Snowflake College Students

Snowflake college students are the subject of a lengthy article published by The New Yorker.

In The Big Uneasy, author Nathan Heller introduces his readers to the snowflake students who attend Oberlin College, a place where, according to Heller, the norms run left of Bernie Sanders.

Just how flaky are these particular snowflakes? Well, during one semester at Oberlin, states Heller, “More than thirteen hundred students signed a petition calling for the college to eliminate any grade lower than a C for the semester, but to no avail.” Why were they making such a request? Answer: They were too busy with extracurricular activism to study well enough to make decent grades.

One student there was upset because he was made to take written exams instead of being allowed to take oral exams. Heller quotes the student as saying the following:

Because I’m dealing with having been arrested on campus, or having to deal with the things that my family are going through because of larger systems—having to deal with all of that, I can’t produce the work that they want me to do. But I understand the material, and I can give it to you in different ways. There’s professors who have openly been, like, ‘Yeah, instead of, you know, writing out this midterm, come in to my office hours, and you can just speak it,’ right? But that’s not institutionalized. I have to find that professor.

Such desire to be coddled extends to exposure to diverse thought. Heller quotes one Oberlin employee as saying, “People are so amazed that other people could have a different opinion from them that they don’t want to hear it.”

One student tells what happened after he advocated for more precise language in Oberlin’s sexual-harassment policy:

A student came up to me several days later and started screaming at me, saying I’m not allowed to have this opinion, because I’m a white cisgender male.

Heller quotes a leader of the Oberlin student government as saying, “I do think that there’s something to be said about exposing yourself to ideas other than your own, but I’ve had enough of that after my fifth year.”

One faculty member had to dissolve a course mid-semester and let students do independent study. Why? Answer: “Students went cold when they had to engage with anyone outside their community.”

This aversion to exposure to diversity of thought is addressed in an article published by The Atlantic. In it, authors Greg Lukiaoff and Jonathan Haidt state, “Something strange is happening at America’s colleges and universities. A movement is arising, undirected and driven largely by students, to scrub campuses clean of words, ideas, and subjects that might cause discomfort or give offense.”

Lukiaoff and Haidt elaborate:

The current movement is largely about emotional well-being. More than the last, it presumes an extraordinary fragility of the collegiate psyche, and therefore elevates the goal of protecting students from psychological harm. The ultimate aim, it seems, is to turn campuses into “safe spaces” where young adults are shielded from words and ideas that make some uncomfortable. And more than the last, this movement seeks to punish anyone who interferes with that aim, even accidentally. You might call this impulse vindictive protectiveness. It is creating a culture in which everyone must think twice before speaking up, lest they face charges of insensitivity, aggression, or worse.

Psychiatrist Keith Ablow gives his own diagnosis of the snowflake students:

We have created a nation filled with too many perpetual children — Peter and Patty Pans — who were brought up getting trophies for participating in sports, instead of winning, protected from the supposed horrors of being ranked by grades and scores and sold corrosive message by the likes of Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton that everyone deserves every kind of support, regardless of the level of education they have or the work they put forward. We have hobbled a generation, or two.

One wonders how these snowflake college students will survive once they leave the safety of their campus and enter the heat of the real world.

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  • Brucehenry

    You were doing fine until you quoted Ablow — he’s the worst kind of pandering hack and fool.

    • Jwb10001

      I am so offended by that statement that I feel completely brutalized, I want you removed from this site and boiled in oil, who is Ablow again?

      • Brucehenry

        If I have offended anyone by my well intentioned comment I apologize, so so sincerely.

        • Jwb10001

          As a white male that identifies as an blind, Asian woman with a missing limb I find your apology to be lacking sincerity therefore I will refer this matter to the proper authorities.

          • Brucehenry

            Sounds more like a fetish than an identity issue.

            EDIT: Btw we’re pretty much ALL white males here.

          • Jwb10001

            OH MY GOD I can not believe you just said that, that might be the most bigoted thing I’ve ever heard. You are clearly a fascist. I’m boycotting you.

          • Brucehenry

            Nuh uh YOU.

