Hillary Backed Russia While Bill Cashed the Check & OPEN THREAD

From FoxNews:

The Russian lawyer who landed a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during last year’s presidential campaign with the promise of dirt on Hillary Clinton had one big thing in common with the Democratic candidate: Both had opposed Russia sanctions targeting human-rights abusers.

Further, former Secretary of State Clinton’s initial opposition coincided with a $500,000 speech her husband gave in Moscow – a link her 2016 campaign fought to downplay in the press, according to WikiLeaks-released documents.

Trump White House officials now are trying to draw attention to that speech and the Clintons’ ties to Russia in a bid to counter criticism over Trump Jr.’s now-infamous meeting.

“If you want to talk about having relationships with Russia, I’d look no further than the Clintons,” Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said at a briefing last week. “Bill Clinton was paid half a million dollars to give a speech to a Russian bank, personally thanked by President Putin.”

The former president indeed had received a personal call from then-Prime Minister Vladimir Putin expressing his appreciation for the speech. According to Mrs. Clinton’s ethics disclosure form filed while she was secretary of State, Bill Clinton was paid $500,000 by the Russia-based finance company Renaissance Capital for his June 29, 2010, speech in Moscow to its employees and guests attending the company’s annual conference.

The speech is now coming back to haunt the Clintons, considering the company that cut the check was allegedly tied to the scandal that spurred the Global Magnitsky Act, a bill that imposed sanctions on Russians designated as human-rights abusers and eventually would become law in 2012.

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  • Scalia

    Megyn Kelly ratings hit new low, down to half of debut:

    Megyn Kelly’s Sunday news magazine this week registered its lowest ratings since its debut on June 4, according to Nielsen Research.

    “Sunday Night with Megyn Kelly” drew 3.1 million viewers on Sunday, or half of the 6.2 million viewers it brought in for its premiere, which featured an interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    Kelly, 46, was hired by NBC News earlier this year for a reported salary of $17 million annually.

    The former attorney-turned-cable-news-star was offered a reported $25 million to stay at Fox News, but jumped to NBC in January. Kelly finished 2016 as the second-highest rated host in cable news behind only the since-ousted Bill O’Reilly, also of Fox News.

    Kelly’s Sunday program again lost to repeats of “60 Minutes” on CBS and “America’s Funniest Home Videos” on ABC in both total viewers and the key 18-49 demographic advertisers covet most.


      How long before they buy her out?

      While some Fox News personalities have made an easy transition to other networks, I was surprised that anyone thought she had the personality for the amount of exposure they had planned for her.

      Additionally, she would probably have a difficult time returning to Fox as she burned quite a few bridges on the way out. She was already getting push back from many Fox viewers for not supporting Donald Trump.

      How long before the Shepard Smith backlash reaches the breaking point? He has called Donald Trump a liar on numerous occasions.

      I was even more surprised, however, that the MENSA group that hosts Fox and Friends even questioned Donald Junior’s story, while Krauthammer opined that ignorance is not a good excuse. What on Earth is going on here? Must be that fair and balanced thing.

      • Walter_Cronanty

        While you’re surprised by Fox and Friends’ being “fair and balanced,” I’m not surprised that the clown car that is CNN news has a commentator who refuses to acknowledge President Trump as her president.

  • Scalia

    Ellison praises Russian healthcare during Obamacare rally:

    • Walter_Cronanty

      Yes, state run “healthcare” is so much better than ours.
      My wife is a pre/post surgical nurse. Last week she cared for a patient who had a hip replacement. The patient was from Canada. According to the patient, in Canada there was a 12 to 18 month long waiting list for the surgery. The patient’s doc knew a doc here in the US and facilitated the patient coming here for the needed surgery. Luckily the patient is wealthy enough to come here for surgery.

      • jim_m

        You can get a waiver in Canada for treatment out of the country and the Canadian health system will pay for it. It takes 9 to 12 months to get such a waiver.

