Can the Trump Train be Stopped?

From Politico:

Donald Trump trounced his rivals in the Nevada caucuses on Tuesday, notching his third consecutive victory and giving the Manhattan mogul even more momentum heading into Super Tuesday next week, when voters in a dozen states will cast their ballots.

Trump’s decisive win, which the Associated Press announced immediately after polls closed, was propelled by an electorate even more enraged than the ones that had swept him to wins in New Hampshire and South Carolina, and a second-place showing in Iowa.

“We love Nevada. We love Nevada,” Trump declared in his victory speech. “You’re going to be proud of your president and you’re going to be even prouder of your country.”

For the first time in the 2016 primary season, media entrance polls showed that a majority of voters, 57 percent of Nevada caucus-goers, said they were “angry” with the federal government.

And, as significantly, they want to bring in an outsider to fix it. More than three in five caucus-goers said they favor someone from outside the political establishment rather than a candidate with political experience as president.

It all added up to Trump’s biggest night yet.

“Now we’re winning, winning, winning,” Trump said. “And soon the country is going to start winning, winning, winning.”

The outcome was bad news for Marco Rubio, who is now 0 for 4 in the February contests, and Ted Cruz, who won the Iowa caucuses but finished a disappointing third in South Carolina on Saturday.

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  • Commander_Chico

    No. The Trump Train can’t be stopped. Americans know the establishment candidates will dish out the same old shit – crony capitalism and more war in the service of crony capitalism and foreign countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia.

    Trump may be a disaster, but we know Rubio, Cruz or Hillary will be a disaster. Bernie has no chance, DNC rigged it for Hillary.

    I do fear another “lone gunman” though, given how much the establishment and neocons hate Trump.

  • Hank_M

    I see here and on other sites, this question is being asked a lot lately.
    Some now want a Rubio/Cruz ticket to stop Trump. Others say they’ll stay home and never vote for Trump while Trump supporters say if they do stop Trump, they’ll stay home.

    This is what you get when your party stands for nothing, dismisses its’ grass roots supporters as racists, hobbits, crazy and worse, and rolls over repeatedly to the opposition party.

    Stop Trump and kiss the republican party goodbye.
    A party that stands for nothing will not be missed.

    • Retired military

      The GOPe deserves Trump. They screwed over the base every chance they got. McCuckold McConnell and Ballless Boehner gave Obama stuff that Pelosi and Reid could only dream of. Rino Ryan is continuing to act like his predecessor.
      Trump is showing them the emporer has no clothes.

      • Valid points, but the Republic would not be well served by Clinton, Sanders, or Trump.

        • Commander_Chico

          Which republic are you talking about? Israel or Mexico?

        • Retired military

          Better Trump than Clinton or Sanders.

        • PBunyan

          There is no significant difference between Clinton, Rubio, Cruz, Kasich, Jeb Bush, or Obama, only minor cosmetic differences to fool the rubes. They all serve the donor class and will do the bidding of the global Marxists. Trump is the only one who will serve the people and make us a republic again by taking down the ruling class (uniparty).

          • fustian24

            What in the world?

            Trump IS the donor class.

          • PBunyan

            He’s filthy rich, but he isn’t one of them. If he was one of them they (the Republicans and the Democrats–you know the uniparty?) wouldn’t be fighting him so hard.

          • fustian24

            Except that they’re not.

            The dems WANT Trump to be the candidate because he has so much baggage for their pet press to work with.

            The republicans know that they can work with Trump (they’ve said so), they just don’t think he can survive the election with Hillary.

            The guy that everybody is afraid of is Cruz.

          • PBunyan

            Cruz does scare the hell out of me, what with pretending to be a Tea Party candidate while actually being a global Marxist. The good thing is he fooling fewer and fewer people every day. He probably won’t even win Texas next week.

          • Care to bet your presence here on that prediction?

          • PBunyan

            You want me to stop commenting here if Cruz wins Texas? Hmmm… What in it for me?

          • Not a damn thing.

          • PBunyan

            Then no, I don’t think I’ll take that bet. I’m not even sure Trump will beat Cruz in Texas, but there is a chance of that. Texans tend to like liberty and don’t want America to become part of the global Marxist dictatorship that the uniparty candidates have been working towards. We’ll just have to see next Tuesday how many of them see though Cruz’s sheep’s clothing and recognize the global Marxist underneath.

