New Executive Travel Ban & OPEN THREAD

From the New York Daily News:

WASHINGTON — President Trump signed an executive order on Monday reinstating a ban on travelers from six Muslim-majority countries and suspending all new refugee visas, in hopes it can withstand a court battle that stymied his original ban.

The new ban, which will go into place March 16, has the same basic structure of the one that was rushed through on Jan. 27 and quickly suspended by the courts. But it doesn’t include some of the most controversial and unworkable parts of the original executive order.

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said the new ban would “make America more secure and address long-overdue concerns about the security of our immigration system.

“We must undertake a rigorous review of our visa and refugee vetting programs to increase our confidence in the decisions we make,” he said.

[…]

The new executive order’s key provisions remain largely the same: A 90-day ban on travelers from six countries who do not obtain a visa before March 16, a 120-day suspension on the country’s entire refugee entry program, and a dramatic curtailing in the number of overall refugees from 110,000 last year to 50,000 in this year.

But the administration made some significant changes in the new order and revoked the original ban even as administration officials continue to insist that it was constitutional.

Iraq has been removed from the list of banned countries after negotiations with the Iraqi government to tighten screening procedures of refugees, and Syrian refugees are no longer permanently banned. Language singling out exemptions for religious minorities has been removed. The ban won’t go into place immediately, allowing for better coordination in its implementation. Travelers from the banned countries who have valid visas or green cards as of March 16 will be specifically exempted from the ban, whereas the first one lacked that language and sowed chaos as a result.

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  • Scalia

    Trump Tower, perhaps not; surveillance, perhaps:
    https://youtu.be/91fNfGjZdM0
    https://youtu.be/OSdODs7XWSY

    • jim_m

      You can tell by the stuttering response of the dems that this one hit the target. They know damned well that the obama admin did this. 0bama spied on the press, he spied on Congress. There is no reason to disbelieve these accusations and we should go on the presumption that this happened until we unearth proof that it is false. And we should demand the proof of it because it is only with that proof that we will be able to punish the guilty. And there needs to be punishment here.

    • Hank_M

      Obamagate.

      This may just be the time when the dems were too clever by half.
      They’ve been using anonymous sources leaking what they themselves have referred to as wiretapped data. And now when Trump calls them out on it, they demand proof of the wiretapping. Really?

      Yes, let’s investigate this.

    • Retired military

      Democrats -“There is no proof of wiretaps”

      • Hank_M

        No proof of wiretaps?

        Then how were Trump’s phone conversations with other country leaders leaked to the mainstream media?

        http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-foreign-leaders-phone-calls-234770

      • Scalia

        Yes, the NYT story is HERE (dated 1-19-17), but you’ll see via the link that they changed their title:

        The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House.

  • Scalia

    Texas city: Work on Trump’s wall and you won’t work for us:

    For one West Texas city, the proposition may be simple: Take a contract to work on Donald Trump’s border wall with Mexico and give up any work with the city.

    An El Paso city councilman is pushing the idea of prohibiting the city from awarding any kind of contract to a vendor or company working on the proposed wall. The issue will come up Tuesday during a regular meeting of the council.

    Representative Peter Svarzbein said the idea is to foster a larger conversation about the wall. The Trump administration has already selected El Paso, which is close enough to the border that the Mexican city of Juarez can be seen, as one of the starting points for construction.

  • Scalia

    African American SAT scores boosted by 230 points:

    In a windowless classroom at an Arcadia tutoring center, parents crammed into child-sized desks and dug through their pockets and purses for pens as Ann Lee launches a PowerPoint presentation.

    Her primer on college admissions begins with the basics: application deadlines, the relative virtues of the SAT versus the ACT and how many Advanced Placement tests to take.

    Then she eases into a potentially incendiary topic — one that many counselors like her have learned they cannot avoid.

    “Let’s talk about Asians,” she says.

    Lee’s next slide shows three columns of numbers from a Princeton University study that tried to measure how race and ethnicity affect admissions by using SAT scores as a benchmark. It uses the term “bonus” to describe how many extra SAT points an applicant’s race is worth. She points to the first column.

    African Americans received a “bonus” of 230 points, Lee says.

    She points to the second column.

    “Hispanics received a bonus of 185 points.”

    The last column draws gasps.

    Asian Americans, Lee says, are penalized by 50 points — in other words, they had to do that much better to win admission.

    “Do Asians need higher test scores? Is it harder for Asians to get into college? The answer is yes,” Lee says.

    The Princeton University study may be found HERE.

  • Scalia

    Attorney General Sessions did NOT commit perjury:

    Napoleon Bonaparte once said, “from the sublime to the ridiculous is but a step.”

    There is nothing sublime about Nancy Pelosi. Ridiculous, however, is an apt description.

    At a news conference Thursday, the former Speaker of the House denounced Attorney General Jeff Sessions as a liar, pronounced him guilty of perjury, and demanded his resignation. This comes just days after she erroneously accused the Trump White House of obstructing justice. Clearly, she’s on a tear. Who knew the democratic leader, who is not a lawyer, was such an expert on the law?

    What did Sessions do to deserve her condemnation? By his account, he told the truth. When asked by Senator Al Franken during his confirmation hearing about “a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government,” Sessions responded as follows:

    “I’m not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with Russians, and I’m unable to comment on it.”

    In a subsequent questionnaire issued by Senator Patrick Leahy, Sessions answered “no” when asked the following:

    “Several of the President-elect’s nominees or senior advisers have Russian ties. Have you been in contact with anyone connected to any part of the Russian government about the 2016 election, either before or after Election Day?”

