HomeDonald TrumpHave you? Have you? Rick March 1, 2016 Donald Trump, Politicians, Politics 116 Comments I have just done my part to thwart the Trumpfoonery clutching at the throat of my beloved country. Have you? Crossposted at Brutally Honest. Oh No! Not Another Church Sex Scandal! Is Ted Cruz cracking up? Share this:FacebookTwitterRedditEmailMoreLinkedInPinterestPrintTumblrPocketGoogle Related Posts Who Is Brenda Morris? DeLay on Short List for OMB John Kerry: Grace under fire? About The Author Rick I blog more regularly at my own place where plain thoughts are delivered roughly. My about page gives you more on who I am. Wild_Willie I do not tell anyone but my wife who I vote for. Having said that, everyone who passes the test to qualify to run has every right to run. That is this country’s basic right and makes us unique. I think America got it very wrong the last two cycles. No one running now can do worse. I think Rubio shouldn’t run for the same reasons I didn’t want Obama to run. Not enough experience and that lack of experience showed many times. ww rodney dill Keep calm and Trump on. PBunyan The global Marxists appreciate your efforts to get one of their candidates elected, Rick. They love “useful” fellows like yourself. Sadly all you ill informed or idiotic Trump haters are about to be slapped by the giant hand of reality today. And next Tuesday, and the Tuesday after that. Then you can start posting about how you’re going to vote for whomever the Democrats end up nominating. (Probably someone other than Clinton or Sanders. Just wait.) Brucehenry “Global Marxists” lol. We have gleaned from your previous musings that you have bought into some concocted crackpot revisionist version of Western history, one in which the royals and aristocrats of the Ancien Regime somehow morphed into what you call “Global Marxists” of today. Kooky stuff. And only a boated egomaniacal reality TV star with the vocabulary of a ninth-grader can save us from the “Global Marxism” that what you call “the uniparty” has imposed on all us sheeple. Yeah sure. Scalia Ninth-grader? I think you need to go lower than that. 🙂 PBunyan If there’s any difference between the Republicans and the Democrats, then why did nothing change in 2010 or 2014? Why did the Republicans give Obama everything he wanted. Any why has Obama ran the government on George Bush’s 2008 budget his entire 2 terms? Most of the people are waking up to the fact that the modern “two party system” is an illusion, kept in place from earlier days so useful idiots, like yourself and some authors and many other posters on this site can feel like they’re making a choice. Those who are awake and paying attention are the ones not voting for the same old-same old. “The Democrats are socialists!” “The Republicans are fascists!” No they’re not. They are both the exact same f’ing thing!!! They are funded by the exact same big money and both do the bidding the big money. Call them whatever you want if you’re too stupid to understand what Marxism really is. It’s not a secret. It’s not hidden. You just have to turn of your t.v. and pay attention. Or you can be a useful idiot. Brucehenry Oh okay when you put it like that it doesn’t sound so kooky lol. Commander_Chico Neoconservatives declare war on Trump: https://theintercept.com/2016/02/29/neoconservatives-declare-war-on-donald-trump/ He has the right enemies. Brucehenry So does Bernie and he’s not an egomaniacal gameshow host and buffoon. Commander_Chico Bernie has no chance, DNC rigged game against him. Retired military Will give you 100-1 odds that wont happen. Winner names charity Commander_Chico At 100-1 odds I’ll bet $10. Don’t want to spoil your year too much. I don’t think she’ll be charged either but chance that someone in DOJ will ram it through. Information or indictment before convention. PBunyan You’re a Bernie Sanders supporter and you lol at me? That’s precious. Retired military And he has ZERO chance of getting elected (Thank Heavens)., Wild_Willie Sanders reminds me of one of the two grouchy old men that sat in the balcony during the Muppets Show. Always bitching and looking mean. ww Zelsdorf No, you are right. Bernie did not have a paying job till he was 40. By that time Trump was already a billionaire. You? Doc Musgrove Wrong! He is definitely a buffoon. Brucehenry “Those who are awake and paying attention are the ones not voting for the same old-same old.” Which explains your enthusiastic support for Nader in 2000 and Gary Johnson in 2012, I guess. Scalia Who would have guessed Nader was a conservative. I wish somebody had told me. Brucehenry Trump’s not a conservative either but Bunyan is saying he’s the only one who