            I will say with confidence that: 1. Trump will beat Rubio in Florida, 2. Trump will beat Kashich in Ohio, 3. Trump will be the Rebublican nominee, and 4. Trump will beat the Democrat in November.

            If any of those 4 predictions don’t come to pass, I promise to never invade you safe space again.

          • fustian24

            Trump is the preferred candidate of the Hillary camp.

            They believe they will beat him decisively. It will leave them bloodied, but they WILL win.

            http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hillary-waits-to-eviscerate-trump-with-a-parade-of-his-victims/article/2584262

          • fustian24

            And your evidence for Cruz being a Marxist is?

          • PBunyan

            TPP

          • fustian24

            Not seeing that either of those things makes him a Marxist.

          • PBunyan

            I don’t know if I’ll have time to go into that explanation in detail right now, but before I even attempt that I’m curious about something: do you think Obama is a Marxist?

          • fustian24

            I think he’s a leftist and that these days, leftism is at best informed by Marxism and at worst all the way there.

          • PBunyan

            Cruz himself may not be Marxist. He may be no more than a typical, sleazy, lying lawyer without morals or ethics who can talk the talk of a conservative Christian. There is no question, though that he is more than willing to do the bidding of the big money that controls both parties. It is they who are the Marxists.

            The wealthy global elites are not Marxists in the “from each according to his abilities, etc.” sense, but that’s not really what Marxism is– that’s what it’s sold as to get slower witted people (the Democrat base for example) to buy into it. Marx, however, didn’t believe any of that crap himself. He was a con man (not unlike Cruz) and a worthless son of wealthy Europeans who lamented the fact that in earlier times he would have been a noble and thus had political power simply because he was born rich like the nobles and royals of old. What with the American and French revolutions setting precedent Marx knew the times of absolute rule and control by the wealthy were drawing to a close so he created his communist theories as a way to adapt the feudal system to contemporary mores.

            Some people call them the “GOP establishment” but that’s not the case at all. They are far beyond the GOP. They are globalists (hence their need for climate change treaties, free trade treaties, etc.) and they control both the Democrats and the Republicans. They are the puppeteers who pull the strings of Cruz, Obama, Rubio, Clinton, Kasich, and the rest– all except Trump.

            That’s what I mean when I call Cruz a Marxist. I doesn’t matter what he himself believes, it matter only that he has demonstrated that he is more than willing to do the bidding of the global Marxists.

            But it’s all moot at this point anyway. Any of you who were still holding out hope that the Trump train could be stopped are about to be slapped with the massive hand of reality today. And next Tuesday, and the Tuesday after that.

          • PBunyan
          • PBunyan

            And Goldman Sachs, and the fact that he, displaying his typical level of honesty, tried to hide the fact the Goldman Sach’s was buying his senate seat for him.

          • Scalia

            Yes, I’d also like to see evidence that Cruz is a Marxist.

          • PBunyan

            TPP for starters. Then there is Goldman Sachs, the same organization that provided most of the staff for the Obama regime, hiring his wife and funding his senate campaign, and the fact that Cruz, displaying his typical level of honesty (none), tried to hide that fact.

          • PBunyan

            Please see my reply to Fustian for more, if you’re interested.

          • Thank you for sharing…

    • Commander_Chico

      Two Cubans, one a Canadian, who have advocated free immigration from Latin America. Yeah, that’ll work.

      A case where 1 + 1 = 0.9

    • fustian24

      I don’t see Cruz agreeing to be Rubio’s Vice President and I certainly don’t see Rubio asking him.

      • Retired military

        Kasich is running for the VP Slot.

  • Yes, of course. Nothing is written.

  • fustian24

    Unless something very strange happens, Trump and Hillary each win the primary. Then the press will finally unleash the Kraken against Trump and Hillary walks into the Presidency.

    Then she shuts down the investigations into her crimes saying that the people have spoken.

    Next she names some horror to the Supreme Court.

    Amnesty follows fairly shortly and the border continues to leak like a sieve.

    As her economic policies continue to fail, she doubles down by increasing taxes on the middle class.

    Say goodbye to the good ol’ USA.

    • Take not the counsel of your fears and take action instead.

      • fustian24

        And do what?

        • Support a candidate, financially or by volunteering.