          • Jwb10001

            Ha I got nothin’

          • Paul Hooson

            Yeah, but can you play a mean pinball…

    • jim_m

      And yet you up vote Chico for saying that he liked Ablow’s point and you say “Ha ha good point”

      Another example that you have no convictions and you reflexively disagree with some people and compulsively agree with everything Chico says.

      You are a dishonest fraud and everyone sees it.

      • Brucehenry

        The good point was the one about the special snowflake sensitivities of certain Wizbang moderators and of course YOU, genius.

        • jim_m

          Which relies upon Ablow’s commentary. Another example of the fact that you do not understand what you are commenting on and you will both agree and disagree with the same point depending only upon who voices it. You have no discernment.

          • Brucehenry

            Ok Jim whatever you say, but if that is so why are so obsessed with me? I never ever make a comment here without you jumping in to tell me to fuck myself or something equally as worthy.

            I’m not going to get into another long boring back and forth with you about which of us is the bigger poopyhead so please move on.

          • jim_m

            YEs, I know. You too are a special snowflake. You are a lefty commenting on a conservative site and you object to people telling you that you are wrong. You should be allowed to post comments here without anyone ever posting a disagreement with you.

          • Brucehenry

            I have no problem with disagreement, obviously, just with stalkers and those too bile-filled to read a comment and realize that a viewpoint is being calmly and reasonably expressed to offer a cogent reply. And no, “fuck you” is not a cogent reply.

          • jim_m

            You are complaining about less than 1% of my comments. It shows that you’ve got nothing. No one is stalking you. I suggest you seek help for paranoid delusions. It’s a discussion board. there are precious few leftist dissenters here. If you do not expect to be challenged by the regular posters then I suggest you leave and do not come back.

          • Brucehenry

            I respectfully (snort) suggest that slightly more than 1% of your comments directed to me right off the bat contain either a “fuck you” or an insulting ad hominem, although I do concede that “stalker” is too strong a term for what you do here.

            I also respectfully (snort) suggest that if there are “precious” few lefty commenters here you might try to slow down and not fly off the handle almost every single time one of those precious few comment, and try not to begin every discussion with an epithet like “idiot” or your ever trusty “”ass wipe” or the even more handy “fuck you.”

            And also, respectfully, (snort), avoid strawman arguments and lying about what your “lefty” interlocutor is trying to say, Read carefully and discuss what is actually being written by one of the precious few, rather than transparently trying to twist what is written into some mutant version that you can more easily argue against.

            But aside from that, you’re super cool.

          • jim_m

            There you go again. Moving the goalposts from my saying F you to ALL insults. It’s actually a nice demonstration of how disordered your thinking is that you have to so quickly change your arguments because they are founded primarily on lies and deceptions.

          • You show no respect whatsoever and deserve even less.

          • Commander_Chico

            I am glad you admit Bruce is a precious resource here for his dissent.

            In your defense, you’re not a fascist censor. You are a big bag of sophistry, ad hominems, and straw men.

          • jim_m

            And unlike Bruce you are not a fragile snowflake demanding that your views go unopposed.

            You are just a vulgar sex tourist, and fabulist, claiming military exploits that are not your own.

          • Commander_Chico

            I claim a pension check from your taxes.

          • jim_m

            Yes, I know that you claim to receive one. Whether or not you actually do has not been established.

  • Retired military

    I celebrated my 19th birthday pulling guard duty on the Korean DMZ. At that age safe spaces to me were places I could stand behind to block incoming bullets.

    • Commander_Chico

      I celebrated my 19th birthday by going to the infamous Bahnhofsviertel in Frankfurt.

  • Commander_Chico

    Not any different than the special snowflakes aroud here, like the Sturmbannfuhrer. Can’t take opposing points of view, compulsive desire to censor, basically a personality weakness rather than an ideology. Sick!

    • Brucehenry

      Ha ha good point

      • Commander_Chico

        If I were doing an Ablow-style remote psychoanalysis here, I put Hooson on the extreme libertarian side, and the Sturmbannfuhrer on the extreme authoritarian side. Or, tolerance/intolerance of opposing points of view.

  • Retired military
  • Retired military

    https://youtu.be/z0O_VYcsIk8

    I would like to see them make If meat eaters acted like social justice warriors.

    • Brucehenry

      I’ve seen this one before it’s funny.

    • jim_m

      Actually I think there is a significant overlap between vegans and SJW’s.

