Do Donald Trump and his supporters want the Democratic Party to win the White House in 2016?

Trumpenstein

Watching Donald Trump rise in popularity within the GOP is like watching a train wreck, with the train being the GOP.

Right now, Democrats must be on their knees thanking God for Donald Trump, because the 2016 presidential election was going to be lost by them until he jumped into the contest.

Trump would be a side-show attraction in the current political circus if it weren’t for the alleged Republicans who are cheering him on. The latter are behaving like Minions in search of a villain to serve. Well, they have found one.

Are Trump’s supporters oblivious to the fact that Trump’s rantings are as toxic as Gru’s jelly?

Charles Krauthammer writes, “If you are a conservative alarmed at the country’s direction and committed to retaking the White House, you should be concerned about what Trump’s ascendancy is doing to the chances of that happening. The Democrats’ presumptive candidate is flailing badly. Republicans have an unusually talented field with a good chance of winning back the presidency. Do they really want to be dragged into the swamps — right now, on immigration — that will make that prospect electorally impossible? Yes, I understand. The anger, the frustration, etc., etc., that Trump is channeling. But how are these alleviated by yelling “I’m mad as hell” — and proceeding to elect Hillary Clinton?”

In a Washington Post column, George Will says this:

It has come to this: The GOP, formerly the party of Lincoln and ostensibly the party of liberty and limited government, is being defined by clamors for a mass roundup and deportation of millions of human beings. To will an end is to will the means for the end, so the Republican clamors are also for the requisite expansion of government’s size and coercive powers.

Most of Donald Trump’s normally loquacious rivals are swaggeringly eager to confront Vladimir Putin but are too invertebrate — Lindsey Graham is an honorable exception — to voice robust disgust with Trump and the spirit of, the police measures necessary for and the cruelties that would accompany his policy.

In a Weekly Standard blog post, Jay Cost explains just how amateurish Trump is.

The winning political position for conservatives is to insist on proper enforcement mechanisms and a visa program that works for the whole country, and then to deal compassionately with the people who are already here illegally – some form of legal status that falls short of citizenship. To whatever extent they constitute a public policy problem, it does not justify the draconian measure of mass deportation. Instead, conservatives should focus on fixing the system that let them in.

But Trump seems incapable of such nuance. For instance, he told Chuck Todd on Meet the Press that illegal immigrants in this country “have to go,” including the DREAMers (i.e. those illegal immigrants who were brought here as children, have no criminal backgrounds, and gone to college or joined the military). This is an unequivocal loser for conservatives. The DREAMers, after all, are a small cohort who receive outsized national attention because they are a politically sympathetic group. A skillful politician would gladly compromise on the DREAMers, knowing that the real goal is to ensure that effective enforcement mechanisms take effect before any legalization.

But Trump is not a skillful politician. He is an amateur, and a vain one at that. Todd baited the hook, and Trump eagerly took a chomp. He couldn’t help himself, even though it makes him look like a nativist, not to mention a statist. How many federal police officers would be needed to track down 11 million illegal immigrants? More than I care to hire, that’s for sure.

It used to be that angry villagers would attack a monster with torches and pitchforks, but the Howard Beale wing of the GOP is cheering the monster of Manhattan, despite the damage that Trumpenstein is doing to the GOP village.

Oh well, if Dr. Nefario can create a cure for Gru’s Minions, then perhaps he can create a cure for Trump’s. It’s too bad that a fart gun won’t work on Trump, because he stinks already.


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  • Kaiser Derden

    so keep insulting Trump and his supporters and get a third party run by him. Seems like its YOU that wants Hillary in the White House not Trump …

  • MartinLandauCalrissian

    Right now, Trump is not getting the support of “Republicans.” He’s getting the support of Tea Party activists who hate the establishment and don’t really see any difference between the Republican Party and the Democrats. So, as far as most of them are concerned if it isn’t Trump, then it doesn’t matter who wins because Jeb, Hillary, et al are all the same.

    • Hank_M

      That’s what I’m hearing from a lot of people. They also like the fact that he could care less about political correctness.

      And it isn’t just tea party activists. A lot of people are talking very quietly among themselves and are surprised to find that they aren’t the only ones who find Trump
      a viable candidate. These are the same people who have been “taught” to keep their conservative views to themselves.

      • Mjolnir

        He also doesn’t seem to care much about political realities, intelligent foreign policy or realistic domestic policy. He is hiding his basic political incompetency and ignorance behind blowhard populist rhetoric.