          • fustian24

            At this point it’s a fools game. A waste of time, money, and effort.

            It is going to be Hillary vs Trump and Hillary is going to win. The only thing that changes that is something like Hillary falling down in a dead faint and being hospitalized for the next 3 months. Short of something that dramatic, she’s the nominee and then the President.

            She’s already pretty much a proven liar and probably a traitor. It’s seems pretty likely she’s been selling US policy for cash for her foundation.

            When things get this corrupt, what use is donating some money to a losing candidate?

            This is a woman so incredibly stupid that she saw no need for increased security at our Libyan embassy. How is it possible, she is still in public life?

            I’m just not feeling it.

            It feels to me that our country is a kind of addict that has yet to hit rock bottom. Until it does there is nothing to be done.

          • The fools are those who stand on the sidelines and kibbutz.

          • fustian24

            Tell me something that actually makes a difference? You really think sending a few bucks toward Cruz will make any difference at all? The election is effectively over.

            The only chance at this point for Trump to lose is for everybody but Cruz or Rubio to leave immediately.

            Not happening.

            And it’s still not completely certain that would be enough.

            So. Done deal. Campaigning or contributing is a lost cause at this point.

            What is the point? I need to save my money for the increased Hillary taxes on the middle class.

            Frankly, there is something seriously wrong with a country that could vote Obama into office and then re-elect him.

            The county has changed. It’s long past time to face it.

          • You will get the President you deserve. Those of us who are acting, less so.

          • fustian24

            We’re going to get different Presidents?

            Otherwise, what are you going to do to keep Hillary and Trump out of the Presidency?

          • fustian24

            Rodney I don’t mean to be flip.

            I’m genuinely wondering if you believe you have something that will make a difference or if you feel that by “leaving it all of the field” you will at least have fought the good fight.

            I admit to being pretty discouraged this morning.

          • I’ve been contributing and volunteering since the Red State Gathering last year. I decline to be discouraged.

          • Commander_Chico

            Keep pouring money and time down the Rubio rathole.

          • Ha, Ha!

            Keep carping from the sidelines.

          • Retired military

            Same way the base (you know the one that Jeb didn’t need) felt with McCain and Romney.

          • Hank_M

            Political correctness resulted in Obama’s first term. McCain was afraid to go after the first black nominee. Note that political correctness only applied one way as the dems and media savaged the female VP nominee. War on women my ass.

            Obama’s second term was the result of Romney not fighting back and taking the so-called high road, afraid to go after both Obama and the media. Obama and the media somehow took a fine honorable person and turned him into a cancer “causing” gaffe prone rich heartless lightweight living in the past.

            A lot of people see Trump as the antidote to these attacks from the left.

            And I seriously doubt Hillary would want to run against someone like Trump. Neither she nor her enablers in the media will be able to silence or control him. They’ll finally be on the receiving end of the crap they’ve been pulling for years.

          • Trump can certainly bloody Hillary.

            Do you believe he can Govern?

          • fustian24

            No.

            I don’t even think he’s been that great a businessman.

            And I think the press is starting to gear up to destroy him. And I think they’ve got the ammo to do it with. He’s been very reckless to let it go this far.

          • Retired military

            I believe he could. Cant do much worse than Obama. I would like Cruz better.

          • Now there is a low bar if ever there was one.

          • Retired military

            True but it is a step in the right direction. Billary would be the end of the road.

          • Hank_M

            Yes. His experience managing his empire shows that.
            Look at his wikipedia page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization
            515 subsidiaries worldwide involved in more types of industries than I care to enter here. Sure, there have been bankruptcies, along with a lot of successes.

            Trump has one quality that Hillary and every other dem does not.
            He loves this country and wants to improve it.
            The dems hate this country and want to transform it.

            I could certainly be wrong about all this, but I think he’s the only one that can defeat Hillary. And that has to be accomplished at all costs.

          • I don’t see any evidence for love coming from Donald Trump unless you’re talking about self-love… and for that, there’s an abundance.

          • Retired military

            McCain was a RINO and ticked off the base. Same as Romney.

          • fustian24

            And Trump isn’t even conservative enough to be a RINO.

            This is a guy that did deals with Wall Street to build big buildings in New York. How does some bomb throwing outsider do that? He likely had to buy off democrat politicians as well. He’s corrupt by his own admission and he’s carrying around a lot of baggage.

