Saber Rattling with North Korea and OPEN THREAD

From Yahoo!

PYONGYANG, April 11 (Reuters) – North Korean state media on Tuesday warned of a nuclear attack on the United States at any sign of U.S. aggression as a U.S. Navy strike group steamed towards the western Pacific.

U.S. President Donald Trump, who has urged China to do more to rein in its impoverished neighbour, said in a Tweet North Korea was “looking for trouble” and the United States would “solve the problem” with or without China’s help.

Tension has escalated sharply on the Korean peninsula with talk of military action by the United States gaining traction following its strikes last week against Syria and amid concerns the reclusive North may soon conduct a sixth nuclear test.

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  • Scalia

    Syria bombing influenced by Ivanka?:

    Donald Trump’s daughter Ivanka influenced her father’s decision to launch military action in Syria, according the President’s son.

    Eric Trump said that he was “sure” his sister, who acts in an official capacity as Assistant to the President, played a part in America’s response to last week’s chemical weapons incident that killed 89 people – including women and babies.

    Mr Trump told the Telegraph: “Ivanka is a mother of three kids and she has influence.

    “I’m sure she said: ‘Listen, this is horrible stuff.’

    “My father will act in times like that. And by the way, he was anti doing anything with Syria two years ago.

    “Then a leader gasses their own people, women and children. At some point America is the global leader and the world’s superpower has to come forward and act and they did with a lot of support of our allies and I think that’s a great thing.”

    President Trump surprised the world when he launched military action against the Bashar Assad regime last week.

    He had previously stated he did not want regime change in the war-torn country but the shocking images of dead children “changed his mind”.

    Eric Trump said that his father was “deeply affected” by the images from Khan Shaykhun.

    He added: “I stay out of politics and I stay out of the administration but you can tell he was deeply affected by those images of the children.

  • Scalia

    Toyota announces $1.33 billion investment in Kentucky plant:

    LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Toyota said Monday it is investing $1.33 billion to retool its sprawling factory in Georgetown, Kentucky, where the company’s flagship Camry sedans are built.

    No new factory jobs are being added, but Toyota says the upgrades amount to the biggest single investment ever at one of its existing plants in the United States. The retooling also will sustain the existing 8,200 jobs at Toyota’s largest plant, where about one-fourth of all Toyota vehicles produced in North America are made, the automaker said.

    “This major overhaul will enable the plant to stay flexible and competitive, further cementing our presence in Kentucky,” said Wil James, president of the plant, which also assembles the Avalon and the Lexus ES 350.

    The updates at the Kentucky plant are part of Toyota’s plans to invest $10 billion in the United States over the next five years, said CEO Jim Lentz of Toyota Motor North America, in a news release.

    President Donald Trump, in a paragraph that Toyota at first said was added to its news release at the White House’s request on Sunday night, praised the investment and said it is “further evidence that manufacturers are now confident that the economic climate has greatly improved under my administration.” The paragraph cited the National Association of Manufacturers’ first-quarter outlook survey. It found that 93.3 percent of manufacturers are somewhat or very positive about their company’s outlook, a record high that’s up from 77.8 percent in December.

    Trump wasn’t included in the first version of a news release distributed on Friday by Toyota in advance of Monday’s announcement. The release, however, included quotes from Kentucky’s two senators and governor.

    White House spokeswoman Natalie Strom said that Toyota “actually reached out to us and wanted to include the president.” Later Monday, Toyota said the company requested the Trump quote.

    • Paul Hooson

      Sadly, because automobiles have become so high tech, it takes $1 billion to design and tool up to build one car these days. The Dodge Dart which lasted only portions of model years between 2012 and 2017 cost $1 billion, based on a Alfa Romeo platform by Fiat. – Back in 1966 to 1970, American Motors developed the Hornet for a mere $40 million and for $6 million more designed the Gremlin. Cars based off this platform named the Concord, Spirit, AMX, Eagle, Eagle SX4 lasted until Dec 1987, giving AMC the longest ever cost effect use a $46 million dollar investment to produce a main car line for an automobile brand. This was even more cost effective than the 1958 to 1974 model run of Checker.

      • Vagabond661

        Before EPA regs did them in.

