Racist Actor George ‘Mr. Sulu’ Takei Calls Black Man a ‘Clown in Black Face’

Is the out and proud gay Star Trek actor a racist for calling a black man a “clown in black face”? Usually the left attacks racists like this for this kind of hate speech? Of course, the left won’t attack in this case because “Mr. Sulu” just attacked Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, a black man that the left claims “isn’t really black.”

Takei made his racist comment during an interview on a local Phoenix Fox News affiliate. He was on to talk about his views on gay marriage, an issue on which he’s become a loud national supporter.

Takei attacked Thomas for saying that slavery was “dignified” and then couched his discussion of American slavery by quoting a movie. Yes, a movie. Takei thinks movies tell us all we need to know about America history.

Here is what Takei said…

“He is a clown in blackface sitting on the Supreme Court. He gets me that angry. He doesn’t belong there. And for him to say, slaves have dignity. I mean, doesn’t he know that slaves were in chains? That they were whipped on the back. If he saw the movie 12 Years a Slave, you know, they were raped. And he says they had dignity as slaves or – My parents lost everything that they worked for, in the middle of their lives, in their 30s. His business, my father’s business, our home, our freedom and we’re supposed to call that dignified? Marched out of our homes at gun point. I mean, this man does not belong on the Supreme Court. He is an embarrassment. He is a disgrace to America.”

Unfortunately, Takei either isn’t smart enough to understand what Justice Thomas really said, or the gay activist is actively distorting it in order to indulge his high dudgeon. This all makes Takei a clown in rainbow face.

So, what did Thomas actually say? Did he say slavery was dignified like this actor–this man who pretends for a living–claimed he said?

Nope…

Human dignity has long been understood in this country to be innate. When the Framers proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence that “all men are created equal” and “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,” they referred to a vision of mankind in which all humans are created in the image of God and therefore of inherent worth. That vision is the foundation upon which this Nation was built.

The corollary of that principle is that human dignity cannot be taken away by the government. Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved. Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away.

Notice that Thomas didn’t say that slavery was “dignified.” He said that slavery didn’t beat African Americans down and that they carried themselves with dignity despite their treatment! This is the ultimate compliment, not a slam on slaves.

Clearly Takei isn’t smart enough to understand an adult, intelligent discussion.

But in the end, this is exactly where EVERY leftist goes. They can’t argue their point without name calling, impugning people, and lying about what their enemies stand for and say. George Takei is a bitter little creep.

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  • FrenchKiss

    Waiting for Jackson, sharpton, naacp, black panthers, Hillary Clinton (who just criticized trump) to say something.

    {crickets}

    • Brett Buck

      Just shows what happens to a very-high-achieving man who doesn’t toe the line or provides counter-evidence of the “victim culture”.

      One man achieves one of the highest honors possible in the country/world and appreciates it, and conducts himself with dignity. He is attacked mercilessly by every useless pipsqueak with an axe to grind.

      Another man achieves *the* highest honor possible and uses it to incessantly whine and lecture about how racist everyone is. He is treated as a hero.

      Sick.

  • Time for Mr. Sulu to put on a red shirt.

  • jim_m

    Takei is no more racist than your average leftist.

  • Cesar Romero

    “A Clown in Black Face?”

    I have always enjoyed, loved and respected George Takei, but Takei’s vicious, racist attack on Judge Thomas is almost unworthy of a response. Shame on Takei! I will never be able to look at Takei in the same way.

    Perhaps he wrote inartfully, but Judge Thomas was merely making the obvious point that no man can have his dignity taken from him by any government or person. A man can only give up his own dignity, as Takei has done.

    Takei has revealed himself as a hate-filled, tiny little man. Had he not made these despicable remarks, Takei would have remained a popular Star Trek character and Gay activist. Now, Takei will be primarily remembered as a racist and bitter ideologue. I am very sorry for Takei. What a sad way to end one’s life; in shame and disgrace.

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/02/gay-activist-george-takei-clarence-thomas-is-a-clown-in-black-face-video/

    • So, I HAVE to ask, Mr. Cesar Romero… why exactly did you feel the need to include a link to the Daily Caller article? I mean, everything in that ultra short piece is right HERE in THIS piece and I even have MORE than DC had about what both parties said. So… why the pointless Daily Caller link? Just curious.

      • Cesar Romero

        It’s called, a mistake. Ever make one? Your irrelevant comment is very nearly an ad hominem attack. Your comment is a poor reflection on you–and no one else.

  • Commander_Chico

    The usual Wizbang fare, complaining about a fading minor star on local TV while the house is burning down around you.