can save us from the same old same old. Commander_Chico Call them Marxists or not, there is a vanguard pushing globalism and destroying livelihoods of American workers. Brucehenry Yes I agree but I was smirking at this Bunyan guy’s particular crackpot theory. Commander_Chico It’s not crackpot in its essence. Brucehenry So what? The “roots” of both communism and fascism are in Darwin, but that doesn’t make Darwin wrong or responsible for the crimes of Hitler or Stalin. Everything in history has its “roots” elsewhere. The EU, for example, is not evidence that Europe is run by “global Bonapartists.” This Bunyan character’s assertion, on another thread, that “the uniparty” has been pushing an agreed-upon agenda “since Woodrow Wilson” implies there was no difference between Hoover and FDR, Goldwater and Johnson, Reagan and Mondale. That’s crackpot. Now, do I agree that both parties get funding from the same interests? Of course I do, and Bunyan’s view of both parties since the 90s has some merit, thanks to Bill and the DLC. But his implied assertion that there is a cabal consciously manipulating the sheeple and that Goldman Sachs is in any way “Marxist” is preposterous and yes, crackpot. Commander_Chico “Privatize profits and socialize losses” is the ideology of GS. Not quibbling on the timeline, but PBunyan is right on the current uniparty oligarchy. JWH I am sympathetic to the notion that Republican and Democratic leaders are part of a calcified political system that is woefully out of touch with the average American. But I question the notion that this latter-day Tom Coughlin is the answer. Brucehenry What this guy said! Commander_Chico Really? Tom Coughlin is an asshole but he won two Super Bowls. Brucehenry I guess that’s a joke but just in case, he was referring to Father Coughlin the radio demagogue from the 1930s. Commander_Chico Ho-hum, why not just say Hitler! or Mussolini! Brucehenry Because Trump doesn’t rise to that level and hopefully never will. Coughlin is a better example. Or maybe the fictionalized Lindbergh in Roth’s novel “The Plot Against America.” Commander_Chico So because the neocons suspect Trump will not follow their line of foolish bellicosity in the Middle East and says the war in Iraq was a mistake, he’s an anti-Semite on par with Coughlin or Lindbergh? I don’t get it. Brucehenry Well I can’t speak for JWH but I suspect he’s not (I’m not) saying Trump’s an anti-Semite, just a rabble-rouser — like Coughlin. And a proto-fascist and racist er umm I mean “nativist” — like Lindbergh. When he calls for unConstitutional discrimination against Muslims and stirs up fear and hatred of Latinos he reveals himself to be no better than Coughlin. But Trump, like a stopped clock, is absolutely right that we need no more war in the Middle East. SO IS BERNIE. Commander_Chico The rabble needs to be roused. Trump has said some bad things sure, but most is media taking things out of context or distorting. Hey, I’d love to see Bernie get the nomination and would consider voting for him – even over Trump, but he’s not going to get the nomination unless DOJ follows the rule of law wrt Hillary. Brucehenry Hillary would be bad — will be bad — but Trump will be an embarrassment and a disaster we will never get over. At best he’s a Berlusconi. But the US is not as inconsequential as Italy and can’t afford a buffoon like him. Commander_Chico I think we could afford a Berlusconi, would be much better than Hillary wanting to play the Iron Lady and starting WW III and endlessly signaling her social justice virtues by stomping her black pump on the faces of men, white men in particular. I spent a lot of time in Italy in the Berlusconi years, it wasn’t bad at all. Brucehenry When you go all “men’s rights” on us I give up. FEMINAZIS! Commander_Chico C’mon, there are real lunatics out there that the likes of Kristen Gillibrand and Hillary pander to. They want to lower the standard of proof for rape to “she said so, guilty!” Also look at the outrageous suppression of free speech on campuses. Brucehenry Retired military Well Obama has the crown there and no one will take it from him. Trump will have both houses of congress to limit any damage, unless of course he goes full Obama and rules by fiat, even then SCOTUS will be able to keep him in check. Plus Trump will want to get reelected so he wont go too far off the rails. Retired military “unless DOJ follows the rule of law wrt Hillary” Good luck with that. She could kill a child on the WH Lawn in full view of MSM and they will talk about her being supportive of very late term abortion. Commander_Chico Ok I’m in for $10. You’re in for $1000. JWH sorry, I meant Charles