    As posed, the questions specifically ask Sessions about any exchange of information with the Russians pertaining to the presidential campaign and any discussion of the election itself. The attorney general insists he responded honestly. That is, he never spoke with a Russian official about either subject. In a statement, he said, “I never met with any Russian officials to discuss issues of the campaign. I have no idea what this allegation is about. It is false.”

    Sessions says he had more than 25 conversations with foreign ambassadors in 2016 as a senior member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Twice he spoke with the Russian Ambassador Sergey Kisylak.

    […]

    Under federal law, 18 USC 1621, perjury is knowingly and willfully making a false statement under oath. It is as simple as that. You won’t run out of ink writing it down. You don’t need to be a great thinker to comprehend the plain meaning of the statute.

    If Sessions was acting in his capacity as a United State Senator and did not discuss the election campaign, then he did not commit perjury. In other words, his statements to the Judiciary Committee were truthful, not lies as Pelosi claims. Yet, armed with no evidence whatsoever, she has convicted Sessions without the benefit of a trial. Her accusations are not just baseless, given the known facts, but contemptible.

    Perhaps Nancy Pelosi is the one who should resign. For being irresponsible. For leveling reckless recriminations and slurs.

    • Hank_M

      It’s always a laugh riot to see democrats like Pelosi and others talk about things they do not know – truth and honesty being the most obvious.

      • Retired military

        I had a good laugh yesterday. I saw a Schumer soundbite where he was talking about dignity. Glad I wasn’t drinking anything or I might have choked on it.

  • Scalia

    House Republicans release long-awaited ObamaCare replacement bill:

    House Republicans on Monday evening released the text of their long-awaited ObamaCare replacement bill, proposing to eliminate the various taxes and penalties tied to the original legislation while still preserving certain patient protections.

    Aiming to deliver on their signature campaign promise after several election cycles trying to reclaim control of Washington, majority Republicans unveiled what they call the American Health Care Act. The sweeping legislation would repeal ObamaCare’s taxes along with the so-called individual and employer mandates – which imposed fines for not buying and offering insurance, respectively.

    It also would repeal the Affordable Care Act’s subsidies, replacing them with tax credits for consumers.

    The bill would continue Obama’s expansion of Medicaid to additional low-earning Americans until 2020. After that, states adding Medicaid recipients would no longer receive the additional federal funds the statute has provided.
    More significantly, Republicans would overhaul the federal-state Medicaid program, changing its open-ended federal financing to a limit based on enrollment and costs in each state.

    “We begin by repealing the awful taxes, the mandate penalties and the subsidies in ObamaCare,” House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Kevin Brady, R-Texas, told Fox News’ “Special Report with Bret Baier” in an exclusive interview.

    Asked about some conservatives’ concerns that GOP leaders are merely pushing ‘ObamaCare Lite,’ Brady countered, “It is ObamaCare gone.”

    House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Greg Walden, R-Ore., told Fox News they also “are not pulling the rug out from under people.” Rather, he said Republicans want to restore power to the states and control costs in Medicaid and elsewhere.

    […]

    However, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said the bill “looks like ObamaCare Lite to me … It’s going to have to be better.”

    Rank-and-file Republicans were watching to see if the legislation brings down the cost of healthcare.

    “If it doesn’t, we haven’t changed anything,” one House Republican told Fox News.

    • jim_m

      Fails to ease the regulatory burden on providers.

      Fails to create a national marketplace and retains the current failed, 50 individual state markets for insurance. This is what prevents sharing of risk and lowering of rates.

      This IS obamacare lite. The GO should be ashamed of themselves because this won’t change a damned thing.

      • Vagabond661

        If it reaches his desk, President Trump should veto the crap out of it.

      • Scalia

        Fails to create a national marketplace and retains the current failed, 50 individual state markets for insurance.

        Precisely. I was very hopeful they would eliminate that. What a disappointment.

        • mikegiles

          We have individual state markets for EVERY business. To do business in ANY jurisdiction, you need a license to do business in that jurisdiction. You have to pay sales and use taxes in that jurisdiction. You have to meet the rules and regulations specific to that jurisdiction.

      • Retired military

        You expected something else from RINO Ryan and McCuckold McConnell?

      • I’d wait and see – there’s a lot that can change, and it probably will.

        I’m listening to the press conference now – this isn’t finalized by any means.

    • LiberalNightmare

      At least we wont have to pass it to find out whats in it :).

      • What a difference!

        • Walter_Cronanty

          Form over substance.

          • Still an essential difference. We can examine this turd and tell our representatives that it does not pass muster.

  • Retired military

    Trump to planned parenthood “We are cutting off your funds due to abortions”
    Planned parenthood “We don’t use govt funding for abortions”
    Trump “Okay we will reinstate your funding if you stop doing abortions”
    Planned parenthood “We reject your offer”
    So in other words, planned parenthood is more concerned with doing abortions than getting govt funds to take care of other health needs of women..

    • Nice!

      They keep believing that ‘Trump is stupid’. If they bothered to actually look at his history, instead of repeating the stories they’ve kept telling themselves, they’d find out that he’s a hell of a lot sharper than they are – and he’s under no compunction to be a proper ‘politician’ who plays according to the DC rules.