        • Walter_Cronanty

          I hope the treatment isn’t time sensitive.

          • jim_m

            There was a case in Ontario where a woman with a brain tumor was told she would have to wait 6+ months for an MRI to diagnose why she was having seizures, blackouts and blinding headaches. She went to Buffalo, NY to get it done within 2 weeks. Having received word that she had a brain tumor she was told it would be a further 6 months before they could schedule surgery to remove it. Her doctors told her she would be dead long before that so she went back to Buffalo to have the tumor (benign) removed.
            Afterward CHS refused to pay for the services saying that she had failed to get the waiver for either the MRI or the surgery. The waivers would have taken a minimum of 9 months each. The fact that she could not have waited for the waivers is not a factor for the government bureaucracy.
            Also, the majority of knee and hip replacement patients in Canada have to go to rehab after their surgery. Not for the orthopedic issue, for drug addiction as they are forced to wait so long they almost universally become addicted to their pain killers.

  • Scalia

    Alan Dershowitz: New York Times ignoring me because ‘I don’t have the right point of view’:

    Alan Dershowitz recently tried to publish an opinion piece in The New York Times that President Trump likely did not attempt to obstruct justice by firing former FBI Director James Comey.

    But Dershowitz told the Washington Examiner over the phone on Monday that the Times had “no response” to his submission.

    The widely known legal commentator and cable news fixture said he remains a “liberal Hillary Clinton supporter,” but said after reading an op-ed in the Times that argued Trump could be charged for criminal conduct in Comey’s firing, he reached out in June to the paper to present an opposing view.

    “I said that I thought the readers of the New York Times were entitled to hear or read the other side of the issue whether there were crimes committed,” said Dershowitz, a professor emeritus of Harvard Law School. “And I really do think The New York Times does not want its readers to hear an alternative point of view on the issue of whether or not Trump administration is committing crimes.”

    Dershowitz said he attempted to reach the opinion page editor and deputy editor without success. He said he wants to “get out in the liberal media” but that his opinion is “not the narrative they’re pushing.”

    • All the News that supports the Narrative.

      Bourgeois truths need not apply.

  • Scalia

    O.J. Simpson, up for parole, should never be set free

    O. J. Simpson, one of the most heinous and depraved killers in modern American history, is up for parole consideration.

    If the Nevada Parole Board has a conscience, it will never set him free. He is a threat to society and will always be so.

    Simpson was found guilty in 2008 of armed robbery, kidnapping and 10 other charges after he and his friends, brandishing guns, stormed into a Las Vegas hotel room to steal sports memorabilia. The former football star’s lawyers argued that their client was simply retrieving his own property. The jury didn’t buy it for one minute. He was sentenced to 33 years, but eligible for parole after nine years.

    The crimes were a consistent pattern of conduct for Simpson. When he gets angry, he resorts to violence and lawlessness. He will do it again if he is allowed to walk out of the Lovelock Correctional Center. He is a ticking time bomb. Freedom will allow the fuse to be set again.

    The problem with this piece is the author is attempting to using Simpson’s non-conviction in the double murders of Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman against him. Jarrett wants the “other information” that would lead the board to conclude that Simpson is a threat to public safety to include a civil jury decision that Simpson was “responsible” for the deaths of Brown and Goldman. That shouldn’t fly in a criminal proceeding.


      I agree, you don’t get a second bite at the apple. Now, I have attained all of my legal expertise from watching Law and Order reruns, but I don’t think you can introduce information from his murder trial in an attempt to keep him in prison for his overzealous recovery of stolen memorabilia. Let’s face it, anyone else would not have faced the same fate for the crime for which he is currently serving time.

      Do I wish they could keep him in prison? Well, sure, but that is not how any of this works.

    • Brian Brandt

      I think the ‘other information’ relates to eight incidents of domestic violence for which the police were called to O.J.’s home. These were all before the murder. In the last, he was arrested and plead no contest for spousal abuse for which the prosecutor recommended that he do 30 days jail time and enter a program for abusers – neither of which happened.