            And God knows what creatures he partnered with when he was in the casino business.

            But we will soon enough.

            Remember, this is a man that got the vapors over one question from Megyn Kelly and still can’t face her. And in a playground fight with Rosie O’Donnell, Trump didn’t actually win.

            The press is going to destroy that man. It’s going to be truly ugly.

            You’ll see.

          • Hank_M

            “And Trump isn’t even conservative enough to be a RINO.”

            I know, What I don’t know any longer is exactly what “conservative” is.
            The last few elections have shown me being conservative is not fighting back, appeasing the left, lying to your base, and screwing the average american worker. Take the high road and lose with dignity.

            Guess I’ve had enough of that.

          • fustian24

            What has stunned me the most this election cycle is the realization that the GOP is not especially conservative. I couldn’t believe Dole talking about Cruz:

            “I question his allegiance to the party,” Dole said. “I don’t know how often you’ve heard him say the word ‘Republican’ — not very often,” he added. “Instead, Mr. Cruz uses the word ‘conservative.'”

            WTF?

            That was a real eye opener.

            As somebody that thinks leftist policies are what’s wrong with the country and that actual conservative policies are the antidote, I feel like I’m left with no outlet. Cruz is the only one that is remotely conservative as I understand the word, but I no longer see a path to victory for him.

            And Trump is simply not a conservative.

          • If Cruz best aligns with your views, then support him.

          • fustian24

            I have.

            But to what end?

            He’s still going to lose to Trump.

          • Retired military

            The media dumping on Trump is a plus for Trump. He is saying what folks say at back yard BBQ, beer joints, and home poker games all across America. The media dissing him is the media dissing the blue collars and the blue collars wont like it one bit.
            let the media say something bag about one of the GOPe candidates and they stand up and opine and talk flowery with high ideals. Trump blasts that stuff right back at them and the blue collar cheers because he is saying what they would say.

          • fustian24

            I don’t think what’s coming will be so easy for Trump to push back on. Particularly when the press stops reporting on Trump replies.

            They’re going to make him out to be a crook and a lot of what they charge him with will be indefensible. The enemy NYT already this morning outlined part of the initial campaign. Trump has apparently been stiffing lots of business partners and contractors.

            A big part of Trump’s mojo is that he’s a successful businessman, but when we start hearing every day that he’s a cheat and a crook and nobody wants to do business with him any more because of all these nice people he cheated and ruined, he’s going to look stupid and there may not be much he can say about it.

            Sure, he’ll bluster for a while. And we’ll all think to ourselves that this is just the press doing what the press does.

            But we’ll be bombarded with this stuff from everywhere. The culture will pick it up. We’ll be bombarded with clips of Trump speaking out of context.

            They’ll make him out to be a horror.

            He’ll be pleading for the chance to make his case, but none of the networks will take even his surrogates except to give them the third degree: “Did you know Trump abused women and cheated business partners? Let’s see your reaction to a mashup of Trump misogyny. Can you really work for such a man and what does it say about you?”

            Eventually even his mother will start to wonder.

            This is what it’s going to be like unless Trump has already sold us out. A possibility I wouldn’t discount.

          • Commander_Chico

            You forgot foolish wars 4 Israel.

          • Back to the old chica-puta anti-semitism…

          • Retired military

            Well Hillary damn sure isnt what the country needs and she damn sure wont close the border. At least with Trump we have a chance.

          • Hank_M

            Hillary would probably sell the border.
            Did you see this article about the dems?

            http://www.salon.com/2016/02/25/fight_the_soulless_juggernaut_big_money_machine_politics_and_the_real_issue_separating_sanders_and_clinton/

            Takeaway about Hillary….

            Democrats face a stark choice this year. A vote for the scandal-plagued Hillary is a resounding ratification of business as usual–the corrupt marriage of big money and machine politics, practiced by the Clintons with the zest of Boss Tweed, the gluttonous czar of New York’s ruthless Tammany Hall in the 1870s. What you also get with Hillary is a confused hawkish interventionism that has already dangerously destabilized North Africa and the Mideast.

          • Retired military

            As the GOPe always says about their candidate
            ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR HILLARY?

          • fustian24

            I’ll never vote for Hillary.

            But I might not vote for Trump. Right this second I am not disposed to. Trump is not a conservative and he will not bring about the kind of policies I think this country needs. I’m not even convinced he can actually close the border.