    • Brett Buck

      Well, to be fair, I think we are pretty up to speed on what liberals such as yourself are doing to destroy the republic. I think there may be a thread or two on that topic, too.

      • Commander_Chico

        Bwah-hah-hah! I will destroy the Republic no matter what you pipsqueaks write.

        Actually, it is I who support the Republic; you’re all with the Empire.

        • jim_m

          Oh yeah, It’s been our side shouting that we need to make obama a dictator. How could I have missed that?

          • Brucehenry

            Well I missed the part where it’s MY side clamoring for an Obama dictatorship so maybe you did.

          • jim_m

            Really? Liar. We have gone around on here with Woody Allen saying outright that obama should be made dictator, with Tom Friedman saying that we should give him the powers of the Chinese Communist dictatorship (if only for a day, so he could impose by fiat the radical ideas of the left).

            Stop lying about your sides fascist proclivities. Lefties constantly are having wet dreams about being able to force their agenda on others. Dictatorship is the end game of leftism. Always has been.

          • Brucehenry

            Yes Woody Allen’s and Tom Friedman’s musings constitute a clamor and a “shouting” that Obama should be made dictator.

            Do you ever stop for a second to think how ridiculous something is going to sound before clicking “post”?

          • jim_m

            I never heard of anyone on the left criticizing them or anything other than affirmation that those are good ideas.

            DO you ever consider how much your side is enamored by authoritarianism? Have you failed to notice that the most authoritarian, intolerant and oppressive places to be are ones run by the left (like academia)?

            Obviously not, because to reflect on one’s own beliefs would lead you to reject what you believe or to openly accept the fascism you desire.

          • Brucehenry

            If you never heard anyone on the left criticizing Tom Fucking Friedman you don’t read much outside of wingnut websites.

          • jim_m

            YO seem to be incapable of linking criticism

          • Commander_Chico

            You guys made Bush dictator and Obama assumed the powers.

          • jim_m

            You’re a tool and haven’t even bothered to follow the thread.

          • We certainly granted President Bush expanded powers (which he used responsibly and which he vetted with Congress and the Courts). But you are correct (one of those two times in 1,440) that B. Hussein 0bama has assumed dictatorial powers and that the other two branches of Government have been delinquent in checking that power grab.

          • jim_m

            Show me where Bush made the IRS go after leftist organizations. Show me where Bush racialized the DOJ. Show me where Bush decided that he could rule through eecutive and administrative decree rather than through congress.

          • Brucehenry
          • jim_m

            The wonkette link is titled “Again Thomas Friedman Writes Same Column Again” and criticizes him for a column about technology.

            The salon piece criticizes Friedman for being pro globalization.

            The alternet piece is making the same point as the Salon piece.

            SO you failed to show a single lefty that criticizes Friedman for saying that the US should be like the Chinese totalitarian communist regime.

          • Brucehenry

            I said liberals mock Friedman routinely. It’s true though, that I don’t easily find anything about his China-for-a-day idiocy, maybe because conservatives gave him enough shit for it. In any case it was a dumb remark.

          • jim_m

            Very often you say that you don’t have to make a comment against something because the right is already criticizing it. I think you can see now that by your silence you appear to affirm rather than criticize.

          • Brucehenry

            I’m sure it appears that way to you. As for myself I don’t see the need to comment on every single political opinion expressed by every single liberal, or conservative either for that matter.

          • jim_m

            Oddly enough, apparently everyone on the left saw no need to criticize Friedman on this issue despite their seemingly willingness to criticize much of what he says.

            Seems a little odd that they should exempt this one column from what you claim is routine criticism.

            OK, I lied. The fact that they failed to criticize this when they criticize everything else that he says seems to indicate that this was the one item he published that they had no problems with.

            It’s not a mistake. They agreed with this and were silent. Pretty much like you. You don’t have to criticize every public statement but the universal silence from you and your fellow travelers speaks volumes about how you all agree with him.. After all, if criticizing him is such a routine activity, this one column stands out for its remarkable failure to deliver a single negative comment from the left.

          • jim_m

            Waiting for links that address Friedman’s claims that the US should be like China. I see lots of other criticism (and there was a comment from you that linked some but I don’t know where it went) that hits him for his position on Iraq and other things but that is not what I am talking about. And you know that but you would rather post non responsive crap.

          • Brucehenry

            Refresh your page and learn to use Google. Hint: Try typing “Liberals criticize Tom Friedman China comments”

          • jim_m

            I’ve refreshed my screen a half dozen times. The comment is gone.

          • Brucehenry

            I still see it, but I’ll try refreshing my page. It had four links, maybe that threw it into moderation or something.