    • Indeed.

    • Par4Course

      OJ may sink his chances if he tells the Parole Board that he wants to get out of prison to continue his search for the “real killers.” The response, of course, is that he already has a mirror in his cell.

      • Scalia

        Board Grants Parole to OJ Simpson Following Hearing:

        Less than an hour after wrapping up a long-awaited hearing, the Nevada Parole Board made their decision, granting parole to O.J. Simpson, allowing the former football star to go free later this year. Most people expected the board to reach this decision, as they had already granted Simpson parole on some of the charges after a hearing in 2013. Because “The Juice” hasn’t had any problems while at Nevada’s Lovelock Correctional Facility since then, it’s not surprising that he will be released.

        By the time he gets out, he will have served nine out of a possible 33 years for an armed robbery in 2007, for which he was convicted in 2008.

    • And he’s out.

      He and Ayeres now have that much more in common.

  • Scalia

    NRA Goes After Wash. Post: Your Slogan Should Be ‘Journalism Dies’ Here

    The National Rifle Association lashed out at the Washington Post in an online video accusing the paper of championing the effort to take guns away from law-abiding Americans.

    In the video message, Grant Stinchfield accused the paper of promoting a “radical agenda” and spreading lies about those who disagree.

    He said the Post refuses to cover the “extremist beliefs of Carmen Perez [and] DeRay Mckesson” and the Democrats who refuse to condemn them.

    “You people do more to damage our country with a keyboard than every NRA member combined has ever done with a firearm,” Stinchfield declared. “Your paper’s new slogan may read ‘Democracy Dies in Darkness.’ It should say ‘Journalism Dies at The Washington Post.'”

    The video came in response to a Post article which called out a previous NRA video message as being “dark.” That video from former Navy SEAL Dom Raso was criticized for being politically-charged and barely mentioning firearms.

    Last week, NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch spoke out to Tucker Carlson on the backlash she received for her own video calling out violent left-wing activists.



    I don’t know that deflecting to the Clintons will be an effective defense for one simple reason; Trump happens to be President.

    I realize that Tucker Carlson (someone will have to explain his appeal to me someday; O’Reilly I got, but he is simply unlikable) and Hannity, and to a lesser extent, the Five, have built their shows around the various misdeeds of the Clintons, but again, as so many like to state on Wizbang, she is not living in the White House at this time. It may get ratings on Fox for a while, but will get little coverage on other networks as they view the Clintons as “old news.” In other words, people will change the channel. Plus, Trump gives them new material each and every day. He has been the best thing that ever happened to cable news and print media, despite his claims they are all dying.

    Trump has to be (or should be) worried as he has managed to anger all of the intelligence agencies, and they have a tendency to get even. They will probably go back and examine all of his financial dealings and if you have been in business as long as him it won’t be hard to find something that is considered to be out of bounds. Anyone that has dealt with the Feds knows that right and wrong are not as important as them simply making and winning a case.

    I do wonder why the Trumps seem to view the whole truth as something to be avoided. Donald Jr. knew that the press had the story, yet he continued to go with every version but the truth about the subject matter and the number of people in the room, which I think reached 8 as of today. I don’t believe he was trying to skirt the law, he was simply anxious to get this information and show it to his Dad. He had business dealings with Russians for years and probably never imagined that this was out of bounds. Of course his Father claimed yesterday that he has passed more legislation than any other President, which is not close to being true, even when you count the many ceremonial laws. Why does he not realize that these things can be checked in two minutes?

    Are you all still thrilled with his performance?

    • Scalia

      I don’t know that deflecting to the Clintons will be an effective defense for one simple reason; Trump happens to be President.

      It’s not deflecting so much as it is a statement of the obvious that the MSM doesn’t really care about Russian involvement. They only care that their candidate lost. It only matters if a conservative is involved.