          • Commander_Chico

            Trump don’t give a fuck about the press. He has his own press.

          • fustian24

            The press has been giving Trump free publicity for a while now.

            That’s going to stop soon enough and Trump is going to be shocked. He thought those guys liked him.

            Remember, this is a guy that still doesn’t have the nerve to face Megyn.

          • Commander_Chico

            Read Scott Adams on the Megyn thing. Trump won that bigtime.

          • fustian24

            I did read it.

            Not buying it though.

            Trump is still afraid to face her.

          • Commander_Chico

            No, he’s setting it up to “confront” (or be sweet to) her at a time of his choosing, to suck media attention. Basic WWE.

          • fustian24

            Maybe.

            We’ll see.

          • Retired military

            I disagree with sending a few bucks. I let the RNC know NOT ONE RED CENT until the RINOs are out of leadership. They don’t care. They have the chamber of commerce money.

          • Hank_M

            I did the same thing. Why support people that won’t represent me.

          • Commander_Chico

            Kibitz. A kibbutz is an agricultural commune.

          • Back on the sideline, putz.

          • Retired military

            That is why I am hoping Hillary strokes out in the middle of the 3rd debate on live tv.
            Also don’t forget that Bernie supporters wont automatically vote for her or even vote at all. Most despise her.

          • Commander_Chico

            Trump is the only one who can beat Hillary.

          • fustian24

            Actually I disagree.

            Outside of Bush, I think Trump is the least likely to beat Hillary.

            The enemy press is going to pull out ALL the heavy artillery for Hillary and Trump has the most to work with.

            They’ve been carrying his water until now because Trump is the most destroyable. But as soon as Trump is the nominee for sure, the press will turn.

          • Commander_Chico

            Trump will get his message out and Hillary has nothing to run on except a cunt.

          • fustian24

            And what media will he use?

            Fox?

            They don’t like him.

            As for the rest, it’s going to be dump on Trump 24/7. The NYT led with a little article today showing some of the lines they’ll use. They’re going to start with all the people Trump has cheated over the years. Those that refuse to do business with him any more. Contractors Trump never paid. We’re going to see people that have a hard time feeding their family because Trump was to much of a cheat to pay.

            There’s also a documentary a British lady did on Trump where he tried to sweet talk her clumsily for a better outcome and failed. She says that American media are all buying anything negative about Trump they can get their hands on.

            The perfect example of why you’re wrong is Hillary herself. When she ran against Obama, the press stopped reporting anything she said. Her surrogates were forced to go on Fox, the only network that will still say anything about her. I remember Manny Davis talking about how they couldn’t get on the air at any of the networks as soon as Obama showed up on the scene.

            Like McCain, Trump thinks the press likes him and that he can handle them. Lots of his followers are making the same mistake.

            They’re going to be very surprised when things change.

          • Hank_M

            The media will do the same to any republican nominee.

          • fustian24

            Certainly.

            The difference is we know that Trump has genuine skeletons in his closet. There is so much to work with that it will make it that much more effective.

            We can pretty much only run saints for this reason.

            And if there’s one thing Trump is not, it’s a saint.

          • Commander_Chico

            Social.media has changed everything in the last 8 years.

          • fustian24

            Again, that’s a medium completely dominated by the left, so when the culture turns, that especially means social media.

            And it’s not clear that the people Trump would need to reach to get elected are on social media.

          • Retired military

            “has nothing to run on except a c*nt and a record of disaster ”
            She is going to run on Huma?

          • Retired military

            But you have to remember that Trump wont hesitate to go where other candidates feared with Hillary. They want their DC cocktail parties and nice stories in the NY Times and not to be called racist. Trump has proven that he can throw the artillery right back at Hillary and the media and still come up smelling like a rose.

          • fustian24

            First, remember that for Hillary, this isn’t just an election. Her personal freedom may rely on winning. I imagine there is nothing she will not stoop to in order to win and that goes for the sycophantic democrat press as well. With as many as 3 Supreme Court seats in play, they see real victory coming.

            Trump is going to be very surprised soon. The poor sap thinks he’s some media darling and that he has personal friends in the media and that he knows how to handle the press.

            Except they’ve been carrying his water hoping against hope he’s the candidate.

            Why?

            Because Trump has the most baggage.

