it was the considered opinion of the CIA that the Israeli government had no knowledge of the USS Liberty prior to the attack. After being broadcast to about twenty million viewers, the CIA immediately classified their transcript of the interview and did not declassify it until 28 Jan 1985.

            On 27 Feb 1978, the Director of Central Intelligence responded by letter to five questions put to the agency by Senator James Abourezk. In response to question 5:

            Finally, could I have your judgment and that of the Agency you head, based on information acquired by the Agency from all sources, that the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was deliberate or an honest mistake?

            Admiral Stansfield Turner, Director of Central Intelligence, responded:

            It remains our best judgment that the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was not made in malice toward the United States and was a mistake.”

            http://www.thelibertyincident.com/cia.html

          • Commander_Chico

            The guy who was CIA director at the time, Richard Helms, thought it was deliberate:

            A LOOK OVER MY SHOULDER:
            A Life in the Central Intelligence Agency

            By Richard Helms with William Hood, Random House 2003

            Book available at http://www.amazon.com and most other book stores.

            Richard Helms was the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 1966-1973.

            An excerpt from Pages 300/301 of the Helms book:

            One of the most disturbing incidents in the six days [war between Israel and the surrounding Arab states] came on the morning of June 8[, 1967] when the Pentagon flashed(urgent top-priority precedence) a message that the U.S.S. Liberty, an unarmed U.S. Navy communications(spy) ship, was under attack in the Mediterranean, and that American fighters had been scrambled to defend the ship….

            …. The following urgent reports showed that Israeli jet fighters and torpedo boats had launched the attack. The seriously damaged Liberty remained afloat, with thirty-four dead and more than a hundred wounded members of the crew.

            Israeli authorities subsequently apologized for the accident, but few in Washington could believe that the ship had not been identified as an American naval vessel. Later, an interim intelligence memorandum concluded that the attack was a mistake and “not made in malice against the U.S.” When additional evidence was available, more doubt was raised….

            … This prompted my Deputy, Admiral Rufus Taylor, to write me his view of the incident. “To me, the picture thus far presents the distinct possibility that the Israelis knew that the Liberty might be their target and attacked anyway, either through confusion in Command and Control or through deliberate disregard of instructions on the part of subordinates.”

            The day after the attack, President Johnson, bristling with irritation, said to me, “The New York Times put that attack on the Liberty on an inside page. It should have been on the front page!”

            I had no role in the board of inquiry that followed, or the board’s finding that there could be no doubt that the Israeli’s knew exactly what they were doing in attacking the Liberty. I have yet to understand why it was felt necessary to attack this ship or who ordered the attack.

            http://www.ussliberty.org/helmstext.htm

          • Retired military

            Generally if someone doesnt claim a 10k reward it means that there is no evidence to claim it.
            Sorta like the 100k challenged that was offered if someone could prove that the tea party protestors spit on black congressmen/women. Not one shred of proof has come to life.

          • Retired military

            I knew what you were referring to Dumbass. I simply chose to make a true statement

  • alanstorm

    “Supporting Palestinians Means You Are a Blithering Idiot & Immoral, Too”

    Other breaking news: Water Wet. Heat Hot.

  • Brucehenry
    • Retired military

      Vs Hamas hiding bombs in UN schools, using kids as suicide bombers and saying that their number 1 objective is the destruction of Israel.
      No difference between them at all. Not a smidgen.

      • Brucehenry

        None of this info really debunks the debunking Erekat has done.

        It always amuses me that in the eyes of those who support Likud, IDF supporters are tough, steely-eyed realists but those whose sympathies lie with Palestine are “biased.”

        Looks like you didn’t read the link I posted.

        • Retired military

          Actually I did Bruce.
          Again. It doesn’t really show anything. Whereas if you look at the background of the author it shows a clear bias. That plus the fact that news sources that are definitely not right wing biased show that Israel is getting attacked by Hamas and that Hamas wants to destroy Israel
          You have not provided one shred of proof that anything that I posted about Hamas is not true. Not only that Bruce you didn’t even deny it.

    • alanstorm

      “Except that not every claim made by Israel is necessarily Gospel.”

      Do you have a point? Do you insist that all persons and organizations you support be pure as the driven snow?

      P.S: If you’re trying to make some kind of point, it helps to quote a serious magazine. I agree, The Nation isn’t nearly as funny as it used to be, but it’s still not very serious. The article is short on facts, heavy on assertions that they devoutly hope their readers won’t question.

  • Commander_Chico

    Bret Stephens? That guy is neocon lapdog of Israel number one.

    Was there a neocon position he ever did not support? Bomb Iran? Check the chickenhawk box there.

    Citing Bret Stephens on Israel is like citing James Carville on Hillary Clinton.

    The guy works for Israel, not the United States. Chico says: America first, remember the Liberty.

    • Retired military

      But of course citing Erekat on Israel as Bruce as done is perfectly okay and not an issue with the Chico meister is it.

      • Commander_Chico

        There’s no disputing that the USA is forking over billions of dollars a year to a country that has bit our feeding hand several times.