      • The LSM chose the form of their destructor.

      • And how they can make things right by hounding Trump out of office and getting Queen Hillary onto her rightful throne.

        Never mind that fragile antique ain’t ever gonna occupy the Oval Office and they’d have President Pence – reality and them simply aren’t on speaking terms.

  • Paul Hooson

    On a TV interview on Stephen Colbert, Al Gore had an interesting story of how someone in George Bush’s 2000 election committee had turned against the candidate and mailed a file of stolen secrets to the Gore committee. Al Gore and his campaign officials were disgusted by what they saw as unsportsmanlike and probably illegal and immediately turned this file over to the FBI for investigation. – Where was this same sense of sportsmanship and an honest campaign among some in the Trump campaign?

    Some religious persons say that the reasoning of the Devil is best summed up by. “The End Justifies The Means”. – Satisfaction in a job well done is in a job done honestly. Winning by cheating or fraud is indeed a shallow victory in the heart.

    • News Flash: The vast red middle of the nation, that basket of deplorables, don’t give a shit about Stephen Colbert or algore. Their support for Trump has been un-moved by the salacious reporting of the LSM.

      The Democrats re-wrote the rule book, and we are now using those rules against them.

      • Walter_Cronanty

        Ah, yep:

        Repeated appeals to reason, principle, and human decency have all been made. All have been in vain. The people who work in the media do not use the power that they wield–a power so great that it can drive every day citizens to suicide–with the care and thoughtfulness of adults.

        They are ill-parented toddlers–self absorbed, thoughtless, careless, and happy to break anything that doesn’t suit their immediate purpose. These toddlers have found a box of kitchen matches and are busy lighting their sibling’s toys on fire out of spite, oblivious to the danger they’ve created for themselves.


        This is only the beginning of an ever-growing pushback, one that’s only going to get nastier and more ugly. And everything that happens is on them. This is the rotten, worm infested harvest they have sown and they’re going to be choking on it for some time to come.

        • Paul Hooson

          News is a commodity, and the house that didn’t burn down is never a news story compared to one that did. On the other hand, this president that Tweets that women are “bleeding from their facelift” at 3am in morning and other wacky behavior, only invites the media to act like the parent in the room and call this guy for outrageous public conduct like this. Some at CNN such as Jake Tapper are registered Republicans, and if Mr. Trump would conduct himself more properly, I’m sure Jake Tapper would likewise be less critical. Jake Tapper comes from a Jewish religious family where his brother is Rabbi. “Keeping Them Honest” is the golden rule of Mr. Tapper, and regardless of political party, Jake Tapper is independent in his news focus.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            “…[I]nvites the media to act like the parent in the room.” Really? Then why don’t they act like an adult?

            “Jake Tapper comes from a Jewish religious family…” And James D Kennedy was a born again Christian and supported Israel. So what?

          • The needle is not moving. Cry us a river.

          • Brett Buck

            Some at CNN such as Jake Tapper are registered Republicans, and if Mr. Trump would conduct himself more properly, I’m sure Jake Tapper would likewise be less critical.

            I presume that by “conduct himself more properly”, you mean “stand by meekly while political hacks who have accomplished exactly nothing in their lives unfairly try to destroy his presidency because they are having a hissy fit over losing an election”?

            Jake Tapper comes from a Jewish religious family where his brother is Rabbi.

            That’s highly relevant! Maybe Jake’s rabbi brother can pop him in the mouth and tell him to stop being such a putz.

            The Jewish culture generally values intelligence and education. But after seeing your many posts here and now Jake Tapper in action, there are clearly some outliers to that characteristic. Since you and Jake are still apparently members of the Jewish religion in good standing, I guess there is no equivalent of “excommunication”?

            Do you feel it necessary to mention you are Jewish in *every single post* so when you say something ridiculous (as above), people are afraid to call you on it for fear of being accused of being an anti-Semite? Or, does it let *you* dismiss any criticism because you can chalk it up to anti-Semitism in your mind?

