Clueless: Obama to Fight Against ‘Violent Extremism,’ Not Islamic Terror

Obama refuses to identify what we really face in radical Islam and his newest, time-wasting “summit” is yet another example of that. With his announcement the president said that his summit will explore ways to oppose “violent extremism” as if that “extremism” is divorced from Islam.

In fact, it’s worse than merely using a euphemism in place of “Islam.” In the announcement Obama’s surrogate Attorney General Eric Holder said he intends to find ways to fight “violent extremism around the world” as if there were various forms of “violent extremism” troubling the world when, in fact, it is only Islam that is troubling the world.

Holder clarified this further on ABC over the weekend saying that that the west needs to find “better ways to counter violent extremism.”

He refused to say that Islam was the root cause, instead saying that we are not at war with Islam but rather “at war with those who would commit terrorist attacks and corrupt the Islamic faith in the way that they do to justify their terrorist actions.”

“Our president has indicated that on Feb. 18 we will be hosting a summit where we try to find better ways to counter violent extremism, to prevent people from adhering to or being attracted to this terrorist ideology,” Holder spun. “We certainly have to work in a dual way: confront and hold people accountable, but also find an attractive counter-narrative.”

So, it isn’t radical Islam we face, it is only a “terrorist ideology.”

What the heck is a “terrorist ideology”?

Well, it isn’t Islam, at least according to Obama and his ilk.

Of course, from past actions, we know that Obama places Republicans and conservatives on the list of those holding a “terrorist ideology.”

Several times since President Obama stepped into the White House, the federal government has said variously that conservatives, returning members of the military, and members of the tea party are terrorists.

So, if you are an American patriot, Obama and his administration thinks you are just as apt as Islamists to have that “terrorist ideology.”

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  • jim_m

    Like OJ, obama is searching every golf course to root out extremism.

  • Hank_M

    So Obama has called a summit? What’s next, a blue ribbon commission?
    Talk isn’t going to solve this but let’s be honest. Obama doesn’t want this solved.
    He’s made it abundantly clear where his allegiance is, it’s to the Islamic faith.

  • Walter_Cronanty

    As I’ve said many times, when Obama began his political career in the living room of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, he was meeting with more documented terrorists than exist in the Tea Party.

    Interesting question – would the armed take over of an abandoned ROTC facility be considered violent extremism? How about for the purpose of renaming the facility after a man who believed in a nation separate from the United States, you know, sort of like the Confederacy? If so, maybe when he meets with Eric Holder, Obama is meeting with more terrorists than exist in the Tea Party:

    “Eric Holder himself personally participated in an armed takeover of an ROTC office at Columbia University in the 1970s as part of his participation in the black consciousness movement.”

    http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/147597-holder-terrorism-committee/

    From the webpage of Columbia’s Black Students’ Organization:

    Armed with guns, the students took over Hamilton Hall, and locked the building from the inside. After some time in Hamilton, the black students told the white sympathizers, many of whom were members of Students for a Democratic Society, to leave and contribute by taking over other buildings on campus. They did, effectively shutting down the university. The President of the university ordered the NYPD to smother the protest by force, aided by white athletes and members of the ROTC. Ironically it was the white students in other buildings who bore the brunt of the police storming. Had the police broken into Hamilton, they may have suffered casualties at the hands of the sisters and brothers inside.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20100926031018/http://www.columbiabso.org/?page_id=118

    See, also, http://www.gq.com/news-politics/politics/201012/eric-holder-attorney-general-rahm-emanuel-white-house-elections?printable=true

    “It wasn’t until Holder arrived at Colum­bia University in the fall of 1969 that he connected with four other African-American students who could relate to his somewhat prismatic experience. On weeknights, they studied until the small hours; on weekends, they delved into the Harlem scene and immersed themselves in the activism of the times—marching in the streets for housing and education, coaching a youth football team, mentoring kids in the Manhattan Valley projects. “We took over the ROTC lounge in Hartley Hall and created the Malcolm X Lounge,” says Steve Sims, laughing.

  • Brucehenry

    Warner, you kill me with your insistence that the President must use the rhetoric and terminology that YOU deem appropriate.

    If you want a president who parrots the Tea Party or the neocon line, elect Ted Cruz. He somehow manages to be both.