          • Brucehenry

            Posted three of the links above. On my screen, it’s right below your comment that begins “Show me where…”

  • Paul Hooson

    Stop me if you heard this one, but two Jews(Shatner and Nimoy), and a Japanese walk on to a Federation Starship….

    • Commander_Chico

      I can’t believe that Nimoy is dead.

      • Paul Hooson

        Yes, Nimoy and Patrick MacNee from THE AVENGERS and Alvin Lee from Ten Years After are three difficult deaths for me to deal with…I wish all three of them would have outlived me…

        • I can get behind that wish…

          • Paul Hooson

            On the positive side for you, I’m 60 and have heart trouble, but on the negative side, young girlfriends 18-33 keep me interested in life….

          • jim_m

            they might keep your interest alive but they wont keep you alive. There really is a difference.

          • Commander_Chico

            But Rodney is pickled in bitter bile, he may be preserved forever.

            We’re having more fun, though.

          • And the asshole rides to the defense of his dangling hemorrhoid.

        • jim_m

          Yes, many have expressed that sentiment.

  • Brucehenry

    So George Takei, a man who has done more good in the last five years than Warner Todd Huston will do in his lifetime, lost his temper and uttered a slur on TV. He insulted a man who, if you leave off the “black face” remark, deserved every word of the insult. Thomas DOESN’T deserve to be on the court. Can’t defend the “black face” part, but you can see Takei is visibly angry — and I haven’t seen WTH condemning Donald Trump for his “Mexicans are rapists” remark yet, and that was part of a prepared announcement! Indeed since Trump’s remark he has SURGED IN THE POLLS.

    No, the government cannot “bestow” dignity. But it is ridiculous to claim that the government cannot take dignity away. Anybody who’s ever seen anyone being perpwalked to a police car can ask themselves if that alleged perpetrator looks dignified. Innocent men have been marched to the death chamber and broke down in hysterical tears, begging for their lives — did not the government take away their dignity? And government allowed slave owners to whip and humiliate their slaves. Those whipped and humiliated slaves had no dignity — indeed the concept of dignity probably never occurred to them, or the the owners.

    The dishonest tying of “welfare” benefits to the argument Thomas seemed to be making, which was already stupid, is proof that Takei had a point when he said that Thomas is “an embarrassment, a disgrace to America.”

    • 914

      Hurray for Trump! And Takei can say what he wants, it’s just always the double standard. If a right winger like Eastwood had made the black face comment about Obola you know the outrage from your side.

    • Vagabond661

      Illegal immigrants, Bruce. Trump said that about illegal immigrants.

      Sulu can say what he wants. I guess since he was “visibly angry” it justifies him saying whatever he wants, right?

      • jim_m

        Bruce shows his racism by thinking that all illegals are Mexicans

      • Brucehenry

        He said that about MEXICAN illegal immigrants. And even if it was about the illegality it’s false and racist. Illegal immigrants are coming here to work, not to rape.

        I JUST FUCKING SAID I can’t defend the slur can you not read?

        • jim_m

          Some illegals who come here are criminals. We welcome them all without differentiating between the workers and the criminals.

          • Brucehenry

            So what you’re “really saying” is that you agree 100% with Donald Trump and everything he has ever said, right? RIGHT?

          • jim_m

            Trump is an egotistical idiot, But I am merely mocking your bogus racialism.

        • Vagabond661

          It’s false because we have the criminal records of illegal aliens? Mexico must be providing that to our government after we sold them the illegal guns. Damn that’s nice of them.

          • Brucehenry

            Doesn’t make ’em rapists though.

          • Vagabond661

            Maybe this does:

            “The data, released by House Judiciary Committee Chairman Robert W. Goodlatte at the beginning of a hearing with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Sarah Saldana, also showed that the 30,558 criminal aliens ICE knowingly released back into the community in 2014 had amassed nearly 80,000 convictions, including 250 homicides, 186 kidnappings and 373 sexual assaults.”

            http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/14/feds-releasing-illegal-immigrant-rapists-murderers/

          • Brucehenry

            So 30,558 “criminal aliens” committed 373 sexual assaults and that makes all illegal Mexican immigrants rapists?

          • Vagabond661

            Who said all? These are convicted felons here illegally who were knowingly released back into the community. This does NOT account for the ones still in jail.

            I remember someone saying “He said that about MEXICAN illegal immigrants. And even if it was about the illegality it’s false and racist. Illegal immigrants are coming here to work, not to rape.”

            Not false and certainly not racist. Some are here to work. Just like The Donald said. The others, well that’s what LEGAL immigration is for. To weed them out.

