Trump Vindicated and OPEN THREAD

From ABC News:

For all the unsavory details in the James Comey account of the president’s behavior, tonight the White House and some top Republicans see big vindication for Trump.

When all is said and done, Comey has now publicly gone on record with what Trump always wanted him to say but which he wouldn’t or couldn’t for the past four months -– resolving the core irritant for Trump since he’s taken office — declaring that he told Trump he’s not personally under investigation by the FBI.

“The President feels completely and totally vindicated,” his attorney Marc Kasowitz declared tonight.

For Trump, it must feel like vindication not just from the criminal conspiracies but also for his abrupt and controversial decision to fire his FBI director. Only out of a job at the FBI has Comey finally done what Trump so desperately wanted.

In essence, Comey says the Trump encounters — nine one-on-ones over four months — were uncomfortable, but not impactful. The investigations continued unimpeded. The conversations may have been highly unusual, if not grossly inappropriate, but not necessarily illegal.

It is entirely possible that what Comey meant and what Trump understood were two different things, and that may get clarified with Comey’s testimony Thursday before the Senate Intelligence Committee. But it’s hard not to read Comey’s plain statement any other way: “We were not personally investigating President Trump. I reminded him [on March 30th] I had previously told him that,” he wrote.

In fact, Comey even reveals for the first time that Trump encouraged him in private to continue the FBI investigation into his associates: “The president went on to say that if there were some ‘satellite’ associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out,” Comey says.

It’s a sentiment that does not bolster a case for intent to obstruct justice. Comey even acknowledges that he interpreted Trump’s “I hope you can let this go” comment regarding the FBI probe into Mike Flynn as entirely unrelated to “the broader investigation into Russia or possible links to his campaign.”

As we have noted previously, rabid Democrats and their fake news purveyors in the MSM were never concerned about the law. They were supremely embarrassed that despite their best efforts to derail the Trump campaign, he became president. Their humiliation over losing to somebody as “despicable” as Trump drove them to seek solace in finding something—anything—to make “sense” of their monumental defeat. Lying as usual, they trumped up charges of Russian conspiracies and obstruction of justice. Wild-eyed with crazed obsession to bring Trump down, they wiped the foam from their mouths long enough to mutter the word impeach.

Thankfully, there are a few Democrats like Alan Dershowitz who still have a grasp of the law. He believes civil liberties are at stake, but neo-liberals couldn’t care less about civil liberties. It’s time to let the antiseptic of sunlight shine on these vampires before it’s too late.

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  • Scalia

    Boy Believes He’s A Girl, Defeats Girls At Connecticut State Championships. Actual Girl Too Afraid To Say Anything About It

    As the competitors settled into their blocks Tuesday for the 100-meter girls final at the CIAC Class M track meet — one sprinter clearly more powerfully built than the others — the question could not be ignored.

    As that same powerfully built sprinter overtook the field in the final 70 meters of the 200 finals, the question remained.

    And as Stonington junior Kate Hall, who had won the Class M 100 last year, brushed back tears after she had finished second behind transgender female Andraya Yearwood of Cromwell in the 100, this much was clear:

    The question that could not be ignored has no easy, painless answer.

    “It’s frustrating,” said Hall, who finished third in the 200. “But that’s just the way it is now.”

    There was no more gracious runner in defeat Tuesday at New Britain Stadium than Hall. There was no more gracious runner in double victory than Yearwood.

    No, the two did not talk.

    “I wouldn’t know what I would say, honestly,” Hall said.


    None of this, in my mind, answers the question that could not be ignored.

    Yearwood, who has yet to undergo any hormonal treatment on the long process toward sex reassignment surgery, sprinted faster than anyone else for two state class titles.

    Was it fair?

    On a biologically competitive basis, it was not.

    • Hank_M

      This is great! I hope they all enjoy the monster they’re created.

      Maybe down the road, women will discover that the progressives care little about them also.

      • Walter_Cronanty

        As progressive as pro-sports has become, I wonder when we’ll have the first 6’10”, 250 muscle-bound transgender playing in the WNBA.