  • Scalia

    The Target boycott cost more than anyone expected — and the CEO was blindsided:

    (Backlash over Target’s bathroom policy is costing the retailer more than anyone expected.Joe Raedle / Getty)
    Target triggered a nationwide boycott last year with a single blog post — and it turns out the message was as big of a shock to the company’s CEO as it was to some shoppers.

    The blog post, published in April 2016, publicized a policy that said transgender customers were welcome to use the bathroom or fitting room that matched their gender identity.

    “Everyone deserves to feel like they belong,” the post said. “And you’ll always be accepted, respected and welcomed at Target.”

    Target CEO Brian Cornell never approved the post and found out about it only after it was published, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    He later told colleagues that he wouldn’t have approved the decision to “flaunt” the policy and that the backlash was “self-inflicted,” The Journal reported.

    The boycott cost the company millions in lost sales and added expenses. Shopper traffic and same-store sales started sliding for the first time in years after the blog post, and the company was forced to spend $20 million installing single-occupancy bathrooms in all its stores to give critics of the policy more privacy.

    Critics of the policy said it opened the door for sexual predators to victimize women and children inside the retailer’s bathrooms, and more than 1.4 million people signed a pledge to stop shopping at Target unless it reversed the policy.

    Sales fell nearly 6% in the three quarters after the post compared with the same period last year, and same-store sales have dropped every quarter since the post.

    • Not in any way an official or sponsored boycott. This was Target’s customers expressing their displeasure.

  • Scalia

    Sen. Ed Markey: Democrats will restore filibuster for SCOTUS nominees:

    If/when the Democrats regain control of the Senate, will they bring back the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees?

    Sen. Ed Markey thinks so.

    “When the Democrats return to the majority and capture the presidency — which we will, that day is going to arrive — we will restore the 60-vote margin,” the Massachusetts Democrat said Monday on MSNBC. “We will ensure that for the Supreme Court that there is that special margin that any candidate has to reach because that is essential to ensuring that our country has a confidence in those people that are nominated rather than just someone who passes a litmus test.”

    Yeah, right. He’ll have to argue with member of his own party in order for that to fly.

    • pennywit

      I want the filibuster dead and burried.

      • I have no problem with the fillibuster as long as it’s the old style, wherein the member must actually hold the floor and speak for the duration.

    • Hank_M

      Markey is your typical Mass democrat moonbat. He’s on record as saying that Ted Kennedy is the greatest senator of all time. Markey’s religion is global warming.
      He’s got an inflated sense of self importance and is generally an a**hole to those who disagree with him.

      If Markey says the dems will restore the fillibuster, take it to the bank it will never happen.

    • Wild_Willie

      Now that is funny. The dem’s start the downward spiral, they never move to improve or do the right thing whether they get their way or not. Too funny. ww

  • Scalia

    Concealed carrier holds stabbing suspect until police arrive:

    AUSTIN, Ark. (KATV) – Austin police are crediting a concealed carry holder for helping save a man who was being stabbed by his brother.

    Monday night police were dispatched to a stabbing at 10 Marie Lane, where they found 47-year-old Darren Terry with three lacerations. He was taken to the hospital for treatment.

    Darren’s brother, 30-year-old Chris Terry, was taken into custody for first-degree domestic battery in the case and is being held at the Lonoke County jail on a $10,000 bond.

    Upon further investigation, authorities learned a Good Samaritan, identified as Lt. Brandon Teel, witnessed the incident and reported the crime to police.

    When he realized the severity of the fight, police say Teel took out his concealed weapon, for which he has a valid permit, and held the suspect until Austin officers were able to take him into custody.

    • pennywit

      I’m glad he showed good judgment — better to hold folks then to start shooting right away.

      • Lightninbug

        Your post implies that you think it a rarity for CC to step in and use good judgment. Else, why bother with the dichotomy?

        • pennywit

          Your post implies that you approve of situations in which a person carrying a firearm kills an innocent person. See? I can play the game of implications too.

  • Retired military

    China has moved 150k troops to the NK border. Don’t think it is to support the NK army but to shoot folks who try to cross to china from NK.

    • Paul Hooson

      Maybe not shoot, but to handle an overflow of possible border refugees. But, I don’t expect war to break out. North Korea is all about bluster. And, South Korea hardly wants their hugely successful economy wrecked by a war outbreak either.