          • Brucehenry

            You make the basic mistake of believing that “if it pisses off liberals it must be good.”

            Trump is undeniably a racist and a buffoon, but you defend his indefensible remarks because it pisses off liberals. The Rebel flag was stolen, co-opted,in the 1950s by the Klan and others as a symbol of resistance to the Civil Rights movement, but you adopt it as your avatar a few days after a racist waving it murdered nine black people. Indefensible, but you do it with a shit-eating grin (no doubt) because it pisses off liberals.

            This is why your ilk will lose the next presidential election to the likes of Hillary Clinton. You mistakenly believe that mouthbreathing rednecks whose highest goal is pissing off liberals constitute an electoral majority. Mark my words — they don’t.

          • jim_m

            Bruce is right. If it pisses off the liberals it isn’t necessarily good. Mainly because they will throw your ass in a prison without a second thought. centuries of slavery and totalitarianism don’t just go away at the drop of a hat.

          • Vagabond661

            You seem to be on a quest to find a point. Whatever. I could care less what you think of Trump. And as for this flag, I could care less if it upsets you.

            The faux outrage of the left does not impress me in the least. If the left wants to purposely remain ignorant of this flag, so be it. It can easily be googled. Bubba Watson is the real buffoon because he let schoolyard bullies influence him on what the flag means to US, not what leftist want to redefine the flag to mean.

            And that’s all the left is, schoolyard bullies who try to punish, mock and assault people who don’t agree with them. To that I say, bring it on.

          • jim_m

            I support flying it simply because I support the idea that people have the right to offend others. Others, like Bruce, think that offending others should be a thought crime and punishable with a prison sentence.

          • Brucehenry

            On the contrary, I support private citizens’ right to fly the flag and to display it as a bumper sticker, lapel button, whatever.

            Partly because that way I can more easily tell who the assholes are. But also because FREEDOM!

          • jim_m

            Bruce once again mistakes the number of people convicted for the number of people committing crimes. It’s almost as if he believes that a crime never happened if someone is not sent to jail.

            Wait, what am I saying, we already know that he believes that.

    • LiberalNightmare

      Only an idiot could misinterpret Thomas’s statement about dignity.

      “Human dignity has long been understood in this country to be innate. When the Framers proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence that “all men are created equal” and “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,” they referred to a vision of mankind in which all humans are created in the image of God and therefore of inherent worth. That vision is the foundation upon which this Nation was built.

      The corollary of that principle is that human dignity cannot be taken away by the government. Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved. Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away.”

      • Brucehenry

        I didn’t misinterpret it. I understand what he means perfectly. He’s wrong, and it’s obvious that he’s wrong, but I understand what he means.

        • jim_m

          Thanks for proving that you are an idiot. A person’s essential dignity is something that resides inside them. It is part of their basic humanity.

          If you had any character yourself you would understand this. Perhaps this the the problem that you and your racist friend, Takei, share. You lack any sort of moral fiber or character. You couldn’t lose your dignity since you’ve never had any.

          Furthermore, you assume that because people believe that others have an essential dignity that this is somehow excusing slavery or bigotry. That’s proof there that you are a towering dumbass.

          • Not the first time he has so demonstrated, not shall this be the last time. Why do you bother to do more than down ding and move on?

    • Dyskord

      Dignity can be defined as:
      1)bearing, conduct, or speech indicative of self-respect or appreciation of the formality or gravity of an occasion or situation
      2)nobility or elevation of character; worthiness

      It is not a superficial physical attribute. Its demeaning to insinuate that dignity is determined by ones circumstance. Do the poor not have dignity because of the way they appear or their lack financial security. is dignity in your estimation determined by an individuals social stature.
      Your example is flawed as the people often being arrested are criminals or suspected criminals and their demeanor or bearing is often one of Shame or menace depending on the situation, crime etc. being arrested for murder,embezzling,prostitution or whatever isn’t congruent with dignity.

      Dignity is similar to common sense I’m afraid, it is not something which can be bestowed, manifested at will or taught and is sadly lacking in too many people.
      To deny the inherent dignity of men and women who through circumstance and the cruelty and avarice of men were subject to slavery, one of histories great injustices is a terrible and ignorant insult.

      • Brucehenry

        Tell me genius, when slaves were forced to grovel and “yes massa” and “no massa” their owners, while the government actively allowed and encouraged the owning of slaves, were they displaying dignity, or had their dignity been taken away? When they were forced to dance and sing to please their masters who wished to believe they themselves were benevolent and their slaves filled with childlike contentment, were they displaying dignity or had their dignity been denied them?