Coughlin. Commander_Chico March 2, 2016 PBunyan I truly wish it was someone other than Trump. But it’s not. I don’t love Trump. Don’t even like him very much. He can be a real dick some times. Some of the things he says make cringe. However, overriding all that is the simple fact that the enemy of my enemies is my friend. Commander_Chico Agree, but Trump might turn out to be a good president, practical and populist in domestic economic policy and realist in foreign policy. rodney dill Sort of the way I feel. I don’t think his caustic manner and apparent buffoonery will necessarily carry over into his administration, at least not to the same extent. It’s sort of like judging his business acuity based on his appearances on The Apprentice. …and we already pretty much know what sort of buffoonery to expect from Hillary if she’s elected. PBunyan True that. A lot of people see his massive ego as a negative, but I think it will work in our favor. He will do the right things because of his need to be loved, unlike the Republicans and Democrats who constantly piss on us and tell us it’s just raining. Hank_M I’ve thought the same thing about his need for approval driving his governance. As for the massive ego thing, I have never seen a bigger one than Barry O’s. And that was never considered a negative for him. Hell, some referred to him as being a “sort of a god”. Chico’s right in that he “might” be a good president. With the others, Cruz excepted, all we’ll get is the same old same old, or worse if the congenital liar is elected. Brucehenry You guys are projecting your hopes onto Trump without the slightest evidence that what you HOPE will happen will actually, you know, happen. “He will do the right things because of his need to be loved.” Hmmmph. Was there ever a president who needed to be loved more desperately than LBJ? Do you think he, consequently, “did the right things?” How about Nixon? There was a guy who had a truly pathetic need to be loved. How did that work out for the country? Walter_Cronanty “You guys are projecting your hopes onto Trump without the slightest evidence that what you HOPE will happen will actually, you know, happen.” Kind of like what happened in the last two elections. Brucehenry Actually, what happened in the last two elections was pretty much what I expected. We got a weak-ass but more universal version of health care insurance reform, some reform to rein in some of the worst abuses of the big banks, and a president who didn’t want to overturn Roe v Wade or to persecute gay people. Sure I HOPED for more but got pretty much what I expected. By contrast, these guys are just whiffin’. They think Trump “might” be a good president because they “think he may” tone down the bizarre buffoonery, and that he just might “do the right things” because of his “need for love and approval.” No evidence that any of those things will happen, just conjecture. Doc Musgrove I suggest you reflect on Hilary’s record. PBunyan LBJ was before my time. Nixon was a good President. It was a shame the evil Marxists in the press/democrat party took him out. It’s a crying shame how many in South Vietnam were killed outright or forced to live under the communist regime that the evil, Marxist Democrats gave the country to after Nixon and the US military defeated them. Brucehenry LBJ was before your time and apparently Nixon was too.Nixon sabotaged the Paris Peace Talks while still a candidate in 1968, prolonged the war for 4 more years so 20,000 more Americans and countless Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Laotians could be killed, and then settled for EXACTLY THE SAME TERMS JOHNSON HAD NEGOTIATED. Nixon sicced the FBI and the IRS on his political enemies and broke law after law in his vendettas against the counterculture and the patriotic Americans who opposed the war in Vietnam. Ever hear of the “Plumbers”? No of course you haven’t because you, I’m sorry to say but it’s plain as day, are a historical ignoramus. You know nothing of history or what the definition of “Marxist” is, and it’s obvious as hell you wouldn’t recognize a “good president” if one walked up and kicked you in the nuts. PBunyan Wow, you delusional, moronic fantasies about Nixon more accurately describe Obama. Brucehenry What a shocker that you would attempt to say “Obama was worse.” Typical wingnut deflection. Get a fucking history book and read about the Vietnam War. You know nothing. PBunyan By the way, if you decide to leave the country after Trump is elected in November, I’ll gladly chip in to cover the cost of your ticket. We don’t need your kind around here anyway. (Well the comic relief is nice. You almost had my soda coming out my