      • Retired military

        China will kill thousands to ensure they don’t have to deal with hundreds of thousands. There will be no overflow as people will see plenty of dead bodies to deter them from going farther north. It will be covered up as no press will be in the area and anyone who tries to leak news will be executed.
        When Kim falls (and I give him another year at most) there will be a refugee crisis. China will control it with a puppet govt though.

        • Walter_Cronanty

          I hope you’re right.

  • Scalia

    Ginsburg “outs” Graham?

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg appears to have been caught up in a gender-swapping snafu, mistakenly dubbing Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) one of the “women of the Senate.”

    The 84-year-old Supreme Court justice delivered remarks at Allegheny College in Pennsylvania on Monday as she accepted the Prize for Civility in Public Life, honoring her and late Justice Antonin Scalia.

    “Let’s hope members of Congress, the members Allegheny College has already honored — Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. John McCain [R-Ariz.] — the women of the Senate, Sens. Dianne Feinstein [D-Calif.] and Lindsey Graham — let’s hope that they and others of goodwill will lead in restoring harmonious work ways,” Ginsburg said during her acceptance speech.

    • Lightninbug

      I fully understand how she made that error.

    • Vagabond661

      The Barry Manilow of the Republican Party.

  • Scalia

    Putin: “Idlib Was A “False Flag” Attack And We Have Learned That More Are Coming”:

    With Rex Tillerson on his way to Russia, moments ago Russian president Vladimir Putin shocked reporters when he said that Russia has received intelligence from “trusted sources” that more attacks using chemical weapons are being prepared on the Damascus region, meant to pin the blame on the Assad government.

    “We have reports from multiple sources that false flags like this one – and I cannot call it otherwise – are being prepared in other parts of Syria, including the southern suburbs of Damascus. They plan to plant some chemical there and accuse the Syrian government of an attack,” he said at a joint press conference with Italian President Sergio Mattarella in Moscow

    The Russian President announced that Russia will officially turn to the UN in the Hague for an investigation of the chemical weapons’ use in Idlib. Moscow has dismissed suggestions that the Syrian government that it backs could be behind the attack in Idlib province.

    “All incidents reminiscent of the ‘chemical attacks’ that took place in Idlib must be thoroughly investigated,” Putin said.

    Damascus denied the allegations, noting that the targeted area may have been hosting chemical weapons stockpiles belonging to Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) or Al-Nusra Front jihadists.

  • China Threatens To Bomb North Korea’s Nuclear Facilities If It Crosses Beijing’s “Bottom Line”

    By Tyler Durden

    With everyone putting down new and/or revised “red lines”, be it on Syria or North Korea, it was now China’s turn to reveal its “red” or rather “bottom line”, and in a harshly worded editorial titled “The United States Must Not Choose a Wrong Direction to Break the DPRK Nuclear Deadlock on Wednesday” Beijing warned it would attack North Korea’s facilities producing nuclear bombs, effectively engaging in an act of war, if North Korea crosses China’s “bottom line.”

    The editorial in the military-focused Global Times tabloid, owned and operated by the Communist Party’s People’s Daily newspaper, said that North Korea’s nuclear activities must not jeopardize northeastern China, and that if the North impacts China with its illicit nuclear tests through either “nuclear leakage or pollution”, then China will respond with force.

    “China has a bottom line that it will protect at all costs, that is, the security and stability of northeast China… If the bottom line is touched, China will employ all means available including the military means to strike back. By that time, it is not an issue of discussion whether China acquiesces in the US’ blows, but the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) will launch attacks to DPRK nuclear facilities on its own.”

    This, as the editorial puts it, is the “bottom line” for China; should it be crossed China will employ all means available including the military means to strike back,” warned the editorial.

    • Walter_Cronanty

      True, or just propaganda? Is China’s deployment of 150,000 soldiers at its border with NK an outgrowth of this policy, or are the troops there to backstop NK’s troops in case of hostilities with US?

      • Do you have a reason to not take the ChiCom’s at their word?

        • Walter_Cronanty

          I guess I’m just a cynic at heart.

      • Paul Hooson

        One million Chinese aided the North Koreans in 1950.

        • Walter_Cronanty

          With NK causing Japan to have a renewed interest in military power and causing SK to have military power, along with US soldiers and aid, you might be right.