        • Scalia

          Transgender boxers would be interesting too.

    • pennywit

      This actually concerns me quite a bit; by letting a M->F trans participate in a women’s track event, you’re essentially letting in an athlete who’s been taking steroids for the past decade and a half.

      • jim_m

        If gender is nothing more than a social construct then the affect of steroids on the human body is nothing more than a social construct as well. The party that screams “Science!” At us all actively denies that science exists.

        • pennywit

          When I was in undergrad, we did indeed learn that gender was indeed a social construct, but sex was biological.

          In this context, “gender” was defined as stereotypes that a society has/or social expectations of a male vs. female. For example, the idea that a male is supposed to work, while the female is supposed to tend the home. Or that the male wears pants but the woman may not wear pants. Or that a male is a warrior, while a female is not.

          “Sex,” in that context, referred to the plumbing.

          • pennywit

            addendum: I think people today use different definitions for “gender” and “sex.”

          • Brett Buck

            Yes, delusion fools do a lot of things that make no sense.

          • Retired military

            Nonsense. Also my gender pronoun is “Your majestic greatness” make sure if you reply you start it off using my correct gender pronoun.

          • jim_m

            Gender is not a social construct. Certain social norms as they relate to gender are, however, a lot of behavior is driven by hormonal and other biological factors. To say that sex is biological but gender is entirely social is in direct conflict with centuries of science.

          • Yeah, that’s what’s rather ridiculous about this.

            You look down, and you can determine your sex pretty easily. (Except for the very, very small number of hermaphrodites.)

            But it does gather attention to say you’re a guy in a girl’s body, or the other way around. And I’m forced to wonder just how many of those who are insisting they’re the wrong sex are looking for the attention – or in the case of this jackass, an advantage over his opponents.

          • jim_m

            About 99% are people looking for attention and fully 100% are people who need psychiatric help and not “gender reassignment surgery”.

            Although if you are going to free Bradley Manning for his treason, I feel a little better about it that we at least cut his balls off.

          • Neither charged nor convicted of Treason…

            He still should have died at the end of a hangman’s rope.

          • Seek a refund.

      • pennywit

        This actually reminds me of something from a few years ago. An athlete with no legs wanted to compete in regular track-and-field events with his prosthetic legs. The problem was that is prosthetic legs were so well-engineered that they were better than human legs. I don’t remember how that turned out.

        • Retired military

          Yeah. That guy is in jail now for killing his girlfriend.

      • Retired military

        Hey. It is a liberals world. We just have to live in it.

      • Yep. And who’s to say he’s actually going to go ahead and ‘transition’ with hormones and the Big Snip?

        Come his senior year, he may find he’s a guy again after all. (NTTAWWT, of course.)

    • Retired military

      Red on red is always a good thing.

      • jim_m

        You mean blue on blue

        • Retired military

          I am think of red as in army red as in Opposing force. My military background is showing.

    • Walter_Cronanty

      As I’ve said before, any society that cannot determine which bathroom a person with male genitalia should use is society that has well and truly lost its way.

  • Scalia

    Comey: New York Times story about Trump colluding with Russia not true.

  • Scalia

    Lynch tried to get Comey to avoid the word investigation:

  • Scalia

    Gay Trump supporters denied entry into Charlotte Pride Parade:

    CHARLOTTE, NC (FOX 46) – A group says ‘Charlotte Pride’ is pushing them out of the Gay Pride Parade because they support President Trump.

    “I’m very proud of my country, proud of my president, and was once proud of my community,” said Brian Talbert, who said he’s proud to be gay and proud to be a Trump supporter.

    His truck has a Trump-Pence bumper sticker and ‘Not a liberal’ sign on the back window.

    “I’m very proud of my vote. I don’t regret my vote. I will vote for Donald Trump again. I’m proud of my president. I don’t think I should be vilified because I’m proud of a U.S. president as an American.”

    Talbert, a member of “Gays for Trump, which is not affiliated with the “Gays for Trump” based in Greensboro, NC, said he and a fellow gay Trump supporter sent in an application to Charlotte Pride so they could have a float in this year’s Charlotte Pride Parade.