  • mikegiles

    Question. Why does every article on Trumps travel ban make a point of noting that the banned states are Muslim Majority; as opposed to noting that they are failed states, with little, to no, central governments. It seems like the media is attempting to turn the travel ban into some sort of anti Muslim plot; when in reality the largest Muslim countries on the planet are NOT included in the ban.

    • Because that negative framing supports the progtrard narrative.

    • Retired military

      Think of MSM reporters as liberals with bylines and you will understand perfectly.

      • mikegiles

        I know that. I’d just like to be able to not have to curse at the TV every time the “news” comes on.

        • That is why God made the “off” switch.

        • Retired military

          I dont watch tv news anymore.

          • Hank_M

            Same here. And my wife, who has watched GMA for years and years can no longer tolerate George and the slanted coverage. And she doesn’t even follow politics.

          • I haven’t watched TV news in over a decade and miss it not at all.

  • Wild_Willie

    As my conservative friends have stated, the dem’s are in panic mode on this issue. Trying to get ahead of the tapping Trump story, they hadn’t the chance to get their story straight so there is a lot of conflicting stories by the liberals. It is obvious by the behavior that they did not think Trump would learn of this. Now I know why the liberals wanted to keep the Russian story alive. To distract.

    My personal belief for years is if the dem’s blame you for something, that is code for they did it themselves. ww

  • WHO’S THE BUSTER

    Perhaps some of you might find this interesting, or not, since it demonstrates the great leaps that had to be made to get anywhere close to Obama hacking Trump Tower.

    I have no desire to debate the issue as I knew before clicking on Wizbang that many would find Trump’s tweet to be plausible. It is similar to last night’s news cycle; a big story on all the networks, but on Fox the story is about some Obama-led coup. Hilarious, it was like watching an SNL skit.

    So if this turns out to be nonsense, should Trump face any punishment for buffoonery? Should he apologize for accusing his predecessor of serious crimes with no evidence. Of course he could get this evidence, if it existed, in a few hours by making a few phone calls, but that is not likely.

    This morning he tweeted, almost verbatim, a Fox and Friend’s tweet about Guantanomo Bay.

    Fox and Friends, Levin, and Tucker Carlson are not news sources, they are pundits, but Trump seems to think otherwise.

    Oh well, I am sure he will do something over the next few days that is just as foolish. Boy, the cable news channels have to be in heaven, everyday is crazier then the one before and their ratings are through the roof.

    This is the link to the woman that is the main “source” for this convoluted theory about Obama wiretapping Trump. She was working for Heat Street, the Murdoch owned (what a surprise) website and still works for News Corp.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/this-former-british-lawmaker-is-at-the-heart-of-the-trump-wiretap-allegations/ar-AAnU2xB?li=BBnb7Kz

    • Scalia

      I have no desire to debate the issue as I knew before clicking on Wizbang that many would find Trump’s tweet to be plausible.

      You rarely debate any issue, so that’s nothing new. The real reason you won’t debate the subject is due to the fact that MSM outlets (e.g. the NYT) have reported that wiretapping took place and that some of the information was given to the White House under Obama.

      Yes, you’d fit well in a SNL skit.

    • Busted writes:

      I have no desire to debate the issue…

      Then take your turd of a comment and yourself somewhere else.

      • Retired military

        I guess Who’s the Buster is taking notes from David.

    • Retired military

      THe NY TIMES said that he was wiretapped.

      Who do you think ordered it? Or do you think the DOJ or FBI would wiretap a presidential candidate without the current president being aware of it?

      • Jwb10001

        DId Nixon put bugs in the Watergate hotel, no. Did Nixon have to resign because his people put bugs in the Watergate hotel, yes.

      • Scalia

        RM, haven’t you caught on? In liberal Newspeak, the NYT is a right-wing fever swamp rag whenever they report something that liberals don’t like.

      • Brucehenry

        There is no proof that I’m aware of that Trump himself, or Trump Tower, was “wiretapped.” And the Times didn’t “say he was wiretapped” in it’s Jan 19 story. The NYT reported that “associates of Trump,” namely Manafort, Flynn, Stone, and Carter Page, had been the subject of investigations in which “intercepted communications” were employed. These communications may have been hacked emails or IMs and not phone calls.

        There were rumors and reports of Russian influence on those 4 guys throughout the campaign. If the FBI had evidence, or had gotten a credible tip,that someone in the Trump campaign was colluding with an adversarial foreign power to influence the election, they would have been remiss NOT to seek a FISA warrant and find out what was going on, which, apparently, they did.

        How you get from that to Trump scream-tweeting that “Obama tapped MY phones in Trump Tower” is a mystery to me. Or would be if Trump wasn’t a kook.

        • Retired military

          Bruce
          You know those phone calls leaked regarding Kelly talking to the russian ambassador? Kelly made the call from the Trump Tower.

          “Perhaps there is a non-nefarious reason why the headline has been changed. ”

          Perhaps under Obamacare you can keep your doctor if you like him, it wasnt a tax (per Obama’s lawyers fighting the case), if you liked your plan you can keep your plan and not only all that but it will save the average family $2500 per year.

          • Retired military

            Here is what Josh Earnest AKA Obama’s mouthpiece was asked and how he answered.
            https://pjmedia.com/video/josh-earnest-wont-deny-obama-admin-spied-on-trump-campaign/

            President Obama’s former press secretary ducked and dodged ABC’s Martha Raddatz’s questions about whether the Obama administration spied on Trump Tower during the presidential election last year.

            She asked Josh Earnest point-blank, “Can you categorically deny that the Obama Justice Department did not seek and obtain a FISA court order?”