        When the spouse of a captured runaway slave was forced to watch as her husband was publicly whipped, and as she cried and pleaded for mercy, was she displaying dignity, or had the government allowed her owner to take that dignity away?

        Indeed the denial of dignity to the enslaved population was necessary for the continuance of the system. It is ridiculous to say the government did not, could not, take away the dignity of the enslaved people. Of course it did, and to pretend that it didn’t is historical revisionism.

  • Vagabond661

    Since we are having a woman on the $10 bill, I nominate George Takei for the $3 bill.

    • Brucehenry

      Wow. Equal opportunity bigotry from the Rebel flag waver.

      • Vagabond661

        Yeah it;s why Seinfeld and Chris Rock won’t do colleges. You make a joke and you are vilified.

      • Vagabond661

        And wouldn’t that be homophobic (to use a term from the left) not bigotry?

        • Brucehenry

          No, homophobia, like racism, is a form of bigotry.

          • Vagabond661

            Well either doesn’t apply to me because George was on the Three Dollar Bill.

            http://bugsburnett.blogspot.com/2013/09/star-trek-legend-george-takei-on-sochi.html

          • Brucehenry

            Yeah a guy who uses the Flag of Treason and Slavery as his avatar and makes jokes about gay people being as queer as a three dollar bill couldn’t possibly be perceived as a bigot. My mistake, what was I thinking?

          • Vagabond661

            Apology accepted.

          • jim_m

            Mistake.

          • Brucehenry

            That was sarcasm, genius.

          • jim_m

            That was sarcasm, genius.

          • jim_m

            You mean the flag that 57% of Americans view as a symbol of Sourthern pride? Virtually unchanged from 2000 when 59% said the same thing?

            Once again Bruce is caught in his bullshit racialist crap trying to force his fascist agenda down the throats of others by calling them racist for no good reason.

          • Brucehenry

            Sure no good reason. Like when a guy adopts that symbol as his avatar, immediately after the murder of nine black churchgoers by a racist who just loved him some Rebel flag sparked a new debate over its display. What a crappy reason to imply racist motives.

            Maybe it’s not so racist really to suddenly adopt that symbol as a sign of “Southern Pride.” After all, Old Warner Todd ain’t even from the South but seems to suddenly think it’s soooo important to defend the Rebel flag. I guess it’s just, like I said elsewhere on this thread, a mistake that mouthbreathing rednecks make — that anything that pisses off liberals and black people is a good thing. Let’s see how that works out for your ilk in the next presidential election.

          • jim_m

            Over half of Americans believe that it is a symbol of Southern pride and they say that AFTER Charleston. But you don’t care. Even though half of Americans think this you declare that anyone supporting it now is a racist. Fuck you Bruce. Polling data says that you are a race baiting jerk.

          • Brucehenry

            Hey your Google must be broke down real bad since I don’t see a link to your poll.

          • jim_m

            Stick it you race merchant.

          • Brucehenry

            Ok but if you look into the text of the accompanying article you see that 55% of all those polled support NOT flying that flag on government property. And 50% support private companies choosing not to sell Rebel-themed merchandise.

            And among whites who are educated, like yourself, about 51% think the Rag of Treason is a symbol of “Southern Pride,” 41% one of racism, but among mouthbreathing goobers like me and your average good old boy, it’s 73% (!!) “Southern Pride” and 18% racism.

            I myself think this whole “Southern Pride” thing is part of the myth of the Lost Cause, reintroduced in the 20th Century by Griffith’s racist epic “Birth Of A Nation” and films like “Gone With The Wind.”

            I have ancestors who fought for the Confederacy. My mother’s people all came from South Carolina and Georgia to Northern Florida. My aunt, her sister, researched the geneaology in the 1980s and 90s and had a whole book of records, photos, clippings etc about it. I don’t really find anything to take pride in about it. They fought because their neighbors were fighting. If they owned slaves themselves that’s nothing to be proud of.

          • jim_m

            I think that there are probably precious few outside the dems that really desire a return of slavery. I think that for most people born in the 20th century in the South that this is a symbol of their heritage and culture.

            The only people desiring to divide people on the basis of race are the left. The only people that desire to erase all history are the dems who are primarily responsible for that history. Nearly EVERY ugly racist event in this nation can be laid at their (your) feet. The only reason to erase it from our memories is to escape culpability.

          • Brucehenry

            And again, no one is asking to erase history. People are simply saying it’s inappropriate to use government funds to fly the Klan flag.

            Merchants who choose not to sell Rebel-themed merchandise because they don’t want to participate in the myth of the Lost Cause are within their rights to do so.