      • Paul Hooson

        Sadly, it certainly appeared that both Hillary and the Democratic Party leaders attempted to undercut Bernie Sanders, not viewing him as a loyal Democrat to award the nomination.

        Related to your views. Mr. Trump seems to have a solid core of around 36% of the voters that do appear unshaken by his crazy 3am Tweets, scandals, and the inability to “close the deal” on legislation, despite a Republican majority in Congress. My best guess is that if the Republicans lose control of Congress in 2018, then Trump will be pushed out, otherwise his administration just limps along until 2020 and loses that election where voters reject him as an experiment in government change that failed.

        • Walter_Cronanty

          Under our Constitution, how is Trump going to be “pushed out” in 2018?

          • Paul Hooson

            If conditions exist for an impeachment, especially if Democrats take control of Congress, Republicans might see Trump as a big liability, while the Democrats will look for their own grounds. On the other hand, some Democrats may resist impeachment, if Trump proves himself so damaging to the Republican brand.

            Look at how damaging Richard Nixon was to the Republican brand, but the far more ethical and less controversial Gerald Ford nearly won the 1976 election by comparison.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Good luck on the impeachment theory. Exactly what high crime or misdemeamor has Trump committed? I know it doesn’t matter to you or other Ds, but it might to some Rs.

          • WHO’S THE BUSTER

            I would prefer Trump stays around as very little will happen. If Pence assumes the Presidency it will be different as he is more of a political animal.

            The continued ineptitude of Trump OK with me.

          • WHO’S THE BUSTER

            I would prefer Trump stays around as very little will happen. If Pence assumes the Presidency it will be different as he is more of a political animal.

            The continued ineptitude of Trump OK with me.

          • Impeachment is a dead letter after billy joe jim bob.

        • WHO’S THE BUSTER

          23 Democrats up for election along with 2 independents that caucus with them as opposed to 8 Republicans. The Democrats will be lucky to maintain their current numbers.

          The House? Permanently gerrymandered to death for Democrats.

  • TheyTukRJobz

    I guess the Chinese bagmen stopped showing up at their door, so the Clintons found a new source for filthy lucre.

    • Paul Hooson

      The Clintons are not ethical or honest. On the other hand. Mr. Trump is troublesome in so many ways as well, and certainly not some “fresh air” guy.

      • Rdm42

        The most disanswer turning at least to you is a refusal to just lie back and take the dishonest attacks liberals use on anyone opposing them. That must really disturb you.

  • Par4Course

    What’s the big deal? The Clintons are Democrats. Everyone in media knows the only story worth pursuing is the Trump-Russia election collusion story, thin as it may be.

  • Walter_Cronanty

    Five questions which I haven’t seen discussed at length during our long foray into the unscientific method concerning CAGW:
    1. What is/was the optimal temperature for the earth?
    2. Why is/was it optimal [optimal for plant growth? optimal for human growth? optimal for non-human animal growth? maybe an ice-age to harm/eliminate human/animal/plant growth and keep earth an ice-ball? any other reason]?
    3. When was this temperature attained on earth?
    4. When did this temperature change?
    5. Why did the temperature change?

    • And the answers are:

      1. Not where it’s at now, so there!
      2. You can’t determine that! There is NO evidence that animals will go where they like the temperature!
      3. DENIER!
      4. You can’t understand it unless you’re a CLIMATE SCIENTIST™! With the secret decoder ring, a certificate signed by AlGore and James Hansen, and taught the secret handshake.
      5. HUMANZ IS EVILL!!!

      I think that covers it well enough…

      • Walter_Cronanty

        Excellent answers. You win the James E. Hansen “Because – Shut Up!” award.
        Umm, uhh, do check back later, though, as previously winning scores may be “adjusted.”

        • Well snarked.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Just so I’m clear, I know JLawson was being facetious/sarcastic, and I responded in kind. I meant no disrespect to JLawson.