nose.) Brucehenry Who said anything about leaving? I’ll be right here. PBunyan It’s just what a lot of you douche-bag useful idiots say at times like that. I just wish a few of you would actually do it. Brucehenry I’m only arguing with you. Your crackpot wingnut ideas are not exactly the same as many other wingnuts, although I have heard a few of the crazier ones spouting similar stuff about Woodrow Wilson and “global Marxism” and yada yada. So I’m not going to assume that YOU will be emigrating if and when Hillary takes office in 2017. But if you do, you can pay your own way. Bootstraps, baby. PBunyan I wouldn’t leave– I’ve survived Obama, although tens of thousands of dollars poorer for the experience– but the rapist’s wife won’t even end up being your candidate. They’ll have her indicted and forced to step down after she destroys the crazy communist old coot in the primaries. The Dems are pure evil, but not stupid– they know they’ll need an ultra popular celebrity to even have a snowball’s chance in hell against Trump. Even if I was packing up and shipping out, I could afford it, though. I just thought I’d offer you some help, what with being a smelly hippie and all, you probably need it. Brucehenry Yes you have me pegged. Very smelly. But when it comes to history, especially history of the period I have lived through, I at least know my ass from my elbow, unlike Virtuous Self Made Man you. Retired military I will quote Rick Here Have you Say NO to Trump? NO Rick Umm… you’re not quoting me exactly now are you? But that’s ok… this is likely how you also quote the Pope… 🙂 Retired military I call them as I see them. I would prefer Cruz but Trump will do in a pinch. Rick #NeverTrump Retired military There are none so blind as those who cannot see. The one eyed man is king in the land of the blind. Better half a loaf than none A bird in the hand is better than 2 in the BUSH!!!!. Hank_M No. I plan to give my middle finger to the GOP establishment later today. Seem only right to return the favor to them being that they’ve been doing that to me and mine for years now. Paul Hooson I am so heartened to see so many Republican leaders condemn David Duke and the KKK. Donald Trump suddenly cannot recall David Duke or the KKK to appeal to some Super Tuesday voters. The next big issue that Trump needs to be confronted on is his many financial dealings worth many millions of dollars to a number of organized crime figures both in Atlantic City and in other areas. Do voters really want to elect someone who has such a close relationship to organized crime, plus admires dictators like Vladimir Putin, Saddam Hussein or Kim Jong-Un. Trump is a rude and nasty bigoted associate of organized crime who would use the FBI, CIA and other agencies to rule like a dictator. Commander_Chico Don’t believe the MSM propaganda. Brucehenry Or our lying eyes? Commander_Chico Example of MSM propaganda. An old trick -“you must denounce your fringe supporters” tried on Obama in 2008. Brucehenry And adroitly dealt with by Obama in 08, but this clown can’t seem to manage it. Commander_Chico Not really, no way of dealing with it. Ayers and Farrakhan still haunt Obama. Pretty much standard rule you don’t denounce your own supporters only their wrongful actions. Brucehenry Ayers and Farrakhan only “haunt” Obama in the minds of kooks. By contrast EVERYONE agrees the Klan is an evil cult. Commander_Chico But really, is any individual Klan member free today worse than Ayers, who was a bomber, or Farrakhan, complicit in the murder of Malcolm X and just as racist as the KKK? You’re just applying different standards. In the end you will have a choice between corporate crony corrupta warmonger Hillary or economic populist anti-war Trump, Bruce. Are you telling me you’ll vote for Hillary? Brucehenry And again, Obama handled questions about those guys to the satisfaction of most people. Only kooks still pretend Obama embraces them. Trump pretends he never heard of David Duke even though he’s on record knowing about him and his record in 2000. Trump is not qualified to be president. Commander_Chico You’re down to a subjective “most people” argument. But Obama never denounced Ayers or Farrakhan per se, only their past actions. Objectively not much different than what Trump says minus media spin. As a well-traveled worldly executive of a huge enterprise, Trump is as qualified as anyone else in the race. Brucehenry Temperamentally unqualified. Running a superpower is not like running a business empire. Commander_Chico The “temprament” is a successful campaign strategy. See Scott Adams and the Jon Favreau tweet I posted. I’m not saying he’ll be Dwight Eisenhower or Jimmy