      • Retired military

        THey are there to stop NK refugees fleeing the aftermath of Kim being overthrown.

        • Walter_Cronanty

          At the risk of offending you – and no offense is meant – how do you know that?

          • Retired military

            Best guess Walter. I am hard to offend as well.

            Kim is looked on sort of a god by the NK people. Everything in the average NK life revolves around him. They are brainwashed from birth for the most part. Along with him comes a sense of stability. Stability drilled into that Kim is all and that the rest of the world is evil and will eat your children. Now take that stability away and you have mass chaos.

            The Chinese know that the US isn’t going to invade NK. SK wont invade either. Who wants the hassle of dealing with millions of starving people? There are already NK who chose to try to get into China to get away from NK. Going south is a lot harder due to the number of troops on the border between North and South. And in the South they welcome defectors, China not so much.


            China doesn’t want a million starving NK coming across the border. They have trouble enough feeding their people.
            As I stated elsewhere in this thread I give Kim a year at most. IMO for what little it is worth China sending troops to the border is the first step in preparing for Kim’s departure.

            Also if war breaks out the bombing, tanks, and artillery will be landing around the NK SK border. Not the NK China border. So civilians would most like go where the bombs are not falling.

            BTW I spent 2 years in SK in the Army. That was in 78-79 and 82-83. Yes a LOT has changed since then.

            If NK is attacked by either SK or the US or both then NK has about 100k or more artillery pieces all within range of Seoul from the north side of the border. Planes can fly from NK to Seoul in under a minute. The result of an attack on NK would result in I would estimate about a million SK casualties with Seoul having like 8 million people. The US would devastate NK army and air force but that would take time. What US president wants to see a million casualties on CNN 24-7? All of that doesn’t event take into account any nukes that may be used.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            This article seems to confirm your “best guess:”

            China is increasingly angry at Koreans in general for not showing sufficient respect. The biggest (and growing) problem is North Korea. China wants a stable communist dictatorship in North Korea, not a failed government that would send several million starving refugees fleeing across the border. China also does not want North Korea to collapse and get absorbed by South Korea. That would put a democracy on China’s border and give many Chinese a view of how things might be much better with a different political system in China. Koreans are seen as “younger brothers” to China, and it’s embarrassing if the younger brother outdoes his older sibling. South Korean democracy is played down in China, but that would be difficult if a democratic, united, Korea were right on the border.

            …China has recently sent 150,000 additional troops to the North Korean border to emphasize Chinese concern. While many of these troops are there for training (which the Chinese Army is doing a lot more of), other are to reinforce border security and most of those additional troops are showing up at the border so North Koreans can see them and draw their own conclusions. The latest escalation is accompanied by blunt suggestions in Chinese state controlled media that perhaps some Chinese military action inside North Korea might be more persuasive.

            April 11, 2017: A Chinese daily newspaper (Global Times) known for being a state-controlled media outlet used to test new ideas published an item today pointing out that if North Korea does not abandon its nuclear weapons program (which is seen as a threat to China) then China will bomb the nuclear facilities and North Korea will have to live with that or suffer further military and economic consequences they cannot respond to (by attacking China). This article also warned the United States not to contemplate doing this, as North Korea was for neighbor China to deal with, not some distant superpower. Within hours the article was removed from the Global Times website, but many people had seen it and it still existed in Google cache.

          • How many ways can an artillery piece malfunction due to lack of maintenance?

            And how long can something like tritonal sit safely before firing it becomes… questionable?

          • Retired military

            Good questions.
            the thing is that NK has spent a lot of its GDP on arms over the years. Moreso than things its needs for its people.
            For the simplistic artillery pieces not much is needed. The shells and the firing mechanism. think of the WW2 artillery pieces we had. Only NK has theirs in hardened bunkers where they arent really exposed that much to the elements. the electronics are minimal if non existent.
            Say each artillery piece can only fire an average of 5 shells before it breaks down for mechanical reasons and one out of ever hundred shells is chemical.

            10k artillery pieces X 5 shells = 50000 shells in a city of 8 million. 500 of those are chemical weapoins. If only 1 person is killed by one shell then that is 50000 deaths.