        • Retired military

          And what questions are front runner Hillary answering? Where do you get your hair styled? Who makes your dresses?

          • Mjolnir

            I have no care for Hillary, either. She and Trump are more alike than not. But it isn’t what he’s asked, but what he says, unasked. Let’s not forget that Trump is the jerk who has had a long-running public feud of idiots with Rosie O’Donnell, who is of the same mold as the Donald.

  • Idahoser

    oh yeah, it would be SO much better if we’d just shut up and let the dam democrats give us another bush.
    I don’t want trump to be president. I’d like somebody that will be a good conservative, and try to get America there. Since nobody worth electing has asked for the job, I’d like the eventual nominee to be afraid of looking like a liberal. Trump is pushing the crowd that direction.

    And if the crowd refuses to look good by comparison and Trump gets nominated?

    he’s better than another McCain.

  • Vagabond661

    Toxic….You keep using that word. I don’t think you know what it means.

    Toxic is Benghazi, emails, Iran Deal, Obamacare, Fast & furious, Planned Parenthood, IRS & Lois Lerner, Gay marriage…….these….these are the toxic things hung around the Democrats neck.

    • MartinLandauCalrissian

      Toxic is also Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, John Kasich, and Pataki.

    • iwogisdead

      Not only toxic, but a “villain,” and “amateurish.” And, just in case we didn’t get it, David Robertson includes a clever “Trumpenstein.”

      To support his arguments, David Robertson includes some cartoons. Wonderful.

      Why is David Robertson posting on this site? His posts are stupid and sophomoric. I get that some Republicans are not happy about Trump. Hell’s Bells, there are a million GOP candidates at this point. I’m not all that happy that Trump may be the nominee. But, Trump must have something figured out–look at the polls.

      If Robertson is going to continue posting on this site, somebody please tell him that using cartoons is not very persuasive for grown-ups, unless you are Walt Kelly.

    • jeff B

      yes and you use a racist symbol of slavery proudly, you sir are toxic and evil

  • JWH

    It’s foolish to think, this early, that Trump is going to be the nominee. Just ask Presidents Cain and Perry how well the early poll numbers worked out.

    • MartinLandauCalrissian

      Not to mention president Giuliani.

    • Vagabond661

      And Hillary…

  • Olsoljer

    WTF? I am off this site for a year and the first article I now read is total idiocy? Trump did not get where he is being stupid. Just to address one moronic point here, just how many illegals would you have to deport if ALL illegals were denied benefits of social programs? How about denying them employment and ENFORCING the laws already in place re: fining employers, fining those selling them goods and services (housing) or withholding federal funds from agencies, municipalities etc. that provide them with various forms of assistance? How can the 14th Amendment provide “anchor” babies citizenship (you better re read that Amendment) when their parents are felons and in all actuality the babies are “fruits of the poisonous tree”? If Trump were POTUS, don’t you think that he would severely reduce the number of “feel good” agencies and place like minded individuals in cabinet and other appointed positions that would severely curtail spending/budgets as well as rewrite and/or fundamentally change skewed government agencies? Don’t you believe Trump would appoint a DOJ that would hold the previous administration accountable for illegal actins and prosecute them? What do you think the American people are waiting for?

    • jim_m

      That’s because you read an article from David Robertson. The odds of reading an idiotic article are rather high in that event.

      • iwogisdead

        Ain’t it the truth, bro. Ain’t it the truth.

      • MartinLandauCalrissian

        Ouch! LOL. At least he ain’t TRUMPeting how great a Catholic he is and how everyone that disagrees with his religious ideals is lazy and stupid. 🙂

    • IHC

      True or more closely accurate numbers of illegal invaders in this country is around 42.1 million – how much money and jobs would that mean for americans? A whole lot!
      That is an unacceptable number but not surprising; no country on this planet earth can survive or have a country left at all with so many non-citizens which includes many who literally hate America and its citizens.
      How that is out of control? Current and past politicians, presidents and big players such as Wall Street, Chamber of Commerce among others.
      That has to stop and that is a reason many americans are angry!

  • Retired military

    I am not a Trump supporter.
    However if Jeb, Graham, Kasich or the rest of the RINO bunch that is running is elected than I consider that to be almost as bad as Clinton or whatever democrat is running.
    I am not voting next year instead I am writing on my ballot that as long Boehner and McConnel are in the leadership I will not vote for ANY republicans.
    I am sick and tired of the fucking RINOs and the lies from the GOP establishment.
    I held my nose and voted for McCain
    I held my nose and gagged and voted for Romney.
    To the GOP establishment I say “SCREW YOU” never again.