    “It was going to be fun. We wanted to be energetic. We wanted to show that we weren’t the racist, bigot, misogynistic…We wanted to show that we are Americans, love our country and our president. We wanted to be there to celebrate gay pride. Everything fell into place except being able to celebrate who I am,” he said.

    Talbert said Charlotte Pride sent him an email denying his application for a float.

    “For a group of people to claim to want tolerance, acceptance, and give it to every single person you can imagine to give it to, for them to sit back and judge me for exercising my right as an American to choose my leader without judgment is hypocritical,” Talbert said.

    • pennywit

      Charlotte Pride has the right to exclude them. But it’s a dang stupid decision. I would have said let them into the parade, but let them know in advance that other parade participants probably won’t like them.

      • jim_m

        Yes it’s stupid, but who ever claimed that prejudice, hate and intolerance was anythhing but that? Well, except for the left that is.

      • pennywit

        Ruminating further: The gay community literally spent decades trying to get parade organizers to let them in — for example, gay Irishmen who wanted to march in St. Paddy’s Day parades. One think that after decades being (wrongfully, in my opinion) excluded, they would have some sympathy for Trump supporters.

        • Scalia

          Yes, that’s precisely the point. They clamored for years under the “inclusion” banner only to burn it over political disagreements.

          • Brian Brandt

            In my reading of history, when the oppressed gain power they give back in spades. Most recent example – South Africa.

          • jim_m

            No. This is only true when they are socialists. It is difficult to discern which is their totalitarian socialist ideology and what is not. Democracies do not have this problem to anything remotely like the same extent.

        • It’s rather like the old saying.

          Conservatives think liberals are misguided but mean well.
          Liberals think conservatives are evil.

          Supporting Trump=Evil. Full stop. There’s no mitigating factors, no possibility of compromise – they’ve come out on the Wrong Side and must be excluded.

          Sigh. Ever notice that folks who demand tolerance and preach tolerance usually show pretty much no tolerance?

  • Scalia

    13 Alabama counties saw 85 percent drop in food stamp participation after work requirements restarted:

    Thirteen previously exempted Alabama counties saw an 85 percent drop in food stamp participation after work requirements were put in place on Jan. 1, according to the Alabama Department of Human Resources.

    The counties – Greene, Hale, Perry, Dallas, Lowndes, Wilcox, Monroe, Conecuh, Clarke, Washington, Choctaw, Sumter and Barbour – had been exempt from a change that limited able-bodied adults without dependents to three months of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits within a three-year time frame unless they were working or participating in an approved training program.

    During the economic downturn of 2011-2013, several states – including Alabama – waived the SNAP work requirements in response to high unemployment. It was reinstituted for 54 counties on Jan. 1, 2016 and for the remaining 13 on Jan. 1, 2017. As of April 2017, the highest jobless rate among the 13 previously excluded counties was in Wilcox County, which reported a state-high unemployment rate of 11.7 percent, down more than 11 percentage points from the county’s jobless rate for the same month of 2011.

    Ending the exemption has dramatically cut the number of SNAP recipients in the counties.

    • pennywit

      This part worries me:

      participating in an approved training program.

      Is the “approved training program” actually going to lead to employment? Or is it just a stopgap? I’ve seen stories here and there about people who go through retraining (perhaps for a career in coding, for example), only to find that their “new” industry doesn’t have any jobs for them.

      • Retired military

        As long as the training doesn’t involve sitting on their ass at home and actually involves them learning something useful I am okay with it.

  • Scalia

    Oklahoma man shoots, kills neighbor who was trying to drown twin babies:

    ADA, Okla. – An Ada man was shot and killed by a neighbor Friday after he tried drowning twin babies.

    “It’s awful because I’ve held the babies and, like, I’ve played with them and I just gave them clothes yesterday,” said neighbor Summer Pierce.

    Officials say Leland Foster was allegedly threatening the mother of the children with a knife during the ordeal.