            That is just for artillery. The planes take less than a min to reach Seoul from NK airspace. say only 10 make it through. 10 planes with 3 or 4 500 pound bombs from each. That is a lot of destruction rained down on a civilian population.

            Look at the press coverage for 2 or 3 civilian casualties. from a Tomahawk ;missile attack. Think of the negative press for even 50k deaths due to the US striking first.

            See below for article on NK military spending. And it doesnt spend a lot of money on pay for the military like the US.
            To give you a comparision. When I was in SK in 1983 the South Korean govt paid its army about $6 US per month. I am betting that NK didnt spend more than that on their troops.


            The North said it spent $570 million on its military in 2009, but the real amount, calculated on an exchange rate based on purchasing power parity terms, was $8.77 billion, the state-run Korea Institute of Defense Analyses (KIDA) said in a report.

            The North’s gross national income stood at 28.6 trillion won ($25 billion) in 2009, compared with South Korea’s 1,068 trillion won ($958 billion), it said.

            North Korea leader Kim Jong-il’s ruling principle has been a policy of “songun”, or putting the military first, at the expense of its moribund closed economy.

            “North Korea has increased its military spending continuously despite its extreme economic crisis in the 1990s and its negative growth after the mid 2000s,” the KIDA said.

            “North Korea’s actual military spending is estimated to be 13 to 15 times greater (than the amount it announced) applying North Korea’s currency exchange rate in purchasing power,” the report said

          • Here’s hoping we don’t find out what their failure rates are…

      • pennywit

        I suspect the answer is “both.”

        • Walter_Cronanty

          Your point is well taken, although Retired Military has good points as to why they are there – to protect against NKoreans flooding the border or to take action against the current NK leader.
          The extent of Kim’s lunacy is illustrated by the fact that a ChiCom- backed puppet is seemingly preferable.
          Of course, it could all be Kabuki theater to misdirect our resources and cost us money. All of which reminds me of the old Chinese [if it isn’t Chinese in origin, it should be] curse: “May you live in interesting times.”

          • pennywit

            Kim Jong-un worries me in a way his dad didn’t. His dad kept the nuclear program around as a way to rattle his sabers and get concessions from the West. I get the distinct impression that Kim Jong-un really wants to blow stuff up and prove he’s a man.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            He would have to have a death wish. Maybe he has some romantic fantasy about going out in a blaze of “glory.” Hope not.

          • I think he’s having the same sort of trouble that every successor has in a fucked-up dictatorship like NK – how do you keep all the balls you’re juggling in the air, when dropping one (or more) can mean the collapse of your regime?

            I think he sees that something’s about to drop, and figures by blustering he can delay the inevitable. (Which will hopefully include the end of the Kim rule of NK.)

          • pennywit

            I think he’s having the same sort of trouble that every successor has in a fucked-up dictatorship like NK – how do you keep all the balls you’re juggling in the air, when dropping one (or more) can mean the collapse of your regime?

            Judging by his actions so far, it’s all in the execution.

          • Well, he’s been busy executing his possible competition….

          • pennywit

            Shark Tank: North Korea.

  • Walter_Cronanty

    Was Susan Rice Obama’s designated liar because she’s pathological or because she’s easily manipulated?

    Rarely in any administration has one person so willingly assumed the role of scapegoat and fall person. When Rice’s assertions are easily refuted, her supporters usually fall back on boilerplate charges of racism and sexism. Yet other equally high-ranking minority advisers and officials in the Obama administration, such as Loretta Lynch and Valerie Jarrett, always successfully avoided most scandals. They did so, for example during the WikiLeaks disclosures on Team Clinton, perhaps because, as far savvier old hands, they knew how to navigate around rather than wade into media frenzy.
    All this and more returns us to the original question: Is Rice’s chronic deception socio-pathological?
    Or is she more a tragic figure, whose outsized ego was manipulated by the Obama administration to ensure that she was on spec, wheeled out as its most devoted apologist, the most practiced in the arts of deception, the most media-hungry, and the most likely to be exempt from criticism?

    • Retired military

      I will take both for $500 Alex.

  • Scalia

    Charlie Gard case: Doctors can withdraw baby’s life support:

    Doctors can withdraw life support from a sick baby with a rare genetic condition against his parents’ wishes, a High Court judge has ruled.