  • Retired military
  • jim_m

    It’s not just that they cannot accept the existence of opinions that conflict with theirs, it’s that they are incapable of rationally thinking about the basic facts of observable nature.

    With the inability to make essential judgements about the reality around them, our children are incapable of making any decisions that will effect their lives and the lives of those around them. Watch these idiots dispute that there are physical and biological differences between the male and female sexes. Apparently Bruce also lacks the ability to tell the difference. I would suggest that those kids he claims probably aren’t actually his.

    • jim_m

      And this is proof that these people when confronted with reality will deny that reality because they believe that their ideology informs them of the truth rather than the facts they can readily perceive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfO1veFs6Ho

      • Commander_Chico

        I saw a few 6 ft+ Chinese women on my recent visit there.

        • jim_m

          Yes, but there were none in the video.

      • Brucehenry

        These kids are trying to be nice and to humor this idiot who thinks he is collecting Gotchas.

        And the fact that you think these videos ARE a big fat Gotcha is hilarious.

        • jim_m

          No they are not. Either they really believe it or they are cowed into parroting left wing dogma by the radical leftists at their university. Either way they are unthinking fools. There are one or two that show some indication that they realize that what they are saying is indefensible bullshit, but they are saying what they believe is the correct response.

          • Brucehenry

            Sure Jim these kids nowadays are all stupid and also should stay off your lawn.

          • jim_m

            I understand that to someone with a 3rd grade education they seem far more intelligent than you. However, to the rest of us they are idiots.

            And quit stalking me Bruce. You complained that I am following you about, responding to your posts. If you don’t want that, then stop responding to mine.

          • Brucehenry

            Your old standby when you are making a fool of yourself.

          • jim_m

            And yet it rings so true…

          • Cheap white I’ll educated bigoted trash.

          • Brucehenry

            Did you mean “ill educated,” dipshit?

          • jim_m

            What did I say about typos, Mr Hypocrite? I wager that is a cell phone autocorrect incident.

          • Brucehenry

            Those with a history of pomposity should be more careful.

            And ha ha “What did I say about typos?” You’re not even my real Dad!

          • jim_m

            I doubt your dad would claim you after you said that you would have to think about what age you would prevent people from mutilating children to serve an ideological agenda. That is one of the most profoundly sick statements I have ever heard anyone make.

          • Brucehenry

            Yes I guess that did sound bad. I suppose I would support the child reaching the age of majority before surgery like this is allowed, just as I support members of faith-healing religions being forced to allow their children to receive medical care that they need.

            Tell me, Jim, do YOU support Christian Scientists being forced to allow their sick children to receive life-saving chemotherapy?

          • jim_m

            As a matter of fact, yes.

          • Brucehenry

            How about being forced to have broken bones set?

          • jim_m

            Your point?

          • Brucehenry

            If a child has a broken leg which will heal badly and give him a lifetime of pain, should his faith-healing parents be forced to allow him medical care and his bone set, or are you cool with letting him suffer?

          • jim_m

            My position is that under certain circumstances broken bones can be life threatening (such as with a shattered pelvis) and especially in children can lead to life long disability if not treated properly. However some, minor fractures do not always necessitate a cast and many things that were cast when we were kids no longer are.

            Secondarily, I would say that Christian Science is a cult (this is really not disputed by either the right or left) and is considered that in other countries. The US has erred in granting the status of religion to a number of dangerous cults like Christian Science and Scientology.

          • Brucehenry

            So it is your opinion that the government should be the arbiter of which beliefs are religions and deserve respect and which are cults and do not deserve it?

          • jim_m

            I think that there is ample reason to believe that Scientology and Christian Science are scams created to enrich their founders. It is pretty clear that Hubbard never believed a word of anything he promoted. It is less clear that Eddy believed her crap, but it is also possible that she was mentally ill.

            They are not religions and there is a sound basis for claiming so.

          • Brucehenry

            So your answer is yes government should be the arbiter but has failed to do so.

          • jim_m

            That’s a little reductive, but yes. I would say that government has failed to operate under a reasonable man standard. In no way would a reasonable man claim that Scientology is anything other than a scam.