            The entire culture is going to suddenly turn on Trump.

            They’re going to start by detailing every crap business deal he’s ever made. All those businessmen burned by Trump that will no longer do business with him because he’s a crook and a thug. We’ll hear from all the contractors that Trump never paid. We’ll see families struggling to make it because trump is a cheat.

            We’ll all laugh at first and say, well that’s just the press doing their thing to Republicans and we’ll mostly ignore it.

            But that’s just softening up the ground.

            Then we’re going to hear what creatures he partnered with to be in the casino business and whatever crimes were committed in his name. We’ll learn about the legal shenanigans it takes to get buildings built in New York and Trump will be tied closely to hated Wall Street bankers and corrupt politicians. That’s when it gets hard to ignore and hard to simply laugh off. Trump will bluster but it will become clear that he has no real defense against such charges. The business cheating will start to look more relevant and even his supporters will begin to waver.

            There’s going to video loops put together of every offensive and stupid and contradictory thing he’s ever said. They will be played every day making him look like a complete idiot. They’ll be on every news show, on all of the daytime talk shows as well as the late night ones. They’ll be trending on youtube.

            Next, they’re probably already lining up a number of women that will claim that Trump committed sexual assault or even rape. Doesn’t even have to be true.

            And he’ll try to tell his side because that worked before, only now he gets zero air time unless he’s facing questions about rape or about illegal or shady business dealings and all they’ll do is cut his comments out of context to make him look horrible.

            His unpopularity will affect other Republicans running because what kind of party elects that kind of man to be their Presidential candidate?

            Trump and his people in desperation will plead for time on Megyn Kelly’s show.

            In the meantime, every Hollywood star, every comedian, every left-wing pundit, and every popular singer will be tweeting the most horrible things about Trump every day.

            In the end, he’ll be a national laughingstock and Hillary will win easily.

          • Retired military

            No matter has more baggage than Hillary.
            Also this isnt a matter of jail for Hillary. This is a matter of her self ego and affirmation which for her means much more. This has been her goal for past 50 years or so.
            All the more reason I want to see her stroke out in the middle of the 3rd debate.

          • Hank_M

            Sure the press will turn on him.
            And unlike the others, he’ll fire back bringing up everything that Hillary has done, lied about and sold her soul for. Hell, he’ll probably go after
            some reporters also.

            There’s going to be a risk going after Trump. He won’t be the pinata
            others have been.

          • fustian24

            That’s what his supporters are counting on.

            But he hasn’t seen the culture turn on him like it will soon. He’ll be a hated figure before he ever gets to Hillary.

          • Hank_M

            I see where you’re coming from but I tend to think (and hope) it’ll backfire as has every other attack on him. It isn’t going to be the culture that turns on him, it’s going to be the so-called ruling class. The class that hates the country and the average law abiding working (or wanting to work) americans. I think the more they savage him, the stronger he’ll become.

            I could be wrong of course.

          • fustian24

            The culture is bought and paid for by the left. Hollywood? The schools? The papers? The media? The artists?

            All lefties.

            And the left is pretty much the ruling class these days. Wall Street, just for example, are the guys that buy the New York Times.

          • Retired military

            “he hasn’t seen the culture turn on him ”

            But Trump likes being an ass. He revels in it.
            He will consider it a compliment.
            As far as the press giving him a pass. Have you watched any of the debates? It has been antiTrump all the time.

          • fustian24

            I agree they aren’t actively supporting him.

            But I do think they’ve allowed him to dominate the airtime and thus the discussion.

            And in my opinion, they have also held their most effective fire. They aren’t talking about any of his shady business practices or any of his associations with Wall Street or any of his misogynist quotes. I think they could be really piling on already but they aren’t yet. They want Trump to be the nominee still.

            It’s Cruz they’re destroying. Firstly they’re completely ignoring him. When he gets any mention at all it’s always about failure. Failure to score with evangelicals. The mistake of repeating CNN political gossip. Over a teensy technicality that seems to have made no difference in Iowa, the narrative is that Cruz is a liar but not Trump or Rubio. That’s rich!

            If I’m right, you’ll notice a serious change once Trump is the nominee

    • Retired military

      Same thing happens if Rubio gets in.

      • Bullsh*t.

        • fustian24

          Well it’s pretty clear that no matter what he’s saying to get elected, Rubio intends for all of the illegals to be voting citizens.