    Specialists at Great Ormond Street Hospital said eight-month-old Charlie Gard has irreversible brain damage and should be moved to palliative care.

    His parents Connie Yates and Chris Gard, from London, had wanted to take him to the US for a treatment trial.

    They said they were “devastated” by the decision but intended to appeal.

    Their solicitor, Laura Hobey-Hamsher, said they could not understand why Mr Justice Francis had not “at least given Charlie the chance of treatment”.

    She said the couple would take further advice on challenging the ruling once their legal team had studied it.

    They have three weeks to lodge an appeal.

    Hospital bosses said they would continue to provide life-support treatment until a decision about an appeal had been made.

    • Walter_Cronanty

      Welcome to “single-payer health insurance.” Liverpool Care Pathway for anyone?

    • Paul Hooson

      I’m prolife and this really offends my sense of the value of life. A little baby has the right to live a long life and every medical technology should be used to save their valuable lives.

    • pennywit

      When my niece was born, she was about three months premature. She spent about a month in the NICU. I didn’t spend much time in the NICU, but I visited her a couple times with my brother. She was a tiny, helpless thing, constantly hooked up to about a dozen different instruments monitored her condition and kept her living.

      I also remember that there wasn’t a lot of space in the NICU. They clearly had limited space for preemies. As I read this, I weigh two questions.

      1) If my niece had a minuscule but nonzero chance of living, would I want the doctors to pull her off the devices keeping her alive?

      2) If the NICU were overcrowded, and my niece had a large chance of surviving with proper care, how would I feel about the child with minuscule chances at survival ocupying the space that might save my niece’s life?

      • Scalia

        1) No.
        2) Largely irrelevant.

      • jim_m

        In the healthcare model that we had before obamacare, services were calculated to be able to capture revenue and not miss revenue opportunity. So space was calculated to minimize the risk of being over crowded and therefore necessitating shifting patients to other institutions.

        obamacare necessitates reduction in services and therefore rationing of healthcare because reduced payments to providers (called reducing healthcare costs in order to fool the pig ignorant into thinking that government is actually reducing the cost of providing healthcare) results in reduced capacity.

        People scoffed at the notion of death panels but they are part and parcel with left wing policy. They can call it whatever term they can use to fool the gullible, but the need and the concept are the same and they are employed in every country that has socialize medicine.

  • Paul Hooson

    North Korea is in no military position to wage and win a nuclear war with the U.S., but will rapidly develop a larger and larger nuclear force to deter the U.S., although the U.S. has only defensive goals and not offensive against this rogue Stalinist state. I seriously doubt that North Korean regime is suicidal and enjoys the good life way too much to wage an actual war, but counts on bluster to divert the population from starvation and poverty.

    • Your faith in the Kim families sanity is something between alarming and amusing…

      • Paul Hooson

        They’re a crazy family that enjoy the good life, living as kings in a nation of want and poverty, and not a suicidal family. In the past they made many crazy statements and then the U,S. and China send them food and money in an endless cycle of extortion to quiet them down for a few days. – My father was a soldier in Korea in 1950. It was a heck of a war…

        • Walter_Cronanty

          The quicker Russia is made to spend large amounts of $$$ to support Assad, the quicker they will realize life would be easier without him. They won’t abandon Syria as a client/puppet state, but they may well throw Assad under the bus.

    • Retired military

      a. NK wont attack unless attacked first as they know they will lose.
      b. NK will use nukes after they are attacked because Kim knows that he is dead no matter what.
      c. The only solution is for China to tell the generals to get rid of Kim or they and their families will die.

      • Paul Hooson

        I fully agree with your opinions. China did indeed give North Korea a strong warning today to stop their nuclear weapons advancements.

    • pennywit

      I would have said that the first two Presidents Kim were crazy like foxes. The new one is just crazy.

  • stan25

    The state controlled media and most people seem to forget that there has always been a state of conflict already in existence between the United States and North Korea/China. There has never been a really true peace agreement that was ever agreed to. What now exists is truce agreement and what the Norks have been doing is a breach of that agreement.

  • Scalia

    ‘Trump must hang’: Fresno State vows to ‘review’ professor’s violent comments:

    Fresno State University said they will fully cooperate with any federal investigation after a professor posted a series of Twitter messages calling for President Trump to be hanged and for Republicans to be executed.