          • jim_m

            I would say further that we need to distinguish between personal religious faith and organized religious groups. People may indeed believe in the nonsense that Scientology pushes. However, we should not be granting them tax exempt status as a religion.

          • No one’s business other than the individual and their parent or guardian if such pertains.

          • You’ve been wrong for eons:

            Justice means minding one’s own business and not meddling with other men’s concerns.




            Plato

          • jim_m

            And yes, that sounded very bad.

          • It was very bad, and an insight as to just how bad the inside of that head is.

    • Brucehenry

      Just because some people on my side of the issue say things as ignorant as some people on your side of the issue do, doesn’t make me wrong. And at least these kids are trying to be nice — not fear-mongering or shouting in the aisles of a Target store that everybody’s going to Hades — some folks call it hell I call it Hades.

      https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/a970d3c4-8a48-4755-ab8a-b2a9848bb652

      • jim_m

        You are wrong regardless of what you or anyone else says.

        If this were a gay man speaking about conservative ideas they would have shouted him down, physically assaulted him and then complained to the media that they felt physically threatened by someone expressing ideas they disagreed with.

        • Brucehenry

          Yes they would have in your paranoid fever dreams you are demonstrably a kook.

          • jim_m

            You claim they are lying in order to appease the interviewer. What, pray tell, is their motivation?

          • jim_m

            Because the leftists will actually believe this crap and only the conservatives have any motive for appeasing the interviewer.

          • Brucehenry

            See that’s the difference between you and me — I say they are trying to be nice and humor the nice man asking them stupid questions, you say they are “lying” in order to “appease” the interviewer.

            Bilious, paranoid, suspicious and accusatory — let me guess, you don’t get invited to a lot of parties.

          • jim_m

            Again, what is the motivation? Are you claiming that NO students actually believe this? If so where is your evidence? We have a video and many, many articles, demonstrating that students really do believe it. We have articles across the nation showing that students are vehemently opposed to allowing anyone to express ideas counter to what they express here.

            You offer nothing but an ignorant denial. You offer no proof other than your ignorant claim that you must be right despite all the evidence against your position.

          • Brucehenry

            No you have gotcha interviews selectively edited, lots of ’em. In this video, as I have said a couple of times, the “motivation” is to be nice and to humor this guy. Most of these kids probably have not thought that much about the issue (most people are not political junkies like you and I) and YES, they want to be politically correct and not say anything offensive to their trans fellow students on film.

            It may come as a shock to you that many students disagree with your bigoted stance on transgender issues and are simultaneously rather inarticulate about it. If someone popped a mic in your face and asked you a bunch of questions you may or may not have considered much, and you were 19 years old, you might blurt out some inane nonsense, too. You certainly do so here, and here you come prepared to discuss the issues.

            Also, the interviewer returns to the same 6 or 7 kids over and over. He was on a university campus — were there not other students there? Gee, do ya think MAYBE other students gave more cogent responses, but since they didn’t advance his agenda they were not included? I mean MAYBE?

            BTW I don’t need “proof” to cast doubt on this video and other videos like it. If you can’t see the inherent flaws in using videos like this as “evidence” that’s on you.

          • jim_m

            It does not come as any surprise that students believe the leftist lies about gender. If you could read with ANY comprehension at all, you would realize that I believe that they are completely committed to this idiotic set of beliefs, which are without ANY scientific foundation and in fact the best science actually militates against.

            You all but admit that conservatives are being intimidated into professing beliefs they do not have because they feel required to placate the radical left. This is, in fact, happening and has been reported across the country.

            If you think that these kids on the video are outliers I would suggest that you follow the events across the country following speakers such as Milo Yiannopoulos and Christina Hoff Summers and the insane and violent protests against their speaking.

            As for your response…

          • Brucehenry

            Your precious fop Milo is a deliberate provoker of controversy, but he does sling his bigoted nonsense with a posh London accent so that explains your admiration for him. As does his self-loathing homosexuality.

          • jim_m

            Yes he is a provocateur. However, he is also right. I would suggest that he knows more about homosexuality that you do. I would also suggest that you probably have not even bothered to listen to what he says about homosexuality. His views are rather more nuanced than you believe.