        • Retired military

          Oh you mean like every other nation on earth. I mean Israel sees the US on behalf of Obama as providing support and comfort to Hamas and isnt supposed to say anything.
          Gee we are the main support of the UN and they report us as one of the main violoaters of human rights. Nothing to see here folks. Move right along.

          • Commander_Chico

            Our tax dollars at work, creating hate against us for the sake of Israeli settler land-grabbers:

            http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/18/article-2697019-1FC2413000000578-474_964x691.jpg

          • Retired military

            Oh give me a freaking break. Maybe if Hamas didnt put rockets in UN schools and their leaders command center in a hospital then this wouldnt happen.
            You are nothing but a tool Chico. Always have been and always will be.
            I ask you the same thing I asked Bruce.
            Show me a statement from a HAMAS leader within the last 2 years that says a solution can be found without the destruciton of Israel.
            Why is Hamas using money and resources to stockpile rockets and build tunnels rather than to improve the lives of their citizens?
            Disprove the news stories that Hamas is hiding rockets in UN schools.

          • Texas_Accountant

            Is this a picture of Gaza or Syria? I need to know which one – so I know whether to be “morally outraged.” (Not my original quote)

  • Paul Hooson

    Radicals inflict great harm on the people they claim to love. True moderate leadership would have advanced very positive relations with Israel that would have resulted in the economic and social advancement of the average Palestinian by now. Hamas spent way too much time building tunnels for terror and hoarding rockets, and way too little effort encouraging business development and economic and social advancement growth. – This reminds me too much of the failed revolutionaries that overthrew Cuba in 1959, and have been dictators ever since, and enslaved the population of Cuba in a poor economy, isolated from trade with the U.S. and condemned most people to trying to survive on $20 a month, when more pragmatic Communists in China have improved the minimum wage to around $2 a hour in many factories and filled store shelves with vast amounts of consumer goods to purchase.

    • http://www.rustedsky.net JLawson

      But it’s about the ideology, and the purity of their goals. So what if half the Palestinians are killed by Hamas? Who really cares if their human shields are killed? If it makes the civilized people blanch, and hesitate, then that’s a tactical advantage that MUST be taken.

      That they would get far more by cooperation with Israel isn’t even a factor.

      • jim_m

        The only unethical use of means is the non-use of means. – Saul Alinsky.

        • http://www.rustedsky.net JLawson

          Ridicule is important…

  • Commander_Chico
    • Walter_Cronanty

      Got any pictures of the over 160 “kids” killed in building Hamas’ tunnels?

      • Commander_Chico

        Far outnumbered by deaths by Israeli bombs, even if it’s not just Israeli propaganda BS.

        • Retired military

          Israeli bombs which drop on sites of rocket launchers which are targetting their cities and their citizens and deliberately placed near and in civilian areas to include schools and hospitals to increase the civilian death count.
          Geez Chico. So little honesty so much gullibility on your part.

        • Walter_Cronanty

          Good Lord, Chico. You’re defending Hamas’ killing of children to build its military facilities. Have you completely lost your mind?

          • Retired military

            WHat do you mean by already? Was there any doubt? After all one of Chico’s options is DA JOOS.

          • Commander_Chico

            Where is the source of that claim?

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Gaza’s Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel’s Siege says that little had been done to stop the phenomenon of child labor during the digging of the tunnels by Hamas in Gaza.

            In December 2011, the paper’s author Nicolas Pelham accompanied a police patrol in Gaza and reported that “nothing was done to impede the use of children in the tunnels, where, much as in Victorian coal mines, they are prized for their nimble bodies.”

            He continued and said that “at least 160 children have been killed in the tunnels, according to Hamas officials.”

            http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/At-least-160-children-died-digging-tunnels-for-Hamas-369138

            See, also, “Thus, the Journal of Palestine Studies (edited by President Obama’s pro-Palestinian friend Rashid Khalidi) reported in 2012 that Hamas uses children to help dig tunnels into Israel. The finding appears in a paper called Gaza’s Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel’s Siege.”

            http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/07/report-at-least-160-children-died-digging-hamas-tunnels.php

            Here’s the link for the paper itself: http://palestine-studies.org/journals.aspx?id=11424&jid=1&href=fulltext

          • Retired military

            Now Walter you know the Jerusalem post isnt a good source for ProHamas news. Therefore Chico thoroughly disregards it.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Well, Chico can lie about the Jerusalem Post, but he’s going to have do some real contortions/distortions of logic and facts to discredit the source of the 160 children killed building Hamas’ tunnels. That number was published in the Journal of Palestine Studies Vol: 41, no. 4, Summer 2012.
            According to that publication, its Editor is Rashid I. Khalidi.

            http://palestine-studies.org/journals.aspx?href=issue&jid=1&iid=164

            Rashid I. Khalidi, in turn, has been described by the LA Times as a critic of Israel and an advocate for Palestinians – and a real pal of Obama’s: “CHICAGO — It was a celebration of Palestinian culture — a night of music, dancing and a dash of politics. Local Arab Americans were bidding farewell to Rashid Khalidi, an internationally known scholar, critic of Israel and advocate for Palestinian rights, who was leaving town for a job in New York.