    “To save American democracy, Trump must hang,” Professor Lars Maischak wrote on his Twitter account in February. “The sooner and the higher, the better.”

    “Has anyone started soliciting money and design drafts for a monument honoring the Trump assassin, yet?” the professor asked in an earlier tweet.

    Maischak, who is a history lecturer, also went after Republicans – tweeting, “Justice = The execution of two Republicans for each deported immigrant.”

    So why all the hullabaloo now over a bunch of tweets written back in February? Well, the tweets apparently went unnoticed and unreported until Breitbart News broke the story over the weekend.


    Maischak told television station KSEE he was “appalled that the president of the university is allowing himself to be instrumentalized for a right-wing smear campaign.”

    “Specifically, the suggestion that I had made ‘potential direct threats of violence that may violate the law’ is unwarranted,” he said. “It constitutes an embrace by the university of the claims made by right-wing propaganda outlets.”

    The professor should be fired—immediately.

    • pennywit

      The professor should be fired—immediately.

      It will be less costly if, of his own accord, he leaves the job to pursue independent projects and spend time with his family.

      • Walter_Cronanty

        I wouldn’t wish that on anybody’s family, even his.

        • Scalia

          Reading some of his other tweets shows that this guy is really, REALLY off the rails. However, given the prospect of a Secret Service interview, he has issued an apology.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            What’d he say? “I’m sorry Trump hasn’t been killed yet.”

  • Scalia

    Judge declines divorce case, citing gay marriage ruling:

    A local judge contends the U.S. Supreme Court decision on same-sex marriage has derailed Tennessee’s ability to determine what constitutes divorce — leaving one Signal Mountain couple married against their will.

    Hamilton County Chancellor Jeffrey Atherton denied the divorce petition last week after hearing from seven witnesses and going through 77 exhibits. Among several reasons he cited in rejecting the couple’s divorce, one was the Supreme Court’s June ruling.

    Atherton said the Supreme Court must clarify “when a marriage is no longer a marriage.” Otherwise, he contended, state courts are impaired from addressing marriage and divorce litigation altogether.

    “The conclusion reached by this Court is that Tennesseans have been deemed by the U.S. Supreme Court to be incompetent to define and address such keystone/central institutions such as marriage, and, thereby, at minimum, contested divorces,” Atherton wrote.

    The couple — Thomas Bumgardner, 65, and his wife, Pamela, 61 — were married in November 2002, records show. They had no children together and filed for divorce in September 2014, citing irreconcilable differences.

    The ruling may be read HERE.

    • pennywit

      It reads like a judicial tantrum and some grandstanding with an eye toward the next election. That said, if you look past the Obergefell-related table-thumping, it sounds like the parties didn’t meet their procedural burdens.

      • Scalia

        Yeah, I thought you might get a kick out of that. I’m assuming the judge knows better. If so, it’s hard for me to figure out just what he was hoping to accomplish.

        • Walter_Cronanty

          A well-written, somewhat amusing rail against the justice machine. Thanks for the cite – enjoyed the opinion.

  • Retired military

    Well with all the rhetoric flying around if I lived in the Seoul area I would be taking a 3 week vacation down to the south tip of the country.
    I am thinking it is possible that China is going to be moving at least some of the 150k troops into NK to stabilize the govt and they take down Kim themselves either directly or through surrogates.
    I don’t see Trump backing down and I don’t see Kim backing down from doing the nuke tests this weekend.
    If the US coalition (US SK and Japan) does attack I don’t see ground troops going above the 38th parallel to keep Chinese troops from intervening on behalf of NK. As long as the US seeks to maintain the status quo as far as NK being a communist country and having a Chinese puppet as head of state I think that China will cooperate. Even in that event I still foresee massive number of civilian casualties in Seoul unless China has taken charge of the NK military.

    • Retired military

      with news like this

      I am inclined more and more to think that China will be removing Kim within a month (at least we can hope).

      • Scalia

        Kim is a textbook illustration on why monarchs (if a nation chooses to have them) should be symbols without any authority to run a government.