          • Just so, and no offense taken. 😉

            Unfortunately, I couldn’t use my favorite piece of idiocy to date:

            “There’s no feedback systems in nature!”

            (Facepalm) I mean, after that – what can you possibly say that’d change their minds?

        • Ah, but adjusted UP, or DOWN? Am I being graded on a curve? Because if there’s a curve I want Michael Mann to whack it with a hockey stick until I pass…


          • Walter_Cronanty

            Tell me how much of a government grant you can get me and I’ll tell you which way your answers will be adjusted.

          • Lol!

  • I commend to all y’all:

    He Fights
    By Evan Sayet, TownHall

    This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.

    I don’t find anything “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper” about Barack Obama’s lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party. I don’t see anything “dignified” in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks. I don’t see anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent. Yes, Obama was “articulate” and “polished” but in no way was he in the least bit “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper.”

    With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America’s first wartime president in the Culture War.

    As they have sown, so now do they reap. That they are not liking it is sweet chewy schadenfreude.

    • Hank_M

      Yes, this is an excellent article by Sayet and it explains why a lot of us support Trump.
      As Sayet states:

      “We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency. We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain? We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney? And the results were always the same.”

    • Scalia

      I don’t see anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent.

      Yeah, perhaps to act presidential, Trump should get himself “serviced” by an intern in the Oval Office and then lie about it under oath.

  • Scalia

    Baptist sends church robber across the Great Divide:

    The suspect of a church burglary is now dead he was killed while he was in progress of robbing staff members.

    The suspect 26-year-old Steffon Tolver is no stranger to the court system.

    In 2011 he pleaded guilty to first- degree robbery and was sentence to 15 years in prison, now this strike was his last.

    Crossroads Baptist, a church with a heart, is now dealing with heartache.

    After two church employees were robbed on church grounds resulting in the death of the burglar.

    “He completed one robbery in which he received roughly $50 dollars and proceeded to try to rob someone else and the second person had a handgun and shot the suspect while he was in his office,” said LT. Brian Smith.

    It happened around 10:30 Sunday night.

    Although the church doors were open that morning, there were still worker there preparing for the upcoming week late into the night.

    “They were getting ready to go on a youth trip and they were working late to get ready for the trip in the morning,” said LT. Brian Smith.

    Many may be wondering why this worker had a handgun on church grounds.

    “In a church or not wherever you are you have the chance to defend yourself in your home you have certain additional rights,” said LT. Brian Smith.

    The second victim of the robbery fired a single shot into the upper torso of the suspect, who was 26-year-old Steffon Tolver.

    “He was obviously shook up by the events which he had no choice in it occurring and him defending himself,” said LT. Brian Smith. “But he was put in a position where he didn’t have a choice.”

    As far as the police department is concerned there will be no charges brought against the victim the case will be presented to the grand jury

    There’s no law saying you can’t carry a firearm into a church; however, the church has the right to say nobody can bring a firearm in their facility.

    • Walter_Cronanty


    • That’s one way to get (quickly and briefly) closer to God. I can’t say I recommend it.

    • Hank_M

      He got a 15 year prison sentence in 2011 for first degree robbery and was already out?

    • Scalia

      I might add that the citation is a cut-and-paste from the news website. The grammar and punctuation is just awful.

      • are…

        • Scalia

          Yes. While looking at the post edits page, I was aghast that slipped by. Of course, I immediately corrected it and then saw your correction. Thanks.

  • [Breaking] Sen. John McCain Has Brain Cancer
    Amber Athey, the DailyCaller

    Republican Arizona Sen. John McCain has been diagnosed with brain cancer, according to a statement released by his office and the Mayo Clinic.

    • Scalia

      Although he is definitely not my favorite senator, by far, I am very saddened by this.


        Here is a video of a friend of mine that was a POW along with John McCain. Get a few beers in him and he will tell some incredible stories from that time.

