Republican Debate and Open Thread

Last Republican Debate before the New Hampshire Primary.

Who won?

Who lost?

In reverse order, Rubio lost.  He kept repeating the same talking points even after his opponents pointed out he was doing so.

Winner is harder to call…  The Round Mound of Profound on Style, Cruz on the facts…

What do you think?

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  • yetanotherjohn

    Sorry. I learned to watch debates under the tutelage of Stephan Green and I’m saving what’s left of my liver for the GOP vs Dem debate in the fall. So other than to tell you that nothing in the debate changed my mind on any candidate (because I didn’t watch it), I can’t discuss the debate.

    • An honest if uninformative comment…

      • yetanotherjohn

        You know I like an occasional drink at least.

        • Never trust a man who won’t drink with you.

          • yetanotherjohn

            Never trust a man who drinks more than you, he’s obviously a drunkard.
            Never trust a man who drinks less than you, he obviously fears his inner self will be exposed.
            Never trust a man who drinks the same amount as you, he is obviously sucking up to you.

  • Scalia

    I thought Rubio gave a great answer on abortion:

    • Outstanding answer… he continues for me, despite some flaws, to be the only candidate I could vote for with some level of comfort…

  • Paul Hooson

    Trump wisely decided that he had better participate and not throw away a second election. His boycott of the debate before Iowa only threw away any chance he had to win that state and hurt his standings in the race overall.

    • Par4Course

      It is generally illegal to bet on elections in the US. Please tell me where to place a political bet in Las Vegas. John Stossel has a web site posting betting odds from BetFair, a UK-based site: The odds-makers may change their mind after last night’s debate. Christie called Rubio robotic, and Rubio responded by sounding robotic. Rubio’s motto: May the best short sound bite win.

      • Paul Hooson

        Illegal or not, the odds makers do post the latest odds and bet on everything somewhere be it the Super Bowl or Marco Rubio’s odds to win the GOP nomination, where he is now the clear favorite among those that bet on such things, illegally or not.

  • JWH

    I did not watch. I devoted myself to protecting the galaxy from the Reapers.

    • cathymv

      oh man, I thought you were talking about the Reavers from Firefly:

      “If they take the ship, they’ll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing. And, if we’re very, very lucky, they’ll do it in that order.”

      ―Zoë Alleyne Washburne

      oh well.. my bad, but that would have made you like… totally cool!! 🙂

      • yetanotherjohn

        I didn’t know reavers where democrats, but that would explain the brain damage.

      • JWH

        Reapers. Mass Effect, Cathy. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get the third game to boot.

        • I like Cathy’s reference better and find it much more appropos.

          • JWH

            Hey, it’s an open thread.

            You ever play ME? The Reapers are soulless machines that seek to assimilate human beings and bend the Galaxy to their will. A good joke for either party …

        • cathymv

          LOL, just when I think I can play with the big boys… I shoot, I miss!!! sigh… I try, I try! But thank you for protecting the galaxy! We appreciate it!! 🙂


    Is this the debate where Rubio asserts that Obama knows exactly what he is doing?

    Rubio sure did groove a few pitches over the middle of the plate for Christie. Man, was Christie savoring that moment; can’t say that I blame him. Didn’t Christie do everything this week but tell Rubio word for word that he was going to do this to him?

    They expanded on this yesterday morning when it was reported that Rubio paid Frank Luntz $350,000 to arrange focus groups to hone his message and this was the number one answer. No harm in that, I would probably do the same, but someone should have told him he needed to be able to expand or pivot off of his rhetoric.

    What was worse for Rubio, this or the Santorum interview where he couldn’t come up with one Rubio accomplishment? He does have one major accomplishment, immigration reform, but he can’t talk about it and is better off pretending it never happened.

    It will be interesting to see the results of today’s primary. Does Kasich come out of nowhere? Does the Rubio faux pas result in the rebirth of Jeb? New Hampshire is one of the states where individuals can vote across party lines and you never know how that may affect the results. Heck, do we even know if Trump supporters are only interested in rallies, rather than actually voting?