        • Retired military


          At lunch I was running an errand on post and saw a soldier walking down the road carrying suitcases. I stopped and picked him up and was taking him to his destination.

          me “Just getting stationed here?”
          Him “yes”
          Me “where you coming from?”
          Him “Korea”
          Me “Where were you at over there?”
          Him “Camp Casey ” (13 miles from the DMZ)
          Me “Glad to be here vs there right now?”
          Him “HELL YEAH”

  • Scalia

    Huffington Post author wants to prohibit white men from voting:

    Some of the biggest blows to the progressive cause in the past year have often been due to the votes of white men. If white men were not allowed to vote, it is unlikely that the United Kingdom would be leaving the European Union, it is unlikely that Donald Trump would now be the President of the United States, and it is unlikely that the Democratic Alliance would now be governing four of South Africa’s biggest cities.

    If white men no longer had the vote, the progressive cause would be strengthened. It would not be necessary to deny white men indefinitely – the denial of the vote to white men for 20 years (just less than a generation) would go some way to seeing a decline in the influence of reactionary and neo-liberal ideology in the world. The influence of reckless white males were one of the primary reasons that led to the Great Recession which began in 2008. This would also strike a blow against toxic white masculinity, one that is long needed.

    At the same time, a denial of the franchise to white men, could see a redistribution of global assets to their rightful owners. After all, white men have used the imposition of Western legal systems around the world to reinforce modern capitalism. A period of twenty years without white men in the world’s parliaments and voting booths will allow legislation to be passed which could see the world’s wealth far more equitably shared. The violence of white male wealth and income inequality will be a thing of the past.


    It is obvious that this violent status quo will not change without a struggle, and the only way to do so will be through the expropriation of these various assets and equitably distribute them to those who need them. This will not only make the world a more equitable place, but will also go some way to paying the debt that white males owe the world. Over the past 500 years colonialism, slavery, and various aggressive wars and genocides, have been due to the actions of white men. Redistributing some of their assets will go some way to paying the historical debt that they owe society.

    It is no surprise that liberalism – and its ideological offshoots of conservatism and libertarianism – are the most popular ideologies among white males. These ideologies with their focus on individuals and individual responsibility, rather than group affiliation, allow white men to ignore the debt that they owe society, and from acknowledging that most of their assets, wealth, and privilege are the result of theft and violence.

    Some may argue that this is unfair. Let’s be clear, it may be unfair, but a moratorium on the franchise for white males for a period of between 20 and 30 years is a small price to pay for the pain inflicted by white males on others, particularly those with black, female-identifying bodies. In addition, white men should not be stripped of their other rights, and this withholding of the franchise should only be a temporary measure, as the world rights the wrongs of the past.

    Readers are encouraged to read the entire piece for comic relief. We won’t hold our breath and wait for the MSM to focus on the HP like they do on Breitbart. Although Garland is an obvious crank, she exemplifies the dictatorial mentality of the Left. Leftists care nothing for rights.

    • Scalia

      And lest one think that this nut doesn’t express the views of the HP, here is their reaction to the outraged replies they’ve been receiving:

      Garland’s underlying analysis about the uneven distribution of wealth and power in the world is pretty standard for feminist theory. It has been espoused in many different ways by feminist writers and theorists for decades now. In that sense, there was nothing in the article that should have shocked or surprised anybody (or so we thought.) It would appear that perhaps much of the outcry derives from a very poor reading of the article — or perhaps none at all. Dismantling the patriarchal systems that have brought us to where we are today, a world where power is wielded to dangerous and destructive ends by men, and in particular white men, necessarily means a loss of power to those who hold it. A loss of oppressive power. Those who have held undue power granted to them by patriarchy must lose it for us to be truly equal. This seems blindingly obvious to us.

      Nervous libs will probably try to isolate this to South Africa. Well, now’s their time to speak up…

      • pennywit

        The piece has been yanked. I wish I could have read the whole thing to figure out whether it was a serious idea or a Swiftian “modest proposal.”

        • Scalia

          I can assure you that Garland was totally serious. It also looks like the HP is reversing course and condemning Garland’s piece. I commend them for it.

          • pennywit

            Last I read, HuffPo was also saying they couldn’t track down “Garland.” A Poe is a distinct possibility.

        • The HuffPo doesn’t do satire, I believe. Taking what they say at face value is the wisest course…

    • How about instead we play no representation without taxation?