          That’s a deal breaker for many of us.

          • I think that’s mostly rhetoric… but I’m willing to read something of substance that can back that up if you have it.

          • Retired military

            Rick I already stated what I believe would happen if Rubio is elected. Full blown amnesty in 4 years. Chamber of commerce owns him and he will deliver. Then democrat rule for 40 years. By the time you are 75 you wont recognize the US as a democratic country anymore.

          • fustian24

            I believe he said this on O’Reilly just a few nights ago:

            “As far as the 12 million here that are, look, I don’t believe the American people support some sort of militaristic roundup of individuals, and I don’t think you could carry it out, the sort of tactics that would require would offend the American people. And the good news is we don’t have to do it that way. If you secure our border, if you secure our border, if you put in place mandatory E-Verify, if you put in place a mandatory entry-exit tracking system, if we prove to the American people that illegal immigration is finally under control, I think the American people will respond in a very rational, reasonable, but responsible way.”

            A question for Rubio is: If the Congress sends you a bill that calls for extensive measures for securing the border but contains nothing “comprehensive”, will you sign it?

            A second question: If Congress refuses to provide a path to citizenship even after the border is secured, will you enforce our laws and require that illegals leave our country?

            My guess is that he will not be able to answer either question.

          • Rubio’s words sound one helluva lot more reasonable and prudent than anything Trump has said.

            You have good questions though… and I’d like to see his answers to them. As I would any candidate running…

          • fustian24

            This is entirely about more voters for the democrats and don’t let anybody tell you differently.

            You can tell by Cruz’s poison pill in the Gang of Eight bill. You can offer up to the democrats every other thing on their list, but if you don’t let illegals vote right now, it’s a no go.

            If this were really about the poor illegals, the idiots would get together and close that border for real.

            Then we can start talking about solutions. But blanket amnesty cannot be an option. It’s not fair.

          • Commander_Chico

            Rubio wants to fight Russia in behalf of Al Qaeda over Syria.

          • Jwb10001

            Trump wants to invade Iraq for oil.

          • Jwb10001

            Trump wants to set up a safe refugee camp in Syria, how does he do that without a no fly zone?

          • Jwb10001

            Trump is a proud draft dodger.

          • Jwb10001

            Trump has connections to the Russian mob.

          • Jwb10001

            Trump wants the government to take personal property and give it to his rich 1% buddies for casino parking lots.

          • Jwb10001

            Trump wants the government to have a back door into your i-phone

          • Jwb10001

            Trump wants to waterboard and do worse to suspected terrorist.

          • Jwb10001

            Trump uses illegal aliens on his building projects.

    • PBunyan

      The people who are dumb enough to believe “the press” were never going to vote for Trump anyway. “The press”, i.e. the propaganda wing of the global Marxists/uniparty will have little effect on Trump’s support.

      • fustian24

        And the people that “believe” aren’t enough to elect him.

        • PBunyan

          We’ll see. It’s a long way to November. Trump has a long time and a crap-load of money to make his case. But we will, for sure, get a chance to see whether he does beat Clinton or not. I think he will and it will be a nice change. Worse case scenario he won’t be any worse the Obama was or any of the other uniparty candidates would be.

  • JWH

    Well, if you don’t like Trump … you might have to settle for Hillary.

    • That is an outcome to be avoided.

      • JWH

        In seriousness … if it’s Hillary vs. Trump, which would you choose?

        • If you have to ask you have not been paying attention.

          • fustian24

            But we have been.

            Trump is sounding a lot like he’s auditioning for a place on the View lately. Bush lied. Apple needs to create a backdoor to their phones. We need to keep the healthcare mandate.

            And frankly I’ve stopped believing Trump will secure the border either. I suspect he’ll do some band-aid and declare victory.

            There are a lot of serious people that simply cannot vote for Trump.

            And that’s BEFORE the enemy press starts demonizing him.

          • Retired military

            Press demonizing him is a plus. He will gladly throw bombs right back at them. Something GOPe candidates wont do.
            Remember Gringrich in the debates when he said “No I don’t want to talk about my maritial issues.”
            Standing applause.

          • fustian24

            We’ll see.

            Remember, this is a guy that won’t stand up to Megyn Kelly and he even let Rosie O’Donnell get his goat.