          • Brucehenry

            Well it may be that some of his views are more nuanced than the ones I have heard. I’ve heard him talk about Muslims and his bigotry was not enhanced by his insufferable pseudo-intellectual delivery. Nor was his smirking foppiness made more attractive when he said “You can call me anything you like” when his “comedian” buddy called him a faggot in front of an auditorium full of people.

            I’d rather spend two hours with Ann Coulter than 10 minutes with this little twerp.

          • jim_m

            Maybe you are just a homophobe. It wouldn’t be surprising.. Most lefties are.

          • Brucehenry
          • jim_m

            My point was that they do not have to furnish any proof other than their say so.

            Learn to read jackass.

          • jim_m

            The first link is a review article that claims that other studies which do not address the relationship of biology and gender are actually proving that there is a relationship.

            I like the second one. It correctly calls transgenderism a disease state. I am glad to see that you are finally coming around. However, I would note that the research comes from an organization whose entire existence is based on the financial benefit of convincing people that they should have themselves surgically mutilated as a way of treating their “syndrome”.

          • Brucehenry

            Still puts the lie to your claim of “no scientific basis.”

          • jim_m

            Read the other comment dumbass.

            Jesus Christ! What does it take to get into your fucking thick head that I was saying that according to you and 0bama there doesn’t have to be ANY proof that ANY individual is actually trans, that the only “proof” required according to the DOJ is the say so of the person.

            The verbal claim of a person in the bathroom is unscientific.

            Damn you are stupid.

          • Brucehenry

            No I get that you are saying that, but I don’t care. It’s a meaningless point.

          • jim_m

            It’s the only point that matters you dumbass.

            So now you are admitting that you don’t want to argue my point that you have been intentionally shifting the goalposts because you know that you are wrong.

          • Brucehenry

            Where WAS that damn goalpost?

          • jim_m

            That the 0bama DOJ is saying that there is no actual proof required that a person is trans.

          • Brucehenry

            And to whom is this trans person being asked to prove his ummmm….trans-ness?

          • jim_m

            It doesn’t matter. Under the DOJ rule it is EVERYONE. Everyone must accept their claim. SO even if they are peeping, they have a complete defense by this simple claim.

          • Brucehenry

            It doesn’t matter? I thought this was your MAIN POINT!!!

            Should we have trans kids wear a yellow star?

          • jim_m

            It doesn’t matter because the defense of the person’s own assertion is valid to anyone who asks including law enforcement.

            Small children with a few, extremely rare circumstances due to congenital deformity, cannot be trans and virtually all cases outside of those are due to the influence of deranged adults as is established by the article I linked earlier today.

          • Brucehenry

            You mean the one from the organization whose mission it is to discredit the position of trans rights advocates? Is that the article that you think “establishes” this point?

          • jim_m

            So you are stating unequivocally, that all those kids were trans and even the autistic ones were not manipulated in any way by adults with an agenda? Got it. You are an ideologue with an agenda and you are willing to destroy as many lives as it takes as long as you win. You don’t care who dies or gets hurt as long as you win.

          • Brucehenry

            Again with the strawman.

            Nope, I am stating that that article does not discredit the whole transgender rights cause, as you claimed when you called it “the whole transgender bullshit.”

            The article demonstrates that there are unscrupulous therapists and surgeons — surprise surprise! — who will not hesitate to take advantage of autistic people or any other victims when large sums of money are at issue.

            It does NOT demonstrate that “virtually all” of anything is as you claim.

          • jim_m

            I didn’t claim that it did. The point is that it shows that some of it really is choice and is a psychological state and not something biological.

          • Brucehenry

            “…and virtually all cases outside of those are due to the influence of deranged adults as is established by the article I linked earlier today.”

            And now, 18 minutes later, you’re saying “I didn’t claim that it did.” Who is it again who can’t keep their shit consistent?

          • jim_m

            Answer this Bruce: Should minor children be surgically altered based on their claim that they are trans? At what age would you say that this should not be allowed? How are you going to establish that their claim is real and that they have not been unduly influenced?

            Or is their say so good enough? Just like the pervert who wants to get in the bathroom to molest someone?

          • Brucehenry

            I don’t know about that I’ll have to give it some thought.

          • jim_m

            Jesus Christ? Really? WTF is wrong with you?

          • jim_m

            You have effectively admitted to everything I have said. he only complaint you have is that these kids are being made to look like the idiots that they are.