        This is recorded at Selfridge Air Force Base in Michigan, which is down the street from my home. Luckily, I am able to golf there on a regular basis. It has always been a beautiful golf course and had a $5 million renovation a few years ago.

        Of note is the fact that when you drive in they have rent-a-cops checking your Defense Department issued I.D., which I always found strange. What was even more surprising is the lax security that existed for many years. While it is no longer true, one person with a window sticker would be waved in with any number of guests in the car. I attended a golf outing with some scruffy looking friends and was surprised how easy it was to enter. This is right after 911 and while you could not get on an airline flight without scrutiny we were soon golfing within 100 yards of a stealth bomber with nothing but a chain link fence separating us from the aircraft.

        I suppose I am still surprised that the course is open to the general public as long as you give them $10 a year and allow them to fingerprint you when issuing your I.D. While most of the people are ex-military or local guys around my age (early 60s), it still seems odd that you are driving very close to aircraft, bomb pens and any number of areas that could be deemed dangerous in the wrong hands.

        Oh well, I use the driving range on a regular basis, buy cheap beer at the PX and play league golf there on Tuesdays; so to all you taxpayers, thanks.

        • Scalia

          Who’s the guy in the shorts?


    Did anyone read or hear the stream of consciousness interview with Trump that took place yesterday? Yikes!

    He was all over the place and apparently slept during history class. He has squandered anything resembling political capital.

    • He never had any in your books. We can always turn to the LSM for fake news, no need for your to bring any to us here.


        What is so often labeled as fake news are merely transcripts or recordings of Trump himself.

        No one can read or hear his New York Times interview and be impressed.

    • Hank_M

      I’ll give him credit for talking to the NY Times although why he does it is beyond me.

      Perhaps you’d be happier if he gave an interview to Glozell, as Obama did. Remember her? The “lady” who eats fruit loops from a tub full of milk.


        I think he simply wanted to do a little venting. After all, he does not have press conferences, the daily briefings are now held off-camera and don’t really supply much beyond, “I will get back to you on that” and he has one way communication via Twitter.

        Have you read the transcript? If not, I can sum it up in a few words. Everything is someone else’s fault.

        Oh, and Mueller better not look into his finances. Of course, as of today, Mueller is looking at Trump’s financial dealings over a number of years.

        Belittling and making enemies with everyone if not a good idea. Someone said it on one of the cable news shows last night that Trump is of the opinion that he is President and everyone else is “staff.”

  • Speaking of Fake News, Glenn Instapundit Reynolds makes a great catch:

    SO THIS REUTERS HEADLINE LOOKS BAD FOR TRUMP, BUT IF YOU READ PAST THE HEADLINE HIS BASE IS ACTUALLY MORE SUPPORTIVE THAN IN MAY: One in eight people who voted for Trump having second thoughts. In May, 82% of Trump voters said they’d vote for him again. In July, it’s 88%. His support has actually increased by 6%. A more accurate headline would be something like Trump’s Base Happier Than In May: Support Rises 6%. But, you know, narrative.

    The needle ain’t moving Busted.


      The same people who believe it when he says he has had more legislation passed than any other president at this point in his tenure. Is it true? Of course not, but they don’t care. I can only assume they are all billionaires who are awaiting their upcoming tax cuts.

      • The needle hain’t moved, busted.

      • Hank_M

        Feel free to discount the Washington Times as a source but they did report on June 10th that according to a report by Paul Ryan and Kevin McCarthy,

        “To date, President Trump has signed 37 bills into law, placing him ahead of the last four administrations….At this point in his presidency, President Obama had signed off on 24 bills. President George W. Bush signed 15, President Clinton 33 bills and President George H.W. Bush 35.”


        • Scalia

          Their habit of swallowing everything the MSM tells them is hard to break.