    • Walter_Cronanty

      I don’t know about Warner, but I’d like a President who is as tough on Islamic terrorists as he is on those who believe in the US Constitution.

      • Brucehenry

        Wonder what the ghosts of Osama bin Laden and Anwar Al-Awlaki would say about that?

        Do you think Obama is gonna drone this dude?

        http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-c,2849/

        • jim_m

          No, because he isn’t real. Apparently, you have yet to realize that The Onion is satire.

          • Brucehenry

            No shit? Damn, is my face red or what?

        • Walter_Cronanty

          If he isn’t resolute enough to call Islamic terrorists, what they are, Islamic terrorists, the war, such as it is, is lost.

          • Brucehenry

            See my reply to Jim below. Presidents must be prudent in their choice of words.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Just as misguided.

          • jim_m

            Your claim amounts to suggesting the obama should never take any positions because he should never allow himself to be criticized for taking a stand.

            You’re just excusing his epic cowardice. No wonder you and Chico like him so much.

          • Brucehenry

            I love how you’re always telling me what my “claim amounts to.” You can’t fucking read.

            I guarantee you that the video clip of Bush calling for a “crusade,” with Arabic subtitles, is still in wide circulation. It has inflamed the situation for almost 14 years. It would have been better had Bush refrained from inflammatory language, but he was TOO FUCKING STUPID to realize how damaging such a remark would be. Obama isn’t.

            Neither are his supporters but jingo-shouting Bushies, who are the driving force behind this “Why won’t Obama call a spade a spade?” bullshit, apparently ARE stupid enough to wish for a president who goes around aggravating the situation.

          • jim_m

            I tell you because you can’t think. You never bother to consider how inconsistent and hypocritical your beliefs are.

          • jim_m

            There is more damage created by the obvious and incredibly ignorant pronouncement that terrorists are not muslims. It shows the terrorists that he is afraid of them and weak.

            It shows the people that the terrorists are recruiting that obama is stupid and weak and cowardly and afraid to call them what they are.

            It shows our allies that he is unserious about the problem and unwilling to address it directly.

            It shows Americans that he is not concerned with our safety and more interested in using terrorism as an excuse to crack down on political dissent rather than addressing the real issue.

            Does that make it clear enough for you, you freaking tool?

          • Commander_Chico

            Bush fucked everything up. On 9/11, there was a small group of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

            Now, it’s a worldwide movement controlling lots of territory.

            What a fool he was!

          • jim_m

            You are a fool if you think that ignoring al qaeda after 9/11 was the solution to getting rid of them.

            Remember, your Lord and Savior said that al Qaeda was on the run. Military casualties were down to single digits per month when Bush left. obama with his cut and run strategy resurrected al qaeda and helped spur their growth.

          • Commander_Chico

            As I said before, we needed Michael Corleone – calmly and quietly taking out the perpetrators of 9/11 and their supporters (including Saudis).

            Instead we got a mix of Fredo and Sonny Corleone flailing and fucking things up.

          • jim_m

            I’ll buy that Obama is Fredo. A traitorous incompetent is almost too accurate of a depiction.

          • ND52

            Please tell me how you help things when you use a bazooka to kill a nest of bees that you found on the side of your neighbor’s house.

          • jim_m

            You get rid of the bees and if the neighbor is someone like you or Bruce, you get rid of an asshole too.

          • ND52

            Along with whatever women and children are inside of the house right? Lol! You are such a tool……….

          • jim_m

            Well if they share genetic material with you they really qualify as people so it’s not much of a loss.

          • ND52

            Well, at least you’re a consistent tool. Now have another beer and go back to beating your wife.

          • Retired military

            And Chico goes with Option B.
            Obama is bad but XXXX is worse.

          • The inability of this administration to call our enemies what they are will indeed prevent this administration from prosecuting the war against them effectively.

            Shortly after January of 2017 I expect the prospects for successful prosecution of the war to change.

      • ND52

        Last time we asked for that we got the Iraq War @Walter_Cronanty:disqus

    • jim_m

      No Bruce. It’s about being willing to call something for what it is.
      obama has never and will never call islam out for producing these
      terrorists. it’s a serious character flaw and we see it graphically when
      obama refuses to join many world leaders and most of our allies in a
      demonstration of unity against islamic terrorism.

      You are a fool for not seeing this.