            You are offended by the fact that your beliefs are stupid and people who express them publicly look like morons (which they are).

          • Brucehenry

            Gee in one of your strawman comments I “effectively admit” the same thing that in another of your strawman comments I only “all but admit” it.

            Of course I have done neither but you go ahead and claim, as always, that whoever it is you are arguing with is saying something he is not, you know, actually saying.

          • jim_m

            You claim that the majority of students believe the crap that I say they do

            It may come as a shock to you that many students disagree with your bigoted stance on transgender issues

            You claim that students feel compelled to appease the interviewer possibly stating views they do not really hold.

            YES, they want to be politically correct and not say anything offensive to their trans fellow students on film.

            You are an ignorant ass and everyone can see it. You have agreed with what I have posted. You are only embarrassed to have to admit it.

            And now you are on record as a homophobic bigot. Great job. Need I remind you of the first rule of holes?

          • jim_m

            Now comes the comment where you effectively rely upon the fact that you are uneducated, inarticulate and ignorant.

          • Brucehenry

            I thought you were the expert on how to post block quotes, lol.

            I might have reminded YOU to take your meds before beginning this discussion, you are all over the place nad swinging wildly — look out, you might punch yourself in the nose.

          • jim_m

            If you are going to criticize typos make sure that your comment is devoid of them.

          • Brucehenry

            Good point.

            Now, about videos like this: A few years back, Bill Maher made a whole movie, “Religulous,” where he interviewed religious people and made them ( he thought) ,look ridiculous. Only he didn’t — he made himself look like a smug bigot with an axe to grind.

            Like this dude.

          • jim_m

            So you are saying that riots and protests trying to silence people who criticize this gender nonsense have not occurred. Interesting denial of reality.

          • Brucehenry

            I haven’t been addressing any riots or protests, although you keep trying to introduce them. I have mocked the idea of using videos like this as “evidence” of anything.

          • jim_m

            The point is that it corresponds with other evidence so dismissing them out of hand is inappropriate.

            They do in fact represent the real attitudes of the majority of students these days, which in this case demonstrates that these kids are incapable of making rational distinctions based on science and reality.

          • Brucehenry

            So they should DEFINITELY stay off your lawn.

          • jim_m

            Or are you too, claiming that there are no biological differences between men and women?

          • Brucehenry

            Don’t ever change, dipshit.

          • jim_m

            Several students make that claim, that there are no differences, that differences are only societal and social in nature and not based in biology. Listed again and you will hear it several times.

          • Brucehenry

            Yes I heard them but I didn’t say it.

          • jim_m

            You defend the 0bama admin position that there are no differences. You support the idea that people should not have to prove that they are trans that we should take them at their word and that the federal government should use Title IX to force people to comply with this unscientific and crazy idea, making dissent with your ideology a criminal act.

          • Brucehenry

            And again Mr Reading Comprehension the administration did not say that “there are no differences.”

            No, people should not have to “prove” that they are trans to use this or that restroom any more than you should have to prove you are not a pedophile peeper when you enter one.

            People are not being asked to “comply” with anything except minding their own business and not the business of others.

          • jim_m

            So you also then agree with the invalidating of laws that prevent perverts from going into the woman’s bathroom since the only defense they need is to claim to be trans.

            There is no other defense required. You are in favor of pedophiles having full access to children in this way, or of rapists having the ability to stalk their targets without anyone deterring them. There is no valid law to stop them at this point.

          • Brucehenry

            God, I had this discussion with Scalia, it’s the one in which he declared I was a “liar” because he “pointed out several times” where he considered me wrong and since I didn’t agree I was wrong I was therefore “lying.”

            This claim of yours — and his — that there will be an epidemic of perverts “waltzing in” to ladies’ rooms to assault or peep at little girls — is not borne out in the experience of 18 states and 200 local jurisdictions where transgender protection provisions are currently in place.

            And before you start in with the “If it isn’t illegal it won’t be reported as a crime” trope he kept repeating, just remember that if there WERE such a wave of perverts in bathrooms there WOULD be an outcry.