Carter, but he will change and moderate tone. Commander_Chico https://t.co/3hE7YBSBxm— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) March 2, 2016 Retired military After 8 years of Obama do we still qualify as a superpower? Retired military With Billary’s handling of classified material is she qualified to be president? Or should she just stick to Bimbo eruptions.? Hank_M “Obama handled questions about those guys to the satisfaction of most people” No he didn’t. The media decided the questions were off limits and dropped the subject. For an example, look at Yglesias’ defense in the Atlantic, the article titled: “Obama, Ayers, and Guilt By Association” Brucehenry Two things. One, Farrakhan seems to like Trump pretty good these days: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/louis-farrakhan-donald-trump-220021 And two, WHAT “economic populism”?? His tax plan favors the rich, he employs illegal aliens and exploits them, and the only policy I’ve heard him explicitly claim as his own is the building of a giant wall which he claims, absurdly, that another country will pay for. Hank_M Obama dealt with it adroitly? First time I’ve seen outright lying referred to that way. Scalia And Reagan replied to a similar question thusly: “Those of us in public life can only resent the use of our names by those who seek political recognition for the repugnant doctrines of hate they espouse. ”The politics of racial hatred and religious bigotry practiced by the Klan and others have no place in this country, and are destructive of the values for which America has always stood.” Brucehenry And Trump, who had days to come up with that before Tapper asked him the question, could have said, “well, as Ronald Reagan once said…” Instead we got “hey I don’t think I ever met David Duke I’ll get back to you.” Sky__Captain I just don’t see the need for a narcissistic megalomaniac of a bully to be President. We’ve already had that since 2009, and look how that has turned out. Commander_Chico Get used to saying President Trump. Retired military Better that than a crooked lying megalomaniac +3 45 year old GInsbergs on SCOTUS within the next 4 years. yetanotherjohn I voted. I researched the candidates (presidential, statewide, county, etc.). Personally, I support Reagan’s 11th commandment. There is no presidential candidate in the Republican field who I think would make a worse president than Hillary or Sanders. I admit that is a very low bar. Paul Hooson Both Sanders and Clinton will be facing new scandals because of illegal foreign campaign donations to their campaigns. Both campaigns failed to control this problem and it will soon haunt them, creating new controversy. yetanotherjohn On the other hand, Obama skated on his illegal campaign contributions. The media won’t pursue either campaign on the issue, though they would declare the end of the world if they could find an illegal dollar went to the GOP. Commander_Chico So much foreign money can flow into elections now because of Citizens United case. No way of checking origin of PAC money, comes in through Delaware shell corporations. You can be sure there are foreign intelligence services and business interests working to manipulate the election. yetanotherjohn Actually, for Obama it was disabling the standard credit card vetting that allowed him to rake in foreign contributions. Can you show even one penny of foreign money coming in vie citizens united? Commander_Chico Ya. http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/02/11/feds-mexican-tycoon-exploited-super-pacs-to-influence-u-s-elections/ It’s obvious how it can be done. yetanotherjohn Lindsey Graham on CBS just now: “we may be in a position where we have to rally around Ted Cruz.” I’m starting to think there are some in the GOP who really do want to stop Trump, given that this is from the guy who said it would be okay to kill Cruz on the senate floor. Commander_Chico It’s over. Trump train can’t be stopped. yetanotherjohn Well chico, you stand to make a lot of money with your inside knowledge of politics by betting on Hillary to win it all. Unless you wouldn’t be brave enough to put your money where your mouth is. Commander_Chico That’s a bet contingent on Cruz being nominee, which is na ga happen. By the way, someone check on Rodney before there’s a bad smell from his room. Yesterday might have been too much for him to take. Commander_Chico Trump’s playing the game perfectly. I predict landslide over Hillary in November. https://t.co/weBFjvLGe8— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) March 2, 2016 Retired military In other news Mittons is probably going to announce that he endorses Rubio or else he is