      • Brucehenry

        Yeah like I said, insisting that the guy you DIDN’T vote for use the same words and phrases the guy you DID vote for might use.

        There were 40 world leaders in the march in Paris. That leaves about 160 or so who didn’t march. I bet the march would have gone so much more smoothly had Obama and about 200 Secret Service agents participated.

        • jim_m

          Let’s not pretend that obama was a no show out of the goodness of his heart.

          Let’s also not pretend that those 40 world leaders weren’t 40 of our most significant allies.

          And finally, let’s not pretend that they all didn’t notice that we sent no one and instead sent the message that we could not be relied upon to make any significant commitment on addressing muslim terror.

          In fact obama re-emphasized that fact by his announcement which failed to even acknowledge that islam has anything to do with terrorism and basically underlined the fact that he will do nothing to address the problem.

          Words mean things you ignorant ass. Words convey meaning and intent. People pay attention to what you say and do. obama sends the clear signal that he cares about no one but himself, nothing but golf and will do nothing to help our allies and will most likely betray them if it means maintaining his tee time.

          • Brucehenry

            Failing to show up for a street march is “sending a message we could not be relied upon to make any significant commitment on addressing Muslim terror”?

            OK

            The president of the US must choose his words carefully. They will be translated into many different languages and if the word “Islam” is included, an incompetent or malicious translator could twist certain phrases into an attack on a religion a billion people passionately adhere to.

            Yes, Islamic terrorists are responsible for almost all the political violence occurring these days. These guys can also be fairly called “violent extremists” with somewhat less risk of a mistranslation offending hundreds of millions and possibly worsening matters.

            Let hotheads like McCain and Miss Lindsey Graham spout a lot of xenophobic scaremongery. The President of the United States must be more measured.

            Like I said, if you want a belligerent, swaggering jingo-spouter, elect the next president.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            “The president of the US must choose his words carefully. They will be translated into many different languages and if the word “Islam” is included, an incompetent or malicious translator could twist certain phrases into an attack on a religion a billion people passionately adhere to.”
            That is the most insipid excuse for a lack of balls I’ve ever heard. You make Neville Chamberlain look like Churchill.

          • Brucehenry

            Sure, and you make Bluto from the Popeye cartoons look like him.

          • Retired military

            Bluto ?? I thought that was Obama.

          • Brucehenry

            Perhaps you remember when forthright manlyman George W Bush blurted out a mouthfart about how the US was gonna lead a “crusade” back in 2001.

            Unhelpful.

          • jim_m

            I see. So when obama makes an ass of himself nobody pays attention but when Bush does it is certainly an international embarrassment. You’re such a freaking hypocrite.

          • Brucehenry

            Except Obama DIDN’T make an ass of himself, except in the eyes of armchair warriors like yourself.

          • jim_m

            Um, read the newspapers or watch the TV lately? Everyone is criticizing obama for his no show in Paris. Even his admin has admitted it was a mistake. Only idiot sycophants who dream of licking his anus like you do are still defending him on this.

          • Brucehenry

            More homoeroticism from manlyman Jim.

          • Retired military

            And in the area of healthcare (after all we fought and won WW2 in less time than it took Obama to have a fucked up website costing a billion dollars put on the web).
            in the area of Libya using WMD
            in the area of closing Gitmo in a year
            in the area of IRS not being used for political purposes,
            And the list goes on and on and on

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Your comment had to do with “an incompetent or malicious translator” twisting Obama’s words. Utter rubbish. That could happen if he, as he often does, tells us that Islam a religion of peace.
            Following your logic, he should say nothing at all, lest some nefarious translator twists our Orator in Chief’s words.
            I guess maybe Obama is following your logic. We now have the putative leader of the free world neutered in the corner, being silent because he’s afraid he’ll piss off some already unhinged barbarian because some other unhinged barbarian negligently or intentionally mis-translates his words.
            Your argument means we should never say anything, no matter what heinous crime is committed in Islam’s name – so I guess Paris was just another case of work place violence.

          • Brucehenry

            Jim-logic and Jim-like insertion of words in my mouth.

            What Obama is probably trying to avoid is needlessly adding fuel to the fire. Whether he calls them “Islamic terrorists” or “violent extremists,” US warplanes are leading the air war on ISIS, many terrorist leaders have died on the business end of US drone attacks, and the US remains essential in the fight.