            A special tribute came from Khalidi’s friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi’s wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking.”

            http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/10/nation/na-obamamideast10

    • Retired military

      Did the Hamas guy shoot the kid in the back right before this picture was taken Chico?

      Is this a selfie of you Chico?

      And media.worldbulletin.net ??? Where did you dig that one up. Maybe I will start replying to you with Newsmax stories.

    • Paul Hooson

      This is terrible. as Israel only should target locations from which a rocket is fired from or destroy the terror tunnels, because bad intelligence information is resulting in a unacceptable high number of civilian dead and only further radicalizing the Palestinian population.

      Further, I am disappointed that the U.S. is quickly moving to rearm the Israeli military, as this should be strictly limited to defensive weapons such as The Iron Dome parts, and not offensive weapons because of way too many civilian deaths in comparison to Hamas terrorists.

      • Retired military

        Maybe Hamas shouldnt have civilians in the area to deliberately increase civilian casualties. Oh there’s a thought.

        • Paul Hooson

          I agree, but that’s how they radicalize the people….throw the same people they claim to love under a bus to boost their political sympathy.

      • LiberalNightmare

        I suppose all of the missiles fired by Hamas have resulted in an ‘acceptable’ amount of civilian casualties.

        • jim_m

          of course, they were all Jews.

  • Hank_M

    Gotta admit, I find it interesting that this seems to come down to left vs right
    with respect to whether or not someone expresses anti or pro israeli views/support.

    Seems to me that Israeli society is one the left would embrace when one considers how Palestinians treat homosexuals and women. (at least according to wiki). As for the deaths of palestinian children being a rallying cry, wouldn’t be an issue if they had all been aborted.

    Nope, there’s got to be another reason the left hates Israel so much.
    Just can’t put my finger on it…..

    • Commander_Chico

      There are many people on the right who are skeptical about US support for Israel. Read The American Conservative.

      • alanstorm

        Do you have a point? Are you working with Brucie?

    • Retired military

      “wouldn’t be an issue if they had all been aborted.”
      Yeah liike all the hispanic/guatamaleon/venezualeon children coming across the southern border. If women had chosen abortion the left would have stood up and cheered. But now since they are future democrat voters they have to be cared for and nurtured by the state.

  • Retired military

    Bruce / Chico

    Why is Hamas bobby trapping tunnels in UN CLINICS?
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/3-idf-soldiers-killed-in-booby-trapped-unrwa-clinic/#!

    3 IDF soldiers killed in booby-trapped UNRWA clinic.

    Forces were trying to safeguard building before demolishing a tunnel there when device exploded, also injuring 15 other troops

    With the amount of concrete Hamas poured into the tunnel project, two hospitals, 20 schools, 20 healthcare centers, and 100 kindergartens could have been built, he said.

    So Israeli soldiers died while trying to safegaurd a UN clinic from a Hamas booby trap. Meanwhile schools, hospitals, and clincis are not being built in Gaza.
    Where is your outrage at Hamas?

    • Texas_Accountant

      “where is your outrage at Hamas?” – he left it in Syria?

      • Commander_Chico

        Syrian kids killed by whom? The government or the ISIS rebels we trained and equipped?

        • Retired military

          Well since ISIS didn’t exist until a year or so ago Obama is too blame for arming them.

          • Paul Hooson

            ISIS funding has actually come from Saudi Arabia and the arms that ISIS has been using appear to be from the Saudi purchase of arms from Croatia. American made equipment like tanks given to the Iraqi Army have been destroyed with weapons that come from Saudi Arabia by way of Croatia.

            This Croatian-made grenade launcher used by ISIS is a good example right here.

        • Texas_Accountant

          Does it matter? The kids are still dead.

          • Retired military

            It only matters to Chico if Israelis killed them or if they were aborted.
            If they were aborted they don’t count. Kind of Ironic that Chico is now the minder of dead children but is whole hog proabortion.
            The children only count for some lefties when they can be used politically.

          • Commander_Chico

            it mostly matters if my tax dollars and my government are killing them. that is what I allegedly have some say in.

          • Retired military

            Then why arent you posting these photos Chico? After all your tax dollars and your govt killed them. Or are you saying that it is only okay to kill children if you agree with it? Come come. That wasnt in your outrage earlier.

            https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+of+aborted+babies&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=8kDaU662HKTesATurILgAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1755&bih=855

          • Rdmurphy42

            Your tax dollars are going to Hamas as well. Does that mean you are upset about the Israeli deaths caused by those tax dollars? I find it amazing how in pretty much every single conflict some on the left will twist themselves into pretzels to find a way to support unabashed evil by pointing out minor blemishes on the other side.

    • Walter_Cronanty

      Right where their outrage is when an overreaching executive thumbs its nose at the First Amendment.

  • Retired military

    Chico

    Next time you want to talk about taxpayers funding the killing of children try posting some of these pictures.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+of+aborted+babies&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=8kDaU662HKTesATurILgAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1755&bih=855

  • http://wizbangblog.com/author/rodney-graves/ Rodney G. Graves

    And sure enough, all of our immoral blithering idiots have put in an appearance in support of Hamas.

    • jim_m

      In support of murdering Jews. Call it what it is.

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