    A 12-year-old girl who was in the home ran to a neighbor’s house for help.

    The neighbor, Cash Freeman, rushed back over to the home to find Foster trying to drown the 3-month-old twins, a boy and a girl, in the bathtub.

    He then shot Foster twice in the back with a gun.

    We spoke to Freeman off camera and he told us when he saw what was happening in the bathroom, he did what he had to do to save the babies. However, he told us he was concerned that he could be in trouble.

    Pierce doesn’t believe he should be.

    “I think he did the right thing because who knows what would happen, because who knows what would have happened to the babies if he hadn’t intervened. They might not have made it.”

  • Scalia

    IBD/TIPP Poll: Americans See Anti-Trump Media, ‘Political Witch Hunt,’ Pushing Russia Investigation:

    A majority of Americans doubt the 2016 presidential election outcome was influenced by Russia and nearly half agree that the current investigation is a “political ‘witch hunt’ aimed at getting the president impeached,” according to the latest IBD/TIPP Poll.

    Moreover, despite growing talk among Trump’s political foes of possible impeachment, 65% called such talk “premature” while 32% said it was “appropriate.” However, just 4% of Republicans agreed that impeachment talk was appropriate, compared to 60% of Democrats.

    The results of the national poll of 903 adults, taken from May 30 to June 6, strongly suggest that many Americans see the current investigation into alleged Trump campaign ties to Russian government officials as largely political and driven by sensational media coverage.

    “A majority of the public feels that the news media are putting the cart before the horse regarding discussions of alleged collusion between President Trump and Russia,” said Raghavan Mayur, president of TechnoMetrica, who directed the IBD/TIPP Poll.

    “The American people perceive that, in the court of the media, Trump is guilty until proven innocent,” Mayur added. “Since the election, the media have persistently questioned the president’s legitimacy on various fronts, from Michigan’s close vote count and Russian interference to Trump’s mental capacity, and, presently, alleged collusion with Russia,” Mayur added. “So far, the public has not been swayed.”

  • Hank_M

    What a farce this has all been. And about all Comey was able to demonstrate is that Trump is sometimes dishonest. As if we haven’t seen that before, especially from the White House cough-Obama-cough.

    Also interesting is the ABC article you linked to as the tone if 100% different than what they reported on World News Tonite last night where they kept pushing the obstruction of justice angle and finished by stating that Trump has done nothing to insure the integrity of upcoming elections.

    The media sucks! And everyone knows it but them.

  • Wild_Willie

    A seasoned professional director operating for years through the charted waters of politics doesn’t know what to do when Trump told him to go easy on Flynn? This is a stupid man or a liar. I am going with liar. Comey is a leaker and should be put on trial. He knew better. More than anyone.

    Very good day for Trump. I didn’t and do not want him to know how to ‘navigate’ the swamp. I as others just want him to act on policy and damn the intrusions. ww

  • TheyTukRJobz

    This was the entirely too predictable result that anybody with an ounce of objectivity and integrity saw coming for months now.

    It also exposes the childish world view of people who see Trump as some kind of comic-book villain for what it is – puerile fantasy.

  • pennywit

    Comey brought food for both sides of the aisle. But in the main, I don’t think think Trump comes out vindicated.

    • Scalia

      In light of the fact that this was hyped to epic proportions, that Comey verified what we’ve been saying for months (no evidence of collusion), that Trump was not under investigation, and that Trump encouraged an investigation to determine if any of his assistants were involved in collaborating with the Russians, I’d say that “vindication” is precisely accurate.

      Moreover, given that a person is innocent until proven guilty, the verification that the evidence bin is empty more than spells victory for Trump. Something may come down the pike tomorrow, but for today, the Democrats have a lot of eggs to wipe off their faces.

      • Retired military

        Yeah after Comey’s testimony and opening statement the left felt so vindicated that ABC, CNN and the NY Times all had to put out retractions of stories.