            His response was full of weasel words: “What I can categorically deny, Martha, is that the White House was at all involved in directing, or interfering, or influencing an FBI investigation.”

            That’s not what I’m asking,” Raddatz pressed. “What I’m asking is, can you deny that the Obama Justice Department did not seek and obtain a FISA court ordered wiretap of the Trump campaign?”

            Take two from Earnest: “The simple answer to that question, Martha, is I don’t know. The fact is, even when I was in government, I was not in a position of being regularly briefed on an FBI criminal or counterintelligence investigation.”

            If there was no FISA warrant why not just say so?
            If Obama knew about the FISA warrant why not say so?
            Gee we are supposed to believe that the press secratary aka Obama’s mouthpiece wasnt told anything one way or another if a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE had a FISA warrant approved 3 weeks before the election? How fucking stupid does that sound?
            If there was a FISA warrant then there was wiretapping and or hacking.

            Instead you have a bunch of mealy mouth double talk which is exactly what Obama and his minions did for 8 years. Why do you think Trump got elected? Because Hillary was nothing more than an Obama clone only much more corrupt.

        • Retired military

          BTW Bruce

          Here is part of that story from the NY TImes whose headlines you wonder if it was changed due to nonnefarious reasons.

          ——

          The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House.
          ====

          • Lightninbug

            I have always considered the “no conclusive evidence” meme to be a red herring. An honest broker addressing the public would simply drop “conclusive” from the statement. Why anyone utilizing mealy mouth insinuations of this type
            would think they were fooling their readers is just another indication that these guys are never going to grasp the fact that we all know what fake news is.

            If they had any evidence at all, conclusive or otherwise. they would be the hammer and the evidence would be the nail being driven into our brains 24/7.

        • LiberalNightmare

          I don’t remember any reports or rumours about Trump before the DNC email hacks became news.

          But, if rumours and reports are enough to justify investigating Trump for collusion, why aren’t they enough to investigate Obama for illegal wiretaps?

          • Retired military

            But but but he’s Obama.

          • Brucehenry

            I have no problem with “investigating Obama for illegal wiretaps.”

            I read stories about Manafort and Russia around the time he left the campaign, which was months and months before the election.

            EDIT: Here’s a sample of what was being said:

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/03/trump-campaign-changed-ukraine-platform-lied-about-it.html

          • Retired military

            The daily beast??

            Really Bruce. At least something with some reputation. Maybe the NY TImes with all the lies fit to print.

          • Brucehenry

            It links to a WaPo article, but it is just one example of the kind of articles and reports that were out there for months — the kind that LN said he didn’t recall.

            But here’s one from Forbes:

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2016/07/18/trump-deferring-to-putin-deleted-gop-platforms-call-to-supply-ukraine-with-lethal-defensive-weapons/#6a79014930ba

          • Retired military

            You mean like the articles in WAPO , FOrbers, NY TIMES, CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC that all said that Trump was colluding with the russians and which Clapper, Obama’s DNI, stated that there was absolutely no proof of it. You mean those articles which ascertain without a doubt that Trump was colluding with the RUssians to hack the elections?

          • WHO’S THE BUSTER

            Yeah, Bruce, nothing from Breitbart, Tucker Carlson or Mark Levin?

          • Scalia

            Why does everything need to be repeated to you? I’ve already told you that Bruce has chided us multiple times for citing right-wing websites, so he gets it in return when he cites a left-wing source.

            Now, if your memory is that bad, then at least post something in your computer to remind you of what we’ve already discussed.

          • Like all geese he wakes up in new universe every day.

        • jim_m

          So first you claim that Trump personnel were not the subjects of wiretaps and that they were just rolled up as part of investigations of Russian diplomats, and then you state that the NYT claimed that Trump personnel were the subjects of investigations, implying that they also were the targets of the wiretaps.

          Either you are stupid or you are once more dishonestly trying to have it both ways.

          Once again I embrace the healing power of the word “and”,

          • Retired military

            The left keeps running around from point A (definite collusion with the russians) to point B (no wiretaps) with their hair on fire.

    • Hank_M

      One thing that’s interesting and often overlooked is why Obama, on the way out, as reported on Jan 12th, changed the policies regarding the retention of intercepted communications involving a US citizen. Under old policies any person whose communications were collected and was not subject to FISA or 12333 guidelines, had to be deleted. Now that information can be retained as raw signals intelligence info and that info can be shared with 16 other Intel agencies.

      If National security was the motivating factor, why wait until you’re leaving office to implement this?

      • Retired military

        “If National security was the motivating factor, why wait until you’re leaving office to implement this?”

        Because Obama is only worried about “national security” if it will help his cause.

        • WHO’S THE BUSTER

          Well, you have to remember, that a number of right wing pundits, or as Trump seems to think of them, news sources, think that Obama is running some kind of deep state (whatever that is) government that is actively staging a silent coup.

          In fact, it is not just pundits, but members of our current government that believe that this is happening.

          “We are talking about the emergence of a deep state led by Barack Obama,and that is something that we should prevent,” said Representative Steve King, Republican of Iowa. “The person who understands this best is Steve Bannon, and I would think that he’s advocating to make some moves
          to fix it.”

          Fix it?

          Apparently one of the things they consider evidence of such a scenario is that Barack Obama has retained his residence in Washington. Ummm…OK. Apparently the explanation that he wanted his teenage girls to graduate from their current school was merely a ruse.