            Also think about what you are saying. Do you think sex offenders are waiting for a loophole? Do you imagine that all over America, creepy pervs are rejoicing “Aha! At last, the technicality that I’ve been waiting for! NOW I’m going to go spy on girls like I never was able to before!”?? No, peeping and sexual assault are compulsive behaviors and no one has been waiting for a loophole to engage in them. And those acts remain illegal in the jurisdictions where trans protections are the law.

          • jim_m

            So your position is that until such a time as it becomes a national epidemic of people being sexually assaulted you see no problem.

            Now who is the one promoting rape culture?

          • Brucehenry

            Like impostor voting, this is a nonexistent problem for which draconian solutions like HB2 are put in place by Republican bigots and Godbotherers and those who pander to them.

          • jim_m

            We have provided multiple links to evidence of voter fraud. The fact that you bring this out now is a clear demonstration of your dishonesty.

          • Brucehenry

            Never have you produced any evidence of any impostor voting fraud that these “Voter ID” laws would prevent, beyond some widow casting a vote for her dead husband or instances like that.

          • jim_m

            Nor have you produced any proof that people have een denied the right to vote. In fact the facilitation of fraud that you support disenfrachises more people than voter ID.

            Also you are claiming that blacks are too fucking ignorant to figure out how to get an ID.

            Once more you are a bigot.

          • Brucehenry

            I have said many times that I have little objection to the ID requirement but that these laws usually include other restrictions on voting intended to suppress turnout, and that calling them “Voter ID” laws is just camouflage. And that these laws are a solution in search of a problem.

          • jim_m

            No. You always object to voter ID and you do not differentiate. You have argued that blacks can’t afford ID, that they are not smart enough to get them, etc, that blacks are the sole targets of these laws and that the intent is to keep them from voting.

            And you argue this despite evidence that voter participation has increased since those laws were passed.

          • Brucehenry

            I have never ever once made any of those arguments. You are lying AGAIN.

            EDIT: It is true that these laws are intended to lower Democratic turnout, and that the authors of these laws intend to do it by suppressing black turnout. I have made that one.

          • jim_m

            Then please explain how having to present an ID is disenfranchising minorities. You have always said that it is voter ID laws and you have argued against every single one and most are only about presenting an ID.

          • Brucehenry

            I have argued against the kind of “Voter ID” law we have here in NC.

          • jim_m

            I recall you also railing against the one in Wisconsin

          • Brucehenry

            Maybe, it seems to me it had something to do with disenfranchising university students.

            Which I guess you’re OK with considering how stupid you think they are.

          • Scalia

            Recall that I actually provided video interviews from Florida that proved just that. In all seriousness, I think Bruce has memory issues. I don’t mean that as an insult. He keeps forgetting things like that. He either couldn’t care less what we argue (meaning he doesn’t really pay attention to what we say) or he is really forgetting them. In any case, it makes it frustrating for those who choose to argue with him.

          • Lying is what cheap white bigoted ill educated trash does.

          • Scalia

            God, I had this discussion with Scalia, it’s the one in which he declared I was a “liar” because he “pointed out several times” where he considered me wrong and since I didn’t agree I was wrong I was therefore “lying.”

            That is not true. You’re lying again. I did not claim you were lying because you didn’t agree with me. You’ve disagreed with me most of the time, but I never accused you of lying until recently.

            You’ve had another long argument with Jim, and I have not intervened until now. Go ahead and argue all you want, but leave me out of it. For some insane reason, you keep bringing it up. If you’re looking to provoke me, you’re getting very close to doing so. I’m telling you again to drop it.

            Your comment about me has been deleted because you’ve been asked and warned to drop a closed topic. You comments about it will henceforth be edited to remove them.

          • Brucehenry

            I understand and agree not to do so in the future. What I don’t understand, though, in that case, is exactly where in that thread my “lie” occurred. It would be a huge favor to me if you would email me privately and let me know because I honestly thought it was as I said.

          • jim_m

            No the difference between you and I is that you fail to ask any questions about what you see. You never consider why someone would want to please the interviewer and what circumstances would drive them to do so. You assume a position that is contrary to all available evidence simply because the available evidence makes your beliefs look like the ramblings of the insane. You assume a ridiculous position because to actually consider what I am asking would force you to face that fact.

  • jim_m

    I remember back in the 1980’s we had this hysteria that people were molesting children in day care centers and the left spearheaded witch hunts across the nation putting innocent people in prison in order to further their careers and their political agendas.