          • jim_m

            Wasn’t the Klan flag. The Klan (another entirely dem organization) adopted it.

          • Brucehenry

            Yes the Klan adopted it. Stole it, really, from the Lost Cause idiots, and used it as a symbol of resistance to the “tyranny” of the Federal government trying to cram integration, miscegenation, and race-mixing down their throats.

          • jim_m
          • Brucehenry

            Oh you’re right the Klan never waves the Confederate flag.

          • jim_m

            Just pointing out what the Klan flag is. Because you are a freaking ignorant fool.

          • Brucehenry

            When I used the term “Klan flag” I assumed you knew, because I have said it repeatedly on these boards, that I was referring to the fact that the Klan co-opted it. Shorthand. Jesus.

          • Brucehenry

            In your link, 57% of people think the Rebel flag is a symbol of “Southern Pride” yet even 55% of whites in the south are fine with it not flying on government property. Most people in the South don’t give a shit about it, and those who do are clueless inconsiderate fucks who don’t give a damn about offending others.

            I’ve told the story before about a fellow pizzeria manager in the chain I used to work for who was an avid “re-enactor.” He had the whole thing down, complete with a gray artillery officer’s uniform and a handlebar mustache. One Sat morning he had an employee meeting scheduled and, since he was leaving to participate in a reenactment right after, he WORE HIS CONFEDERATE UNIFORM TO THE MEETING. He was completely flabbergasted that his black employees were fucking pissed. And this was in Wilson, NC in the 1990s.

          • jim_m

            The issue isn’t what black people think. The issue is what the person displaying the flag thinks. But you don’t get that. You just want control.

          • Brucehenry

            No of course it isn’t. Since black people are in the minority you don’t have to care what they think, right?

            Again, let Vagabond have his avatar. Let Billy Ray Joe Bob fly his flag. Let Wanda Sue drive around with a Rebel license plate on the front of her F-150. I don’t give a shit. Lets me know who the dumbfucks are.

          • jim_m

            THe point is what does the person displaying the flag think. Because that is what determines whether or not it is a racist thing. Again, you can’t understand that because you can’t understand that people have minds of their own because you think that blacks have to think the way you tell them to otherwise they aren’t “real” blacks. Just like your new hero George Takei.

          • Brucehenry

            Well I have lived in the South all my 60 years, and known many a “Heritage Not Hate” Rebel flag displayer. I have yet to meet one who wasn’t also, at best, a clueless fuck about race, like my above-mentioned former colleague, and, at worst, an out and out bigot.

            Your mileage may vary, but since you don’t live here, and never have as far as I know, you don’t know shit about the South.

          • jim_m

            Clueless is not the same as racist. But you seem to have difficulty differentiating that.

          • Brucehenry

            Sure so I guess my colleague the Rebel re-enactor shouldn’t have been reprimanded for wearing a Rebel uniform to a business meeting. He didn’t hate black people (although he had a “hilarious” black dialect impression that he used to make other dumbfucks laugh at parties) he was just all about heritage.

          • jim_m

            He shouldn’t have been called a racist. Clueless may be another issue. Making fun of others is what most humor is about.

          • Brucehenry

            “Punching up”is what most actually funny humor is about. “Punching down” is what makes movies like “American Carol,” and every failed attempt to make a conservative answer to The Daily Show, so excruciatingly unfunny.

            And I take issue with the idea that “clueless is not the same as racist.” Actually it’s not EXACTLY the same but clueless fucks throughout the South (and, I assume, everywhere) are constantly saying racist stuff while claiming “I’m not a racist, but…” Like “I’m not a racist, but this picture of Obama dressed as a witch doctor is hilarious!” Or “I’m not a racist, but you should lock your car doors if you stop at a stop sign on THAT street.”

          • jim_m

            You make the mistake of assuming that most of the daily show is funny.

          • Scalia

            C’mon, Bruce. You never laughed? Not even once? I hate racist jokes, but I have to admit to laughing at a few in my lifetime.

          • Brucehenry

            Of course I have, just as I once laughed at Andrew Dice Clay’s schtick even though I’m a supporter of women’s equality. But those who perfect a “perfect” black dialect to use to make other white people laugh at pigpickin’s are at best clueless and at worst haters.

          • jim_m

            Catch a little piece of reality. It’s (supposed to be) a free country. I don;t have to care what ANYBODY thinks. I am entitled to offend everyone if I wish. That’s called freedom. And again, you prove that you don’t like that.

          • Brucehenry

            So if gay people offend you by demanding the right to marry that’s OK? Because I understand you are offended by the “redefining” of the word “marriage.”