          • Retired military

            Why did DOJ suddenly declassify information a week before inauguaration.
            Why did Obama appointees suddenly disperse through the govt a week before the inauguaration
            Look at the stats for people who donated to CLinton
            96+% of folks who worked at State Department, and DOJ donated for Clinton.
            Why suddenly change the FISA rules a week before the inauguration to keep names of US citiizens and other data that has been recorded?

            Why is Valerie Jarrett living in DC WITH THE Obama’s when the Obama’s only stayed in DC so their daughter could finish high school?

            Tell you waht Buster. Meander over to DU and see how many folks are talking about Obama and his minions taking an active role in the resistance. They are absolutely masturbating at the thought of Obama starting his sound bite brigade against Trump.

            Obama’s cabinet was approved in less than 3 weeks. Trump still doesnt have his full cabinet thanks to the dems.

            Obama’s first 2 SCOTUS appointments were approved with no issues. Dems are vowing to fight tooth and nail ANY appointee of Trump.

          • WHO’S THE BUSTER

            What is DU?

          • The village from which you are missing.

          • Retired military

            Democraticunderground.com
            Where every day they discuss the latest thing that will make the wheels fall off the Trump admin.
            Things like
            The Russian hooker watersports
            The recount
            The recount of the recounts
            Sessions is a member of the Klan
            Trump’s ties to Russia
            and other assorted head on fire topics.
            They worship Rachel Maddow, have extensive discussions on how Hillary was robbed, how Hillary won, how Trump cheated, and how Bernie could have won, how Comey elected Trump, how the HIllary/Warren Ticket or Bernie/Warren ticket or how the Clinton/Bernie ticket would have won or will win in 2020. Also another big topic is impeach Trump and Pence and have Hillary and Ryan run in a special election ordered by SCOTUS and thus President Hillary.

            Here is one of today’s threads

            http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028769842
            entitled
            A complete destruction of the State Department is what Putin told Trump to do.

            and another

            http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028770021
            So, if they investigate Obama over the wiretapping and find no credible evidence, does it become an impeachable offense for Trump?

            You would love it.

          • Scalia

            Here’s an interesting post from another blogger:

            What many are failing to realize is the brilliant manner in which has handled the “Russian issue”.
            >
            What has been happening over the last six months or so is the Left and the MSM has been playing nonstop the idea that the Russians “hacked” the election, that Trump was complicit with the Russian effort, and that Trump “stole” the election making him an illegitimate President. Rarely did a day go by without some new revelation from an anonymous source who had it on good authority that this or that had happened. They cited wiretapping evidence, recorded conversations, and a host of additional information, supporting all of these accusations while providing zero that was actual evidence. It was all claim and innuendo followed by “trust me”.
            >
            No amount of denial was sufficient to shut these accusations down. Demands for actual real evidence was met with blanket statements such as “17 intelligence agencies are in agreement on this” whatever that meant. It was a juggernaut of claims that showed itself to be invincible and appeared to be unstoppable. What’s a President to do?
            >
            When Trump made the claim that he had been hacked, the media went into overdrive. Few seemed to realize that the unsubstantiated claims by the MSM were good enough for them to be believed, but similar claims from Trump were simply unacceptable. The MSM immediately banded together and proclaimed that obviously there had been no hacking of Trump and for him to make this claim was unconscionable. Gradually it started to occur to everyone that now the MSM was declaring how Trump had never been hacked, the almost everyday claims by the MSM that they had super secret information gleaned from government wiretaps and such suddenly had no basis. By making his claim, Trump maneuvered the MSM to state themselves that they were full of beans with their earlier claims and thereby caused the MSM to destroy their own credibility.
            >
            Now all claims of being hacked and the existence of super secret information showing Trump to be a Russian “Manchurian candidate” President have evaporated. What had been viewed as an impossible argument to stop and win has been stopped and won. This victory has been so complete that now we are hearing Clapper and others state clearly that no evidence of a Russia-Trump connection exists.
            >
            So how does the disenfranchised and discredited MSM and Democrat party respond to all of this? Even more attacks on how Trumps hacking claims are irresponsible, how they are false, and so forth. They seem to have conveniently forgotten that they themselves made identical claims for months, but evidently when the unbiased media or Democrats does it, it becomes acceptable and justified.
            >
            So how will this entire Russian nonsense turn out?
            >
            First, people will realize that the MSM and Leftists had no cares about it when Hilary sold 20% of our uranium reserves to Russia just prior to the Clinton Foundation receiving over a hundred million dollars in donations from Russia, they had no concern about the digital “Pearl Harbor” that occurred when government computers were hacked by Russia and others resulting in the loss of extensive amounts of information, and they did not care about so many other events supposedly caused by the Russians. But now that Podesta’s email was compromised by a phishing scheme that a 80 year old illiterate person would have seen coming, this is now tantamount to a declaration of war.
            >
            Second, it is abundantly clear that Russia neither hacked any voting machines, changed any individual votes, or altered the outcome to the election. Evidently that does not matter because the MSM and Democrats still want this to be a major crisis simply to act as a justification to cover how the Democrat party and Hillary Clinton were so incompetent as to lose the election.
            >
            Third, the real loser will be our intelligence agencies who are going to be dragged through the mud as our intelligence gathering methods are scrutinized and our ability to function in the intelligence world is compromised.
            >
            Is any of this worth it? Is the destruction of our intelligence services and possibly an increase in US-Russia tensions that could lead to war really worth it where “it” is trying to save face of a botched election and the embarrassment of falling to a phishing scheme?
            >
            The fact of the matter is that Trump won the election and has humiliated the MSM and the Left in their attempt to tar Trump as being a Russian agent. The MSM and the Left are losing even more by pushing this absurd Russian hacking that wasn’t. This is a guaranteed lose-lose situation for the Democrats and the MSM but they do not seem to see this for they are so far lost in their ideologies that they cannot see straight. They would do far better to spend their time trying to get that money from that Nigerian prince than they would pursuing this snipe hunt.