  • Retired military

    David I asked you before and got no answer. I will ask you again
    After we get through pandering to the illegals do we go after the pedophile voters or do we go after the voters who support partial birth abortion?
    Inquiring minds want to know.

    • WHO’S THE BUSTER

      “I asked you before and got no answer. I will ask you again
      After we get through pandering to the illegals do we go after the pedophile voters or do we go after the voters who support partial birth abortion?”
      Gee, can’t imagine why that didn’t garner a response.
      Hey David, is it true you still beat your wife?

  • LiberalNightmare

    Is there a particular difference between a democratic president and a republican president that acts like a democrat?

    • Retired military

      Yeah the republican president that acts like a democrat lies to conservatives about his/her agenda and when they get into office all their promises go out the window. See Boehner and McConnell for case studies.

  • Paul Hooson

    Despite all her character problems, Hillary Clinton is still the odds-on favorite to win in 2016. Right now a worsening worldwide economy is the biggest opponent of any Democrat, not Trump, Bush or Walker. Jimmy Carter ran close to Reagan in 1980 only until worsening economic news as well as Reagan’s ability to convince voters he was not dangerous and reckless in foreign policy and had a plan to make America great again led to a Carter collapse at the polls by election day. This election is still Hillary’s to lose at this point.

    • Sky__Captain

      BWAHAHAHAHA!

      The Hildabeast is one of the most tone-deaf candidates in a long time. Add to that her legal problems and assorted scandals, and I don’t see her even getting the Democrat nomination.
      If 0bama notices the handwriting on the wall, there’s a reasonable chance for Grandma Cankles to be indicted in about 6 months.

      Then we’ll see the Joe “Sheriff” Biden and Liz “Lieawatha” Warren ticket going for the “Cowboy and Indian” votes.

      • iwogisdead

        Careful with what you say. Paul Hooson’s already a real estate millionaire.

        • Paul Hooson

          My nightclub is like the General Motors of nightclubs. One of the largest in Oregon. I guess the stereotype is true, Jews do know something about money. The Beatles got rich because their manager’s last name was Epstein, and not Smith or Jones…

          • jim_m

            Like the GM of night clubs? So you are so mismanaged that you need a government bailout?

          • Paul Hooson

            No…

          • jim_m

            I almost want to give credence to Paul’s claim that he is successful because he is Jewish and not because he is competent. It’s really hard to argue against that claim.

        • In Detroit.

      • That’s “Fauxchahontus”

    • Commander_Chico

      Hillary vs. Trump, Hillary wins, no doubt about it.

      • Paul Hooson

        Most psychics have already called this election for months now. In addition, odds makers rate Hillary as a prohibitive 45% to 18 % favorite in wagers. Trump has a 5% chance of being elected according to the running wagers, where even Biden’s far-fetched 7% is a little higher. If Hillary cannot survive her Email scandal, that is one of the few things that throw these early wagers out the window and re-set all the wagers. Otherwise, you can bet your lifesavings on a wager for Hillary to win right now despite all her problems…

        • Retired military

          They said the same thing about Hillary in 2008.

          • Paul Hooson

            I know, wagers in Las Vegas and elsewhere don’t always make the right call, despite gambling some big money on their wagers…

    • Retired military

      She has 2 chances
      1. Bush is the republican nominee. The conservatives will say screw it and stay home.
      2. She takes McCain as her running mate.

      • Commander_Chico

        Yeah because McCain is a proven winner in national elections and at age 80 he’ll bring youth to the ticket.

        • Retired military

          a. McCain will get the RINO vote.
          b. Hillary will be seen as reaching across the aisle
          c. His age will be a plus for the libs as they know that he wont be President and that Hillary will dump him within a year of being in office.

      • Paul Hooson

        She has no reason to choose McCain. – She might try to attract liberals to vote by choosing a more liberal candidate, but that would be bad, because Hillary has supported military action in areas that even Biden has opposed.

        • Retired military

          Hillary has the liberal vote locked up. No matter all the rhetoric. THe libs will vote for her if she is the nominee if she was seen blowing a 10 year old boy in the middle of times square.

          It is what liberals do.

          McCain is to get the squishy RINO voters and as I have stated his age is a plus for the libs not a minus for the ticket. Plus Hillary will be seen as reaching across the aisle even after all the mean spirited disproven right wing attacks against her.

    • jim_m

      She’s already lost it. She’s in free fall in the polls. She now trails Rubio, Trump, and Bush in every key swing states and Cruz in most of them.