going to do a 3rd party run. In either case, LOL. At best, he will do nothing but embarrass himself at worse he will hand Clinton the presidency (which may be the plan. the GOPe can say see. Trump didn’t win look at what you did). Commander_Chico Who could be more Establishment than Romney? What an asshole. Commander_Chico Could Romney suck anymore than he does now? Brucehenry No, he couldn’t. He was happy as hell to have Birther Trump’s endorsement in 2012. Now he is horrified that Trump will be the next GOP standard bearer, The Establishment Republicans spent decades pandering to the lowest common denominator, because the rubes kept them in power. They laughed as they, every four years, played up fears of commies, hippies, queers, Mexicans, Muslims, and of course blacks. They figured waving the flag and invoking Jesus would keep the rubes in line indefinitely. Now the Frankenstein monster they created has broken his wrist straps and is wrecking the laBORatory and they are terrified. Too bad those who wield the torches and pitchforks are on the monster’s side. Commander_Chico The monster was misunderstood in that story, he was well meaning and gentle. So it’s turning out better this time. Again, Bernie ain’t gonna make it. Your choices are Trump or Hillary. Trump would be better and safer than corrupt warmonger Hillary. Brucehenry Bernie will most likely indeed fail to get the nomination. However he is pushing Hillary far left enough so that her supporters will expect a certain tilt to her policies once in office. She will take positions she won’t be able to just walk away from. By contrast Trump has no positions — none. Your hope that he would be a safer and less corrupt choice is just that — a hope, wholly without evidence that it will become a reality. Meanwhile he acts the fool, appalling public opinion in Europe, Japan, and elsewhere. I get it that you fear Hillary may try to out-macho Republican warmongers. But I think her advisers will persuade her not to over-react to this or that stimulus. Trump will be advised by — who? The same old neocons who always latch on to GOP administrations. Commander_Chico How can the neocons get in with Trump after they’ve denounced him so vehemently and said they prefer Hillary? Hillary means war with Iran and maybe Russia. So she can be Iron Lady. She’s also a slimy dishonest trimmer. Brucehenry “I think” that because Democrats are advised by guys like Cyrus Vance and Republicans by guys like Kissinger and Rumsfeld. For instance Hillary has espoused the insane idea of a no-fly zone in Syria, risking war with Russia if a MIG goes down. I think once in the White House she will be persuaded by cooler heads not to implement such a stupid idea. Trump has supported the same dumb idea. Who will restrain him? I don’t know what you mean when you say the European media is being “savagely unfair” to Trump, but I bet they are reporting, correctly, that his ideas are proto-fascist and his behavior is boorish. Europeans, especially Spaniards, have some historical experience to guide them, having gone through 40 years of Franco. Remember, Hitler was elected in the 1930s by promising to “make Germany great again.” Mussolini ditto. Commander_Chico Trump has said he will work with Putin to fight ISIS. Brucehenry Yes and he’s also said he will put “boots on the ground” in Iraq to fight ISIS and “take their oil.” Jwb10001 Tonight we discover that Trump is now cool with importing high skilled immigrants, we know he’s already using low skilled immigrants. So I guess we can concluded he wants low skilled immigrants for the jobs American’s won’t do, high skilled immigrants for the jobs Americans can’t do. The rest have already left the country thanks to the EPA and labor unions. But at least we know he has 2 positions he won’t shift 1) committing war crimes 2) using torture. So for our leading military expert anti-neo con, he can now proudly support a draft dodging, torture supporting, war monger, killer of women and children, Iraq invading, chickenhawk who’s business accomplishments include bankrupting a casino. Too bad Pee Wee Herman isn’t running. Doc Musgrove Trump for sure supports the 2nd Amendment, Christian religion, elimination of common core, veterans and employment. Good enough for me. He also is smart enough to surround himself with personnel who know what he may not. Did you miss out on the news he recommends CONSERVATIVE CONSTITUTIONAL judges to the US Supreme Court? What would you get from Hillary “The Butcher 0f Benghazi”, or the “Bern”? Excuse me but it looks like I am part of a dying breed an AMERICAN. Rodney G. Graves Only on the days when he’s not arguing the opposite positions.