          • Yep. They shot their own previous narrative in the head and inflicted yet another wound to what remains of their credibility.

          • Vagabond661

            That’s right!!! And Valerie Jarrett moved in with them to be the nanny!!! Stupid right wingers!!!

          • Retired military

            But but dont you remember when Karl ROve moved in with George and Laura Bush after the election to be the nanny of the Bush twins?

    • LiberalNightmare

      Speaking of great leaps, perhaps your next post could analyze all of the evidence that points to russia colluding with Trump to win the election?

      • Retired military

        But but it must be true because umm umm Trump.

    • Olsoljer

      Speaking of doing foolish things, and things crazier than the day before, what are you doing tomorrow?

  • Retired military

    I eagerly await David’s column on Trump making wild unfounded accusations without a smidgen of proof.

  • Retired military

    Babs Streisand says that she is gaining weight eating too many pancakes due to Trump.

    if she becomes obese and dies of a heart attack then I am quite sure the left will want Trump impeached for murder.

  • LiberalNightmare

    I wonder if the Dem’s realize how badly they are screwing themselves these days?

    This hardline, resist at all costs mode that they are committed to isn’t the smart play.

    With Trump as president, they had a semi-conservative, ready to make a deal, businessman type. Now what have the dems got? A semi-conservative, pissed off screw-em, businessman type.

    • Scalia

      Their constituency is forcing them into that position. They are frothing at the mouth over any suggestion of cooperation with Trump on any issue. Doing so, they reason, legitimizes the president, and that they cannot abide.

      No matter. Trump continues with his agenda while Democrats implode.

      • LiberalNightmare

        That’s the best part.

  • Paul Hooson

    Whatever Mr.Trump reads in the tabloids must be true, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hiq38kTrAFQ

  • pennywit

    Yes, Slate has been going the way of Salon lately (and not the good 1990s Salon, either). But this longform article about Camelot alternative schools is worth your time:

    Thirteen Camelot students have alleged in interviews or documents that they were shoved, beaten, or thrown—assaults almost always referred to as “slamming”—by Camelot staff members, usually for the sin of talking back, in separate incidents that span 10 years and three states. (Six of the students were interviewed in 2009 in New Orleans.) Two additional students, and five Camelot staff members, say they have personally witnessed beatings or physical aggression by staff.

    The violence against students is a problem, but Camelot dismisses those as isolated incidents. I’m a bit more concerned that there doesn’t seem to be effective oversight of the Camelot schools.

    • Scalia

      Well, we’re talking about students who appear to have extreme discipline problems, so I would take some of their complaints with a grain of salt. That said, there are obviously cases of serious abuse. I believe in corporal punishment, but some of what’s described goes way too far.

      I think we can all agree that there needs to be greater accountability, I couldn’t care less if some punk thinks he’s living in a prison—he’s not. A lot of them just don’t like being told what to do, and they’ve never, until now, been held accountable for their actions.

      Abuse occurs in every kind of school, so if this is a good-faith effort to weed out the abusers, count me in. However, I get the feeling that there’s something else:

      About half a million students in the United States attend alternative schools, which are publicly funded but often managed by private, for-profit companies such as Camelot. Camelot’s story illustrates the risk that for-profit schools, which are favored by the Trump administration and new Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, may put earnings ahead of student welfare. It also exposes the dismal educational options available to some students who traditional high schools don’t want to serve, because they are disruptive, severely disabled, years behind in school, or have criminal backgrounds.

      Is this the pink elephant?

  • Walter_Cronanty

    Why do feminist classes trigger females to self-mutilate and make false claims of hate crimes?

    “A 21-year-old Ann Arbor woman pleaded guilty as charged to one count of false report of a misdemeanor in 15th District Court on Monday, March 6…

    ‘I was suffering from depression at the time,’ Bass told Judge Elizabeth Pollard Hines. ‘I made a superficial scratch on my face. It was visible and I was embarrassed about what I’d done. So I made up a story and told a friend that a stranger had done it while I was walking…’

    At the time, Bass claimed her attack was part of the surge in hate crimes following the election of Donald Trump a week earlier…

    Bass admitted to scratching her own face with the pin after becoming upset during a Woman’s Literature class at the University of Michigan, according to the Ann Arbor Police Department report.”

  • WHO’S THE BUSTER

    “How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very
    sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!”

    I was criticized for not wanting to debate the veracity of the above statement. What is there to debate? We have all heard the same information about the subject and have simply come to different conclusions.

    I, for one, am simply going to wait for the evidence that the President must have in his possession. As his surrogates kept saying, he has access to information that no one else sees, so President Trump must have viewed compelling evidence that Obama ordered a wiretap on him (even though that is not how this works, that is not how any of this works). I mean, only a buffoon would charge the former President of the United States of a felony based on nothing more than the shtick of a radio host. So I will be patient and simply wait for the evidence that Trump obviously has in his possession. I don’t know why he has chosen to withhold the evidence, since it puts his fellow Republicans in a difficult position, but I am sure he has his reasons.