      She also trails Bernie in several key primary states. She won’t survive the primaries and at this rate won’t even make it to January. If she gets the nomination she will be crushed in the general. All this talk about how inevitable she is overlooks how deeply unlikable she is.

      • Paul Hooson

        She quickly stumbled in 2008 and appears to be doing the same again so far this year again. But, it’s very early and the Email scandal dust has not yet settled. If nothing much comes from this, and she is able to blame her accusers as witch hunters, then she may regain her footing yet. The election is hers to lose…

      • Retired military

        Jim
        She will be the nominee even if she has to burn the dem party down around her cankles.
        An aide will take the fall for the email scandal, will go to a country club jail for a year or so, will have 7 figures in the bank waiting on them when they get out and a job for life with a subsidiary of the clinton foundation.
        Anyone who thinks she will get indicted or go to jail isnt paying attention. No way a former first lady and secratary of state goes to jail.

        • jim_m

          That won’t help her polling. e is already falling behind fast.

          • Retired military

            Jim

            Bet you $20 that Hillary is the nominee. Loser sends winner a check.

  • Commander_Chico

    Trump said the hedge fund guys were getting away with not paying taxes. That was a good thing to say, but I still think he’s not to be trusted with nuclear command authority.

    • Paul Hooson

      Jeb Bush needs to consolidate the votes from the other candidates dropping out as soon as possible during the actual primaries and go one on one with Trump and win a majority of the delegates. Trump’s 22-30% standing is only benefited from such a large divided field.

      • Retired military

        Unfortunately I t hink you are right. And if so then Hillary will win in 2016.
        Conseravtives are tired of being the African Americans of the republican party and it isnt gonna take 100 years for them to say screw it. You saw it in 2008 and 2012. With Boehner and McConnell as the best congressinal leaders the dems ever had I predict you will see a mass revolt in 2016 if Jeb is the nominee.

        • Paul Hooson

          The current Republican field does highlight many ideological fractures, then again the Democratic field features Hillary, a former Goldwater Republican turned Democrat versus the wild-eyed angry socialist Bernie Sanders, where I doubt a lot of mainstream Democrats could vote for him versus a more mainstream Republican.

    • Retired military

      Trump doesnt need their money

    • Vagabond661

      Hilliary vs Trump? Her own party doesn’t think she will get the nomination. That’s where the focus should be right now.

  • IHC

    This post sounds similar to words used by the GOP establishment politicians and their puppets.
    If you take a little time out studying the establishment plan and strategy of the GOP – you’ll realize how deceptive and condescending these people really are. Their only goal is to elect the rhino/liberal Jeb Bush who is obviously not catching on and a rather boring and liberal candidate.
    His love for illegal border jumpers/invaders can not be mistaken. He has been bought and paid for by Wall Street and the Chamber of Commerce (Donohue) while being their puppet. The splitters in the race to attain the goal of electing Bush are all other candidates with one exception: Cruz and Trump.
    Trump was not penciled into their little game plan and their deception and upsetting the establishment as well as their supporters on Fox News as well as the other ‘betters’ such as Krauthammer, Will, Williamson, Meghan Kelly and the rest of these plutocrats.
    We – conservative grassroots are the enemies to them – they have given us nasty names such as ‘crazies, vultures, idiots’ and a host of other even more damning ones.
    Millions of americans are angry and are not willing to continue on the trajectory of this country and it is that reason that Trump is the favorite because he says out loud what many americans are feeling and thinking.
    The vitriol against Trump and his supporters will get more intense and ugly – that is no surprise to us!

  • Constitution First

    No David, but I’m pretty sure you do.
    No surer way of electing a Democrat but to keep the right fighting amongst themselves?
    Right David?

  • jeff B

    Bill Clinton called the Donald and they worked out this program to tank the GOP. Trump is really a democrat. Wonder what Bill promised Trump for knifing the GOP in the back?

  • ohio granny

    Krauthammer and Will are not conservatives. They are moderates. Don’t know about Jay Cost. They hate Trump and will say anything to denigrate him. I am not necessarily a fan of Trumps and I don’t support him in everything he says. But he is right about illegal invaders. I also like the fact he doesn’t back down unlike the GOPe who are afraid of their shadows. They lie to get elected and then try to lie about the reason they constantly cave to Obama and the dems. If anyone is responsible for a democrat winning in 2016 it will not be Trump but the establishment RINO’s who have done so much to denigrate and destroy the base.