        • WHO’S THE BUSTER

          Trump has signed 42 bills so far. By this point in their respective
          terms, President Jimmy Carter had signed 70 bills and Bill Clinton had
          signed 50 bills. In the first 100 days of their terms, Harry S. Truman
          signed 55 bills and Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed 76.

          Now if he had put it in the context of the last four administrations he would be telling the truth, alas, he did not.

  • Walter_Cronanty

    Who’da thunk it? Solar Companies Using ‘2008 Sub-Prime Lender’ Tactics To Sell Panels

    CFA reviewed more than 1,200 complaints to the FTC that showed a widespread pattern of apparent fraud and abuse by solar companies.

    The complaints state that solar companies deceived consumers about the true costs of installing solar panels by luring them in with low price quotes that later proved to be false, required them to sign confusing contracts, and promising energy savings that never materialized. This often led to consumers being forced to pay the companies large amounts of money.

    “When they sign a 20-year contract, the financial situation doesn’t work out,” Stevens said. “They end up paying more for energy than they paid for the solar panels. The consumers are being hurt.”

    Seniors and the poor are more vulnerable to issues like this because they tend to spend a higher proportion of their incomes on basic needs like energy while living on fixed incomes. Elderly individuals and the poor are much more likely to sign a complex contract without understanding that it may require them to pay a large amount of money.

    “In one situation we saw, the person who purchased the solar panels died,” Stevens said. “Somebody who’s father had passed away was trying to pay off the remaining contract. The company wanted $25,000 to cover the costs of the panels.”

    “These contracts are structured in a way so the consumer doesn’t know if it will be in their financial interests to sign up,” Stevens said. “They can’t tell what they’re signing up for in some cases. A lot of this is variable. They don’t know how much sun will hit their roof during most periods.”

    Solar subsidies end up hurting the poor 1.4 to four times more than the rich, according to a study by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

  • Scalia

    Albuquerque Tea Party granted tax-exempt status after 8 years:

    It’s taken nearly eight years, but the Internal Revenue Service finally granted tax-exempt status to a Tea Party group in what lawyers representing the group on Wednesday called a “major victory for free speech.”

    Graham Bartlett, president of the local Tea Party, said he was informed about a month ago that the group’s request was going through, The Albuquerque Journal reported.

    After six long years and endless appeals, the IRS has finally granted the Albuquerque Tea Party (ATP) its… https://t.co/InuBKf3k9q

    — ABQ Tea Party (@ABQTeaParty) July 14, 2017
    The group filed its request in December 2009. Several months later, the IRS demanded more documentation concerning the organization’s activities. The group complied, but then the IRS requested even more documentation. The Tea Party provided more than 1,000 pages of documentation about the group’s activities. Eventually, it filed a lawsuit against the IRS.

    “What I understand is the IRS was targeting any organization that had the name ‘Tea Party’ in it or the word ‘conservative,'” Bartlett said. “We weren’t the only ones.”

    In 2012, the American Center for Law and Justice, or ACLJ, filed a lawsuit against the IRS on behalf of the Albuquerque Tea Party as well as other conservative groups whose requests for tax-exempt status seemed to be put on hold during the Obama administration.

    “The ACLJ is pleased to announce that after a long, arduous legal battle, our client, the Albuquerque Tea Party, has finally received their tax-exempt status – nearly eight years after originally filing their 501(c)(4) application,” the organization said in a statement on its website Wednesday. “This is a major victory for free speech.”

    “The widespread and coordinated attacks against conservative groups like the Albuquerque Tea Party began in early 2010,” the ACLJ said. “The IRS literally took their money and then ignored their application requesting tax-exempt status for eight long years.

    “This is outrageous,” the group said. “No organization should ever be forced to wait that long for a determination.”

    • Walter_Cronanty

      I can see the new motto for Canadian Health Care: “We’re 8 times faster than the IRS.”

      • Scalia

        One can only imaging the reaction from the MSM if the IRS were targeting liberal groups in the same manner.

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