    • Retired military

      a. Comey admitted to leaking information.
      b. Comey admitted that Lynch pressured him to use the same language for the Hillary investigation as the Hillary campaign tema.
      c. Ref item b. Comey showed himself to be a biased pussy because he felt compelled to write memos about his discussion with Trump due to Trump “May lie” yet didn’t write memos about meetings with Lynch when she was clearly prejudiced as to the outcome of the Hillary investigation.
      d. Comey confirmed that he told Trump 3 times that Trump was not under investigation.
      e. Comey basically called NY Times fake news.
      f. Comey showed himself to be a partisian hack and deserving of being fired.

  • pennywit

    I don’t think the Comey testimony changed any people’s minds. If you hated Trump before Comey, you hated Trump after Comey. If you liked Trump before Comey, you liked him after Comey. If you had in your bedroom photos of the president with “ME + Trump 4-EVA” written on them in lipstick, you were a creepy stalker before Comey, and you’re still a creepy stalker after Comey.

    • Retired military

      It may not have changed anyone’s mind BUT it did show some leftist how utterly worthless this is whole Russia thing is.

  • jim_m

    The funerary mood displayed by some leftist commentators was almost as good as it was last November.

  • Brett Buck

    Comey very conveniently spent the entire day testifying as to why he richly deserved to be fired.

    • Retired military


    • Scalia

      Yep, I was thinking the same thing.

  • Hank_M
  • Retired military

    I saw

    “Trump Vindicated and OPEN THREAD”
    and thought to myself “Well David Robertson must have taken the day off”

    • Scalia

      He might be depressed after Comey’s testimony.

      • jim_m

        Probably has his head in the oven.

        • Retired military

          Or else working on that “trump touches Saudi King’s balls” thread.

  • Walter_Cronanty

    Not only is this good news economically, it causes the left to gnash its teeth – First U.S. Natural Gas Shipped to Poland:

    Poland just took a symbolic step forward in wresting itself from Russia’s energy dominance.

    On Thursday, the first ever liquified natural gas shipment from the United States arrived in Poland, a landmark of sorts in Europe’s continuing drive to diversify the sources of its energy imports. The gas came from an export terminal in Louisiana that was first out of the gate to exploit the U.S. shale boom to supply the global market.

    via Ace and Instapundit.

  • Retired military

    Apparently now that the House has demanded the infamous Comey memos Comey apparantly cant find a copy to give them. LOL. You cant make this stuff up.

  • Scalia

    Feinstein: Congress should probe whether Lynch provided cover for Clinton:

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein on Sunday said Congress should look into former FBI Director James Comey’s revelation that former Attorney General Loretta Lynch asked him to downplay the nature of his investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails.

    Testifying before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday, Comey said Lynch had asked him to refer to the probe as a “matter” rather than an investigation, an exchange that he said made him feel queasy.

    Asked whether Lynch was providing cover for Clinton, Feinstein said she couldn’t answer.
    “I would have a queasy feeling too, though, to be candid with you,” she said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “I think we need to know more about that, and there’s only one way to know about it, and that’s to have the Judiciary Committee take a look at that.”

  • Scalia

    Now that they can no longer hide their bias (as if they ever really could), the press is now trying to justify their hit pieces on Trump:

    Is media coverage of Trump too negative? You’re asking the wrong question.

    The piece provides comic relief, but one of the replies to this Newspeak in the comments section is more than adequate:

    This editorial is a load of crap. The coverage of Donald Trump has been hostile, vicious, malicious, one-sided and unprincipled. Barack Obama was dealt with kid gloves and every effort was made to avoid criticism of him in order to “avoid the appearance of racism.” Trump, being a white man, has no such protection.

    Aggressive journalism is probably a good thing but not if it’s one-sided and biased as well. Use the same tactics and strategy towards all public officials. One of the reasons why Trump still holds on to the degree of popularity that he does is simply that the public is not stupid. I have had liberal democratic friends tell me that they thought Trump was not being treated fairly in the media, and he’s not.

    Don’t try to make stupid disingenuous excuses for your malevolent treatment of President Trump. Admit your hatred of him and admit that you will use every kind of deception and journalistic deceit to attack him. Just be honest about it.