          • jim_m

            Offending me is fine. I hope I offend them back.

          • jim_m

            You strike me as the kind of person who loves South Park when it makes fun of Christians but gets all offended when they make fun of muslims and you are outraged when Mr Garrison and Mr Slave are on there making fun of gays.

          • Brucehenry

            So now that we know that I “strike you” as that kind of person, I am sure that, going forward, you will assume that this impression is the Gospel Truth and will act as if I have made statements to that effect.

            Which I have not. But you will insist that that is my position. Because I “strike you” as someone who would.

            I rarely watch South Park but when I have it has usually been pretty funny if it wasn’t being gratuitously gross.

          • Everyone has the right to carry around with them as much outrage and umbrage as they choose to bear.

          • They clearly want the same kind of control over others without the stigma of calling it what it is.

          • Vagabond661
          • jim_m

            Which is reflected in your constant use of the term “butthurt”.

  • jim_m

    Takei has doubled down on his racist rant by claiming that blackface is not racist and that what he really meant to say was that Thomas, because he has veered from the leftist dgma, is not really black.

    Takei concludes by inadvertantly claiming that he has no dignity.

    I can agree with the last part.

  • jim_m
    • Brucehenry

      It was also the party that ABANDONED his ancestors to the same racist Democrats who had formerly owned them.

      Read up on the Election of 1876 for details.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1876

      • jim_m

        You just won’t admit that if your side had their way you would own a black man yourself.

        • Brucehenry

          So you have never heard of the Compromise of 1877, have you?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compromise_of_1877

          Hint: the Wikipedia version bends over backwards to be “fair.” There are many accounts that show the naked cynicism of the GOP that sold out the freedmen they had pledged to help, in order to win an election and place the mediocrity Rutherford B Hayes in the White House. It was a win-win for the racist Democrats in the South.

          • jim_m

            Hint: you are still a fucking racist that supports the party that believes that owning people is OK and that if a black man speaks out against them he must be silenced.

            Face it Bruce. You support a party and an ideology that believes that blacks are only blacks if they think the way you tell them to. Exactly how does that make them human in your eyes? Because it sure as hell says to me that you look at blacks as your property.

          • Brucehenry

            There you go again you delusional crackpot.

          • jim_m

            Not a denial

          • Brucehenry

            No I don’t bother any more, just disengage when you try to pull that lying dishonest bullshit.

          • jim_m

            I only point out what you support.

      • jim_m

        Nothing is going to get you past the fact that the right freed the slaves and the left defended slavery and put the Japanese in concentration camps.

        Nothing. Because it is the truth.

        • Brucehenry

          Nothing is going to get you to quit pretending that the concept of “left and right” is the same as “Democrat and Republican,” especially when discussing events one hundred and fifty fucking years ago as opposed to today.

          The Japanese were interned by a liberal, Democratic president, that is true. Tell me about the conservative and Republican opposition to the internment. I’ll wait. Go ahead and link to the many heroic speeches made by GOP leaders in defense of the interned Japanese.

          • jim_m

            Doesn’t matter. It was conceived of and birthed by the left. The left claims Jefferson. They can keep the slavery. The fact is that there is an unbroken thread of racism in the left. From before the Civil War to afterward, all the way through Jim Crow, the KKK and the Civil Rights Act.

            Today it is identity politics and the racist straight jacket the YOU (yes, you Brucehenry) force on black people when you defend the racist tactics of bigots like George Takei. When you dismiss the racist attacks on Ted Cruz, demanding that he prove that he is Hispanic by speaking Spanish. When you dismiss the fact that the left attacks absolutely every minority that dares depart from the rigid left wing ideology. You excuse each and every one of these incidents. You are as much of a racist as Jeff Davis.

          • Brucehenry

            Well I got to hand it to you there. Laughing when Cruz is interviewed by a clueless schmuck is exactly the same as organizing an armed rebellion against the US government.

          • jim_m

            No defending that clueless schmuck and the mindset that he shares with everyone else on the left that caused him to ask those questions is what ties the left to the racists in their past. You can’t see that because you are too close to it. You can’t see it because you are in the same racist environment that says that minorities need to know their place and their place is obeying what you tell them to think.

        • And the champion of alien interment went on to become the left’s favorite Chief Justice of the Supreme Court…

          • jim_m

            The left has always been in love with the concentration camp. Sending their enemies to the gulag is their favorite pastime.

  • F_ck Off, George.