            Hillary’s vote count is going to be depressed once the Sanders supporters realize they never had a chance.

            So this means it has to get REALLY ugly for Trump.

            Romney may be the most decent man to run in a long while and look what they did to him.

          • Retired military

            Romney was a RINO pure and simple. Sorry but I call them as I see them.

          • fustian24

            No question.

            But that’s not my point. My point is that the press can take someone’s best feature and make people believe the opposite.

            Obama is an arrogant piece of work, but the press hung that instead on Romney who is, by all accounts, a very decent man.

            In a similar vein, there is one President who was a genuine athlete. Not just okay, but a real stud. Do you know who?

            Gerald Ford.

            He was a collegiate football star and was recruited by the NFL.

            But the press turned that absolute stud into a stumblebum, whereas Clinton who put himself into a cast stumbling around the Oval office one morning, and Obama who is a pencil neck pantywaist don’t get a mention. But it’s FORD that’s the stumblebum?

            That’s the power of the press. And Trump is going to get it full bore should he get the nomination.

        • Commander_Chico

          Neocons like Rodney have already declared for Hillary. Max Boot, for example.

        • Commander_Chico

          Neocons like Rodney have already declared for Hillary. Max Boot, for example.

  • Retired military

    in 2017 Ginsberg will be 83, Kennedy will be 80, Breyer 78
    Would rather Hillary get a chance to replace them or Trump? I would prefer Cruz but will take Trump over HIllary and Rubio. He is like a box of chococates. You never know what you are going to get. Rubio is permanent amnesty and will only be Pres 4 years + we lose the senate and House within 4 years thanks to all the new democrat voters.

    • JWH

      He is like a box of chococates. You never know what you are going to get.

      Chocolate?

      • Retired military

        Chocolate Chococate Potatoe Potato

        • JWH

          Wasn’t going after the typo. Just saying your average box of chocolate contains chocolates.

  • formwiz

    If Rubio, Kasich, and Carson all dropped out, the One True Ted would still find a way to come in third.

    Rubio might have a shot, but it would seem that train has sailed, too.

    • Commander_Chico

      Because they suck.

      • The suckage is stronger with your man Chico… 🙂

  • Assuming you folks have seen this but if not, it’s a good related read

  • Retired military

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/marco-rubio-nevada-win-states

    Rubio: ‘You Don’t Win The Nomination By How Many States You Win’

    Technically true but it helps to umm win states instead of coming in 2nd and 3rd in all of them.

    “I’m as conservative as anyone in this race, but I’m the conservative that can unify the Republican Party,” Rubio said.

    No you arent and umm no you arent.

    Your gang of 8 shows you are as democrat lite.

    Your Romney endorsement (when it comes) show you as a democrat lite

    Your Lyndsey Grahamnesty endorsement shows you as a democrat lite.

    “”Well, we feel great in every one of those states. We’re going to pick up delegates in all of them,” he said, adding that he doesn’t want to offer specific predictions.

    Umm NO YOU ARENT, especially in big states Texas and Ohio where you will finish a distant 3rd.

    • Boy Blunder, but still better than the entire democrat field…

  • Retired military

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/336092/

    REPORT: IT’S OVER— Anti-Trump Republicans Stop Funding Ads Against Front-Runner

  • cathymv

    I swear, I had no idea that OMalley quit the race…… was it even in the news? did anyone know that he was running? hmmmmmmmmm

  • Paul Hooson

    No. Funding will quickly dry up for his rivals who are increasingly seen as lost causes. Trump could possibly best Rubio in Florida, Cruz in Texas, and Kasich in Ohio, quickly ending their efforts.

  • Retired military

    I read this

    http://thelibertyzone.com/2016/02/24/dear-establishment-i-blame-you/

    and I find very little wrong with it.

  • Retired military

    Wondering waht a Trump admin would look like.

    Maybe Haley as VP . Probably will be someone like Kasich or Rubio for their states.

    Tout Cruz as SCOTUS nominee. Conservatives would jump on that and it would be a sharp stick in the eye of the Senate republican RINOs.

    Sec Def most likely a retired general like Shelton (I believe is his name) who ran the SPEC OPS for a few years.

    Maybe Ann Coulter as press secretary. Would be fun to watch the press conferences then.

    Any other thoughts for these or other positions.

  • 914

    Trump is President 45!