    Now we have the left creating mass hysteria across the nation about transgender people, (people who represent something like 0.01% of the population) and their socalled rights. The left is going as far as to mutilate minor children, duping mentally impaired kids into thinking they are trans and irreversibly mutilating them in order to forcibly create more trans people with the intent of personally enriching themselves, advancing their careers and their political agendas.

    Little has changed with the left: Manufacture a crisis. make money by victimizing others. Walk away like nothing happened, washing their hands of any responsibility for the damaged lives they leave in their wakes.

    • Brucehenry

      It was “the left” that spearheaded those witch hunts?

      • jim_m

        I’m thinking specifically of the Fells Acres Daycare case where the Atty Gen for Massachusetts railroaded three people into prison and the Mass Supreme Court that refused to overturn the verdicts despite overwhelming evidence that they were bogus because (IIRC) “It was just time to move on”. It doesn’t matter to lefties whose lives are ruined. They advanced their careers and their agendas. All is well.

        • Brucehenry

          What about the one in California and the Little Rascals Daycare case in NC? Were those leftists too? What about that big thing in Washington state? Lefties?

          I think those were unscrupulous careerists, whatever their other politics were.

  • pennywit

    I would be cautious about projecting Oberlin attitudes onto all college students. That’s a bit like saying all evangelical conservatives are like the folk at Bob Jones University.

    • Scalia

      That’s good advice, but I would recommend another read of 1984. Orwell was one prescient fellow.

      • jim_m

        The left’s favorite how-to manual. Just above Fahrenheit 451.

  • fustian24

    I’d like to think that after graduation, life would smack some sense into these people, but times have gotten so weird that they may do quite well.

    I remember meetings we had at work where we would get together at the end of the day to talk about whether we wanted to hire that day’s interviewees. It became immediately clear that there was some kind of pissing contest going on in which the person that was hardest to please thought he’d gotten the most status. It quickly devolved into a race to the bottom.

    I finally had to ask some of these clowns in what ways their own graduate research fundamentally changed the field before we could have a real discussion.

    It sounds like at Oberlin the most ridiculous behavior is rewarded instead of questioned. Not surprising that it escalates.

  • jim_m

    Anyone else having problems with the display in Firefox? The blue background shows up but the white reading pane is gone. Reading grey letters on the blue background is difficult. Looks fine in Firefox for Android oddly enough.

    • Scalia

      I don’t know. I uninstalled Firefox after the Brendan Eich episode.

      • jim_m

        And use what? Chrome? Have you seen their nearly nonexistent Memorial Day tribute? They can do a huge doodle for Yuri Kochiyama, who praised Bin Laden and who covered for the Shining Path terrorist group while it killed over 30,000 innocent Peruvians. I’d rather support the SJW’s at Mozilla, they won’t last long. The commies at Google are far more dangerous.

        So the site works normally for you?

        • Scalia

          Yeah, I hear you. I use Chrome because it seems faster.

        • Scalia

          I forgot to reply to your last question. I use Chrome and see no issues with this site. I’ll check with Kevin.

      • jim_m

        I get the same response with Explorer (or Edge or whatever it is that MS calls their Windows 10 browser). Just looks like the site has been corrupted.

        • Brucehenry

          It’s messed up in Chrome too.

  • jim_m

    Well, that was a rather abrupt end to Wizbang. Site goes wonky, no explanation, no new topics, not even the caption contest winners. It’s been fun folks.

    • Should be fixed now…

  • Doc Musgrove

    Higher education is going to “politically correct” themselves out of the picture by allowing the little bitches to dictate their curriculum, grading systems, “safe places”, who is allowed to speak or not speak on their campuses, and other feigned indignations or trauma that “offends” them. All supported by yesterdays bitches who are administration and/or faculty members. I hope that common sense will prevail and higher administration and financial supporter will put their big girls panties on, cull the liberal staff and return the system back too what it was intended for – higher education where the students are responsible for their INDIVIDUAL actions and continued enrollment is granted pending GPA and personal conduct. What ever happened to suspension, expulsion for academic failure? “Safe zones”? Tell that to the 18 yrs and older members serving in the armed forces.