  • jim_m

    George Takei has finally apologized, he says that he was right and that his words were “uncivil” but avoids the fact that he is a bigot, he just regrets letting everyone know that he is. Key passage:

    But my choice of words was regrettable, not because I do not believe
    Justice Thomas is deeply wrong, but because they were ad hominem and
    uncivil, and for that I am sorry.

    No George. You’re a bigot and you don’t think that a black man has the right to disagree with leftist dogma. It wasn’t that you were uncivil. It’s that you are a racist and you think that blacks must bow to their master’s demands on how to think and how to act. You didn’t question Justice Thomas’ judgment or his ideas. You questioned his blackness. You questioned his authenticity and his life experience.

    Perhaps George left his sense in the internment camp, you know, the one the dems threw him into.

  • Paul Hooson

    Thomas shouldn’t be above being looked at objectively and truthfully here. His former girlfriend, Lillian McEwen noted in interviews before that Thomas was a porn loving binge drinker who was fun to be with for a few years in the 1980’s, but then gave up drinking, and maybe even porn, and then became an angry man that wasn’t pleasant to live with, so McEwen left him. One porn video store noted that Thomas used to be a regular customer in the 1980’s. – Since he’s been on the court, he’s been real antiporn and a hardline social conservative, but that hardly squares with what Thomas used to live in his own personal life according to the claims of people that know him. – It’s easy enough to focus on the controversial George Takai here, and not look at Clarence Thomas the hypocrite, representing one thing in his life, but expecting different from everyone else.

    • jim_m

      So your claim is that because Thomas has apparently changed he is not allowed to live by his convictions but must adhere to the dissolute life he previously led. People are allowed to change but must always publicly support the lowest common denominator behavior of any point in their lives.

      Furthermore – It isn’t Thomas who is the issue here. It is Takei’s bigoted racist comments that take the position that Thomas is not authentically black because he doesn’t toe the line to the bigoted left wing agenda. Because Thomas dares to disobey his elitist left wing slave masters he cannot be allowed to claim black as his race.

      You have no idea how bigoted what Takei said is.

      • Paul Hooson

        I question whether Thomas actually has any real convictions, is just a garden variety hypocrite, or is just judgmental to others, but lives another way or what? I don’t know what to think about him other than he might have such a strong defense mechanism to hide his private life from others that he overcompensates with his hardcore social conservative routine act. I think both the evidence as well as first impressions were right about Thomas with those that had doubts about him. – I can’t support Takai’s comments, but the psychologist in me tells that Thomas isn’t who many of his ardent supporters think he is. He’s probably the most outlandish court member, bar none…

        • Scalia

          I question whether Thomas actually has any real convictions, is just a garden variety hypocrite, or is just judgmental to others, but lives another way or what?

          Like you question Moses’ honesty and like you make up biblical episodes without providing one shred of the proof you demand from others? Whether you like Thomas or not, his legal opinions are consistent. How he lives his private life has no bearing on his judicial opinions. They either accurately describe the law or they do not.

          I don’t know what to think about him other than he might have such a strong defense mechanism to hide his private life from others that he overcompensates with his hardcore social conservative routine act.

          It’s hard to make sense of this. Are you saying that Thomas should bend the law to compensate for this private life? His job is to rule on what the law says, not what he wants it to say. Reading your posts, it is not likely that you are an originalist when it comes to the Constitution, but Thomas certainly is, and his judicial opinions reflect that. I think it is rather commendable for a judge to set aside his preferences in order to objectively rule on the law. Your comment makes me wonder whether you support a judge lying about the law in order to make room for his personal excesses. If so, that’s a rather steep thing to say.

          I can’t support Takai’s comments, but the psychologist in me tells that Thomas isn’t who many of his ardent supporters think he is. He’s probably the most outlandish court member, bar none…

          In my legal journeys, I’ve heard NOBODY claim that Thomas is a saint and as pure as the wind-driven snow. We comment on his judicial opinions, not his bill at the local XXX establishment. Either his opinions accurately reflect the Constitution or they do not. To utter racial slurs about him is abominable and should earn the opprobrium of every decent person.

          • Paul Hooson

            Takai’s comments were unacceptable. But, Thomas is not above question for much about his personal life or public legal actions that impact us all…

          • Scalia

            You’re not engaging my argument, Paul. Thomas has a job and he performs his job admirably. If Thomas hasn’t changed his private life, it is all the more admirable that he isn’t bending the law to suit his tastes. You should be praising him in that regard instead of casting aspersions at his expense. He isn’t a hypocrite because he properly performs his job.

            OTOH, feel free to criticize his opinions if they don’t conform to the Constitution, and if you don’t like his private life, fire away, but to accuse him of hypocrisy is over the line.