    One pattern has remained consistent, however, and it is rather troubling. Only a few days after the tweet about Obama, he was apparently watching Fox and Friends and they reported that 122 Gitmo prisoners reengaged in terrorism. The President then sent out a tweet based on this news, but added additional information, because his tweet read, “122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama administration from Gitmo,
    have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!” Now, again, I just assumed that the President had additional information, but it was quickly discovered that all but 9 of the Gitmo prisoners were released while George W. Bush was President. So Trump, for some inexplicable reason, changed the story to include Obama. One would almost get the idea that he has an ax to grind about the former President.

    The President must realize that every utterance of his carries enormous weight now that he is the President, right? I mean it is one thing to say outlandish things that have no basis in fact when you are merely the host of a lame reality show, but this is different.

    One of the guests on a cable news show, that had formerly worked in the White House, said they would labor for hours over anything that emanated from the White House, to the extent that they would sometimes argue, at length, about something as trivial as a comma. That makes sense, in that every utterance that is attached to the White House is read by not only Americans, but also foreign leaders from all over the world. I guess I would expect the same level of scrutiny from this President.

    So rather than debate this issue with nothing but conjecture and speculation, I will simply wait for the overwhelming evidence that the President must possess. I mean no one would suggest that their predecessor in the White House committed a felony unless they had already reviewed evidence of such a transgression, right?

    • Retired military

      But But Obama stated that there are more African Americans in prison than in College. This has been disproven many times and yet Whos the Buster has never made a comment on how Obama lied about that.
      Or keeping your doctor
      or saving $2500 on healthare
      or keeping your healthcare plan
      or not a smidgen of corruption in the IRS
      or Trump colluding with the russions to hack the elections.

      I eagerlly await Whos the buster condemning Obama for these and other numerous lies which have been PROVEN false whereas Trump has AS OF YET not proven his case yet (even though the NY TImes and numerous liberals have referred to Trump as having been wiretapped).

      Here’s a clue Buster
      When Obama and crew wont categorically deny the existence of any wiretapping and instead use political doublespeak to answer direct questions than you can bet THERE was wiretapping.

    • Vagabond661

      CNN says you don’t need evidence. Ask them for any evidence that the Ruskies hacked the election.

  • Retired military

    In other news

    Emma Watson has shared that she uses fur oil on her vagina.

    Show of hands on who cares about this breaking news story.

    Um yeah I thought not.

    Liberal women want people to respect women and to be thought of as a person yet they seem infatuated with people knowing about their pussy. I mean men dont go around talking about if they hang to the left or right. At least not that I have seen. And if they did the libs would be talking about men having hanging privilege or some such bullshit.

    • Paul Hooson

      She doesn’t shave? The shaved look is much more appealing by far and better for oral when they’re as smooth as possible down there. I think she just ruined a few fantasies for some men who imagined a more smooth area there…

      • Retired military

        I don’t know Paul. Nor do I care if she shaves or not. That was umm kinda my point in the post. I imagine anyone she disappointed could find any number of shaved women to look at on any number of sites.

        • Paul Hooson

          I did understand your point, that this is seemingly meaningless news in the much larger scheme of things. North Korea’s seemingly fast track to build better missiles as well as nuclear arms and other serious concerns such as the security of the United States and Israel are chief concerns of mine.

          • Retired military

            “are chief concerns of mine.

            Mine as well. Especially with the mess that Obama made of stuff.

  • Retired military

    In other news Hillary still isnt president

    David and who’s the buster most affected.

  • Retired military

    In other news today. Trump’s economy “unexpectandly” added more jobs in his first month than any of at least the 12 months of the Obama economy. I remember when unexpectedly kept coming up in jobs on Obama’s economy but it was always that the jobs created were always unexpectedly lower than what was expected..

    • Paul Hooson

      How will Macys, Sears, Kmart and other retailers planning to close around 300 large stores, laying off thousands of workers this year impact the overall economy and jobs growth? Keeping the economy from slipping into a new recession will preoccupy this administration in the coming months. How well this administration responds to this will be a make or break moment.

      • Retired military

        Brick and mortar stores are suffering from online sales. Look at book stores as well. Think of them as the buggy whip makers of 1900. Somehow we survived. And we will do so again.
        Look at the minimum wage jobs that are going to get replaced by automation like the 1000 kiosks that Wendys will be using in the near future thanks to the $15 an hour min wage movement.
        The economy will adjust. It has since men first traded ears of corn grown in their fields for someone else’s fish.
        Also I don’t seem to recall you making remarks such as the above when Obama was President and his economy was creating even less jobs. What is different now? Oh yeah. Trump is president. Got it.

        After I posted I saw this article

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/03/09/genius-burger-flipping-robot-replaces-humans-first-day-work/

        Here is an idea Paul. Send the 20 million illegals home and my guess is that the US unemployment rate will drop even further thus driving wages higher.
        Supply and demand is a law that cant be ignored unless you are the govt using someone else’s money to affect one or the other.

        • Paul Hooson

          A great deal of the current job listings are actually for drivers with a CDL license, or for specialized equipment skills where much of the illegals work in low skills,fast food, food preparation or some food service where many more traditional American workers show little interest in these jobs.

          The Obama economy added 11.3 million jobs, but it is also true that many are in some service, or automation degraded many jobs. This trend seems difficult to reverse for any president as this is the trend of the economy.

          • Retired military

            Maybe where you are at Paul. Not so much other parts of the country. Benefits of being in the flyover country.