            What we don’t see is the US President acting like a cowboy, cluelessly jabbering about “crusades” or “Dead or Alive” wanted posters. This is a GOOD thing, despite jingo-shouters casting the struggle in sexual terms (“neutered in the corner”) and generally wishing the president would act like some kind of swaggering high school bully.

          • Retired military

            “The president of the US must choose his words carefully. ”
            So what is Obama’s excuse for
            Average family savings will be $2500 under Obamacare.
            I read about (pick any one of 7 ior 8 things ) in the newspaper
            if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan. Period.
            If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor period.
            If (pick any one of 5 or 6 things) is true than I am outraged.
            Maybe Obama should worry about offending Americans first with his lies before offending folks in other countries.

    • MartinLandauCalrissian

      Your point is sort of ridiculous, actually. So, I take it that from here on out you’ll never criticize a politician you don’t support because SOMEBODY elected them? Seriously…. what is your point?

      • Brucehenry

        My point is that the President of the United States can’t, or shouldn’t, speak in terms of foreign policy like Jim speaks in the Wizbang comment section.

        Chickenhawks and armchair warriors want us to believe that truculence and bellicosity is the same thing as strength and resolve. It ain’t, but wannabe manlymen calling people cowards from the safety of their keyboards don’t know the difference.

        • Retired military

          “My point is that the President of the United States can’t, or shouldn’t, speak in terms of foreign policy like Jim speaks in the Wizbang comment section”
          Because unlike Jim Obama lies about just about everything.

    • jim_m

      Bingo Bruce. You and the Coward in Chief, obama, are willing to name the TEA Party as extremists but both of you are unwilling to name islamic terrorists as extremists. Namely because you both refuse to call them islamic terrorists.

      You can’t defeat and enemy you refuse to name. There are serious questions as to whether or not obama even wants to defeat the islamists.

      • Brucehenry

        Kook.

        “There are serious questions as to whether or not obama even wants to defeat the islamists.” Yes, Jerome Corsi and Alex Jones seriously ask that question every day. And now you do too! It’s a fucking groundswell! Questions swirl……

        Your whole complaint has been Obama’s reluctance to call “violent extremists” anything but “violent extremists.” Now you are saying he HASN’T called them “violent extremists?”

        The Tea Party can be called extremists in relative terms of US politics. Islamic terrorists are “VIOLENT extremists” that are extreme in any context.

        • Walter_Cronanty

          What is it exactly that makes the Tea Party extremist?

          • Retired military

            They don’t agree with Obama’s point of view. Oh wait that means they are racist and extremist.
            They don’t agree with Cheeko’s and Bruce’s point of view.

          • Brucehenry

            The same thing that makes FDR-style liberal Democrats “far left radical anti-American.” It’s all relative.

            I didn’t say they WERE extreme. I said they “can be called” extreme, and they often are.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            I see. The Tea Party can be called extremist, even though you don’t believe they’re extremist. But Islamic terrorists can’t be called Islamic terrorists because ……….

          • Brucehenry

            Islamic terrorists CAN be called Islamic terrorists. Obama chooses not to do so, instead opting for the equally accurate “violent extremists,” in order to NOT fan the flames of sectarian hatred.

            Or for WHATEVER reason he so chooses. And you guys insisting he use the terminology you prefer to hear is, well, just fucking silly.

            BTW I didn’t say the Tea Party is NOT extremist, either, LOL. They can be called extreme in the context of US right v left politics, not in comparison to barbarians who behead innocents.

  • Obama wants to label Islamic Terrorists as extremists because it makes it more effective when he uses the same label for limited government conservatives.

  • GarandFan

    “…on Feb. 18 we will be hosting a summit where we try to find better ways to counter violent extremism….”

    Suggestion: #Hashtags with EXCLAMATION POINTS!

    • Walter_Cronanty

      Now that’s funny.

  • Commander_Chico

    The real cluelessness is that Warner used a picture of a Syrian rebel unit, the “Palace Brigades,” to illustrate his story.

    The Palace Brigades are fighting Assad, and almost certainly being assisted by the CIA and other western agencies.

  • yetanotherjohn

    The biggest threat to Obama’s vision of the world isn’t Islamic terror, the biggest threat is the Tea Party. So ‘Violent Extremism’ lets him turn the government machinery to address the threat he wants to address.