            Also most (I daresay 90%) of Obama jobs fit into 2 categories. government or part time.

            Also if you stop paying people not to work you would be suprised at what jobs people will actually do.

          • Paul Hooson

            Part time jobs are a serious threat to the upward mobility of many younger persons to ever even attain the middle class economic status of their parents. I certainly agree with you on things like this.

      • jim_m

        Seriously? You have no idea how the business model for retail has changed.

        Sears and Kmart (The two happen to be one company today so your listing of them as separate shows your ignorance) have been on the brink for over a decade. Any closure is just a matter of admitting what everyone else already knows. Macy’s? Anyone who used to shop at Marshal Field’s in Chicago knows why Macy’s is failing. It took high end department stores and converted them into over priced JC Penny’s . Their quality is shabby and they alienated their clientele.

        These stores are declining, others are rising. The economy has ever been thus. Your argument for stasis is the same as those longing for the smith corona typewriter store. The constant is change. Companies either adapt or they go out of business.

        Will layoffs from companies hurt? Of course. But the difference is that Trump is creating an economy where people have incentives to form new businesses. 0bama punished people who wanted to form businesses. He drove businesses overseas. He drove millions out of the job market. Sure their will be pain whenever any industry faces a conversion to new business conditions. Such was the steel industry a generation ago. The country survived. It might not have under obama.

        • Paul Hooson

          Overpriced rent and overpriced utilities add a great deal on to the price of retail goods in the brick and mortar locations, especially in shopping malls, where some businesses are doing business in smaller and cheaper kiosks such as cell phone service providers.

          • jim_m

            Home Depot is adding 80,000 jobs. Remind me to go look for their kiosk at the mall. You are such an uninformed dumbass.

    • LiberalNightmare

      wow – i wonder how many jobs he saved?

      • jim_m

        He was saving them to be created by Trump.

  • pennywit

    BTW, Scalia, please pay no attention to the dumpster fire currently in progress in Washington ….

    • Scalia

      You talking about Cousins allegedly wanting to go to San Francisco? Maybe it’s true, but it sounds nuts. If Washington’s a “dumpster fire,” SF is the Towering Inferno.

      • pennywit

        If only. A few months ago, the Skins had their problems, but they were a mediocre team on the cusp of becoming perennial playoff contenders. Now?

        * The Skins just fired the GM, and classlessly buried him on his way out. An anonymous source in Redskins Park says it was over alcohol use. But that story seems thin.

        * The Skins’ two best receivers, Desean Jackson and Pierre Garcon, are now with other teams.

        * They have thoroughly alienated Kirk Cousins, probably the most promising homegrown QB since Trent Green.

        • Retired military

          On the bright side they could hire Romo. LOL

          • Scalia

            Romo the former Cowboy going to the Redskins. That’s would be popcorn moment.

          • pennywit

            He’d turnover a new leaf.

        • Scalia

          Yeah, that’s tough. Still, I don’t see the point of scooting to SF. One would think it would have to be really bad in Washington to make that kind of move.

          • pennywit

            Let me put it this way. Normally, if a team releases a front-office person, it’s because the person’s work speaks for itself, and the team’s brass will either offer a semi-frank assessment of the man’s professional record, or else simply say they wish him well as they wash their hands of the now former employee.

            But not the Washington Redskins.

            Pardon my French, but a Skins organization muckety-muck called up the WaPo to shit all over McCloughan with a lot of remarks about his drinking. A good organization doesn’t do that kind of thing.

  • Retired military

    Gee when was the last time you saw this type of story at CNBC. Certainly not in the 8 years of Obama as president.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/10/unemployment-fell-in-february-but-a-more-realistic-rate-remains-much-higher.html

    The national unemployment rate fell to 4.7 percent in February, the Labor Department reported Friday. But relying on that one headline number as an indicator for the economy as a whole ignores import information just below the surface.

    Each month on “Jobs Friday,” the Bureau of Labor Statistics puts out a trove of economic data, each of which provides its own perspective on the labor market and the employment situation. Economists look past the official unemployment rate — that 4.7 percent figure, also known as the “U-3” — to other metrics that give their own view of jobs in the country.

    One of those figures is called the U-6 rate, which has a broader definition of unemployment than does the U-3. In February, that number fell two-tenths of a percent to 9.2 percent.

    The official unemployment rate is defined as “total employed, as a percent of the civilian labor force,” but doesn’t include a number of employment situations in which workers may find themselves. The U-6 rate is defined as all unemployed, plus “persons marginally attached to the workforce, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the labor force.”

    In other words: the unemployed, the underemployed and the discouraged.

    The U-3 rate has in the past few months returned to the prerecession levels that economists consider full employment. The U-6 has seen significant growth in that time, but still remains higher than before the recession.

    Nonfarm payrolls increased by 235,000 jobs in February, beating consensus estimates of 190,000. Expectations for a solid month of job growth rose after private payroll firm ADP reported robust gains on Wednesday.

    • jim_m

      It should be repeatedly pointed out that under obama the media and the left declared constantly that the US was experiencing one of the greatest boom economies of the last century. That the economy was at full employment and that is why it could not grow further.

      It should be also repeatedly pointed out that they are now claiming that there is no need for a wall because there has been net emigration back into Mexico because for the last 8 years the economy has sucked so badly that discouraged illegals are fleeing back to find work.

      Every time an article like this comes out it should be used to shame the left and show how obama was a false god.

      • Retired military

        But but but Trump Russia Watersports